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Re: having trouble with NVDA skipping around on a web page

Tony Malykh
 

You can try fast browse mode by pressing NVDA+nomber row 8 until you hear:
automatically set system focus to focusable elements off
I wrote it specifically to prevent JavaScript-heavy pages to steal your focus.
HTH
--Tony

On 3/27/2020 6:39 AM, Scott Berry wrote:
Hello there,


I am having a problem where NVDA skips around on universalclass.com.  I am trying to take an exam and the screen reader tends to just jump around the whole page.  I would appreciate any ideas to possibly fix this.



Re: NVDA Error

Andrea Sherry
 

Not really. I'm just getting that error double tone.
BTW I put the wrong version. I am using the latest beta.
Andrea

On 28/03/2020 8:57 am, Brian Vogel wrote:
Is there anything more specific than just "NVDA Error?"    More of an error message or a code associated with same?

--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.*

~ Madonna


Re: 2019.3.1, random stops during say all.

 

Hi,

Nope. I bet there’s something going on with the app you are using and/or the speech synthesizer not handling internal speech changes correctly.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Zaitchik, Alan via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 3:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2019.3.1, random stops during say all.

 

Did NVDA 2019.3.1 change the default number of characters to read before stopping? Just asking….


A

 


Re: 2019.3.1, random stops during say all.

Zaitchik, Alan
 

Did NVDA 2019.3.1 change the default number of characters to read before stopping? Just asking….


A

 


Re: NVDA Error

 

Is there anything more specific than just "NVDA Error?"    More of an error message or a code associated with same?

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


NVDA 2020 beta and code factory vocalizer addon

Don H
 

So am I understanding that there are issues with the Code factory vocalizer addon and the latest NVDA beta?


NVDA Error

Andrea Sherry
 

Using Windows 10 with 2019.3.1.
Getting NVDA error but have no idea was causes this.
Andrea


Re: Tiflotecnia's Status on Vocalizer Angelica, Nathan and other newer voices

cédric Paulet
 

Good evening,

I encounter a problem with nvda vocalizer 3.1.1 driver with nvda 2020 beta 1. When nvda is loaded, there are a series of beeps. They don’t stop.

Is there a solution to solve the problem.

Furthermore, is not possible to change the credentials or deactivate the license with this driver.

Thanks

Best regards

Cedric

De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Gerardo Corripio
Envoyé : vendredi 27 mars 2020 17:31
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : [nvda] Tiflotecnia's Status on Vocalizer Angelica, Nathan and other newer voices

 

Rui and list

What’s the status on coming out with Angelica, Nathan and other newer Vocalizer voices, to continue to enrich our experiences with NVDA and have more variety of voies to work with?

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 


Re: Installing add ons to the most recent version of NVDA

Jim Stanga
 

Hi Rui:

 

When I get to the Addons web page and open the files nothing happens.

I do not see anything about installation.

Am I missing something?

 

Thanks,

 

Jim

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 4:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Installing add ons to the most recent version of NVDA

 

Hello!

 

When you activate the "Get add-ons" button it should open the add-ons repository webpage...

 

Rui Fontes

 

Às 19:45 de 27/03/2020, Jim Stanga escreveu:

Hello:

 

I have installed the most recent version of NVDA.

(not sure how to confirm the version number)

When I go to the Addons manager I cannot seem to install the new addons.

I go  to get Addons but nothing happens when I open the file.

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Jim Stanga

 


problem with Arabic multi-cell characters when inputting braille with NVDA

Ikrami
 

Hi, so I use my braille display to type using nvda. I choose the Arabic grade1 table as an input and output. Must of things works good, except for the symbols that contain more than one cell. For example, we have the Arabic comma is dot five, and the colon is dot five followed by dot two in the next cell.

When I press dot five, it stypes comma, but when I follow it with dot 2, nvda says “unsupported input”, and does nothing. The expected behavior is that it should translate it to a colon sign.

My understanding that if a symbol consists of more than one cell, and the first part of this symbol is identified as another symbol in its own, NVDA understands only the first part of it and ignores the second part.

This also applies to the Arabic grade2 table. Most of the abbreviations give this “unsupported input” message when being written, although they are being displayed properly.

I am using the latest nvda release.

I hope you can help me in this regard.

Thanks

 


Re: Q Read alternative

Isaac Porat
 

Hi Chris


A few things to add to David's answers...


1. To reduce the voice interraptions,  From the manager press:

Global settings > Messages settings


A task (SpeakOn dialogue) appears


There are two settings for messages and control spoken choose the ones to suit you.


I recommend the current setting until you are familiar with the program.


2. It does require admin privileges and does the UAC comes up. If I continue to develop the program in the future this is something I would consider doing something about.


Personally I find the UAC a waste of time because when enabled, it came up so many times that I got to automatically acknowledge it which defeated its purpose in the first place so I disabled it permanently probably over five years ago, I use Windows defender which does a great job, and I am careful with security and update Windows and apps etc and so far I had no issues. Of course this is my opinion and people might prefer to use the UAC.


Regards

Isaac

On 27/03/2020 10:28, Chris Mullins wrote:
Hi David
Thanks for the information. You have answered the question for the issue that was irritating me the most and now I understand the folder requirements for adding book sources to the library, I can amend the folder structure prior to loading SMS.

Cheers
Chris

From: David Griffith
Sent: 26 March 2020 15:57
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative


I can answer the second question – yes whilst the Audio Book player is in focus go to menu and then settings and there, there is a toggle to speak track information which you can turn to on or off.

In relation to refreshing the folder path within Speak On, ,I don’t think you can or at least I have not found a way, however I have got used to habitually shutting down speak on rather than alt tabbing away from it before adding content. So this solves this issue for me. It is not a problem for me personally as on my system Speak On loads pretty quickly and the automatic bookmarking feature means that I am always where I was last reading when I return to an app anyway.

David Griffith
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: 26 March 2020 15:31
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

Hi Isaac
I saw a message on the list re SpeakOn and have downloaded it and I am extremely impressed with it’s functionality and ease of use.  There are a few minor annoyances which you may or may not be able to do anything about but I thought I would seek your opinion regarding them.

Firstly, I am using Windows 10 and set up the desktop shortcut to run as administrator to avoid the UAC allow this software etc window but unfortunately, 3 of the 4 levels of UAC  security trigger a different UAC message “Do you want to allow this app from an unknown publisher to make changes to your device?”.  The only way around this is to turn UAC security off altogether, which also obviates the “run as admin” requirement.  Is it possible to get the software certificated in some way to avoid this message?

Secondly, when reading an audio book, is there any way to suppress the announcement of the file names as it moves through the files making up the book?  Similarly when playing Music tracks in an album or playlist?

Thirdly, this is a last minute discovery, so may be covered in the manual and I have missed it.  When trying to add an RNIB flash drive containing 3 Daisy books to the Audio Book library, I had to insert another folder level via windows to the flash drive to allow me to select it and add it’s contents to the Audio Book library.  When I restarted the task and initiated the Add/Library Audio Books Remove folder locations from the Settings sub-menu, The flash drive folder structure was the same as it was before I inserted the additional folder level.  Is there a way to refresh the folder tree view without having  to restart the app?

Cheers
Chris

From: Isaac Porat
Sent: 25 March 2020 17:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

Hi


More information on SpeakOn based on questions on this thread and others.


SpeakOn home page is at:

http://www.speakon.org.uk/SpeakOn.html


You will find information on the media types its support, links to the
docs and mailing list.


The tutorials produced by David Griffith recently found somewhere else
on this thread are excellent.


Although the latest version was released in 2016 with one minor
exception everything works and there are know known bugs.


SpeakOn supports English only and does not support Braille.

It does not support PDF either.


It is recommended by RNIB in the UK for reading their audio books in
Daisy; SpeakOn supports Daisy 2 used mostly (I think) in Europe. It does
not support Daisy 3 in the US.


Being developed in the UK it supports RNIB newspapers and magazines in
test (epub) and audio.

It supports the epub format generally.

It does not support DRM as used mostly in the US


The NVDA SpeakOn add-on is not necessary to use it but makes sure that
NVDA does not speakOn when SpeakOn has the focus; it does not speak much
anyway and I shall release an updated version of this add-on soon to
this list.


Regards

Isaac Porat

SpeakOn's developer



On 24/03/2020 19:48, Mallard wrote:
Hello,


I have one question. Does it support Braille?


Thanks,

Ciao,

Ollie




On 24/03/2020 19:04, Daniel Damacena wrote:
Could you send me a link for this?

I am amazed by your description!

Can it read pdf files?

Thank you!

Em 21/03/2020 22:38, David Griffith escreveu:
I know I am biased because I have done a podcast series on this
fantastic app but for me the best accessible ePub Book    reader on
a  PC , either paid, or free , remains by a country mile remains the
free Speak On Media Suite.

I am continually amazed it is never ever mentioned as an accessible
option for reading ePub books.

Just to mention a few of its features.

Customisation of book reading voice including on the fly adjustment
of reading volume and speed  of narration whilst reading a book
through hotkeys. I know of no other book reader which does this.

Able to easily navigate through a book by chapter structure ,
headings, 50 lines, paragraph, sentence line word or character.

Ability to easily set markers in text of ePub books and copy and
paste this text out of Speak On into a Word Processor.

Alternatively control a and control c will copy the chapter as text.

Ability to get single key press on book location and information.

Ability to resume reading from last position read on any book even
if file location has changed.

Bookmark management  - ability to set and delete bookmarks.

It even has a virtual book creation function based on a search term
which is incredibly  useful for study purposes.

Suppose you have a long academic book you need to search through to
study a topic, you can in Speak On define a search term and Speak On
will produce a smaller "virtual eBook” which will consists only of
the chapters which contain the key phrase or terms in your defined
search pattern. Again I know of no other accessible eBook reader
which contains this feature.

David Griffith

Just to mention just a few of the features.

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>; for
Windows 10

*From: *Jason White via Groups.Io <mailto:jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io>
*Sent: *22 March 2020 00:25
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Q Read alternative

Another option is to install Thorium Reader from the Microsoft
Store. It supports EPUB books. Bookshare can be set so that it
provides downloads in EPUB format.

*From: *<nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Robert Kingett
<kingettr@gmail.com>
*Reply-To: *<nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Date: *Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 09:26
*To: *<nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] Q Read alternative

I wanted to share an open source Q Read alternative called Bookworm.
It does not have bookshare support yet, nor does it support links,
and headings, or tables, but still. It's a free option. The main
website is below, where you can also read the manual.

I'm adding this to the accessible apps github page when I have a
moment.

https://mush42.github.io/bookworm/







Re: Installing add ons to the most recent version of NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!


When you activate the "Get add-ons" button it should open the add-ons repository webpage...


Rui Fontes


Às 19:45 de 27/03/2020, Jim Stanga escreveu:

Hello:

 

I have installed the most recent version of NVDA.

(not sure how to confirm the version number)

When I go to the Addons manager I cannot seem to install the new addons.

I go  to get Addons but nothing happens when I open the file.

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Jim Stanga

 


Installing add ons to the most recent version of NVDA

Jim Stanga
 

Hello:

 

I have installed the most recent version of NVDA.

(not sure how to confirm the version number)

When I go to the Addons manager I cannot seem to install the new addons.

I go  to get Addons but nothing happens when I open the file.

Any thoughts?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Jim Stanga

 


Windows 10, NVDA 2019.3.1 and Code Factory Eloquence Add-on

Marcia Yale
 

Is there a known problem with the above? A friend of mine can't change any
of the speech settings. They're stuck and are not changing. There was a
different list of settings we found when we installed the add-on but we
can't seem to get back to those. And changing any of the normal list of
speech settings is not doing anything. Help appreciated!

Marcia Yale
It is not our differences that divide us. It is our inability to recognize,
accept, and celebrate those differences.
Audre Lorde


Re: having trouble with NVDA skipping around on a web page

molly the blind tech lover
 

I totally agree with you, Brian, 100 percent. I wish I had something like a practice area of using the discussion board in blackboard before it actually came time to use it. I’ve been discussing with the accessibility council  here in the state I’m living in. Also, in order for me to show someone what accessibility challenges I am encountering in the discussion board they’d need my username and password, not something I am willing to give.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 10:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] having trouble with NVDA skipping around on a web page

 

It really helps as well to have an actual page to look at to try to figure out what's going on.   In this case, I imagine that would mean having to be enrolled.

That being said, this is why I encourage screen-reader users to communicate to entities like universalclass.com that they need to have a couple of sample pages of the various types of materials available for practice that anyone can get to before they are actually enrolled in anything.   That should be a basic thing that anyone offering online classes should do.  I've had to yell at several local community colleges and universities about the fact that they have nothing available under their course management systems that is a sandbox for anyone to play in.  It's hard enough getting into college courses to begin with, but you're really behind the 8-ball when you are a screen reader user and have never had any way to practice with sample materials so you don't have to "learn as you go" regarding the structure and style of the system in use.

Folks gotta raise their voices about this issue.  And throwing out mention of the ADA as part of that yelling generally doesn't hurt.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Tiflotecnia's Status on Vocalizer Angelica, Nathan and other newer voices

Gerardo Corripio
 

Rui and list

What’s the status on coming out with Angelica, Nathan and other newer Vocalizer voices, to continue to enrich our experiences with NVDA and have more variety of voies to work with?

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 


Re: question regard skype?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Hello. We have a list wherein you can discuss all of this and more with skype and its use with all screen readers. You can go [here])https://skypeenglish.groups.io/g/main) then scroll down to the email address section and subscribe. To answer one of your questionsn, just type /leave in the chat window. Look at that character by character.

Take care

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to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

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On 26 Mar 2020, at 21:28, Meet modi wrote:

hello members.
I wont to know about that if i enter in one chat of group how can possible to exit?
and second question any shortcuts key or addons is available so guide me...
Thanks in advance


Re: having trouble with NVDA skipping around on a web page

 

It really helps as well to have an actual page to look at to try to figure out what's going on.   In this case, I imagine that would mean having to be enrolled.

That being said, this is why I encourage screen-reader users to communicate to entities like universalclass.com that they need to have a couple of sample pages of the various types of materials available for practice that anyone can get to before they are actually enrolled in anything.   That should be a basic thing that anyone offering online classes should do.  I've had to yell at several local community colleges and universities about the fact that they have nothing available under their course management systems that is a sandbox for anyone to play in.  It's hard enough getting into college courses to begin with, but you're really behind the 8-ball when you are a screen reader user and have never had any way to practice with sample materials so you don't have to "learn as you go" regarding the structure and style of the system in use.

Folks gotta raise their voices about this issue.  And throwing out mention of the ADA as part of that yelling generally doesn't hurt.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: Please join Zoom meeting in progress

 

On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 10:38 AM, Howard Traxler wrote:
This subject has been up for at least three days.
Only two, but yes, if this meeting were still to be in progress it would be a record holder, probably!!

I hope the main take-away from this topic for meeting organizers is that if you want people to participate you have to tell them exactly what the meeting is about when issuing the invitation.   And that's not just for Zoom meetings.

There's been other good info offered telling folks that you don't need a Zoom account to join a meeting for which you've been issued an invitation and have the link and, I believe, meeting code for.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


Re: Outlook 365 and announcements of table view table" in message list

Gene
 

If turning off announcement of tables doesn't work, you can try using
the speech dictionary. Perhaps trying a phrase like table view and
typing a space in the pronounced as field would stop the speech.

Gene

On 3/27/20, molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi. I have outlook 2016 and it also announces table view table.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Salvador
Domenech Miguel via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 10:24 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook 365 and announcements of table view table" in
message list



Hi,



Maybe could be not posible.



Salva Doménech


Comunidad y soporte a usuarios

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De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > En nombre de Andy B.
Enviado el: viernes, 27 de marzo de 2020 15:06
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Asunto: [nvda] Outlook 365 and announcements of table view table" in
message
list



Hi,



Thanks to everyone’s help, the table headers problem in Outlook is fixed.
Now, I need to figure out how to stop NVDA from saying ‘table view table’
when I end up on the message list. I tried turning off tables in the
document formatting and report descriptions in the object formatting
settings, but no luck






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