From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 2:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2020.1 beta 1 now available for testing

A great many add-ons, like the NVDA core code itself, are managed via
GitHub.  And that's whether they're officially vetted add-ons or not.

There are three add-ons for Eclipse, two of which have been updated this
year.  See: https://github.com/search?q=Eclipse+NVDA&;type=

Simply going to GitHub and entering NVDA plus one other word specific to the
add-on in question generally zeros in on what's being looked for.
--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.*

~ Madonna

skype does not support windows xp and using newer windows is not
possible for me now.

On 3/23/20, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:

what is rong with your windows
the latest desktop skype supports windows 10

----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA addon development beginner

thanks God, one of the developers answers and helps me very kind.
but with other developers, i have not method for contacting them
directly and one of them did not answer me!
i dont have social medias except skype and email,
and unfortunately skype does not support my windows since march of 2019!

On 3/23/20, zahra via Groups.Io <nasrinkhaksar3=gmail.com@groups.io>
wrote:

hi brian.
thanks for your reply.
i wished to contact nvda developers directly.
i subscribed to github in previous years, and sent tens of comments
and suggestions, and said my views about some of the reported issues.
but i wish to find a solution to contact nvda developers directly,
which i did not find!
and from one of the developers, which i contacted him directly,
unfortunately did not recieve a reply!

even if i use newer versions, i cant use newer versions of nvda for
several reasons.
one of the reasons is lack of american english US with my native
language (persian), which is removed in nvda 2017.4 and later!
i needed two or three fixes in newer versions only.
unless if someone send me a workaround.

thanks for your help, God bless you!

On 3/22/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:

zahra,

I gave the direct link to the nvda-devel home page on Groups.io in my
last
message. Those pages (for any given group) always include the Group
Email
Addresses section with the pertinent subscribe, unsubscribe, etc.,
addresses.

Also, if you look at the group description in my prior message, and
take
a
look at the more detailed one on the actual group page, it is made
abundantly clear that this group is not meant for end-user support or
suggestions. In fact, the main page description ends with, "Please
note
this is not a general user support list."

I created a tutorial last month: Creating a Github Account (
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&;id=1TJx5cRPsCvDAXF0FE0hv7Jkow7kj7FOY
) , which I'd suggest you, or anyone interested with direct
communication
with the NVDA team, have a look at. It is my intention to create
additional
tutorials as individuals wish to do specific things under GitHub.

By the way, I have seen no indication from you that you have finally
moved
on from Windows XP. If that is the case you really cannot use any
currently
supported version of NVDA and any feature changes will remain
unavailable
to
you until you move to Windows 8 (which I do not recommend) or Windows
10.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.*

~ Madonna

--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

what is rong with your windows
the latest desktop skype supports windows 10

----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA addon development beginner

thanks God, one of the developers answers and helps me very kind.
but with other developers, i have not method for contacting them
directly and one of them did not answer me!
i dont have social medias except skype and email,
and unfortunately skype does not support my windows since march of 2019!

On 3/23/20, zahra via Groups.Io <nasrinkhaksar3=gmail.com@groups.io>
wrote:

hi brian.
thanks for your reply.
i wished to contact nvda developers directly.
i subscribed to github in previous years, and sent tens of comments
and suggestions, and said my views about some of the reported issues.
but i wish to find a solution to contact nvda developers directly,
which i did not find!
and from one of the developers, which i contacted him directly,
unfortunately did not recieve a reply!

even if i use newer versions, i cant use newer versions of nvda for
several reasons.
one of the reasons is lack of american english US with my native
language (persian), which is removed in nvda 2017.4 and later!
i needed two or three fixes in newer versions only.
unless if someone send me a workaround.

thanks for your help, God bless you!

On 3/22/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:

zahra,

I gave the direct link to the nvda-devel home page on Groups.io in my
last
message. Those pages (for any given group) always include the Group
Email
Addresses section with the pertinent subscribe, unsubscribe, etc.,
addresses.

Also, if you look at the group description in my prior message, and
take
a
look at the more detailed one on the actual group page, it is made
abundantly clear that this group is not meant for end-user support or
suggestions. In fact, the main page description ends with, "Please
note
this is not a general user support list."

I created a tutorial last month: Creating a Github Account (
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&;id=1TJx5cRPsCvDAXF0FE0hv7Jkow7kj7FOY
) , which I'd suggest you, or anyone interested with direct
communication
with the NVDA team, have a look at. It is my intention to create
additional
tutorials as individuals wish to do specific things under GitHub.

By the way, I have seen no indication from you that you have finally
moved
on from Windows XP. If that is the case you really cannot use any
currently
supported version of NVDA and any feature changes will remain
unavailable
to
you until you move to Windows 8 (which I do not recommend) or Windows
10.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.*

~ Madonna

--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

Hello:

I have this issue too.  No matter how many times I go into the ease of use settings and turn off those very annoying beeps, they just keep coming back again.  I always click on apply when I finish turning them off but they come back anyway.  If anyone figures out how to fix this issue, my sensitive ears and headaches will appreciate it. 

Sandra Johnson

SLJohnson25@...

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Hi Roger

It sounds like you have the Ease of Access setting called “Toggle keys” switched on.  This causes Caps lock, Num lock and Scroll lock to emit a high pitched beep when pressed.  It has no effect on the functionality of NVDA at all and is just to reassure the user that they have pressed one of the keys named previously.

    

Cheers

Chris 

 

From: Roger Stewart
Sent: 22 March 2020 20:48
To: NVDA List
Subject: [nvda] Possible bug found

 

I may have found a minor bug in latest NVDA.  I have the extended insert

key (also known as the insert key on the "six pack" keys set as the nvda

modifier key.  At first, I had thought it had gotten unset or something

as when I press this key, I get no beep while I do get the beep when I

press caps lock.  However, the key is working as the NVDA modifier key

correctly.  Is this normal to have a beep for caps lock as the nvda

modifier but no beep for the extended insert key?  I had thought both

keys would beep for a single press to let you know it is the nvda key

but they will do their normal functions if pressed twice quickly.  If

there isn't supposed to be the beep on the extended insert key, then

this is normal but I just wanted to ask about this as I'm pretty sure I

have heard a beep for that key in earlier versions of nvda.

 

 

Roger

 

 

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Quentin Christensen

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 12:20 AM

Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2020.1 beta 1 now available for testing

Hi everyone,

NVDA 2020.1 beta 1 is now available for testing. Although a smaller release than 2019.3, it still contains some very important fixes, features and support for more Braille displays than ever. Find out all about what's new and download the beta from: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-1beta1-available-for-testing/

Kind regards

QUentin.

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Web: www.nvaccess.org 

Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess

----- Original Message -----

From: Quentin Christensen

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Monday, March 23, 2020 12:20 AM

Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2020.1 beta 1 now available for testing

Hi everyone,

NVDA 2020.1 beta 1 is now available for testing. Although a smaller release than 2019.3, it still contains some very important fixes, features and support for more Braille displays than ever. Find out all about what's new and download the beta from: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2020-1beta1-available-for-testing/

Kind regards

QUentin.

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Web: www.nvaccess.org 

Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess

thanks God, one of the developers answers and helps me very kind.
but with other developers, i have not method for contacting them
directly and one of them did not answer me!
i dont have social medias except skype and email,
and unfortunately skype does not support my windows since march of 2019!

On 3/23/20, zahra via Groups.Io <nasrinkhaksar3=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:

hi brian.
thanks for your reply.
i wished to contact nvda developers directly.
i subscribed to github in previous years, and sent tens of comments
and suggestions, and said my views about some of the reported issues.
but i wish to find a solution to contact nvda developers directly,
which i did not find!
and from one of the developers, which i contacted him directly,
unfortunately did not recieve a reply!

even if i use newer versions, i cant use newer versions of nvda for
several reasons.
one of the reasons is lack of american english US with my native
language (persian), which is removed in nvda 2017.4 and later!
i needed two or three fixes in newer versions only.
unless if someone send me a workaround.

thanks for your help, God bless you!

On 3/22/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:

zahra,

I gave the direct link to the nvda-devel home page on Groups.io in my
last
message. Those pages (for any given group) always include the Group
Email
Addresses section with the pertinent subscribe, unsubscribe, etc.,
addresses.

Also, if you look at the group description in my prior message, and take
a
look at the more detailed one on the actual group page, it is made
abundantly clear that this group is not meant for end-user support or
suggestions. In fact, the main page description ends with, "Please note
this is not a general user support list."

I created a tutorial last month: Creating a Github Account (
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&;id=1TJx5cRPsCvDAXF0FE0hv7Jkow7kj7FOY
) , which I'd suggest you, or anyone interested with direct communication
with the NVDA team, have a look at. It is my intention to create
additional
tutorials as individuals wish to do specific things under GitHub.

By the way, I have seen no indication from you that you have finally
moved
on from Windows XP. If that is the case you really cannot use any
currently
supported version of NVDA and any feature changes will remain unavailable
to
you until you move to Windows 8 (which I do not recommend) or Windows 10.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.*

~ Madonna

--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

Hi Roger

It sounds like you have the Ease of Access setting called “Toggle keys” switched on.  This causes Caps lock, Num lock and Scroll lock to emit a high pitched beep when pressed.  It has no effect on the functionality of NVDA at all and is just to reassure the user that they have pressed one of the keys named previously.

    

Cheers

Chris 

 

From: Roger Stewart
Sent: 22 March 2020 20:48
To: NVDA List
Subject: [nvda] Possible bug found

 

I may have found a minor bug in latest NVDA.  I have the extended insert

key (also known as the insert key on the "six pack" keys set as the nvda

modifier key.  At first, I had thought it had gotten unset or something

as when I press this key, I get no beep while I do get the beep when I

press caps lock.  However, the key is working as the NVDA modifier key

correctly.  Is this normal to have a beep for caps lock as the nvda

modifier but no beep for the extended insert key?  I had thought both

keys would beep for a single press to let you know it is the nvda key

but they will do their normal functions if pressed twice quickly.  If

there isn't supposed to be the beep on the extended insert key, then

this is normal but I just wanted to ask about this as I'm pretty sure I

have heard a beep for that key in earlier versions of nvda.

 

 

Roger

 

 

 

 

 

Hello Wally,

With all due respect, many people still use Window-Eyes.  Some people

with limited needs do not need any further advancements. Furthermore,

this attitude of yours would also eliminate the discussion of such

programs widely used by the blind because  of their accessibility such

as Windows Live Mail and Udora mail.  These programs are also not being

developed any more but they are quite serviceable for the needs of many

people.

On 3/22/2020 6:04 AM, Marisane Moruthanyana wrote:

> Hi gurus

> 

> This is Wally from SA.

> 

> I am often confused by people still referring others to what is no longer there.

> 

> When one asks for assistance, one expects you, gurus to assist in

> terms of what we now have.

> 

> I would like to request the administrators of these lists to mute

> those people who continuously mislead us.

> 

> We do not have Window Eyes any longer so, according to me assisting

> someone using the mentality of ignoring change, does not help the

> blind community.

> 

> Census, why is this topic allowed here? Is it about technology?

> 

> Let these lists be used in context.

> 

> I am not angry, but concerned.

> 

> We ask what is relevant in these mailing lists and we are

> unfortunately not responded to due to unnecessary conversations that

> take place on the lists.

> 

> Let us respect the lists for purposes of learning and self-enhancement.

> 

> The lists are meant for us to learn and effectively use technology and

> not for anything else.

> 

> Thanking you in advance for your understanding.

> 

> Wally Marisane: SA

> 

>

> 

> 

--

They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.

They ask: "How Happy are You?"

I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

hi brian.
thanks for your reply.
i wished to contact nvda developers directly.
i subscribed to github in previous years, and sent tens of comments
and suggestions, and said my views about some of the reported issues.
but i wish to find a solution to contact nvda developers directly,
which i did not find!
and from one of the developers, which i contacted him directly,
unfortunately did not recieve a reply!

even if i use newer versions, i cant use newer versions of nvda for
several reasons.
one of the reasons is lack of american english US with my native
language (persian), which is removed in nvda 2017.4 and later!
i needed two or three fixes in newer versions only.
unless if someone send me a workaround.

thanks for your help, God bless you!

On 3/22/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:

zahra,

I gave the direct link to the nvda-devel home page on Groups.io in my
last
message. Those pages (for any given group) always include the Group
Email
Addresses section with the pertinent subscribe, unsubscribe, etc.,
addresses.

Also, if you look at the group description in my prior message, and take
a
look at the more detailed one on the actual group page, it is made
abundantly clear that this group is not meant for end-user support or
suggestions. In fact, the main page description ends with, "Please note
this is not a general user support list."

I created a tutorial last month: Creating a Github Account (
https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download&;id=1TJx5cRPsCvDAXF0FE0hv7Jkow7kj7FOY
) , which I'd suggest you, or anyone interested with direct communication
with the NVDA team, have a look at. It is my intention to create
additional
tutorials as individuals wish to do specific things under GitHub.

By the way, I have seen no indication from you that you have finally
moved
on from Windows XP. If that is the case you really cannot use any
currently
supported version of NVDA and any feature changes will remain unavailable
to
you until you move to Windows 8 (which I do not recommend) or Windows 10.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.*

~ Madonna

--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali