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Re: Changing speech rate not working

Tyler Spivey
 

If you're using the laptop layout, try ctrl+insert+shift+up.

On 3/1/2020 6:21 PM, Anna Givens wrote:
I am doing Control + insert + up arrow to increase speech but it is not changing the speech rate.


Anna


Changing speech rate not working

Anna Givens
 

I am doing Control + insert + up arrow to increase speech but it is not changing the speech rate.


Anna


Re: NVEA settings not opening

Anna Givens
 

I did NVDA key + N and it opened the menu.

On Mar 1, 2020, at 9:26 AM, brice Mijares <bmijares33@...> wrote:

I too have been havingthis problem. yes, I'tried uninstalling NVDA and reinstalling. I've turned off one ad on at a time and nothinng helps.

On 2/29/2020 1:38 PM, Janet Brandly wrote:

Hello all,

I hd this problem just now. I had to shut down NVDA from the task bar and restart it using control+alt+N. Hope that helps.

Janet


Re: Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Gene
 

I can't tell what you are describing.  You can use either insert, the numpad insert or the other insert but you must use the keys on the numpad for hearing what we are discussing.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2020 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Hi Gene,

I am using a desktop PC.  I pressed the insert key and then keyboard
(not numpad) numbers on the top line of the keyboard numbers 2 through 8.


On 3/1/2020 7:49 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
> Hi
>
>
> Where abouts were those settings were they in a add on? or did you do
> it some where else?
>
>
> Gene nz
>
>
> On 2/03/2020 1:30 pm, Ron Canazzi wrote:
>> Hi Gene,
>>
>> I played around with some of the settings.  I am not quite sure what
>> I did.  Using insert + keyboard 2 through 8, I saw that some of these
>> items were turned off.  I turned the ones that were off back on and
>> now I get the proper feedback from NVDA.  I tried turning them off
>> one by one to see which of the settings was key and I couldn't
>> determine which ones; maybe all of them?
>>
>> Now when I press insert + numpad 1 and 7, when in an edit field, I
>> hear the third choice I spoke of--namely document review. This mode
>> allows me to see the words and characters with normal numpad key
>> functions.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/1/2020 5:52 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
>>> Hi Ron
>>>
>>>
>>> Try the following.
>>>
>>>
>>> On the numeric key pad press the nvda key +num pad 1 so you go to
>>> object navigation.
>>>
>>>
>>> Then go back to the subject line then use the review cursor now it
>>> reads. If left in the other mode nvda key + 7 it will not read the
>>> subject in the header etc if you get what I mean.
>>>
>>>
>>> If you also say locate a word with the review cursor in your email
>>> then press the num pad 5 key 2 times it will spell it letter by letter.
>>>
>>>
>>> I am guessing this is what has happened.
>>>
>>>
>>> Gene nz
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/03/2020 10:51 am, Ron Canazzi wrote:
>>>> Hi Group,
>>>>
>>>> I am not quite sure when this started--probably with the 2019.3
>>>> update, but now when I am in a Thunderbird message and I want to
>>>> try to highlight a word in an open message and check the spelling,
>>>> when I press insert + numpad 5, NVDA says: 'blank.' This also
>>>> occurs in the subject field and the other header fields.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone else noticed this and is there a work around?
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>

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Re: Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Gene
 

If you don't get the correct text read in object review and you did in earlier versions of NVDA with Thunderbird, then there is a problem with how NVDA is working with the program.  I should say that there is a problem if Thunderbird hasn't been upgraded so you are working with a version you know worked properly.  Have you tried a portable NVDA of the previous stable version with whatever version of Thunderbirde you are currently using to make sure the problem is only an NVDA problem? 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2020 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Hi Gene,

I used to be in object review and I could read the word and spell the
word with a press and two presses of the numpad 5 key.  Now all I get is
blank.  I also tried with screen review.  I routed the mouse to the word
with numpad slash and then pressed the 5 while in screen review and
still got the rendering of blank when pressing the numpad 5 key.

As I recall, when in an edit field when I press insert + numpad 1 or 7,
a third option was document review.  Now in Thunderbird, I don't get
this third choice.

On 3/1/2020 5:45 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
> Hi
>
>
> In which mode are you in?
>
>
> Pressing the insert key + 5 on the numeric key pad does nothing.
>
>
> But if you use the number 5 on the numeric keypad by its self on a
> word it if pressed 2 times will spell out that word.
>
>
> If you use the insert key + 5 on the main key board it will turn on
> and off report dynamic changes on and off.
>
>
> Are you editing a document or reading it with the review cursor?
>
>
> Gene nz
>
>
> On 2/03/2020 10:51 am, Ron Canazzi wrote:
>> Hi Group,
>>
>> I am not quite sure when this started--probably with the 2019.3
>> update, but now when I am in a Thunderbird message and I want to try
>> to highlight a word in an open message and check the spelling, when I
>> press insert + numpad 5, NVDA says: 'blank.' This also occurs in the
>> subject field and the other header fields.
>>
>> Has anyone else noticed this and is there a work around?
>>
>
>
>
>

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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"




Re: Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Gene,

I am using a desktop PC.  I pressed the insert key and then keyboard (not numpad) numbers on the top line of the keyboard numbers 2 through 8.

On 3/1/2020 7:49 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi


Where abouts were those settings were they in a add on? or did you do it some where else?


Gene nz


On 2/03/2020 1:30 pm, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Gene,

I played around with some of the settings.  I am not quite sure what I did.  Using insert + keyboard 2 through 8, I saw that some of these items were turned off.  I turned the ones that were off back on and now I get the proper feedback from NVDA.  I tried turning them off one by one to see which of the settings was key and I couldn't determine which ones; maybe all of them?

Now when I press insert + numpad 1 and 7, when in an edit field, I hear the third choice I spoke of--namely document review. This mode allows me to see the words and characters with normal numpad key functions.



On 3/1/2020 5:52 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi Ron


Try the following.


On the numeric key pad press the nvda key +num pad 1 so you go to object navigation.


Then go back to the subject line then use the review cursor now it reads. If left in the other mode nvda key + 7 it will not read the subject in the header etc if you get what I mean.


If you also say locate a word with the review cursor in your email then press the num pad 5 key 2 times it will spell it letter by letter.


I am guessing this is what has happened.


Gene nz


On 2/03/2020 10:51 am, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I am not quite sure when this started--probably with the 2019.3 update, but now when I am in a Thunderbird message and I want to try to highlight a word in an open message and check the spelling, when I press insert + numpad 5, NVDA says: 'blank.' This also occurs in the subject field and the other header fields.

Has anyone else noticed this and is there a work around?



--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Gene
 

That's a different command.  Numpad 8, just numpad 8 announces the current line of the current object.  If your application cursor is on the line of the subject line, numpad 8 will speak it.  Numpad 8 twice will spell it.  the original message discussed wanting to hear a word to check its spelling.  For that, you would use numpad 5 if the application cursor is on the word you want.  . 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2020 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Hi Gene


I guess if i wanted to read the subject line i would hit the number 8 2 times to have it spelled out or just the once to hear it.


Not the nvda key + 5 but it seems to do it similar.



I guess I could do like a trouble shooting in nvda and give a demo of what to do so they can hear the difference on the website.


Gene nz


On 2/03/2020 12:11 pm, Gene wrote:
Using insert numpad 5 does indeed report and spell the current navigator object.  Compare the description of that command with input help on with just numpad 5 with input help on, where the action is different but should do what Ron wants. Insert numpad 5 reports the current navigator object.  Issued twice, the command spells the current navigator object.  That means that far more than one word may be spelled.  Numpad 5 reports the current word of the navigator object.  it is roughly equivalent to say currewnt word.  Issued twice, it is roughly equivalent to spell current word.  for Ron's purposes, just numpad 5 should be used,  As I said, insert numpad 5 may announce far more than the current word and insert numpad 5 twice may spell far more than the current word.  I just trieed insert numpad 5 in a Notepad document and an entire line was read.  Insert numpad 5 read just the current word.  Either insert may be used..
 
I should add that if the newest stable version of NVDA doesn't track the application cursor in Thunderbird, neither command will work as expected.  But there is a reasonable chance that numpad 5 pressed twice will do what is wanted.  We'll see.
 
Also, you should be in object navigation mode when you use either of these commands when you want to work with where the application cursor is.  If you are not in object review, you may have text read that doesn't reflect where you are.  I've said before that you should automatically be placed in object review no matter what mode you are currently in when you move to a new window.  This is one more instance why. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2020 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Hi


In which mode are you in?


Pressing the insert key + 5 on the numeric key pad does nothing.


But if you use the number 5 on the numeric keypad by its self on a word
it if pressed 2 times will spell out that word.


If you use the insert key + 5 on the main key board it will turn on and
off report dynamic changes on and off.


Are you editing a document or reading it with the review cursor?


Gene nz


On 2/03/2020 10:51 am, Ron Canazzi wrote:
> Hi Group,
>
> I am not quite sure when this started--probably with the 2019.3
> update, but now when I am in a Thunderbird message and I want to try
> to highlight a word in an open message and check the spelling, when I
> press insert + numpad 5, NVDA says: 'blank.'  This also occurs in the
> subject field and the other header fields.
>
> Has anyone else noticed this and is there a work around?
>



Re: Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Where abouts were those settings were they in a add on? or did you do it some where else?


Gene nz

On 2/03/2020 1:30 pm, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Gene,

I played around with some of the settings.  I am not quite sure what I did.  Using insert + keyboard 2 through 8, I saw that some of these items were turned off.  I turned the ones that were off back on and now I get the proper feedback from NVDA.  I tried turning them off one by one to see which of the settings was key and I couldn't determine which ones; maybe all of them?

Now when I press insert + numpad 1 and 7, when in an edit field, I hear the third choice I spoke of--namely document review.  This mode allows me to see the words and characters with normal numpad key functions.



On 3/1/2020 5:52 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi Ron


Try the following.


On the numeric key pad press the nvda key +num pad 1 so you go to object navigation.


Then go back to the subject line then use the review cursor now it reads. If left in the other mode nvda key + 7 it will not read the subject in the header etc if you get what I mean.


If you also say locate a word with the review cursor in your email then press the num pad 5 key 2 times it will spell it letter by letter.


I am guessing this is what has happened.


Gene nz


On 2/03/2020 10:51 am, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I am not quite sure when this started--probably with the 2019.3 update, but now when I am in a Thunderbird message and I want to try to highlight a word in an open message and check the spelling, when I press insert + numpad 5, NVDA says: 'blank.' This also occurs in the subject field and the other header fields.

Has anyone else noticed this and is there a work around?



Re: Keystroke for Main Landmark

Sascha Cowley
 

Not exactly. OP asked for "a keystroke for quickly getting to a main landmark". This will go through *all* landmarks, whereas I think the query was for one that jumps directly, and exclusively, to the main landmark.

On 2/03/2020 11:22, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi the letter D will do that and each time pressed will take you to the next one and adding shift and D will do it in reverse.


Gene nz


On 2/03/2020 1:19 pm, David Kingsbury wrote:

Hi all,

�

Does NVDA have a keystroke for quickly getting to a main landmark? If there is one, I can�t find it in the quick reference guide.

�

Thanks,

David


Re: Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Gene,

I played around with some of the settings.  I am not quite sure what I did.  Using insert + keyboard 2 through 8, I saw that some of these items were turned off.  I turned the ones that were off back on and now I get the proper feedback from NVDA.  I tried turning them off one by one to see which of the settings was key and I couldn't determine which ones; maybe all of them?

Now when I press insert + numpad 1 and 7, when in an edit field, I hear the third choice I spoke of--namely document review.  This mode allows me to see the words and characters with normal numpad key functions.

On 3/1/2020 5:52 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi Ron


Try the following.


On the numeric key pad press the nvda key +num pad 1 so you go to object navigation.


Then go back to the subject line then use the review cursor now it reads. If left in the other mode nvda key + 7 it will not read the subject in the header etc if you get what I mean.


If you also say locate a word with the review cursor in your email then press the num pad 5 key 2 times it will spell it letter by letter.


I am guessing this is what has happened.


Gene nz


On 2/03/2020 10:51 am, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I am not quite sure when this started--probably with the 2019.3 update, but now when I am in a Thunderbird message and I want to try to highlight a word in an open message and check the spelling, when I press insert + numpad 5, NVDA says: 'blank.' This also occurs in the subject field and the other header fields.

Has anyone else noticed this and is there a work around?

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Gene,

I have tried all of these options and I still get blank. Furthermore, when I switch to the screen review and try navigating with the 7, 9, 1 and 3 numpad keys, all I her is blank.  Could something be turned off in settings within NVDA?

On 3/1/2020 5:52 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi Ron


Try the following.


On the numeric key pad press the nvda key +num pad 1 so you go to object navigation.


Then go back to the subject line then use the review cursor now it reads. If left in the other mode nvda key + 7 it will not read the subject in the header etc if you get what I mean.


If you also say locate a word with the review cursor in your email then press the num pad 5 key 2 times it will spell it letter by letter.


I am guessing this is what has happened.


Gene nz


On 2/03/2020 10:51 am, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I am not quite sure when this started--probably with the 2019.3 update, but now when I am in a Thunderbird message and I want to try to highlight a word in an open message and check the spelling, when I press insert + numpad 5, NVDA says: 'blank.' This also occurs in the subject field and the other header fields.

Has anyone else noticed this and is there a work around?

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Keystroke for Main Landmark

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi the letter D will do that and each time pressed will take you to the next one and adding shift and D will do it in reverse.


Gene nz


On 2/03/2020 1:19 pm, David Kingsbury wrote:

Hi all,

 

Does NVDA have a keystroke for quickly getting to a main landmark? If there is one, I can’t find it in the quick reference guide.

 

Thanks,

David


Re: Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Ron


Is nvda in object navigation mode? Use the nvda key + 1 to do this otherwise you might get some strange affects like you mentioned in a earlier email.


Gene nz


On 2/03/2020 1:14 pm, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Gene,

This isn't my day for giving examples.  On another list, I gave an incorrect command.  I know the keystroke for spelling a word in numpad 5.  In any case, on my system, NVDA says: 'blank.'


On 3/1/2020 5:05 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know what is causing the problem.  But using a different command should solve it.  You should be able to have the word you are on in the document spelled by just pressing numpad 5 by itself.  That Is the equivalent of spell current word even though it is defined as spelling the current navigator object.  One press will say the current word.  Two will spell it.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2020 3:51 PM
Subject: [nvda] Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Hi Group,

I am not quite sure when this started--probably with the 2019.3 update,
but now when I am in a Thunderbird message and I want to try to
highlight a word in an open message and check the spelling, when I press
insert + numpad 5, NVDA says: 'blank.'  This also occurs in the subject
field and the other header fields.

Has anyone else noticed this and is there a work around?

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"




-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Keystroke for Main Landmark

David Kingsbury
 

Hi all,

 

Does NVDA have a keystroke for quickly getting to a main landmark? If there is one, I can’t find it in the quick reference guide.

 

Thanks,

David


Re: Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Gene,

I used to be in object review and I could read the word and spell the word with a press and two presses of the numpad 5 key.  Now all I get is blank.  I also tried with screen review.  I routed the mouse to the word with numpad slash and then pressed the 5 while in screen review and still got the rendering of blank when pressing the numpad 5 key.

As I recall, when in an edit field when I press insert + numpad 1 or 7, a third option was document review.  Now in Thunderbird, I don't get this third choice.

On 3/1/2020 5:45 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi


In which mode are you in?


Pressing the insert key + 5 on the numeric key pad does nothing.


But if you use the number 5 on the numeric keypad by its self on a word it if pressed 2 times will spell out that word.


If you use the insert key + 5 on the main key board it will turn on and off report dynamic changes on and off.


Are you editing a document or reading it with the review cursor?


Gene nz


On 2/03/2020 10:51 am, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

I am not quite sure when this started--probably with the 2019.3 update, but now when I am in a Thunderbird message and I want to try to highlight a word in an open message and check the spelling, when I press insert + numpad 5, NVDA says: 'blank.' This also occurs in the subject field and the other header fields.

Has anyone else noticed this and is there a work around?

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Gene,

This isn't my day for giving examples.  On another list, I gave an incorrect command.  I know the keystroke for spelling a word in numpad 5.  In any case, on my system, NVDA says: 'blank.'


On 3/1/2020 5:05 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know what is causing the problem.  But using a different command should solve it.  You should be able to have the word you are on in the document spelled by just pressing numpad 5 by itself.  That Is the equivalent of spell current word even though it is defined as spelling the current navigator object.  One press will say the current word.  Two will spell it.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2020 3:51 PM
Subject: [nvda] Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Hi Group,

I am not quite sure when this started--probably with the 2019.3 update,
but now when I am in a Thunderbird message and I want to try to
highlight a word in an open message and check the spelling, when I press
insert + numpad 5, NVDA says: 'blank.'  This also occurs in the subject
field and the other header fields.

Has anyone else noticed this and is there a work around?

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"




-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Gene


I guess if i wanted to read the subject line i would hit the number 8 2 times to have it spelled out or just the once to hear it.


Not the nvda key + 5 but it seems to do it similar.



I guess I could do like a trouble shooting in nvda and give a demo of what to do so they can hear the difference on the website.


Gene nz


On 2/03/2020 12:11 pm, Gene wrote:
Using insert numpad 5 does indeed report and spell the current navigator object.  Compare the description of that command with input help on with just numpad 5 with input help on, where the action is different but should do what Ron wants. Insert numpad 5 reports the current navigator object.  Issued twice, the command spells the current navigator object.  That means that far more than one word may be spelled.  Numpad 5 reports the current word of the navigator object.  it is roughly equivalent to say currewnt word.  Issued twice, it is roughly equivalent to spell current word.  for Ron's purposes, just numpad 5 should be used,  As I said, insert numpad 5 may announce far more than the current word and insert numpad 5 twice may spell far more than the current word.  I just trieed insert numpad 5 in a Notepad document and an entire line was read.  Insert numpad 5 read just the current word.  Either insert may be used..
 
I should add that if the newest stable version of NVDA doesn't track the application cursor in Thunderbird, neither command will work as expected.  But there is a reasonable chance that numpad 5 pressed twice will do what is wanted.  We'll see.
 
Also, you should be in object navigation mode when you use either of these commands when you want to work with where the application cursor is.  If you are not in object review, you may have text read that doesn't reflect where you are.  I've said before that you should automatically be placed in object review no matter what mode you are currently in when you move to a new window.  This is one more instance why. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2020 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Hi


In which mode are you in?


Pressing the insert key + 5 on the numeric key pad does nothing.


But if you use the number 5 on the numeric keypad by its self on a word
it if pressed 2 times will spell out that word.


If you use the insert key + 5 on the main key board it will turn on and
off report dynamic changes on and off.


Are you editing a document or reading it with the review cursor?


Gene nz


On 2/03/2020 10:51 am, Ron Canazzi wrote:
> Hi Group,
>
> I am not quite sure when this started--probably with the 2019.3
> update, but now when I am in a Thunderbird message and I want to try
> to highlight a word in an open message and check the spelling, when I
> press insert + numpad 5, NVDA says: 'blank.'  This also occurs in the
> subject field and the other header fields.
>
> Has anyone else noticed this and is there a work around?
>



Re: a question regarding NVDA portable

abdul muhamin
 

O great, thanks a lot

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Sunday, March 1, 2020 10:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a question regarding NVDA portable

 

Hi

 

From the user guide the restrictions below.

 

3.1. Portable and Temporary Copy Restrictions
Apart from the inability to automatically start during and/or after log-on, the portable and temporary copies of NVDA also have the following restrictions:
• The inability to interact with applications running with administrative privileges, unless of course NVDA itself has been run also with these privileges (not recommended).
• The inability to read User Account Control (UAC) screens when trying to start an application with administrative privileges.
• Windows 8 and later: the inability to support input from a touchscreen.
• Windows 8 and later: the inability to provide features such as browse mode and speaking of typed characters in Windows Store apps.
• Windows 8 and later: audio ducking is not supported.
 

Gene nz

 

 

On 1/03/2020 9:50 am, abdul muhamin wrote:

Hi all, while using nvda copy, I noticed that the device manager is not accessible, I want to know more about the limitations in portable NVDA. Thanks.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Re: Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Gene
 

I meant to say that insert numpad 5 read far more than the current word in the Notepad document.  Just numpad 5 only read the current word.
 
Also, I would strongly suggest that people get in the habit of always returning to object navigation mode after using any other mode.  Since NVDA doesn't do this automatically, ppeople should always do this.
 
I think the other Gene is correct and that it is likely that you are in review mode and that is causing the problem.  If so, this is just one more illustration of my contention that you should always be returned to object navigation mode when you move out of the current window.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2020 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Using insert numpad 5 does indeed report and spell the current navigator object.  Compare the description of that command with input help on with just numpad 5 with input help on, where the action is different but should do what Ron wants. Insert numpad 5 reports the current navigator object.  Issued twice, the command spells the current navigator object.  That means that far more than one word may be spelled.  Numpad 5 reports the current word of the navigator object.  it is roughly equivalent to say currewnt word.  Issued twice, it is roughly equivalent to spell current word.  for Ron's purposes, just numpad 5 should be used,  As I said, insert numpad 5 may announce far more than the current word and insert numpad 5 twice may spell far more than the current word.  I just trieed insert numpad 5 in a Notepad document and an entire line was read.  Insert numpad 5 read just the current word.  Either insert may be used..
 
I should add that if the newest stable version of NVDA doesn't track the application cursor in Thunderbird, neither command will work as expected.  But there is a reasonable chance that numpad 5 pressed twice will do what is wanted.  We'll see.
 
Also, you should be in object navigation mode when you use either of these commands when you want to work with where the application cursor is.  If you are not in object review, you may have text read that doesn't reflect where you are.  I've said before that you should automatically be placed in object review no matter what mode you are currently in when you move to a new window.  This is one more instance why. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2020 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Hi


In which mode are you in?


Pressing the insert key + 5 on the numeric key pad does nothing.


But if you use the number 5 on the numeric keypad by its self on a word
it if pressed 2 times will spell out that word.


If you use the insert key + 5 on the main key board it will turn on and
off report dynamic changes on and off.


Are you editing a document or reading it with the review cursor?


Gene nz


On 2/03/2020 10:51 am, Ron Canazzi wrote:
> Hi Group,
>
> I am not quite sure when this started--probably with the 2019.3
> update, but now when I am in a Thunderbird message and I want to try
> to highlight a word in an open message and check the spelling, when I
> press insert + numpad 5, NVDA says: 'blank.'  This also occurs in the
> subject field and the other header fields.
>
> Has anyone else noticed this and is there a work around?
>



Re: Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Gene
 

Using insert numpad 5 does indeed report and spell the current navigator object.  Compare the description of that command with input help on with just numpad 5 with input help on, where the action is different but should do what Ron wants. Insert numpad 5 reports the current navigator object.  Issued twice, the command spells the current navigator object.  That means that far more than one word may be spelled.  Numpad 5 reports the current word of the navigator object.  it is roughly equivalent to say currewnt word.  Issued twice, it is roughly equivalent to spell current word.  for Ron's purposes, just numpad 5 should be used,  As I said, insert numpad 5 may announce far more than the current word and insert numpad 5 twice may spell far more than the current word.  I just trieed insert numpad 5 in a Notepad document and an entire line was read.  Insert numpad 5 read just the current word.  Either insert may be used..
 
I should add that if the newest stable version of NVDA doesn't track the application cursor in Thunderbird, neither command will work as expected.  But there is a reasonable chance that numpad 5 pressed twice will do what is wanted.  We'll see.
 
Also, you should be in object navigation mode when you use either of these commands when you want to work with where the application cursor is.  If you are not in object review, you may have text read that doesn't reflect where you are.  I've said before that you should automatically be placed in object review no matter what mode you are currently in when you move to a new window.  This is one more instance why. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, March 01, 2020 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Numpad Issue With NVDA And Thunderbird

Hi


In which mode are you in?


Pressing the insert key + 5 on the numeric key pad does nothing.


But if you use the number 5 on the numeric keypad by its self on a word
it if pressed 2 times will spell out that word.


If you use the insert key + 5 on the main key board it will turn on and
off report dynamic changes on and off.


Are you editing a document or reading it with the review cursor?


Gene nz


On 2/03/2020 10:51 am, Ron Canazzi wrote:
> Hi Group,
>
> I am not quite sure when this started--probably with the 2019.3
> update, but now when I am in a Thunderbird message and I want to try
> to highlight a word in an open message and check the spelling, when I
> press insert + numpad 5, NVDA says: 'blank.'  This also occurs in the
> subject field and the other header fields.
>
> Has anyone else noticed this and is there a work around?
>