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Re: control+f - The General Purpose Find Command in Windows

John Sanfilippo
 

Ok, leave the assigned key alone. But #2, bag the OK prompt, and #3 make a sound and wrap to top I think would greatly improve what we have.

John S


Re: Buying Compact vocalizer voices

Socheat
 

Hmm. Can't see them listed here. Maybe I'm missing something. Only the premium and premium high are listed.

On 10/21/2020 10:45 AM, David Goldfield wrote:
Actually, the Eloquence/Vocalizer NVDA voices from Code Factory are supplied with both the compact as well as the higher quality Vocalizer voices.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 10/20/2020 11:29 PM, Socheat Muth wrote:
It depends on what Vocalizer voices you are purchasing from. If you buy the one from Tiflotecnia, they have both the compact voices and premium voices. But if you buy the vocalizer from Code Factory, the only voices that available to you are premium voices only.

On 10/21/2020 1:27 AM, Daniel McGee wrote:
It is because I have a hearing impairment. This is why I prefer  compact versions. I'm only seeing the normal versions of the vocalizer expressive voices and not the compact ones.

On 20 Oct 2020, at 17:24, Joshua Hendrickson <louvins@...> wrote:

I personally don't know why people like the compact voices.  To me,
they sound like complete crap and are all full of static.  I've got
Daniel on my computer and could use him with NVDA if I wanted.  I have
the scansoft version of him using SAPI5.  However, he isn't my
favorite voice.  He sounds very arrogant and snobbish at least to me.
But to each their own.  Good luck.

On 10/20/20, Chris via groups.io <chrismedley@...> wrote:
You get all voices available to you to use including Daniel and whatever
other voices you need to use


From: Daniel McGee
Sent: 20 October 2020 16:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Buying Compact vocalizer voices

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-- 
Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson
















win10 20h2 installation notes

 

Hi all.

Note for those that have installed this and it works, after reading the bug reports there seemed to be no showstoppers so I installed this manually.

Here are notes.

Firstly you will need to set the multitasking to how you want.

You also will need to reinstall virtual midi synth because the device will not show up in windows device manager.

For any recording program such as virtual recorder you may have to set your microphone because it may be unset.

You will need to reinstall all screen reader display drivers if they don't do that on startup because things may not work till you do.

A reminder to deactivate and activate your synths like vocaliser and eloquence.

A reminder to also deauthorise and reauthorise itunes before and after you update else you will have a ghost machine.

To get to classic system properties for now go to start and search for create a restore point, hit enter on that and then hit left and right arrow and adjust as you see fit.

At one point, I guess someone will have to make a list of all the classic control panels, where they are and commands to run.

There are some on the net, sysdm.cpl is system, and mmsys.cpl is sound.

so yeah, unless microsoft delete the files for control panel right now its possible to run the interfaces, all we need is someone to create an app with all the classic control panels in it and we can run that like that as well as use settings.


Bugs/ regressions.

The biggest issue is system restore.

At least in my system, system restore was turned off and I had to turn it back on.

Windows griped about html and pdf causing errors and defaulting them back to their programs of origin, however when I checked the files out after running the programs they were set right so not sure about those.

Audio on realtech cards is slightly quieter at half volume but it sounds a little nicer now at least.

Little was changed, and no extras needed installing.

One last thing, for those that use resilio, in your windows.old folder under windows, system32 config, systemprofile and appdata roaming there is a folder called resilio sync service.

its important you transfer this to system32 in windows config, systemprofile and put it in the appdata roaming folder else you will lose all your path links

On this amd system, fans will spike then suddenly drop for no reason, and I have had at least 1 explorer crash after brousing folders in device manager and a few large file folders and had to restart explorer but so far not much.

Other users have not noticed the update.

For those with amd systems, the latest display driver according to the change log has fixed most of what was left of the majority of the show stopping issues with amd displays.

The biggest for us is youtube playback.

The only other issue to report is that the build ships with edge chromium 84 as well as older components and ll will need to be updated.

I have no idea why microsoft actually did this.

And just before I go, I will be on holiday for 3 days next week, so if I respond to something I shouldn't or seem out of touch its because I am, as I will be shutting down all technology and going away with my radio, recorder and a basic phone  to forget about the world for a little bit.


Re: lion OCR addon

Quentin Christensen
 

I'm not familiar with Lion Live OCR, do you have a link please?


On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 3:36 PM Josh Kennedy <joshknnd1982@...> wrote:

Hi,

The lion live OCR addon is not working with NVDA 2020.3. Does anyone know why? Or does this addon need to be updated?

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


lion OCR addon

Josh Kennedy
 

Hi,

The lion live OCR addon is not working with NVDA 2020.3. Does anyone know why? Or does this addon need to be updated?

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Buying Compact vocalizer voices

David Goldfield
 

Actually, the Eloquence/Vocalizer NVDA voices from Code Factory are supplied with both the compact as well as the higher quality Vocalizer voices.

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org
On 10/20/2020 11:29 PM, Socheat Muth wrote:

It depends on what Vocalizer voices you are purchasing from. If you buy the one from Tiflotecnia, they have both the compact voices and premium voices. But if you buy the vocalizer from Code Factory, the only voices that available to you are premium voices only.

On 10/21/2020 1:27 AM, Daniel McGee wrote:
It is because I have a hearing impairment. This is why I prefer  compact versions. I'm only seeing the normal versions of the vocalizer expressive voices and not the compact ones.

On 20 Oct 2020, at 17:24, Joshua Hendrickson <louvins@...> wrote:

I personally don't know why people like the compact voices.  To me,
they sound like complete crap and are all full of static.  I've got
Daniel on my computer and could use him with NVDA if I wanted.  I have
the scansoft version of him using SAPI5.  However, he isn't my
favorite voice.  He sounds very arrogant and snobbish at least to me.
But to each their own.  Good luck.

On 10/20/20, Chris via groups.io <chrismedley@...> wrote:
You get all voices available to you to use including Daniel and whatever
other voices you need to use


From: Daniel McGee
Sent: 20 October 2020 16:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Buying Compact vocalizer voices

H








-- 
Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson
















Re: Buying Compact vocalizer voices

Socheat
 

It depends on what Vocalizer voices you are purchasing from. If you buy the one from Tiflotecnia, they have both the compact voices and premium voices. But if you buy the vocalizer from Code Factory, the only voices that available to you are premium voices only.

On 10/21/2020 1:27 AM, Daniel McGee wrote:
It is because I have a hearing impairment. This is why I prefer compact versions. I'm only seeing the normal versions of the vocalizer expressive voices and not the compact ones.

On 20 Oct 2020, at 17:24, Joshua Hendrickson <louvins@gmail.com> wrote:

I personally don't know why people like the compact voices. To me,
they sound like complete crap and are all full of static. I've got
Daniel on my computer and could use him with NVDA if I wanted. I have
the scansoft version of him using SAPI5. However, he isn't my
favorite voice. He sounds very arrogant and snobbish at least to me.
But to each their own. Good luck.

On 10/20/20, Chris via groups.io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> wrote:
You get all voices available to you to use including Daniel and whatever
other voices you need to use


From: Daniel McGee
Sent: 20 October 2020 16:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Buying Compact vocalizer voices

H






--
Joshua Hendrickson

Joshua Hendrickson






Re: Microsoft Edge

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Don


There are 2 for edge and one is for the new chromium one.

Which one did you use as there are different directions for both.


I just had a quick look at the tutorial for setting a home page in the new chromium browser.


It looks as though when you go into the settings  now you hear tree view  so you have to arrow down to the on startup menu then press the enter key then the tab key.


When the next page comes up you then need to arrow down the page the directions are still the same to set a home page..


I can look and amend if needed in the next few days.


Gene nz

On 21/10/2020 9:43 am, Don H wrote:
Sorry to say your tutorial meems to be out of date as I can not follow your instructions to set the home page.

On 10/20/2020 3:18 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi Don


is it for the old edge or the new one? I have both on the website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html <http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html>

When you go to the page jump down by headings until you you get to those tutorials on edge.


Hope it helps.


Gene nz


On 21/10/2020 9:07 am, Don H wrote:
Wanting to make the leap to Edge.  Are there any good tutorials to help me get started?  For example can't figure out how to set the home or start up page.















Re: windows feature update 20h2

 

Hmph, wander why that is.

Interestingly, there is the move to shove everything in settings.

Right now that means I can't access the classic system properties directly unless I try to search for something else like  system restore which still has it.

Wish there was a way to continue accessing the classic panels as well as the advanced ones as I like the interface and can get to things faster.

Wander if there will be some sort of classic control panel to access.

On 21/10/2020 3:49 pm, tim wrote:
Got the same on my I5 4th gen.
My I5 8th gen still running 20.04 and both have same build numbers

On 10/20/2020 3:24 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well interestingly the update has appeared on my 4th gen workstation which has to be at least5 years old now but not on my amd laptop.

And yet, it does appear bar java and the display drivers which are updated nothing should be stopping it.

On my workstation, the update took 5 minutes to load and all I did was change the alt tab behaviour so it opens everything normally excluding edge tabs in the alt tab list because I like it like that.

Nothing was changed, in fact the only thing that has changed is the 20h2 tag, even the build is the same.

Nothing seems to be effecting things so far and nothing major needed to be updated.

In fact bar a few app updates I hardly noticed the update curve.



On 21/10/2020 7:59 am, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
NO, it's a feature update - build 19042.572. To check if you've got Version 20H2, open Action Center and see if "tablet mode" is present on desktop systems - if it isn't, then you have 20H2 unless tablet mode is unpinned.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 11:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows feature update 20h2

If you're referring to build # 572, I don't know what the new features are, bas I've seen no change in behavior or programs since I installed it on three systems.


On 10/20/2020 2:28 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Just noticed its come out, not yet for my laptop, but I will wait for it.

What have users found with it so far.



On 21/10/2020 7:16 am, Don H wrote:
Just installed the latest feature update to Windows 10.  Took less
than 10 minutes to install.  I was offered it as a optional update.








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Re: windows feature update 20h2

tim
 

Got the same on my I5 4th gen.
My I5 8th gen still running 20.04 and both have same build numbers

On 10/20/2020 3:24 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Well interestingly the update has appeared on my 4th gen workstation which has to be at least5 years old now but not on my amd laptop.
And yet, it does appear bar java and the display drivers which are updated nothing should be stopping it.
On my workstation, the update took 5 minutes to load and all I did was change the alt tab behaviour so it opens everything normally excluding edge tabs in the alt tab list because I like it like that.
Nothing was changed, in fact the only thing that has changed is the 20h2 tag, even the build is the same.
Nothing seems to be effecting things so far and nothing major needed to be updated.
In fact bar a few app updates I hardly noticed the update curve.
On 21/10/2020 7:59 am, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
NO, it's a feature update - build 19042.572. To check if you've got Version 20H2, open Action Center and see if "tablet mode" is present on desktop systems - if it isn't, then you have 20H2 unless tablet mode is unpinned.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Tuesday, October 20, 2020 11:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows feature update 20h2

If you're referring to build # 572, I don't know what the new features are, bas I've seen no change in behavior or programs since I installed it on three systems.


On 10/20/2020 2:28 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Just noticed its come out, not yet for my laptop, but I will wait for it.

What have users found with it so far.



On 21/10/2020 7:16 am, Don H wrote:
Just installed the latest feature update to Windows 10.  Took less
than 10 minutes to install.  I was offered it as a optional update.








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Re: windows feature update 20h2

 

I really wish that people would not cross-post/multi-post the same exact question/issue to multiple groups at the same time.  It's actually considered bad manners, as it makes a lot of people who would otherwise not have to expend effort do so when the thing is already answered elsewhere.

https://win10.groups.io/g/win10/message/48136  in response to an exact duplicate of Raha Tehrani's message here.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

     ~ Kelley Boorn

 


Re: windows feature update 20h2

Sky Mundell
 

But perhaps that could be fixed?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sky Mundell
Sent: October 20, 2020 5:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows feature update 20h2

That’s very strange that NVDA won't read the information

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Raha Tehrani
Sent: October 20, 2020 1:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows feature update 20h2

Hi.
I've just updated to the latest version. "20H2" I've just discovered a problem with the latest version of NVDA. as you do an alt+enter on This PC, you won't be able to see the same system properties you could previously see. instead, there will be settings which is not mainly supported by NVDA. you can't read the information shown via NVDA. as I switched to JAWS, it did much better. JAWS nearly read most information existed there. but NVDA kept quiet. object navigation didn't do the trick either.
Take care.

On 10/20/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 03:25 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:


Right. At least that’s as far as users need to know. Internally, 20H2
features are in a dormant state.
-
Then it's a staging update, but not the true Feature Update. I have
gone through the staging updates in the past, but until and unless the
Windows 10 Version and Build numbers actually change, it's not a
Feature Update in any meaningful sense of the word.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

~ Kelley Boorn






Re: windows feature update 20h2

Sky Mundell
 

That’s very strange that NVDA won't read the information

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Raha Tehrani
Sent: October 20, 2020 1:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows feature update 20h2

Hi.
I've just updated to the latest version. "20H2" I've just discovered a problem with the latest version of NVDA. as you do an alt+enter on This PC, you won't be able to see the same system properties you could previously see. instead, there will be settings which is not mainly supported by NVDA. you can't read the information shown via NVDA. as I switched to JAWS, it did much better. JAWS nearly read most information existed there. but NVDA kept quiet. object navigation didn't do the trick either.
Take care.

On 10/20/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 03:25 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:


Right. At least that’s as far as users need to know. Internally, 20H2
features are in a dormant state.
-
Then it's a staging update, but not the true Feature Update. I have
gone through the staging updates in the past, but until and unless the
Windows 10 Version and Build numbers actually change, it's not a
Feature Update in any meaningful sense of the word.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

~ Kelley Boorn






Welcome to the NVDA Community Add-ons website - instantTranslate #nvdaaddonsfeed

nvda@nvda.groups.io Integration <nvda@...>
 

instantTranslate

This add-on is used to translate selected and/or clipboard text from one language to another. This is done using an external service.

Configuring languages

To configure source, target and in case swap language, go to: NVDA Menu >> Preferences >> Instant Translate Settings.

There are two comboboxes labeled "Source language" and "Target language", and a checkbox to decide if it must copy the translation to clipboard.

In addition, if you selected auto option (the first choice) from "Source language" combobox, there are also a combobox labeled "Language for swapping" and a checkbox about the auto-swap.

The meaning of two first comboboxes and checkbox for copy is clear, but some words about the rest are necessary. Remember always that the explanations below assume the source language set on the auto option.

The "Language for swapping" combobox is useful when you swap via script (see below) the source and target language; in fact, a target language set on the auto option has no sense, so the addon sets it to value of combobox above.

So, imagine this situation: you usually translate into English (your main language), but sometimes (for example, when you write a document) you need to translate into Italian (your second language, suppose); you can set "Language for swapping" combobox to Italian, so you will translate from English to Italian without accessing directly to the addon settings. Obviously this function has a major or minor utility according to your more frequent needs.

Now, the auto-swap checkbox: it appears if and only if you set the auto option in "Source language" combobox, and is directly connected with "Language for swapping" combobox. If you activate it, then the addon tries to commute automatically from your source and target configuration to a configuration where target becomes the source language, and language selected in "Language for swapping" combobox is the new target language; extremely useful if the source language of the text you want translate is the target language.

A simple example: take again in mind the situation imagined previously; if you translate a text in a language different from English, there is no problem, you get the correct translation in English. But if you need to translate a text from English, normally you get a translation into English identical to original text, and this is a bit useless. Thanks to auto-swap function, however, assuming that you want to know how your text sounds into Italian, the addon commutes automatically the target language to Italian, so it returns a valid translation.

Anyway, this is a temporary configuration; if this option has no effect (it's experimental), try to commute manually to a stable configuration, using the gesture for swapping described below. It's experimental because in some situations (with short texts, tipically), Google does not recognize the real source language correctly, and you have to swap languages manually via script, so to force the source language to be the previous target language (English in our example).

Using

You can use this add-on in two ways:

  1. Select some text using selection commands (shift with arrow keys, for example) and press associated key to translate. translation result willbe read with synthesizer which you are using.
  2. You can also translate text from the Clipboard.

Shortcuts

All following commands must be pressed after modifier key "NVDA+Shift+t":

  • T: Translate selected text,
  • Shift+t: translate text from the Clipboard,
  • S: swap source and target languages,
  • A: announce current configuration,
  • C: copy last result to clipboard,
  • I: identify the language of selected text,
  • H: announces all available commands to user.

Changes for 4.1

  • InstantTranslate is working again, now with Yandex translator service instead of Google.

Changes for 4.0

  • Translation is automatically performed after swapping.
  • Cache bug fixed.

Changes for 3.0

  • Change way how Shortcuts are used, now you can press instantTranslate modifier key "NVDA+Shift+t", and then single letter key to perform some action (see all Commands in the "Shortcuts" section).
  • Implemented swapping languages.
  • Changed configuration format, now we can change instant translate settings if we are in readonly pane, but remember that this will work before first restart of NVDA.
  • Removed limit on amount of text that can be translated.
  • Added shortcut t to the Instant Translate Settings menu item
  • The auto option is now in first position in source combo, and absent in target combo.
  • Added a checkbox for configuring copying translation results.
  • Store config file in the root of settings folder.
  • Source and target languages syncronized with what Google Translate currently exposes (22 Apr 2015).

Changes for 2.1

  • Now addon can translate text from clipboard when pressing nvda+shift+y.

Changes for 2.0

  • Added gui configurator where you can choose source and target languages.
  • Added addon menu item found under preferences menu.
  • Settings now is written in separate config file.
  • Translation results now automatically copies into the clipboard for future manipulations.

Changes for 1.0

  • Initial version.


Re: Microsoft Edge

Don H
 

Sorry to say your tutorial meems to be out of date as I can not follow your instructions to set the home page.

On 10/20/2020 3:18 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi Don


is it for the old edge or the new one? I have both on the website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html <http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html>

When you go to the page jump down by headings until you you get to those tutorials on edge.


Hope it helps.


Gene nz


On 21/10/2020 9:07 am, Don H wrote:
Wanting to make the leap to Edge.  Are there any good tutorials to help me get started?  For example can't figure out how to set the home or start up page.











Re: Microsoft Edge

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Don


is it for the old edge or the new one? I have both on the website at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html <http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html>

When you go to the page jump down by headings until you you get to those tutorials on edge.


Hope it helps.


Gene nz

On 21/10/2020 9:07 am, Don H wrote:
Wanting to make the leap to Edge.  Are there any good tutorials to help me get started?  For example can't figure out how to set the home or start up page.






Re: windows feature update 20h2

Raha Tehrani
 

Hi.
I've just updated to the latest version. "20H2" I've just discovered a
problem with the latest version of NVDA. as you do an alt+enter on
This PC, you won't be able to see the same system properties you could
previously see. instead, there will be settings which is not mainly
supported by NVDA. you can't read the information shown via NVDA. as I
switched to JAWS, it did much better. JAWS nearly read most
information existed there. but NVDA kept quiet. object navigation
didn't do the trick either.
Take care.

On 10/20/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 03:25 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:


Right. At least that’s as far as users need to know. Internally, 20H2
features are in a dormant state.
-
Then it's a staging update, but not the true Feature Update.  I have gone
through the staging updates in the past, but until and unless the Windows 10
Version and Build numbers actually change, it's not a Feature Update in any
meaningful sense of the word.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041

It’s hard waking up and realizing it’s not always black and white.

~ Kelley Boorn






Re: Microsoft Edge

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

There's one on the accessibility central site. There's also one on Freedom Scientific's site. It's on the webinars page.

On 10/20/2020 1:07 PM, Don H wrote:
Wanting to make the leap to Edge.  Are there any good tutorials to help me get started?  For example can't figure out how to set the home or start up page.






Re: Microsoft Edge

 

Don, since edge is chromium based, most of what will work for chrome will work for this to.

On 21/10/2020 9:07 am, Don H wrote:
Wanting to make the leap to Edge.  Are there any good tutorials to help me get started?  For example can't figure out how to set the home or start up page.






Possible cause of a problem with firefox and waterfox when using NVDA along with global commands extension

Jacob Kruger
 

Not really an issue at the moment, since have fixed it here, and, yes, I didn't follow the recent threads on issues with making use of waterfox/firefox, but, just did a completely clean reinstallation of my windows 10 64 bit machine from scratch, and, while installing software packages, and reconfiguring combinations of NVDA and add-ons, etc., I found out that the moment I installed global commands extension, both waterfox and firefox no longer seemed to allow me to interact with the web-page contents, besides tabbing through all elements.


Chrome-based browsers, like chrome itself and brave still seemed to work fine, though.


When I then went into the global commands extension settings, and, turned off it's extended virtual buffer extension, suddenly both those browsers, running versions of the same engine under the hood started working fine again.


In other words, just posting this here in case it's affecting someone else, and, in case this form of a solution wasn't figured out in the prior thread - sorry if duplicate info.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

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