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Re: Entering time values on youtube website

Sarah k Alawami
 

I have many a story where I can trigger my boyfriends assistant when I'm on the phone. He has also triggered mine. We also played with someone's ALady over twitch this way. There was a podcast and commercial where everyone's assistances were being triggered when someone said the magic phrase. My siri was triggered by my student over skype once, and my boyfriend triggered my pixel, siri, bixby, and mini, all while over the phone. I think his screen reader triggered google and bixby once, I think I was on the phone for that one.

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On 10 Sep 2020, at 0:43, Gene wrote:

Has anyone had any digital assistant triggered by having a screen-reader say its name? I don't recall seeing any messages on the lists I follow about this. And I have a friend with an Echo who, at times when we talk and say the name of the assistant has it try to do something or say she can't find something, but only when she says the name. We did an experiment and when I, on her speaker phone, say the name, there is no response.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 11:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Entering time values on youtube website

It's a "wow in the world" reference. If anyone is interested just consult zootle for more.

Glad the tip helped. You can do so much with that url. I even know someone who changed the format, time, speed I think. I'm not really sure what else.

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Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

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On 9 Sep 2020, at 15:38, JM Casey wrote:

Thank you Sarah. Definitely more than apparent under youtube’s hood. Also zootle made me chuckle. And I’m weird so I now had to check to see if that’s a website. Nope..ah well!

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: September 8, 2020 7:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Entering time values on youtube website

You can actually modify the URL with I think something like t=600 for 600 seconds. If you know what you are doing, you can modify that uRL to do a lot. You will have to consult our best friend zootle (I changed the name so as not to trigger anyone's homes) and find the exact codes.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 8 Sep 2020, at 13:46, JM Casey wrote:

Hello everyone. Using NVDA 2020.2, and, in this case, Chrome, my favourite browser for a ccessing youtube as it is extremely responsive to the keyboard commands.

Recently I’ve come to use youtube more than usual, and have finally taken a good amount of time to figure out how the interface actually works, how to navigate channels and the player, etc. I’ve come across some recordings that are several hours long. A cool thing is that if I exit the site for whatever reason and then come back to it, even well after the browser session is closed, my place is usually “remembered” by youtube. However, I’d like to be able to specify the time at which to start playing in presentations that are sometimes 6+ hours long. I am pretty sure this can be done, but I’m having trouble figuring out where the cursor should be positioned to enter in the vlue. I have tried switching browse mode off and being in the position where the current elapsed time fo the recording is shown, but this doesn’t seem to do the trick. I believe I understand what the format should be (hours:minutes:seconds).

Any tips?

Thanks!


Re: Update on previously mentioned issue with single-letternavigation

Gene
 

I read the message again and I see it discusses the desktop and not quick navigation commands in browse mode. I also checked and I see that when moving by letter on the desktop, letters are announced. So, somehow, that may be related to the problem.

I think of single letter navigation as what is used as quick navigation commands on web pages and I didn't realize the message was talking about the desktop. When navigating on the desktop or other lists, the term usually used is first letter navigation, and not seeing it and seeing the other caused me to misread the message.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Luke Davis
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 7:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Update on previously mentioned issue with single-letternavigation

Quentin, Gene, et al

I will point out, that in her original message, she did mention the desktop.

That suggests to me that she is using the letters in question to jump to icons
on the desktop. Nothing was said about browse mode shortcuts in her message,
although all commenters so far seem to have taken it that way.

Luke


Re: Update on previously mentioned issue with single-letternavigation

Luke Davis
 

Quentin, Gene, et al

I will point out, that in her original message, she did mention the desktop.

That suggests to me that she is using the letters in question to jump to icons on the desktop. Nothing was said about browse mode shortcuts in her message, although all commenters so far seem to have taken it that way.

Luke


Re: Over verbosity in the Winamp plugin

Gene
 

I would think they should both be separately controled as to whether they speak. Or perhaps in the case of track announcement, perhaps I should say, whether it is on or off since I don't know which is a better way to control the behavior or if it matters.
Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Damien Garwood
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 5:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Over verbosity in the Winamp plugin

Hi Gene,
There was a suggestion regarding this in the NVDA addons group a few
months ago, I haven't seen an update since so looks like it probably is
down to me.
Not to worry though, since another thing I hoped to add was automatic
track change announcement (so that when a new track started playing it
would tell you what it was). I'm guessing this would be a totally
separate setting, since you might want the function announcements off
but track announcements on.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 10/09/2020 11:04 am, Gene wrote:
Maybe, but it may be too much work for a small change from a technical standpoint. Perhaps someone else who regularly works with the current code could very quickly and easily make the change.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Damien Garwood
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 4:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Over verbosity in the Winamp plugin

Hi Gene,
Agreed, when I made that particular update (back in the good old Python
2 days!), I had a few other things in mind that I wanted to do with it,
including a setting to toggle the verbosity.
I guess that's as good an excuse as any to get my rusty old brain to at
least try and make friends with the Python 3 books and the rather hazy
and labyrinthic NVDA development documentation and see if I can get an
update released at some point.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 10/09/2020 09:40 am, Gene wrote:
I could have written this as a direct comment to the authors of the plugin, but it may be better to get different opinions here so the authors may have a better sense of what people want, to the extent that the comments may or may not be representative.

I am asking that certain speech be taken out of the plugin or that it be off by default. Specifically, the announcement of play, stop, ;paused and unpaused. There are times when you don't need speech to tell you something. The action is immediately evident in what a program does and at times, the speech is intrusive and annoying. When listening to audio, self-evident announcements such as I mentioned above are, to me intrusive and annoying. I don't object to the rest of the speech. Hering on and off or centered is useful to confirm that a command has been carried out. It isn't nearly as obvious without speech, for example, if you turn repeat on, you wont know it is on until the file repeats.

Gene







Re: Over verbosity in the Winamp plugin

Damien Garwood <damien@...>
 

Hi Gene,
There was a suggestion regarding this in the NVDA addons group a few months ago, I haven't seen an update since so looks like it probably is down to me.
Not to worry though, since another thing I hoped to add was automatic track change announcement (so that when a new track started playing it would tell you what it was). I'm guessing this would be a totally separate setting, since you might want the function announcements off but track announcements on.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 10/09/2020 11:04 am, Gene wrote:
Maybe, but it may be too much work for a small change from a technical standpoint.  Perhaps someone else who regularly works with the current code could very quickly and easily make the change.
Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Damien Garwood
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 4:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Over verbosity in the Winamp plugin
Hi Gene,
Agreed, when I made that particular update (back in the good old Python
2 days!), I had a few other things in mind that I wanted to do with it,
including a setting to toggle the verbosity.
I guess that's as good an excuse as any to get my rusty old brain to at
least try and make friends with the Python 3 books and the rather hazy
and labyrinthic NVDA development documentation and see if I can get an
update released at some point.
Cheers,
Damien.
On 10/09/2020 09:40 am, Gene wrote:
I could have written this as a direct comment to the authors of the plugin, but it may be better to get different opinions here so the authors may have a better sense of what people want, to the extent that the comments may or may not be representative.

I am asking that certain speech be taken out of the plugin or that it be off by default.  Specifically, the announcement of play, stop, ;paused and unpaused.  There are times when you don't need speech to tell you something. The action is immediately evident in what a program does and at times, the speech is intrusive and annoying.  When listening to audio, self-evident announcements such as I mentioned above are, to me intrusive and annoying. I don't object to the rest of the speech.  Hering on and off or centered is useful to confirm that a command has been carried out.  It isn't nearly as obvious without speech, for example, if you turn repeat on, you wont know it is on until the file repeats.

Gene



Re: Update on previously mentioned issue with single-letternavigation

Quentin Christensen
 

Yes I just tried to work out the same thing - the only thing I can think is the question I asked previously - are you using any add-ons?  Maybe Mozilla app enhancements or something else which affects browsers?


On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 7:36 PM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I just checked this.  NVDA is set not to announce quick navigation keys when
in browse mode.  I tried many, h for move by heading, b for button, x for
check box and r for radio button.  None were spoken.

However, in the case of the person with the problem, since turning off speak
typed carachters stopped the lag, it raises the question as to whether in
her case, something is being generated that shouldn't be.  I would think a
log would be important.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Mullins
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 4:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Update on previously mentioned issue with
single-letternavigation



                Hi

With “Speak Typed Characters” set to on NVDA has to announce the letter
pressed first then the name of the object to which

focus has moved and the delay between the 2 announcements is understandable
as it makes them distinct.  The delay between the 2 announcements is
arguably a little longer than necessary but as to whether this could be
shortened programmatically or even made dynamically adjustable is something
only the developers would know.



Cheers

Chris





From: Sharni-Lee Ward
Sent: 10 September 2020 03:20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Update on previously mentioned issue with
single-letternavigation





I stated back when I first updated to the latest version of NVDA that I

was getting a delayed response when using single-letter navigation,

where I would press the key and would have to wait half a second to hear

the cursor's new position. I turned off "Speak Typed Characters" for an

unrelated reason this morning, and when using single-letter navigation

on the desktop, the response was immediate.


















--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Over verbosity in the Winamp plugin

Gene
 

Maybe, but it may be too much work for a small change from a technical standpoint. Perhaps someone else who regularly works with the current code could very quickly and easily make the change.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Damien Garwood
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 4:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Over verbosity in the Winamp plugin

Hi Gene,
Agreed, when I made that particular update (back in the good old Python
2 days!), I had a few other things in mind that I wanted to do with it,
including a setting to toggle the verbosity.
I guess that's as good an excuse as any to get my rusty old brain to at
least try and make friends with the Python 3 books and the rather hazy
and labyrinthic NVDA development documentation and see if I can get an
update released at some point.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 10/09/2020 09:40 am, Gene wrote:
I could have written this as a direct comment to the authors of the plugin, but it may be better to get different opinions here so the authors may have a better sense of what people want, to the extent that the comments may or may not be representative.

I am asking that certain speech be taken out of the plugin or that it be off by default. Specifically, the announcement of play, stop, ;paused and unpaused. There are times when you don't need speech to tell you something. The action is immediately evident in what a program does and at times, the speech is intrusive and annoying. When listening to audio, self-evident announcements such as I mentioned above are, to me intrusive and annoying. I don't object to the rest of the speech. Hering on and off or centered is useful to confirm that a command has been carried out. It isn't nearly as obvious without speech, for example, if you turn repeat on, you wont know it is on until the file repeats.

Gene



Re: Pressing enter starts context menu.

Ali Colak
 

I've updated windows, and its fine so it was my earlier attempts that
had done it. Fortunately the restore fixed the issue.

On 9/9/20, Ali Colak via groups.io <alish54=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Has anyone gotten the latest windows updat, I'm not sure if that was
what originally caused the problem or my own actions. I had updated
earlier in the day and its asking me to update again, and I'm
wondering if I'll have the same problems.

On 9/9/20, Ali Colak via groups.io <alish54=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,
Thanks everyone, The restore worked and everything is back to normal.

On 9/9/20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Well for NVDA, if you press NVDA+Q, then down arrow to "Restart with
add-ons disabled", that will do as the name suggests - at that point,
you
can try accessing links in Firefox again and if it works, you know it
was
one of your NVDA add-ons, and if it still doesn't work, it is something
else - either NVDA, Firefox, or something else on the PC interfering.
FWIW, I have seen issues with links not working with ENTER where they
work
with SHIFT+ENTER, but I haven't seen enter opening the context menu
before.

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 10:44 AM David Griffith <daj.griffith@gmail.com>
wrote:

I cannot really tell what is happening and somebody else might have a
simple answer but honestly in this situation I would simply uninstall
and
re-install as that is normally a lot quicker than hours of research.



David G.



Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10



*From: *Ali Colak <alish54@gmail.com>
*Sent: *09 September 2020 16:02
*To: *nvda@groups.io
*Subject: *[nvda] Pressing enter starts context menu.



Hello everyone,

To somerise, I've been encountering a problem on firefox running the

latest version of NVDA where on certain pages, including the search

results page on google, where pressing enter on a link brings up the

context menu rather than actually entering it. Alt+enter works fine,

but regular enter does not on some pages.





Earlier in the morning I had tried playing arround with the mouse

settings and the regedit in order to solve another problem that I had

been having, but when the solutions for that issue didn't work I

reversed thos actions. Thats when I started having the problem. I've

tested the problem with JAWS using firefox and chrome, and with NVDA

using chrome and there was no problem, but firefox with NVDA shows the

problem.



Any ideas?








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Training and Support Manager

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Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
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Re: Over verbosity in the Winamp plugin

Damien Garwood <damien@...>
 

Hi Gene,
Agreed, when I made that particular update (back in the good old Python 2 days!), I had a few other things in mind that I wanted to do with it, including a setting to toggle the verbosity.
I guess that's as good an excuse as any to get my rusty old brain to at least try and make friends with the Python 3 books and the rather hazy and labyrinthic NVDA development documentation and see if I can get an update released at some point.
Cheers,
Damien.

On 10/09/2020 09:40 am, Gene wrote:
I could have written this as a direct comment to the authors of the plugin, but it may be better to get different opinions here so the authors may have a better sense of what people want, to the extent that the comments may or may not be representative.
I am asking that certain speech be taken out of the plugin or that it be off by default.  Specifically, the announcement of play, stop, ;paused and unpaused.  There are times when you don't need speech to tell you something. The action is immediately evident in what a program does and at times, the speech is intrusive and annoying.  When listening to audio, self-evident announcements such as I mentioned above are, to me intrusive and annoying. I don't object to the rest of the speech. Hering on and off or centered is useful to confirm that a command has been carried out.  It isn't nearly as obvious without speech, for example, if you turn repeat on, you wont know it is on until the file repeats.
Gene


Re: Update on previously mentioned issue with single-letternavigation

Gene
 

I just checked this. NVDA is set not to announce quick navigation keys when in browse mode. I tried many, h for move by heading, b for button, x for check box and r for radio button. None were spoken.

However, in the case of the person with the problem, since turning off speak typed carachters stopped the lag, it raises the question as to whether in her case, something is being generated that shouldn't be. I would think a log would be important.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Mullins
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 4:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Update on previously mentioned issue with single-letternavigation



Hi

With “Speak Typed Characters” set to on NVDA has to announce the letter pressed first then the name of the object to which

focus has moved and the delay between the 2 announcements is understandable as it makes them distinct. The delay between the 2 announcements is arguably a little longer than necessary but as to whether this could be shortened programmatically or even made dynamically adjustable is something only the developers would know.



Cheers

Chris





From: Sharni-Lee Ward
Sent: 10 September 2020 03:20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Update on previously mentioned issue with single-letternavigation





I stated back when I first updated to the latest version of NVDA that I

was getting a delayed response when using single-letter navigation,

where I would press the key and would have to wait half a second to hear

the cursor's new position. I turned off "Speak Typed Characters" for an

unrelated reason this morning, and when using single-letter navigation

on the desktop, the response was immediate.


Re: Update on previously mentioned issue with single-letternavigation

Chris Mullins
 

                Hi

With “Speak Typed Characters” set to on NVDA has to announce the letter pressed first then the name of the object to which

focus has moved and the delay between the 2 announcements is understandable as it makes them distinct.  The delay between the 2 announcements is arguably a little longer than necessary but as to whether this could be shortened programmatically or even made dynamically adjustable is something only the developers would know. 

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: Sharni-Lee Ward
Sent: 10 September 2020 03:20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Update on previously mentioned issue with single-letternavigation

 

I stated back when I first updated to the latest version of NVDA that I

was getting a delayed response when using single-letter navigation,

where I would press the key and would have to wait half a second to hear

the cursor's new position. I turned off "Speak Typed Characters" for an

unrelated reason this morning, and when using single-letter navigation

on the desktop, the response was immediate.

 

 

 

 


Over verbosity in the Winamp plugin

Gene
 

I could have written this as a direct comment to the authors of the plugin, but it may be better to get different opinions here so the authors may have a better sense of what people want, to the extent that the comments may or may not be representative.

I am asking that certain speech be taken out of the plugin or that it be off by default. Specifically, the announcement of play, stop, ;paused and unpaused. There are times when you don't need speech to tell you something. The action is immediately evident in what a program does and at times, the speech is intrusive and annoying. When listening to audio, self-evident announcements such as I mentioned above are, to me intrusive and annoying. I don't object to the rest of the speech. Hering on and off or centered is useful to confirm that a command has been carried out. It isn't nearly as obvious without speech, for example, if you turn repeat on, you wont know it is on until the file repeats.

Gene


Re: Entering time values on youtube website

Gene
 

But mentioned under what conditions? By a screen-reader? By a news broadcast, by something else? I heard about an advertising campaign where a commercial had a word that would cause a certain digital assistance to do something, but I don't recall what now. But I'm asking about screen-reader speech specifically. It may not be necessary to worry about that as a trigger. The speech may be different enough from human speech that assistants don't recognize it.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 2:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Entering time values on youtube website

I have had my alexa speaker trigger when alexa is mentioned but I always
have the microphone off when not using directly.

In fact when I am sure that I am not going to use my new dot, due to all
the spying and stuff that is rumored, I actually unplug the echo dot
from the wall.

I have a bad habbit of talking to myself, especially at night, and
especially during my sleep.

I find it good to keep my echo unplugged.

My only gripe is that some payed skill content is not available in new
zealand.



On 10/09/2020 7:43 pm, Gene wrote:
Has anyone had any digital assistant triggered by having a screen-reader say its name? I don't recall seeing any messages on the lists I follow about this. And I have a friend with an Echo who, at times when we talk and say the name of the assistant has it try to do something or say she can't find something, but only when she says the name. We did an experiment and when I, on her speaker phone, say the name, there is no response.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 11:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Entering time values on youtube website



It's a "wow in the world" reference. If anyone is interested just consult zootle for more.

Glad the tip helped. You can do so much with that url. I even know someone who changed the format, time, speed I think. I'm not really sure what else.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 9 Sep 2020, at 15:38, JM Casey wrote:




Thank you Sarah. Definitely more than apparent under youtube’s hood. Also zootle made me chuckle. And I’m weird so I now had to check to see if that’s a website. Nope..ah well!







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: September 8, 2020 7:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Entering time values on youtube website







You can actually modify the URL with I think something like t=600 for 600 seconds. If you know what you are doing, you can modify that uRL to do a lot. You will have to consult our best friend zootle (I changed the name so as not to trigger anyone's homes) and find the exact codes.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 8 Sep 2020, at 13:46, JM Casey wrote:



Hello everyone. Using NVDA 2020.2, and, in this case, Chrome, my favourite browser for a ccessing youtube as it is extremely responsive to the keyboard commands.

Recently I’ve come to use youtube more than usual, and have finally taken a good amount of time to figure out how the interface actually works, how to navigate channels and the player, etc. I’ve come across some recordings that are several hours long. A cool thing is that if I exit the site for whatever reason and then come back to it, even well after the browser session is closed, my place is usually “remembered” by youtube. However, I’d like to be able to specify the time at which to start playing in presentations that are sometimes 6+ hours long. I am pretty sure this can be done, but I’m having trouble figuring out where the cursor should be positioned to enter in the vlue. I have tried switching browse mode off and being in the position where the current elapsed time fo the recording is shown, but this doesn’t seem to do the trick. I believe I understand what the format should be (hours:minutes:seconds).

Any tips?

Thanks!

















Re: Entering time values on youtube website

 

I have had my alexa speaker trigger when alexa is mentioned but I always have the microphone off when not using directly.

In fact when I am sure that I am not going to use my new dot, due to all the spying and stuff that is rumored, I actually unplug the echo dot from the wall.

I have a bad habbit of talking to myself, especially at night, and especially during my sleep.

I find it good to keep my echo unplugged.

My only gripe is that some payed skill content is not available in new zealand.

On 10/09/2020 7:43 pm, Gene wrote:
Has anyone had any digital assistant triggered by having a screen-reader say its name?  I don't recall seeing any messages on the lists I follow about this.  And I have a friend with an Echo who, at times when we talk and say the name of the assistant has it try to do something or say she can't find something, but only when she says the name.  We did an experiment and when I, on her speaker phone, say the name, there is no response.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 11:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Entering time values on youtube website



It's a "wow in the world" reference. If anyone is interested just consult zootle for more.

Glad the tip helped. You can do so much with that url. I even know someone who changed the format, time, speed I think. I'm not really sure what else.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 9 Sep 2020, at 15:38, JM Casey wrote:




Thank you Sarah. Definitely more than apparent under youtube’s hood. Also zootle made me chuckle. And I’m weird so I now had to check to see if that’s a website. Nope..ah well!







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: September 8, 2020 7:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Entering time values on youtube website







You can actually modify the URL with I think something like t=600 for 600 seconds. If you know what you are doing, you can modify that uRL to do a lot. You will have to consult our best friend zootle (I changed the name so as not to trigger anyone's homes) and find the exact codes.

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On 8 Sep 2020, at 13:46, JM Casey wrote:



Hello everyone. Using NVDA 2020.2, and, in this case, Chrome, my favourite browser for a ccessing youtube as it is extremely responsive to the keyboard commands.

Recently I’ve come to use youtube more than usual, and have finally taken a good amount of time to figure out how the interface actually works, how to navigate channels and the player, etc. I’ve come across some recordings that are several hours long. A cool thing is that if I exit the site for whatever reason and then come back to it, even well after the browser session is closed, my place is usually “remembered” by youtube. However, I’d like to be able to specify the time at which to start playing in presentations that are sometimes 6+ hours long. I am pretty sure this can be done, but I’m having trouble figuring out where the cursor should be positioned to enter in the vlue. I have tried switching browse mode off and being in the position where the current elapsed time fo the recording is shown, but this doesn’t seem to do the trick. I believe I understand what the format should be (hours:minutes:seconds).

Any tips?

Thanks!
















Re: Entering time values on youtube website

Gene
 

Has anyone had any digital assistant triggered by having a screen-reader say its name? I don't recall seeing any messages on the lists I follow about this. And I have a friend with an Echo who, at times when we talk and say the name of the assistant has it try to do something or say she can't find something, but only when she says the name. We did an experiment and when I, on her speaker phone, say the name, there is no response.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, September 09, 2020 11:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Entering time values on youtube website



It's a "wow in the world" reference. If anyone is interested just consult zootle for more.

Glad the tip helped. You can do so much with that url. I even know someone who changed the format, time, speed I think. I'm not really sure what else.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 9 Sep 2020, at 15:38, JM Casey wrote:




Thank you Sarah. Definitely more than apparent under youtube’s hood. Also zootle made me chuckle. And I’m weird so I now had to check to see if that’s a website. Nope..ah well!







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: September 8, 2020 7:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Entering time values on youtube website







You can actually modify the URL with I think something like t=600 for 600 seconds. If you know what you are doing, you can modify that uRL to do a lot. You will have to consult our best friend zootle (I changed the name so as not to trigger anyone's homes) and find the exact codes.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 8 Sep 2020, at 13:46, JM Casey wrote:



Hello everyone. Using NVDA 2020.2, and, in this case, Chrome, my favourite browser for a ccessing youtube as it is extremely responsive to the keyboard commands.

Recently I’ve come to use youtube more than usual, and have finally taken a good amount of time to figure out how the interface actually works, how to navigate channels and the player, etc. I’ve come across some recordings that are several hours long. A cool thing is that if I exit the site for whatever reason and then come back to it, even well after the browser session is closed, my place is usually “remembered” by youtube. However, I’d like to be able to specify the time at which to start playing in presentations that are sometimes 6+ hours long. I am pretty sure this can be done, but I’m having trouble figuring out where the cursor should be positioned to enter in the vlue. I have tried switching browse mode off and being in the position where the current elapsed time fo the recording is shown, but this doesn’t seem to do the trick. I believe I understand what the format should be (hours:minutes:seconds).

Any tips?

Thanks!


Re: Entering time values on youtube website

Sarah k Alawami
 

It's a "wow in the world" reference. If anyone is interested just consult zootle for more.

Glad the tip helped. You can do so much with that url. I even know someone who changed the format, time, speed I think. I'm not really sure what else.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 9 Sep 2020, at 15:38, JM Casey wrote:

Thank you Sarah. Definitely more than apparent under youtube’s hood. Also zootle made me chuckle. And I’m weird so I now had to check to see if that’s a website. Nope..ah well!

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: September 8, 2020 7:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Entering time values on youtube website

 

You can actually modify the URL with I think something like t=600 for 600 seconds. If you know what you are doing, you can modify that uRL to do a lot. You will have to consult our best friend zootle (I changed the name so as not to trigger anyone's homes) and find the exact codes.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 8 Sep 2020, at 13:46, JM Casey wrote:

Hello everyone. Using NVDA 2020.2, and, in this case, Chrome, my favourite browser for a ccessing youtube as it is extremely responsive to the keyboard commands.

Recently I’ve come to use youtube more than usual, and have finally taken a good amount of time to figure out how the interface actually works, how to navigate channels and the player, etc. I’ve come across some recordings that are several hours long. A cool thing is that if I exit the site for whatever reason and then come back to it, even well after the browser session is closed, my place is usually “remembered” by youtube. However, I’d like to be able to specify the time at which to start playing in presentations that are sometimes 6+ hours long. I am pretty sure this can be done, but I’m having trouble figuring out where the cursor should be positioned to enter in the vlue. I have tried switching browse mode off and being in the position where the current elapsed time fo the recording is shown, but this doesn’t seem to do the trick. I believe I understand what the format should be (hours:minutes:seconds).

Any tips?

Thanks!

 

 


Re: Pressing enter starts context menu.

Ali Colak
 

Has anyone gotten the latest windows updat, I'm not sure if that was
what originally caused the problem or my own actions. I had updated
earlier in the day and its asking me to update again, and I'm
wondering if I'll have the same problems.

On 9/9/20, Ali Colak via groups.io <alish54=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,
Thanks everyone, The restore worked and everything is back to normal.

On 9/9/20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Well for NVDA, if you press NVDA+Q, then down arrow to "Restart with
add-ons disabled", that will do as the name suggests - at that point, you
can try accessing links in Firefox again and if it works, you know it was
one of your NVDA add-ons, and if it still doesn't work, it is something
else - either NVDA, Firefox, or something else on the PC interfering.
FWIW, I have seen issues with links not working with ENTER where they
work
with SHIFT+ENTER, but I haven't seen enter opening the context menu
before.

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 10:44 AM David Griffith <daj.griffith@gmail.com>
wrote:

I cannot really tell what is happening and somebody else might have a
simple answer but honestly in this situation I would simply uninstall
and
re-install as that is normally a lot quicker than hours of research.



David G.



Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10



*From: *Ali Colak <alish54@gmail.com>
*Sent: *09 September 2020 16:02
*To: *nvda@groups.io
*Subject: *[nvda] Pressing enter starts context menu.



Hello everyone,

To somerise, I've been encountering a problem on firefox running the

latest version of NVDA where on certain pages, including the search

results page on google, where pressing enter on a link brings up the

context menu rather than actually entering it. Alt+enter works fine,

but regular enter does not on some pages.





Earlier in the morning I had tried playing arround with the mouse

settings and the regedit in order to solve another problem that I had

been having, but when the solutions for that issue didn't work I

reversed thos actions. Thats when I started having the problem. I've

tested the problem with JAWS using firefox and chrome, and with NVDA

using chrome and there was no problem, but firefox with NVDA shows the

problem.



Any ideas?








--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Web: www.nvaccess.org
Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>






Re: Pressing enter starts context menu.

Ali Colak
 

Hi,
Thanks everyone, The restore worked and everything is back to normal.

On 9/9/20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Well for NVDA, if you press NVDA+Q, then down arrow to "Restart with
add-ons disabled", that will do as the name suggests - at that point, you
can try accessing links in Firefox again and if it works, you know it was
one of your NVDA add-ons, and if it still doesn't work, it is something
else - either NVDA, Firefox, or something else on the PC interfering.
FWIW, I have seen issues with links not working with ENTER where they work
with SHIFT+ENTER, but I haven't seen enter opening the context menu before.

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 10:44 AM David Griffith <daj.griffith@gmail.com>
wrote:

I cannot really tell what is happening and somebody else might have a
simple answer but honestly in this situation I would simply uninstall and
re-install as that is normally a lot quicker than hours of research.



David G.



Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10



*From: *Ali Colak <alish54@gmail.com>
*Sent: *09 September 2020 16:02
*To: *nvda@groups.io
*Subject: *[nvda] Pressing enter starts context menu.



Hello everyone,

To somerise, I've been encountering a problem on firefox running the

latest version of NVDA where on certain pages, including the search

results page on google, where pressing enter on a link brings up the

context menu rather than actually entering it. Alt+enter works fine,

but regular enter does not on some pages.





Earlier in the morning I had tried playing arround with the mouse

settings and the regedit in order to solve another problem that I had

been having, but when the solutions for that issue didn't work I

reversed thos actions. Thats when I started having the problem. I've

tested the problem with JAWS using firefox and chrome, and with NVDA

using chrome and there was no problem, but firefox with NVDA shows the

problem.



Any ideas?








--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Web: www.nvaccess.org
Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>




Re: Update on previously mentioned issue with single-letter navigation

Quentin Christensen
 

I don't recall the original issue (it's good to post updates like this as a reply to the earlier thread so people can follow back what has previously happened).  in any case, a couple of questions:

- What browser(s) and version(s) are you using?
- What NVDA add-ons are you using?

If you press NVDA+Q, down arrow to "Restart with add-ons disabled" and press ENTER, does single letter navigation (with speak typed characters on) still lag?

I just tried it here both with NVDA 2020.2 and NVDA alpha-20876,213a3c2d and I'm not getting any lag navigating in either Chrome or Firefox.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 12:20 PM Sharni-Lee Ward <sharni-lee.ward@...> wrote:
I stated back when I first updated to the latest version of NVDA that I
was getting a delayed response when using single-letter navigation,
where I would press the key and would have to wait half a second to hear
the cursor's new position. I turned off "Speak Typed Characters" for an
unrelated reason this morning, and when using single-letter navigation
on the desktop, the response was immediate.






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Update on previously mentioned issue with single-letter navigation

Sharni-Lee Ward
 

I stated back when I first updated to the latest version of NVDA that I was getting a delayed response when using single-letter navigation, where I would press the key and would have to wait half a second to hear the cursor's new position. I turned off "Speak Typed Characters" for an unrelated reason this morning, and when using single-letter navigation on the desktop, the response was immediate.

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