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Re: Vocalizer Expressive Driver
Andrea Sherry
When I attempt to select correct synth NVDA tells me "synthesiser error" and fails to load.
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I suspect that it is something on my system. However i'm not quite sure what that could be. Andrea
On 24/03/2020 11:22 am, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!
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Re: Podcast Reader
Very quickly, where can I get this from. From what a friend told me it is no longer availiable. I'm actually asking for this friend. I've ben at work as of late so have not even had the time to look this up on the internet. IN fact what my friend found was 10 years old. Take care all.
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Re: Free JAWS licence that was anounced today
Quentin Christensen
I'm happy to explore the idea of hints or more help for new users if those with ideas on that want to contact me. The open source being insecure argument is being disproved even more with every passing week. Did you know 20% of code created for US government organisations now has to be open source? Or that if you use a Windows computer, it includes open source code? I've recently updated our Corporate and Government page to include more info on that: https://www.nvaccess.org/corporate-government/#OpenSource Re the idea that NVDA is inferior because of the price, perhaps expressing it differently would help? EG it is not that NVDA costs less to make than other programs, or is made with less care and attention. Rather, that in creating a product which actually meets the needs of its audience, we have looked at not only the technical requirements of the software itself, but also the fact that the majority of blind people around the world have less access to education, employment and income, therefore, what good is a solution which meets the technical need but is inaccessible due to the prohibitive financial burden unnecessarily placed on end users? NV Access have pursued a funding model which means we get the majority of our income from corporations like Microsoft, Mozilla, Google, etc, rather than the end user. Therefore, NVDA is the most ethical screen reader available.
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 9:17 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote: On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 04:57 PM, Devin Prater wrote: --
Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: Vocalizer Expressive Driver
Rui Fontes
Hello!
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Download the new driver from: https://www.tiflotecnia.net/Instal/vocalizer_expressive_driver-3.1.1.nvda-addon If necessary, download the voices add-on from: https://vocalizer-nvda.com Best regards, Customer support Tiflotecnia, Lda. Às 22:55 de 23/03/2020, Andrea Sherry escreveu:
Has ceased to function under the latest NVDA beta.
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Re: Free JAWS licence that was anounced today
Gene
NVDA isn’t as user definable as JAWS. It meets the needs of a lot of
people but there are ways JAWS can be tailored, without scripts, using frames,
that can meet the needs of many people in ways NVDA can’t, by allowing those
without scripting knowledge to customize it much more easily and
conveniently than waiting for scripts from someone. Years ago, I was
helping someone who needed to sign into a virtual private network, have certain
specific thihngs read, and have certain things read or repeated with specific
commands. Using frames, I was able to do these things. I don’t have
scripting knowledge and I would think many rehabilitation workers know how to
work with frames who don’t know how to script. And some or perhaps many
users do as well. Until NVDA is user definable in the same way, it will be
at a disadvantage in arenas where customization is necessary that doesn’t
require scripts.
There is no one best or one right screen-reader. If NVDA is to be the
industry standard, it must be more user definable.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Devin Prater
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 3:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Free JAWS licence that was anounced
today At
the AT department I work for, we teach NVDA. We don’t put $1000 licenses, or
even $100 ones, on our clients. Really, I think all that NVDA needs now is good
hints, like JAWS has “tutor messages.” I know, there is an add-on, where one has
to remember to press a keyboard command to open a help message, but if we have
help messages built in, and extendable by other addons to other apps,
configurable right from the welcome dialog, and turned off for people updating
NVDA, NVDA will be even easier to learn. My students have me to teach them, but
not all blind people are so fortunate.
Let’s say that NVDA does become the industry standard. What then?
There are professionals who just dump equipment on blind people’s doorstep and
leave it for blind people to learn. There are blind people who are told to just
go buy a PC and have sighted help to slap NVDA on it, with the blind person
knowing little to nothing about Windows. Sure, blind people may always need
training, but they understand the iPhone quickly, and JAWS too. Can’t we emulate
them at least as far as giving good beginner hints on using controls, or even
basic tips for using Windows, using Tab, Arrows, Windows key, and maybe a link
to Windows keyboard commands? Narrator does some of this, and I could see it,
after its web navigation is tightened up, gaining lots of usage for it.
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Re: Can't install NVDA 2020 beta I
Lino Morales
OK I was successful in downloading nVDA and its running fine now. Thanks Quenton.
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From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 7:08 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Can't install NVDA 2020 beta I
Others have installed it, so I think the file available from https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-1beta1-available-for-testing/ should be ok, but maybe it didn't download properly?
If it's running though (as in it started up without an error about a corrupt file etc) how far is it getting ? Did it play the intro music, show the license agreement, let you start installing it?
If you are installing it and have go to the point where it's installing but doesn't seem to finish, have you acknowledged the UAC dialog - the Windows dialog which warns you the program is about to make changes to your computer (the one you get any time you install anything) - occasionally that pops up behind every other window rather than in front of them, but if you don't acknowledge it, you can't install the program.
Are you running any third party anti-virus program (not Windows defender)? If so, try disabling it while installing NVDA and then reenabling it.
Failing all that, if you look in the %temp% folder, there should be an nvda.log file (for the currently running, or most recently running copy of NVDA) and an nvda-old.log file (for the instance before that). If you could send me whichever one of those was written for the install attempt, I can see if there's anything else there.
Regards
Quentin.
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 5:01 AM Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
-- Quentin Christensen
Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
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Re: Can't install NVDA 2020 beta I
Lino Morales
Hi Quinton. I’ve done all this. I’ll attempt to install again with a fresh download. I got no error. Thanks.
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From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 7:08 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Can't install NVDA 2020 beta I
Others have installed it, so I think the file available from https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-1beta1-available-for-testing/ should be ok, but maybe it didn't download properly?
If it's running though (as in it started up without an error about a corrupt file etc) how far is it getting ? Did it play the intro music, show the license agreement, let you start installing it?
If you are installing it and have go to the point where it's installing but doesn't seem to finish, have you acknowledged the UAC dialog - the Windows dialog which warns you the program is about to make changes to your computer (the one you get any time you install anything) - occasionally that pops up behind every other window rather than in front of them, but if you don't acknowledge it, you can't install the program.
Are you running any third party anti-virus program (not Windows defender)? If so, try disabling it while installing NVDA and then reenabling it.
Failing all that, if you look in the %temp% folder, there should be an nvda.log file (for the currently running, or most recently running copy of NVDA) and an nvda-old.log file (for the instance before that). If you could send me whichever one of those was written for the install attempt, I can see if there's anything else there.
Regards
Quentin.
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 5:01 AM Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
-- Quentin Christensen
Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
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Re: Can't install NVDA 2020 beta I
Lino Morales
Hi Quinton. I’ve done all this. I’ll attempt to install again with a fresh download. I got no error. Thanks.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 7:08 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Can't install NVDA 2020 beta I
Others have installed it, so I think the file available from https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-1beta1-available-for-testing/ should be ok, but maybe it didn't download properly?
If it's running though (as in it started up without an error about a corrupt file etc) how far is it getting ? Did it play the intro music, show the license agreement, let you start installing it?
If you are installing it and have go to the point where it's installing but doesn't seem to finish, have you acknowledged the UAC dialog - the Windows dialog which warns you the program is about to make changes to your computer (the one you get any time you install anything) - occasionally that pops up behind every other window rather than in front of them, but if you don't acknowledge it, you can't install the program.
Are you running any third party anti-virus program (not Windows defender)? If so, try disabling it while installing NVDA and then reenabling it.
Failing all that, if you look in the %temp% folder, there should be an nvda.log file (for the currently running, or most recently running copy of NVDA) and an nvda-old.log file (for the instance before that). If you could send me whichever one of those was written for the install attempt, I can see if there's anything else there.
Regards
Quentin.
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 5:01 AM Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
-- Quentin Christensen
Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
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Re: Can't install NVDA 2020 beta I
Quentin Christensen
Others have installed it, so I think the file available from
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-1beta1-available-for-testing/ should be ok, but maybe it didn't download properly? If it's running though (as in it started up without an error about a corrupt file etc) how far is it getting ? Did it play the intro music, show the license agreement, let you start installing it? If you are installing it and have go to the point where it's installing but doesn't seem to finish, have you acknowledged the UAC dialog - the Windows dialog which warns you the program is about to make changes to your computer (the one you get any time you install anything) - occasionally that pops up behind every other window rather than in front of them, but if you don't acknowledge it, you can't install the program. Are you running any third party anti-virus program (not Windows defender)? If so, try disabling it while installing NVDA and then reenabling it. Failing all that, if you look in the %temp% folder, there should be an nvda.log file (for the currently running, or most recently running copy of NVDA) and an nvda-old.log file (for the instance before that). If you could send me whichever one of those was written for the install attempt, I can see if there's anything else there. Regards Quentin.
On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 5:01 AM Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
--
Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Vocalizer Expressive Driver
Andrea Sherry
Has ceased to function under the latest NVDA beta.
Has anyone else had this experience? Andrea
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Re: Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support requests: no more, period
Hi, All my add-ons (at least ones I’m maintaining) will support Windows 7 as long as NVDA supports it. Two exceptions: Enhanced Touch Gestures as it does not support anything earlier than Windows 8.1, and Windows 10 App Essentials which is tied to support lifecycle for consumers from Microsoft for each feature update; these two add-ons include routines to reject installation on Windows 7 systems. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 04:28 PM, Gene wrote:
I agree. But the time will come, probably later rather than sooner, when a necessary change to NVDA or a given add-on breaks backward compatibility with Windows 7 as a direct effect. And depending on when that happens to occur it could be very difficult to try to justify jumping through any hoops for maintaining backward compatibility. This pattern has occurred over and over again over the decades. Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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Re: Free JAWS licence that was anounced today
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 04:57 PM, Devin Prater wrote:
but they understand the iPhone quickly, and JAWS tooI disagree with this statement, particularly with regard to JAWS. I've been tutoring for years for JAWS, and I have yet to have a client understand it quickly, and that's even for folks who were very sophisticated Windows users prior to losing their site. I had one client (and, yes, I know that one is not a valid sample) who could use the iPhone very proficiently, including VoiceOver, but who could never master the rotor (and not secondary to any motor issues). After decades in IT one of the claims, about anything technology-related, that instantly makes me cringe is, "It's intuitive." There is no such thing as a very highly featured system that is intuitive in any meaningful sense of that word. Some are easier than others to get the hang of the basics, but all require intensive practice to master even the subset of non-basic commands a given user might use. Microsoft Word is the perfect example of that. It's dirt simple to create a dirt simple document, but when you start going beyond that, things get complicated and you can end up "in the weeds" with unbelievable speed if you try to guess what you need to do. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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Re: Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support requests: no more, period
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 04:28 PM, Gene wrote:
Whether and for how long it is supported, I suspect that Windows 7 is enough like Windows 10 that add-ons and NVDA will continue to work, at least for quite a while.I agree. But the time will come, probably later rather than sooner, when a necessary change to NVDA or a given add-on breaks backward compatibility with Windows 7 as a direct effect. And depending on when that happens to occur it could be very difficult to try to justify jumping through any hoops for maintaining backward compatibility. This pattern has occurred over and over again over the decades. To quote the song lyric, "History keeps repeating itself." -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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Re: Free JAWS licence that was anounced today
Devin Prater
At the AT department I work for, we teach NVDA. We don’t put $1000 licenses, or even $100 ones, on our clients. Really, I think all that NVDA needs now is good hints, like JAWS has “tutor messages.” I know, there is an add-on, where one has to remember to press a keyboard command to open a help message, but if we have help messages built in, and extendable by other addons to other apps, configurable right from the welcome dialog, and turned off for people updating NVDA, NVDA will be even easier to learn. My students have me to teach them, but not all blind people are so fortunate.
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Let’s say that NVDA does become the industry standard. What then? There are professionals who just dump equipment on blind people’s doorstep and leave it for blind people to learn. There are blind people who are told to just go buy a PC and have sighted help to slap NVDA on it, with the blind person knowing little to nothing about Windows. Sure, blind people may always need training, but they understand the iPhone quickly, and JAWS too. Can’t we emulate them at least as far as giving good beginner hints on using controls, or even basic tips for using Windows, using Tab, Arrows, Windows key, and maybe a link to Windows keyboard commands? Narrator does some of this, and I could see it, after its web navigation is tightened up, gaining lots of usage for it.
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Re: Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support requests: no more, period
Hi, Believe it or not, someone just published an article noting that there is already a zero-day exploit targeting unpatched Windows systems, including, unfortunately, Windows 7. This zero-day exploit relates to font handling by Adobe Font Manager, and I expect Microsoft to issue a patch to supported Windows releases; in case of Windows 7, no consumer-level patch will be issued through Windows Update unless it becomes too urgent to do so. With that in mind, as far as public relations goes, Windows 7 is unsupported. Microsoft does sell extended security updates (ESU’s) for Windows 7 but only to businesses. As for NVDA dropping support for Windows 7 and Server 2008 R2, not for a while unless it becomes hard to justify Windows 7 support (one of my upcoming summer projects will look into what it takes to support Windows 8.1 and higher and potential impact for users). Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 1:29 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support requests: no more, period
Joseph and all
You and others may want to comment, but I doubt that Windows 7 will be a problem. Whether and for how long it is supported, I suspect that Windows 7 is enough like Windows 10 that add-ons and NVDA will continue to work, at least for quite a while. Of course, there are apps that are not usable in Windows 7 and of course attachments related to them won’t be usable. But it is my impression that Windows 7 is much more like Windows 10 than XP was to Windows 7 and higher.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Joseph Lee Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 12:58 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support requests: no more, period
Hi, The exact statements from NV Access and developers back then were that using XP is now a security risk for many, and that people can use NVDA 2017.3 and old add-ons should they need to use XP and friends. As for my statement back then, it referred to my own add-ons. The statement I wrote below covers cases where a user would write to developers asking us to make certain new features available for old releases, which cannot be done, particularly now that we have fully moved onto Python 3. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arlene
Hi, I don’t remember the time you and NVDA developers did say xp support was no longer going to work for users who still want to continue using xp. You did say maybe 2 or 3 years ago you were going to no longer support xp and vista. I think windows 7 is next.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Joseph Lee
Hello NVDA users and add-on developers,
First, I would like to reiterate how important it is that everyone listen to advice from reputable sources regarding COVID-19, including public health officials recommending folks to exercise social distancing for a while. Even if you do not feel sick, please help others by washing hands, practice social distancing, and monitor the situation regarding the pandemic and community spread. And since the NVDA community is a global movement, please support each other.
Onto the matter at hand: for several days I have received requests about NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support. Requests have included making add-ons compatible with Windows XP again, compatibility issues, and backporting newer NVDA bug fixes and features to users of NVDA 2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.
At the moment there is no community guidance on support for Windows XP, with many people asking others to upgrade to newer Windows releases. But as an individual add-on author and a contributor to NVDA screen reader project, I would like to take this time to make the following personal announcement:
Effective April 15, 2020, if you ask me to do one or more of the following for Windows XP users, the answer you will get is, “sorry, no more, period.” These include:
Most importantly, I will flatly say “no” if you ask me privately to ask NV Access and/or add-on developers about Windows XP support. Many features introduced in newer NVDA releases cannot be backported for various reasons, including risk of crashing NVDA (grammar error announcement, for example), incompatibility with Python 2 (broader Unicode support, for example), features that will not work properly with XP (screen curtain, for example), support for apps no longer recommended for wider use (outlook Express, for example), and broad changes that alters how add-ons work (speech refactor and multi-category settings dialog, for example). Several add-on authors have indicated reluctance to support XP, and in case of add-ons I’m either maintaining or have passed onto the community, none of them support NVDA 2019.2.1 or earlier, let alone Windows XP and friends.
My personal statement above will not be in effect until April so that you can help others going through COVID-19 and for my statement as an individual developer to sink in. Note that I’m not speaking on behalf of other developers – others have their own policies regarding support for Windows XP. NV Access does provide a download link for NVDA 2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.
I know my statement is a huge blow to many of you. As much as I wanted folks to understand that end of support means end of support, and I understand that many of you cannot afford newer equipment and software releases (including moving to newer Windows releases), I felt it is time to make a bold statement and say “no” to Windows XP support. In the past, I did note on various NVDA forums that my add-ons will not and does not support Windows XP, but didn’t announce a statement like this then, hoping that folks will understand the reality at last. But alas, it is time to officially close the doors to Windows XP support from my end – once again, this is an individual developer saying this, not on behalf of the community at large, knowing that others will make statements on their own.
Thank you for understanding. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: Free JAWS licence that was anounced today
On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 04:24 PM, Jesse Farquharson wrote:
an opensource program, means that you can have someone who is qualified come in to externally audit the software and say, "yes, this program is absolutely safe," if you are inclined to do so.Yep, and not just for NVDA. It seems that slowly, but surely, many IT professionals are getting "the powers that be" to recognize this. There is far less resistance to open source software in the business market than there once was. But since that resistance started out as absolute, it's still nowhere close to the degree of acceptance that should prevail. That being said, there are many ways that current security suites use to analyze closed source code to see if it's been compromised. There is good reason, very good reason, to believe that commercial software makers are not going to rob their customers (of passwords or cash, anyway - data is another matter altogether). -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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Re: PodCast Reader
Andrea Sherry
Thanks
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On 23/03/2020 7:47 pm, Jacob Kruger wrote:
This might not be specifically relevant to usage with NVDA, but, it's specifically accessible:
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Re: Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support requests: no more, period
Gene
Joseph and all
You and others may want to comment, but I doubt that Windows 7 will be a
problem. Whether and for how long it is supported, I suspect that Windows
7 is enough like Windows 10 that add-ons and NVDA will continue to work, at
least for quite a while. Of course, there are apps that are not usable in
Windows 7 and of course attachments related to them won’t be usable. But
it is my impression that Windows 7 is much more like Windows 10 than XP was to
Windows 7 and higher.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From:
Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Statement from Joseph Lee regarding NVDA add-ons
and Windows XP support requests: no more, period Hi, The exact statements from NV Access and developers back then were that using XP is now a security risk for many, and that people can use NVDA 2017.3 and old add-ons should they need to use XP and friends. As for my statement back then, it referred to my own add-ons. The statement I wrote below covers cases where a user would write to developers asking us to make certain new features available for old releases, which cannot be done, particularly now that we have fully moved onto Python 3. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Arlene
Hi, I don’t remember the time you and NVDA developers did say xp support was no longer going to work for users who still want to continue using xp. You did say maybe 2 or 3 years ago you were going to no longer support xp and vista. I think windows 7 is next.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Joseph Lee
Hello NVDA users and add-on developers,
First, I would like to reiterate how important it is that everyone listen to advice from reputable sources regarding COVID-19, including public health officials recommending folks to exercise social distancing for a while. Even if you do not feel sick, please help others by washing hands, practice social distancing, and monitor the situation regarding the pandemic and community spread. And since the NVDA community is a global movement, please support each other.
Onto the matter at hand: for several days I have received requests about NVDA add-ons and Windows XP support. Requests have included making add-ons compatible with Windows XP again, compatibility issues, and backporting newer NVDA bug fixes and features to users of NVDA 2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.
At the moment there is no community guidance on support for Windows XP, with many people asking others to upgrade to newer Windows releases. But as an individual add-on author and a contributor to NVDA screen reader project, I would like to take this time to make the following personal announcement:
Effective April 15, 2020, if you ask me to do one or more of the following for Windows XP users, the answer you will get is, “sorry, no more, period.” These include:
Most importantly, I will flatly say “no” if you ask me privately to ask NV Access and/or add-on developers about Windows XP support. Many features introduced in newer NVDA releases cannot be backported for various reasons, including risk of crashing NVDA (grammar error announcement, for example), incompatibility with Python 2 (broader Unicode support, for example), features that will not work properly with XP (screen curtain, for example), support for apps no longer recommended for wider use (outlook Express, for example), and broad changes that alters how add-ons work (speech refactor and multi-category settings dialog, for example). Several add-on authors have indicated reluctance to support XP, and in case of add-ons I’m either maintaining or have passed onto the community, none of them support NVDA 2019.2.1 or earlier, let alone Windows XP and friends.
My personal statement above will not be in effect until April so that you can help others going through COVID-19 and for my statement as an individual developer to sink in. Note that I’m not speaking on behalf of other developers – others have their own policies regarding support for Windows XP. NV Access does provide a download link for NVDA 2017.3, the last version compatible with Windows XP.
I know my statement is a huge blow to many of you. As much as I wanted folks to understand that end of support means end of support, and I understand that many of you cannot afford newer equipment and software releases (including moving to newer Windows releases), I felt it is time to make a bold statement and say “no” to Windows XP support. In the past, I did note on various NVDA forums that my add-ons will not and does not support Windows XP, but didn’t announce a statement like this then, hoping that folks will understand the reality at last. But alas, it is time to officially close the doors to Windows XP support from my end – once again, this is an individual developer saying this, not on behalf of the community at large, knowing that others will make statements on their own.
Thank you for understanding. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: Free JAWS licence that was anounced today
Jesse Farquharson
On 3/23/2020 2:49 PM, Austin Pinto wrote:
also many people have told me that nvda is not as secure as jaws whichJAWS is a closed source program, just like, for instance, Microsoft Word or Outlook. That means that you can't crack them open and see what they're doing, and as such, for all you know you could be installing key loggers on your computer. And yet, schools all over the world use both programs. JAWS could be a simple screenreader, but as I said, it's closed source. So the security risks are unknown. NVDA, being an opensource program, means that you can have someone who is qualified come in to externally audit the software and say, "yes, this program is absolutely safe," if you are inclined to do so. There are only real risks when you install addons from unknown sources, as all of those which are on the community addons page have been verified as safe by the rest of the community. So really, which is the bigger risk here? On 3/23/20, Sky Mundell <skyt@shaw.ca> wrote:Correct! I totally get your point and I agree with you 100%.
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Re: Q Read alternative
hurrikennyandopo ...
Hi Isaac
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Will contact you shortly off list. Through the website? or I will see if it is in the header for it. Just downloaded the latest 2020 beta 1 for a sus and see if any problems. I will test with the beta unless you want it with the stable for the moment? Till any problems are sorted? if any. Gene nz
On 23/03/2020 10:38 pm, Isaac Porat wrote:
Hi Gene
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