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Re: NVDA read-to-end

Hettie <woehler.hettie@...>
 

David

Thanks for the reply. I use the synthesizer that comes with nvda, think it is Espeak.


Hettie


On 2020/08/25 11:25 pm, David Goldfield wrote:

Hettie,

First, I do recall encountering this issue with LibreOffice but this was many years ago. I'll give it a try with NVDA 2020.2 with LibreOffice 7.0, which was recently released. Also, which synthesizer are you using? I ask because Acapela recently released a new version of its NVDA driver which they report corrects a read all issue although they did not go into specifics as to what the problem actually was.


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On 8/25/2020 2:23 PM, Hettie wrote:

Hi Quintin

After trying the read-to-end in thunderbird and wordpad it seems to be a problem with LibreOffice. I can't upgrade to Microsoft Office 10 and tried LibreOffice  as an alternative as it has a word processor as well as a spread sheet unction. Wordpad can perform all I need but I need another program that can read and work with Excel, anyone has ideas of what other accessible software I can use?


Thanks


Hettie

 

On 2020/08/25 6:54 am, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Are you using NVDA in desktop keyboard layout or laptop keyboard layout?  NVDA+down arrow is the Desktop layout keystroke to read to end.  NVDA+a is the laptop keyboard layout shortcut.

To make it a bit more confusing, NVDA+down arrow, in laptop keyboard layout, moves the review cursor to the next line, so if you are in laptop layout and press that keystroke, it will seem like you've entered the read to end command and NVDA is simply reading the next line down and then stopping.

If you are definitely in desktop keyboard layout and NVDA is stopping partway through a paragraph, could you please give a bit more information about the exact program you are in or where it does and does not work?

Kind regards

Quentin.
Quentin.

On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 4:27 AM Hettie <woehler.hettie@...> wrote:

Hi all

Sorry, I didn't pay attention when this topic was discussed in earlier posts as I haven't come accross that problem then.

Now however I do experience nvda reading to the end of the paragraph when pressing the nvda + down-arrow keys. Unfortunately I haven't seen a post with the solution. Can you please help ?

Thanks.


Hettie



On 2020/08/21 2:25 pm, Ralf Kefferpuetz wrote:

Hello,

Go to the NVDA icon in the systray by pressing Windows-B (on your Mac keyboard Option-B), hit the letter N until you come to NVDA and press Enter

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via groups.io
Sent: Freitag, 21. August 2020 13:54
To: NVDA@NVDA.Groups.IO
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Menu

 

Hi friends,

 

I Have installed NVDA on a machine which has a bluetooth keyboard and I can’t find the insert key, not sure if it has one, it is the Apple style layout.

I Need to bring up the NVDA menu to go in to the options and change the keyboard layout to be laptop but I can’t perform an instert+n, does anyone know of another way to bring up the NVDA menu please?

 



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Re: Problems with capslock as NVDA modifier

Jackie
 

Janet, go to your keyboard settings in NVDA (NVDA + control + k), & tab to:
"Beep if typing lowercase letters when caps lock is on"
Make certain that box is checked, & press ok. At that point, you
should hear a beep when you press the shift key & caps lock is on
already.

On 8/26/20, Janet Brandly <jbrandly@shaw.ca> wrote:
Hello all,



I am using the latest NVDA with Windows 10 2004 on a laptop. I have the
capslock set as the NVDA modifier. Occasionally the capslock key will
activate and I end up typing in all caps. I have no way of knowing this.
I've checked the NVDA settings to be sure the capslock is set as the
modifier and it is. Any suggestions?



Thanks,



Janet






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Problems with capslock as NVDA modifier

Janet Brandly
 

Hello all,

 

I am using the latest NVDA with Windows 10 2004 on a laptop. I have the capslock set as the NVDA modifier. Occasionally the capslock key will activate and I end up typing in all caps. I have no way of knowing this. I’ve checked the NVDA settings to be sure the capslock is set as the modifier and it is. Any suggestions?

 

Thanks,

 

Janet

 


Issue with ObjPad and activation of objects which are reported as being off screen

Amir
 

Folks, I have an application which requires the invaluable ObjPad add-on for proper interaction. However, as I move through its objects in the ObjectNav mode, via the Right Arrow, and reach a certain point in the tree of objects, each press of Insert+5 indicates that the object is off screen. That means the objects which are off screen can't be activated or selected by pressing Space, Enter or NVDA+Enter. Interestingly, the objects which aren't off screen and are located before the first off-screen object don't exhibit this issue.
So my question is how we can force ObjPad or NVDA to move the focus to these objects for activation. I've tried NVDA+NumPadDivide but it doesn't work for off-screen objects either. Other ObjPad modes don't work with these objects as far as their activation is concerned.

Cheers,
Amir


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Re: NVDA read-to-end

Gene
 

Here is something you can try. I don't know if it will work in Libre Office but see if this is a good work around. It works in Word10 Starter. I don't know the laptop command. The desktop command is shift numpad insert numpad minus, the rightmost key on the top row of the numpad. In other words, hold shift and numpad insert and while doing so, press numpad minus. If you press it twice, it moves the carret to the focus of the object navigator. Be in object navigation mode. This won't work if you don't.

If you are inn object navigation, the entire document you open is seen by NVDA as one object. You can read from beginning to end with object navigation commands. To test whether this procedure works, do the following using laptop keyboard commands if you are using a laptop. I don't know them; I'll give the desktop commands.
Open a document. Start reading with read to end of navigator object, numpad plus. See if the document reads without interruption.
If you want to move to where you stop reading, the navigator will be there but if you want to work with the document and move the carret there, issue the command I gave earlier, shift num;pad insert numpad minus. Issue it twice quickly. You can keep holding the shift but when you issue it quickly, you must release all the other keys including numpad insert. that will move the cursor to where the navigator is, in other words, to where you stopped reading.

See if this work around works in Libre Office.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 11:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA read-to-end


FIrstly Leslie,

No, we haven't changed anything from our end, you should be able to press NVDA+A (Laptop keyboard layout) or NVDA+down arrow (desktop keyboard layout) to say all, in a document, a web page or an email.

Now as for what is happening, as Gene mentioned, a log would help, ideally at Debug level, and ideally with add-ons disabled (do you have any add-ons?)

Looking through our issues I found: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/10852 about say all in Firefox or Wordpad which was resolved by the user running the COM registration fixing tool. To do that, press NVDA+N, then press T for tools, then down arrow to "Run COM registration fixing tool" and press ENTER.

There are a handful of other closed issues which were either from using broken add-ons, or illegal ones, or other things which have been fixed and merged in NVDA 2019.3 and earlier.

One which is still open is https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/4119 which is an issue in Libre Office at least. Last time I looked at this issue, the workaround I found which resolved it, was when you open a document in Libre Office, press CONTROL+END to jump to the very bottom of the document, then CONTROL+HOME to come back to the top, then say all should work.

I just tested and it looks like that issue is still present in Libre Office 6.3.0.4 using the latest NVDA alpha. That isn't isn't in WordPad to my knowledge however. As far as I know, that is caused by a bug in Libre Office and has pretty much always been there.

I just update to Libre Office 7.0.0 and it still behaves the same.

Quentin.


On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 1:31 PM Leslie <soundsofmusic@san.rr.com> wrote:


Unless I press NVDA plus A I can never read a full email. This just started with the newest update. If I want to skip down through a long message I need to press control plus down arrow. If I don’t press those keys, I can’t keep moving through the email. I thought something I did to my computer did this until someone else in the class I’m taking had the same problem and we both have NVDA. Is this a bug or is this the way you want as a new NVDA. Thing? I couldn’t find it in the commands.



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Re: NVDA read-to-end

Quentin Christensen
 

FIrstly Leslie,

No, we haven't changed anything from our end, you should be able to press NVDA+A (Laptop keyboard layout) or NVDA+down arrow (desktop keyboard layout) to say all, in a document, a web page or an email.

Now as for what is happening, as Gene mentioned, a log would help, ideally at Debug level, and ideally with add-ons disabled (do you have any add-ons?)

Looking through our issues I found: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/10852 about say all in Firefox or Wordpad which was resolved by the user running the COM registration fixing tool.  To do that, press NVDA+N, then press T for tools, then down arrow to "Run COM registration fixing tool" and press ENTER.

There are a handful of other closed issues which were either from using broken add-ons, or illegal ones, or other things which have been fixed and merged in NVDA 2019.3 and earlier.

One which is still open is https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/4119 which is an issue in Libre Office at least.  Last time I looked at this issue, the workaround I found which resolved it, was when you open a document in Libre Office, press CONTROL+END to jump to the very bottom of the document, then CONTROL+HOME to come back to the top, then say all should work.

I just tested and it looks like that issue is still present in Libre Office 6.3.0.4 using the latest NVDA alpha.  That isn't isn't in WordPad to my knowledge however.  As far as I know, that is caused by a bug in Libre Office and has pretty much always been there.

I just update to Libre Office 7.0.0 and it still behaves the same.

Quentin.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 1:31 PM Leslie <soundsofmusic@...> wrote:

Unless I press NVDA plus A I can never read a full email.  This just started with the newest update.  If I want to skip down through a long message I need to press control plus down arrow.  If I don’t press those keys, I can’t keep moving through the email.  I thought something I did to my computer did this until someone else in the class I’m taking had the same problem and we both have NVDA.  Is this a bug or is this the way you want as a new NVDA. Thing?  I couldn’t find it in the commands.

 

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Re: NVDA read-to-end

Leslie
 

Unless I press NVDA plus A I can never read a full email.  This just started with the newest update.  If I want to skip down through a long message I need to press control plus down arrow.  If I don’t press those keys, I can’t keep moving through the email.  I thought something I did to my computer did this until someone else in the class I’m taking had the same problem and we both have NVDA.  Is this a bug or is this the way you want as a new NVDA. Thing?  I couldn’t find it in the commands.

 

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Re: NVDA read-to-end

Gene
 

I've seen something like three posts complaining about read to end stopping before it should. I don't recall how you want logs sent, but maybe a log from when this happens would show something. On some web pages, read to end stops two or three times when I'm reading an article. That is one reason why I use an old, very old version, since I'm using Windows 7 and this old version meets almost all my needs, and it doesn't happen with that version.

Since I've only seen something like three messages saying that a user has this happen, it may not be a common bug, but maybe this discussion will help us know.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: George McCoy
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 7:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA read-to-end



It happens to me with Notetab++ and the 1-core synthesizers. Trouble is, it's intermitent. I can't determine what causes it to start and stop happening. It's the worst kind of bug because it's hard to duplicate.




George


On 8/24/2020 11:54 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Are you using NVDA in desktop keyboard layout or laptop keyboard layout? NVDA+down arrow is the Desktop layout keystroke to read to end. NVDA+a is the laptop keyboard layout shortcut.

To make it a bit more confusing, NVDA+down arrow, in laptop keyboard layout, moves the review cursor to the next line, so if you are in laptop layout and press that keystroke, it will seem like you've entered the read to end command and NVDA is simply reading the next line down and then stopping.

If you are definitely in desktop keyboard layout and NVDA is stopping partway through a paragraph, could you please give a bit more information about the exact program you are in or where it does and does not work?

Kind regards

Quentin.
Quentin.


On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 4:27 AM Hettie <woehler.hettie@gmail.com> wrote:


Hi all

Sorry, I didn't pay attention when this topic was discussed in earlier posts as I haven't come accross that problem then.

Now however I do experience nvda reading to the end of the paragraph when pressing the nvda + down-arrow keys. Unfortunately I haven't seen a post with the solution. Can you please help ?

Thanks.





Hettie







On 2020/08/21 2:25 pm, Ralf Kefferpuetz wrote:


Hello,

Go to the NVDA icon in the systray by pressing Windows-B (on your Mac keyboard Option-B), hit the letter N until you come to NVDA and press Enter



Cheers,

Ralf





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Sent: Freitag, 21. August 2020 13:54
To: NVDA@NVDA.Groups.IO
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Menu





Hi friends,



I Have installed NVDA on a machine which has a bluetooth keyboard and I can’t find the insert key, not sure if it has one, it is the Apple style layout.

I Need to bring up the NVDA menu to go in to the options and change the keyboard layout to be laptop but I can’t perform an instert+n, does anyone know of another way to bring up the NVDA menu please?





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Re: NVDA read-to-end

George McCoy
 

It happens to me with Notetab++ and the 1-core synthesizers. Trouble is, it's intermitent. I can't determine what causes it to start and stop happening. It's the worst kind of bug because it's hard to duplicate.


George

On 8/24/2020 11:54 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Are you using NVDA in desktop keyboard layout or laptop keyboard layout?  NVDA+down arrow is the Desktop layout keystroke to read to end.  NVDA+a is the laptop keyboard layout shortcut.

To make it a bit more confusing, NVDA+down arrow, in laptop keyboard layout, moves the review cursor to the next line, so if you are in laptop layout and press that keystroke, it will seem like you've entered the read to end command and NVDA is simply reading the next line down and then stopping.

If you are definitely in desktop keyboard layout and NVDA is stopping partway through a paragraph, could you please give a bit more information about the exact program you are in or where it does and does not work?

Kind regards

Quentin.
Quentin.

On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 4:27 AM Hettie <woehler.hettie@...> wrote:

Hi all

Sorry, I didn't pay attention when this topic was discussed in earlier posts as I haven't come accross that problem then.

Now however I do experience nvda reading to the end of the paragraph when pressing the nvda + down-arrow keys. Unfortunately I haven't seen a post with the solution. Can you please help ?

Thanks.


Hettie



On 2020/08/21 2:25 pm, Ralf Kefferpuetz wrote:

Hello,

Go to the NVDA icon in the systray by pressing Windows-B (on your Mac keyboard Option-B), hit the letter N until you come to NVDA and press Enter

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via groups.io
Sent: Freitag, 21. August 2020 13:54
To: NVDA@NVDA.Groups.IO
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Menu

 

Hi friends,

 

I Have installed NVDA on a machine which has a bluetooth keyboard and I can’t find the insert key, not sure if it has one, it is the Apple style layout.

I Need to bring up the NVDA menu to go in to the options and change the keyboard layout to be laptop but I can’t perform an instert+n, does anyone know of another way to bring up the NVDA menu please?

 



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Re: NVDA read-to-end

David Goldfield
 

Hettie,

First, I do recall encountering this issue with LibreOffice but this was many years ago. I'll give it a try with NVDA 2020.2 with LibreOffice 7.0, which was recently released. Also, which synthesizer are you using? I ask because Acapela recently released a new version of its NVDA driver which they report corrects a read all issue although they did not go into specifics as to what the problem actually was.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
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On 8/25/2020 2:23 PM, Hettie wrote:

Hi Quintin

After trying the read-to-end in thunderbird and wordpad it seems to be a problem with LibreOffice. I can't upgrade to Microsoft Office 10 and tried LibreOffice  as an alternative as it has a word processor as well as a spread sheet unction. Wordpad can perform all I need but I need another program that can read and work with Excel, anyone has ideas of what other accessible software I can use?


Thanks


Hettie

 

On 2020/08/25 6:54 am, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Are you using NVDA in desktop keyboard layout or laptop keyboard layout?  NVDA+down arrow is the Desktop layout keystroke to read to end.  NVDA+a is the laptop keyboard layout shortcut.

To make it a bit more confusing, NVDA+down arrow, in laptop keyboard layout, moves the review cursor to the next line, so if you are in laptop layout and press that keystroke, it will seem like you've entered the read to end command and NVDA is simply reading the next line down and then stopping.

If you are definitely in desktop keyboard layout and NVDA is stopping partway through a paragraph, could you please give a bit more information about the exact program you are in or where it does and does not work?

Kind regards

Quentin.
Quentin.

On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 4:27 AM Hettie <woehler.hettie@...> wrote:

Hi all

Sorry, I didn't pay attention when this topic was discussed in earlier posts as I haven't come accross that problem then.

Now however I do experience nvda reading to the end of the paragraph when pressing the nvda + down-arrow keys. Unfortunately I haven't seen a post with the solution. Can you please help ?

Thanks.


Hettie



On 2020/08/21 2:25 pm, Ralf Kefferpuetz wrote:

Hello,

Go to the NVDA icon in the systray by pressing Windows-B (on your Mac keyboard Option-B), hit the letter N until you come to NVDA and press Enter

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via groups.io
Sent: Freitag, 21. August 2020 13:54
To: NVDA@NVDA.Groups.IO
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Menu

 

Hi friends,

 

I Have installed NVDA on a machine which has a bluetooth keyboard and I can’t find the insert key, not sure if it has one, it is the Apple style layout.

I Need to bring up the NVDA menu to go in to the options and change the keyboard layout to be laptop but I can’t perform an instert+n, does anyone know of another way to bring up the NVDA menu please?

 



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Re: Windows OneCore voices don't appear correctly in the list of synthesizers

 

Hi,

If you sent me the log, I didn’t get it yet.

As for the immediate issue at hand: based on Windows version as reported by Python, it appears one of two things happened:

  1. NVDA is somehow told to run in Windows 8 compatibility mode (to check, go to Desktop, select but do not press Enter on NVDA icon, press Alt+Enter, then go to Compatibility tab and see if any checkboxes are checked).
  2. Windows compatibility manifest info for NVDA has somehow become corrupt. NVDA gets compatibility manifest values from Python in recent NVDA releases, which controls which version of Windows compatibility shims (compatibility layer code) Python (and in extension, NVDA) will run under. This will require a “thorough” reinstall – not only removing NVDA and all its files and traces from the system, it will also require removing user settings altogether.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Louise Pfau
Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2020 1:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows OneCore voices don't appear correctly in the list of synthesizers

 

Hi.  The information in the log is very similar, except the windows version is listed as "Windows Version 6.2.9200 work station".  I've sent the complete log to Joseph as well.

Louise


Re: Windows OneCore voices don't appear correctly in the list of synthesizers

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  The information in the log is very similar, except the windows version is listed as "Windows Version 6.2.9200 work station".  I've sent the complete log to Joseph as well.

Louise


Re: Windows OneCore voices don't appear correctly in the list of synthesizers

Chris
 

Try restarting rather than shutting down, then see if that makes a difference

 

 

 

 

 

From: Louise Pfau
Sent: 25 August 2020 19:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows OneCore voices don't appear correctly in the list of synthesizers

 

Hi.  I am not currently using any add-ons.  I shut down my desktop computer every night.  No synthesizer is showing as chosen when I activate the "Select a synthesizer" dialog.  When I uninstalled then reinstalled NVDA, the default synthesizer was "ESpeak-NG".  I was able at that point to switch to the "Windows OneCore voices" through the "Select a synthesizer" dialog, although the "Windows OneCore voices" haven't shown up since.  I haven't tried to change synthesizers again since I have the settings I like.  The "Windows OneCore Voices" and "SAPI 5" synthesizers do sound identical.

Louise

 


Re: Windows OneCore voices don't appear correctly in the list of synthesizers

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Louise

Press NVDA+f1 to open the NVDA log and then press Control+home to move to the beginning of it.  Does it look anything like the following, particularly around 15 lines in where the synth driver is loaded?

 

INFO - __main__ (10:03:22.350) - MainThread (4448):

Starting NVDA version 2020.2

INFO - core.main (10:03:22.977) - MainThread (4448):

Config dir: C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (10:03:22.977) - MainThread (4448):

Loading config: C:\Users\Chris\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (10:03:23.401) - MainThread (4448):

Using Windows version 10.0.19041 workstation

INFO - core.main (10:03:23.401) - MainThread (4448):

Using Python version 3.7.8 (tags/v3.7.8:4b47a5b6ba, Jun 28 2020, 07:55:33) [MSC v.1916 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (10:03:23.401) - MainThread (4448):

Using comtypes version 1.1.7

INFO - core.main (10:03:23.401) - MainThread (4448):

Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (10:03:26.193) - MainThread (4448):

Loaded synthDriver oneCore

INFO - core.main (10:03:26.193) - MainThread (4448):

Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5 with six version 1.12.0

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (10:03:26.201) - MainThread (4448):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (10:03:26.203) - MainThread (4448):

Using liblouis version 3.14.0

INFO - braille.initialize (10:03:26.213) - MainThread (4448):

Using pySerial version 3.4

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (10:03:26.234) - MainThread (4448):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

INFO - core.main (10:03:26.901) - MainThread (4448):

Java Access Bridge support initialized

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (10:03:26.992) - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThread (8032):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6

INFO - core.main (10:03:29.847) - MainThread (4448):

NVDA initialized

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

From: Louise Pfau
Sent: 25 August 2020 19:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows OneCore voices don't appear correctly in the listof synthesizers

 

Hi.  I am not currently using any add-ons.  I shut down my desktop computer every night.  No synthesizer is showing as chosen when I activate the "Select a synthesizer" dialog.  When I uninstalled then reinstalled NVDA, the default synthesizer was "ESpeak-NG".  I was able at that point to switch to the "Windows OneCore voices" through the "Select a synthesizer" dialog, although the "Windows OneCore voices" haven't shown up since.  I haven't tried to change synthesizers again since I have the settings I like.  The "Windows OneCore Voices" and "SAPI 5" synthesizers do sound identical.

Louise

 


Re: Windows OneCore voices don't appear correctly in the list of synthesizers

Louise Pfau
 

Hi.  I am not currently using any add-ons.  I shut down my desktop computer every night.  No synthesizer is showing as chosen when I activate the "Select a synthesizer" dialog.  When I uninstalled then reinstalled NVDA, the default synthesizer was "ESpeak-NG".  I was able at that point to switch to the "Windows OneCore voices" through the "Select a synthesizer" dialog, although the "Windows OneCore voices" haven't shown up since.  I haven't tried to change synthesizers again since I have the settings I like.  The "Windows OneCore Voices" and "SAPI 5" synthesizers do sound identical.

Louise


Re: NVDA read-to-end

Hettie <woehler.hettie@...>
 

Hi Quintin

After trying the read-to-end in thunderbird and wordpad it seems to be a problem with LibreOffice. I can't upgrade to Microsoft Office 10 and tried LibreOffice  as an alternative as it has a word processor as well as a spread sheet unction. Wordpad can perform all I need but I need another program that can read and work with Excel, anyone has ideas of what other accessible software I can use?


Thanks


Hettie

 

On 2020/08/25 6:54 am, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Are you using NVDA in desktop keyboard layout or laptop keyboard layout?  NVDA+down arrow is the Desktop layout keystroke to read to end.  NVDA+a is the laptop keyboard layout shortcut.

To make it a bit more confusing, NVDA+down arrow, in laptop keyboard layout, moves the review cursor to the next line, so if you are in laptop layout and press that keystroke, it will seem like you've entered the read to end command and NVDA is simply reading the next line down and then stopping.

If you are definitely in desktop keyboard layout and NVDA is stopping partway through a paragraph, could you please give a bit more information about the exact program you are in or where it does and does not work?

Kind regards

Quentin.
Quentin.

On Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 4:27 AM Hettie <woehler.hettie@...> wrote:

Hi all

Sorry, I didn't pay attention when this topic was discussed in earlier posts as I haven't come accross that problem then.

Now however I do experience nvda reading to the end of the paragraph when pressing the nvda + down-arrow keys. Unfortunately I haven't seen a post with the solution. Can you please help ?

Thanks.


Hettie



On 2020/08/21 2:25 pm, Ralf Kefferpuetz wrote:

Hello,

Go to the NVDA icon in the systray by pressing Windows-B (on your Mac keyboard Option-B), hit the letter N until you come to NVDA and press Enter

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES) via groups.io
Sent: Freitag, 21. August 2020 13:54
To: NVDA@NVDA.Groups.IO
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Menu

 

Hi friends,

 

I Have installed NVDA on a machine which has a bluetooth keyboard and I can’t find the insert key, not sure if it has one, it is the Apple style layout.

I Need to bring up the NVDA menu to go in to the options and change the keyboard layout to be laptop but I can’t perform an instert+n, does anyone know of another way to bring up the NVDA menu please?

 



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Re: what addons can i get with the most recent version of NVDA?

Socheat
 

On 8/25/2020 7:30 PM, David Ingram wrote:
Hi, how are you?  Where can I get these windows 10 app essentials.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Aug 24, 2020 2:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what addons can i get with the most recent version of NVDA?

Hi,

I see. The most likely explanation is that, somewhere in the installation process, the add-on thinks you are running an older Windows 10 release, which isn’t clearly the case.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Louise Pfau
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 12:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what addons can i get with the most recent version of NVDA?

 

Hi.  I ended up cancelling the installation when the message about the older version of Windows came up.  I downloaded the "Windows 10 app essentials" add-on from the NVDA add-ons website.  I haven't used the NVDA add-on updater.

Louise


Re: what addons can i get with the most recent version of NVDA?

David Ingram
 

Hi, how are you?  Where can I get these windows 10 app essentials.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Aug 24, 2020 2:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what addons can i get with the most recent version of NVDA?

Hi,

I see. The most likely explanation is that, somewhere in the installation process, the add-on thinks you are running an older Windows 10 release, which isn’t clearly the case.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Louise Pfau
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2020 12:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what addons can i get with the most recent version of NVDA?

 

Hi.  I ended up cancelling the installation when the message about the older version of Windows came up.  I downloaded the "Windows 10 app essentials" add-on from the NVDA add-ons website.  I haven't used the NVDA add-on updater.

Louise


Re: what addons can i get with the most recent version of NVDA?

David Ingram
 

how do I get the windows 10 ap essentials for NVDA?

-----Original Message-----
From: Louise Pfau
Sent: Aug 24, 2020 2:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what addons can i get with the most recent version of NVDA?

Hi.  I ended up cancelling the installation when the message about the older version of Windows came up.  I downloaded the "Windows 10 app essentials" add-on from the NVDA add-ons website.  I haven't used the NVDA add-on updater.

Louise

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