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a helpful tip for anyone using i cloud for windows with NVDA

Jimmy Vonderlinden
 

hey guys. For anyone using i cloud for windows, you may have noticed that on the main screen that NVDA reads the entire window all at once when its displayed and it makes  it impossible to use. Well there is an easy workaround to this that I have found works great. This will only work under windows 10
When in the i cloud window, press the windows key and R at the same time to use recognition and OCR will make the window usable. Hope all find this helpful


Re: thunderbird question

Gene
 

Also, are you a new user?  You said slow with NVDA but is that because you are using NVDA or is it that you have used Thunderbird with another screen-reader and it is faster.  I've seen specific complaints from some people that Thunderbird is slow opening messages on their systems.  Other people don't seem to have the problem.
 
I know that Thunderbird is very popular among blind users.  But Windows Live Mail, though it has a crashing problem on some systems, is a good alternative and you may want to try it.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2019 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] thunderbird question

Hi,


I'm using thunderbird. You could try disabling the global search.
Another reason thunderbird could be sluggish is because you might have a
lot of messages in your inbox. If too many messages in the inbox is the
case, you might want to organize them with creating new folders for your
list and create message filters. That's the only thing I can think of.


Rosemarie



On 12/8/2019 8:39 AM, Darren Tomblin wrote:
> hi, is anyone else using thuhnderbird finding it sluggish with nda. it
> seems like it takes a long time to move between fields and messages.
> does anyone know how to fix this its getting a lttle annoying thanks
>



Re: Thunderbird search

 

Control+shift+k. That will allow you to search inside whichever folder you are in.





On 12/8/2019 10:56 AM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:
Hi.  How do you make the search edit box on thunderbird appear? I can access the search tab, but the edit box for typing in search terms doesn't seem to show up.  Any help gratefully accepted. Cheers!





Re: thunderbird question

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi,


I'm using thunderbird. You could try disabling the global search. Another reason thunderbird could be sluggish is because you might have a lot of messages in your inbox. If too many messages in the inbox is the case, you might want to organize them with creating new folders for your list and create message filters. That's the only thing I can think of.


Rosemarie

On 12/8/2019 8:39 AM, Darren Tomblin wrote:
hi, is anyone else using thuhnderbird finding it sluggish with nda. it
seems like it takes a long time to move between fields and messages.
does anyone know how to fix this its getting a lttle annoying thanks


thunderbird question

Darren Tomblin
 

hi, is anyone else using thuhnderbird finding it sluggish with nda. it
seems like it takes a long time to move between fields and messages.
does anyone know how to fix this its getting a lttle annoying thanks

--
73,
Darren Tomblin(KC9JJJ)


Re: Quick NVDA question

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi.

Hold down control, shift, NVDA and use the left or right arrows to scroll through the options. There are options to change the voice and speech rate. Once you find the option you want use the up and down arrow to increase or decrease the value.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Michael Munn
Sent: Sunday, December 8, 2019 10:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Quick NVDA question

 

Hi all, Michael here.

I can't seem to change the speech rate and the voice on the go with an copy of NVDA on an Laptop using Laptop keyboard layout. I can do it on my other laptop with a full size keyboard.  

Any idea how can I do the same thing as I used to do on my other Laptop on this laptop with laptop keyboard layout? 

Hope to hear from you'all. 

Thanks and and have a nice weekend.

 

Best regards 


Thunderbird search

Jaffar Sidek
 

Hi.  How do you make the search edit box on thunderbird appear? I can access the search tab, but the edit box for typing in search terms doesn't seem to show up.  Any help gratefully accepted. Cheers!


Quick NVDA question

Michael Munn
 

Hi all, Michael here.
I can't seem to change the speech rate and the voice on the go with an copy of NVDA on an Laptop using Laptop keyboard layout. I can do it on my other laptop with a full size keyboard.  
Any idea how can I do the same thing as I used to do on my other Laptop on this laptop with laptop keyboard layout? 
Hope to hear from you'all. 
Thanks and and have a nice weekend.

Best regards 
Michael Munn  

JAWS Certified, 2019

Member: Virginia Association of Blind Students National Federation of the Blind of Virginia 

www.nfbv.org

Student of: Hadley Institute of the Blind 

www.hadley.edu


Re: Anybody have an accessible password service?

Hope Williamson <hopeisjoyful@...>
 

I use LastPass, and I think it's fine. As for logging into a site on a computer that isn't your's, you can do it as long as you remember your LastPass password.


Re: Anybody have an accessible password service?

Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Please don't spread missleading information.

It just mentioned that one site pretended to be Keepass, and spreadviris.

That is irrelevant to KeePass.

If someone use your name to spread viris, then I can say that you are a viris? Or course not.



Luis Guerra 於 8/12/2019 10:08 寫道:


Re: Anybody have an accessible password service?

John Isige
 

I don't have a phone. That's why I was wondering about it.

On 12/7/2019 21:21, Sascha Cowley via Groups.Io wrote:
I personally use LastPass.

It's not great but it's usable.

As for logging in to sites on others' machines, I would usually find
the password on my phone and type it in manually. I don't use other
people's computers though, so I've never done this (closest I've come
is logging in to sites in VMs where installing the browser addon
wouldn't be worthwhile).

On 8/12/2019 12:24, John Isige wrote:
Hey all. Anybody got an accessible password service recommendation?
My wife uses Last Pass and I think people generally seem to like it,
but is it accessible? I personally wonder what you do if you're on a
computer that's not one of yours but you want to log on to a site. Is
there a way to get at your password in that case? I'm pretty sure it
uses apps for phone/tablet but I'm honestly not sure what it does on
PC. I figured I'd ask here because somebody's probably had
experiences. I'll obviously need to feed it the old passwords for
sites and have it change the passwords to whatever it autogenerates.
So I'd like to know that all of that's accessible rather than trying
to chase down services and messing with them, if somebody's already
done the research, so to speak. I'd hate to get halfway through a
process and have it changing things and find out later that it's not
fully accessible or something.




Re: Anybody have an accessible password service?

Nimer Jaber
 

1password, Lastpass, Chrome sync, Bitwarden are all pretty accessible with a few quirks here and there.

Thanks.

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 8:09 PM Luis Guerra <wnynewjersey@...> wrote:
Site Promoting KeePass Password Manager Pushes Malware
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/site-promoting-keepass-password-manager-pushes-malware/





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Re: Anybody have an accessible password service?

Luis Guerra
 


Re: Anybody have an accessible password service?

Sascha Cowley
 

I personally use LastPass.

It's not great but it's usable.

As for logging in to sites on others' machines, I would usually find the password on my phone and type it in manually. I don't use other people's computers though, so I've never done this (closest I've come is logging in to sites in VMs where installing the browser addon wouldn't be worthwhile).

On 8/12/2019 12:24, John Isige wrote:
Hey all. Anybody got an accessible password service recommendation? My wife uses Last Pass and I think people generally seem to like it, but is it accessible? I personally wonder what you do if you're on a computer that's not one of yours but you want to log on to a site. Is there a way to get at your password in that case? I'm pretty sure it uses apps for phone/tablet but I'm honestly not sure what it does on PC. I figured I'd ask here because somebody's probably had experiences. I'll obviously need to feed it the old passwords for sites and have it change the passwords to whatever it autogenerates. So I'd like to know that all of that's accessible rather than trying to chase down services and messing with them, if somebody's already done the research, so to speak. I'd hate to get halfway through a process and have it changing things and find out later that it's not fully accessible or something.



Re: Anybody have an accessible password service?

Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...>
 

I use KeePass


John Isige 於 8/12/2019 9:24 寫道:

Hey all. Anybody got an accessible password service recommendation? My wife uses Last Pass and I think people generally seem to like it, but is it accessible? I personally wonder what you do if you're on a computer that's not one of yours but you want to log on to a site. Is there a way to get at your password in that case? I'm pretty sure it uses apps for phone/tablet but I'm honestly not sure what it does on PC. I figured I'd ask here because somebody's probably had experiences. I'll obviously need to feed it the old passwords for sites and have it change the passwords to whatever it autogenerates. So I'd like to know that all of that's accessible rather than trying to chase down services and messing with them, if somebody's already done the research, so to speak. I'd hate to get halfway through a process and have it changing things and find out later that it's not fully accessible or something.



Anybody have an accessible password service?

John Isige
 

Hey all. Anybody got an accessible password service recommendation? My wife uses Last Pass and I think people generally seem to like it, but is it accessible? I personally wonder what you do if you're on a computer that's not one of yours but you want to log on to a site. Is there a way to get at your password in that case? I'm pretty sure it uses apps for phone/tablet but I'm honestly not sure what it does on PC. I figured I'd ask here because somebody's probably had experiences. I'll obviously need to feed it the old passwords for sites and have it change the passwords to whatever it autogenerates. So I'd like to know that all of that's accessible rather than trying to chase down services and messing with them, if somebody's already done the research, so to speak. I'd hate to get halfway through a process and have it changing things and find out later that it's not fully accessible or something.


Re: Auto connecting to open VPN servers

Jaffar Sidek
 

You could use it for Norde as well.  Cheers!

On 12/8/2019 8:16 AM, Arlene wrote:

Is this like Nord?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mobeen Iqbal
Sent: December 7, 2019 9:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Auto connecting to open VPN servers

 

Hi.

 

The following should work with any VPN provider that supports open VPN,

most of them do. These instructions assume you are using the windows

client. Auto connecting also means you're not restricted to any specific

provider.

 

1. Download the latest version of the open VPN client from:

 

https://openvpn.net/community-downloads/

 

Install  withall the defaults.

 

2. Run the open VPN Gui client using the icon on your desktop. Right

click on the icon in the system tray and go to settings.

 

3. Make sure the show script window is unchecked and silent connection

is checked. Click OK when done.

 

4. Download your preferred open VPN server files from your provider.

With express VPN, it was as simple as clicking on the area of the world

then downloading and saving the relevant file for the country of choice.

 

5. Rename the files to names that are easy to remember. For example,

london1, france1, etc. remember if you use upper case or lower case, for

convenience I make all file names lower case without any spaces.

 

6. Right click the open VPN client in the system tray and click exit.

Then press windows R and copy and paste the following to get to the

folder for the config files.

 

C:\Program Files\OpenVPN\config

 

Press enter. There is a readme file in the folder, ignore it.

 

7. Copy and paste all of the VPN files you downloaded earlier in to this

folder. If prompted to continue with admin rights, click continue all

the way.

 

8. Close the program files folder. Now we need to make the shortcuts on

the desktop. Go to your desktop and press control space until NVDA says

not selected.

 

Press applications, then W for new and go down to shortcut. Press enter

on shortcut and paste the following, replacing the part at the end with

the name of your config file.

 

"C:\Program Files\OpenVPN\bin\openvpn-gui.exe" --connect london1.ovpn

 

9. Press enter and type a name for your shortcut. Press enter when done.

 

10. Go in to notepad and paste the following, making sure that both

items starting with taskkill are on a new line.

 

taskkill /F /IM openvpn.exe

taskkill /F /IM openvpn-gui.exe

11. Save the file to your desktop. When you save the file, call it VPN

disconnect. Tab to the save as type box and arrow down to all files.

Then shift tab back to the file name box and put .bat at the end of your

file name. so it looks like VPN disconnect.bat then press enter. Make

sure the file name does not have .txt in it.

 

12. Finally, make sure all files are on your desktop and press enter on

London or whatever country you created the shortcut to. The first time

you connect to a VPN, you will be prompted for a username and password.

If you tab to save password and check it, you will not be prompted next

time. enter your details and press enter. You should now be connected to

your server of choice. Remember to press enter on VPN disconnect to kill

the VPN connection so you can connect to another server.

 

I hope this helps.

 

Cheers,

 

Mo.

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Auto connecting to open VPN servers

Arlene
 

Is this like Nord?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Mobeen Iqbal
Sent: December 7, 2019 9:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Auto connecting to open VPN servers

 

Hi.

 

The following should work with any VPN provider that supports open VPN,

most of them do. These instructions assume you are using the windows

client. Auto connecting also means you're not restricted to any specific

provider.

 

1. Download the latest version of the open VPN client from:

 

https://openvpn.net/community-downloads/

 

Install  withall the defaults.

 

2. Run the open VPN Gui client using the icon on your desktop. Right

click on the icon in the system tray and go to settings.

 

3. Make sure the show script window is unchecked and silent connection

is checked. Click OK when done.

 

4. Download your preferred open VPN server files from your provider.

With express VPN, it was as simple as clicking on the area of the world

then downloading and saving the relevant file for the country of choice.

 

5. Rename the files to names that are easy to remember. For example,

london1, france1, etc. remember if you use upper case or lower case, for

convenience I make all file names lower case without any spaces.

 

6. Right click the open VPN client in the system tray and click exit.

Then press windows R and copy and paste the following to get to the

folder for the config files.

 

C:\Program Files\OpenVPN\config

 

Press enter. There is a readme file in the folder, ignore it.

 

7. Copy and paste all of the VPN files you downloaded earlier in to this

folder. If prompted to continue with admin rights, click continue all

the way.

 

8. Close the program files folder. Now we need to make the shortcuts on

the desktop. Go to your desktop and press control space until NVDA says

not selected.

 

Press applications, then W for new and go down to shortcut. Press enter

on shortcut and paste the following, replacing the part at the end with

the name of your config file.

 

"C:\Program Files\OpenVPN\bin\openvpn-gui.exe" --connect london1.ovpn

 

9. Press enter and type a name for your shortcut. Press enter when done.

 

10. Go in to notepad and paste the following, making sure that both

items starting with taskkill are on a new line.

 

taskkill /F /IM openvpn.exe

taskkill /F /IM openvpn-gui.exe

11. Save the file to your desktop. When you save the file, call it VPN

disconnect. Tab to the save as type box and arrow down to all files.

Then shift tab back to the file name box and put .bat at the end of your

file name. so it looks like VPN disconnect.bat then press enter. Make

sure the file name does not have .txt in it.

 

12. Finally, make sure all files are on your desktop and press enter on

London or whatever country you created the shortcut to. The first time

you connect to a VPN, you will be prompted for a username and password.

If you tab to save password and check it, you will not be prompted next

time. enter your details and press enter. You should now be connected to

your server of choice. Remember to press enter on VPN disconnect to kill

the VPN connection so you can connect to another server.

 

I hope this helps.

 

Cheers,

 

Mo.

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: VPN

Don H
 

I signed up for the free trial of Encrypt.me and downloaded the windows app. I installed the app and it placed a shortcut on my desktop. I hit enter on that shortcut and absolutely nothing happened. Must be missing something. I did get the varification Email from Encrypt.me and followed the instructions.

On 12/7/2019 2:40 PM, Mobeen Iqbal wrote:
encrypt.me seems OK if you need a basic VPN, but if you're concerned about privacy and 0 logging policies I would look at express VPN or alternatives.
Cheers,
Mo.
On 07/12/2019 20:38, Angelo Sonnesso wrote:
I have been using Tunnel Bear.
It works, but I just started with it.

73 N2DYN Angelo


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jaffar
Sidek
Sent: Saturday, December 7, 2019 3:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] VPN

encrypt.me is an amazing vpn client.  It is actually quite accessible with
NVDA and it is blazingly fast.  I used it as a trial and I have been so taken
by it that I will go ahead and purchase it's premium plan, even though I have
actually purchased plans from Express vpn and nord vpn.  Cheers!

On 12/8/2019 3:39 AM, Don H wrote:
I see Encrypt.me is this what you are referencing?

On 12/7/2019 11:57 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
You can also try in crypt. Look them up, they are amazing, I used
them on the mac when need to stop my ISP from throttling me when I
use bard too much on their end. It has not happeend for a while but
when it does I just route my traffic to california and get my speeds
back.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.
<http://www.tffppodcast.com> This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here
<http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp>

Our telegram <https://t.me/tffppodcast> channel is also a good place
for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord <https://discord.gg/fr7MaVK> is where you will know when
we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
<Http://patreon.com/tffppodcast>

On 7 Dec 2019, at 8:58, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

     Well I'm no hacker lol.

     *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
     *Shaun Everiss
     *Sent:* Saturday, December 7, 2019 11:29 AM
     *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
     *Subject:* Re: [nvda] VPN

     To be honest, there are only 4 or so reasons to get a vpn.

     1.  you work in public networks constantly or places where you
want
     to be secure.

     2.  you want to avoid geoblocking for netflicks or something.

     3.  for business things you do.

     4.  you want to be a scam bater or hacker or something.

     5.  you want to do torrents and pirate stuff.

     I have rarely needed one.

     I don't do it for business, but my brother does.

     Geo blocks to for somethings.

     Since its basically alegal, torrents well say no more.

     I don't pirate so I don't need it.

     On 8/12/2019 3:51 am, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

         I want to get  VPN . . . I like my privacy.

         *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
         <nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf
Of
         *Giles Turnbull
         *Sent:* Saturday, December 7, 2019 9:21 AM
         *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
         *Subject:* Re: [nvda] VPN

         I tried using Express VPN last year but its client was very
hard
         to navigate with NVDA. I figured out how to connect to a VPN
but
         it connected to only one in the whole time I used it whereas
I
         was hoping to choose from a range of available servers.

         I let my Express VPN account lapse when my year's membership
         expired.

         All controls on the Express VPN window were not labelled ...
         there were at least five "button" buttons. I did speak to
their
         tech support team about this but they were not much help ...
I'm
         not sure they really understood what screen reading software
was :(

         Giles








Re: VPN

Mobeen Iqbal
 

encrypt.me seems OK if you need a basic VPN, but if you're concerned about privacy and 0 logging policies I would look at express VPN or alternatives.

Cheers,

Mo.

On 07/12/2019 20:38, Angelo Sonnesso wrote:
I have been using Tunnel Bear.
It works, but I just started with it.

73 N2DYN Angelo


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jaffar
Sidek
Sent: Saturday, December 7, 2019 3:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] VPN

encrypt.me is an amazing vpn client. It is actually quite accessible with
NVDA and it is blazingly fast. I used it as a trial and I have been so taken
by it that I will go ahead and purchase it's premium plan, even though I have
actually purchased plans from Express vpn and nord vpn. Cheers!

On 12/8/2019 3:39 AM, Don H wrote:
I see Encrypt.me is this what you are referencing?

On 12/7/2019 11:57 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
You can also try in crypt. Look them up, they are amazing, I used
them on the mac when need to stop my ISP from throttling me when I
use bard too much on their end. It has not happeend for a while but
when it does I just route my traffic to california and get my speeds
back.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.
<http://www.tffppodcast.com> This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here
<http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp>

Our telegram <https://t.me/tffppodcast> channel is also a good place
for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord <https://discord.gg/fr7MaVK> is where you will know when
we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
<Http://patreon.com/tffppodcast>

On 7 Dec 2019, at 8:58, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

Well I'm no hacker lol.

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*Shaun Everiss
*Sent:* Saturday, December 7, 2019 11:29 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] VPN

To be honest, there are only 4 or so reasons to get a vpn.

1. you work in public networks constantly or places where you
want
to be secure.

2. you want to avoid geoblocking for netflicks or something.

3. for business things you do.

4. you want to be a scam bater or hacker or something.

5. you want to do torrents and pirate stuff.

I have rarely needed one.

I don't do it for business, but my brother does.

Geo blocks to for somethings.

Since its basically alegal, torrents well say no more.

I don't pirate so I don't need it.

On 8/12/2019 3:51 am, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

I want to get VPN . . . I like my privacy.

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf
Of
*Giles Turnbull
*Sent:* Saturday, December 7, 2019 9:21 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] VPN

I tried using Express VPN last year but its client was very
hard
to navigate with NVDA. I figured out how to connect to a VPN
but
it connected to only one in the whole time I used it whereas
I
was hoping to choose from a range of available servers.

I let my Express VPN account lapse when my year's membership
expired.

All controls on the Express VPN window were not labelled ...
there were at least five "button" buttons. I did speak to
their
tech support team about this but they were not much help ...
I'm
not sure they really understood what screen reading software
was :(

Giles