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Re: OCR

g melconian
 

Your correct. Development stopped as the developer for Kurzweil 1000 retired and there has not been any new development on that front. I Think that Kurzweil has gone down hill from that time frame.


Re: Purchasing Eloquence

John Isige
 

For SAPI 5 Eloquence, you can arrow through the main languages, e.g. US
English, German, and so on. But there's no way to get to the voices like
Reed, Glenn, and so on from NVDA. You have to open the program for those.

On 1/11/2020 10:16 AM, Gene wrote:
My recollection, from when I tried the demo, is that if you open the
voice settings, control NVDA v, you can up and down arrow in the voice
selection list and see the various Eloquence voices.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* John Isige <mailto:gwynn@...>
*Sent:* Saturday, January 11, 2020 9:42 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence

The one thing NVDA can't change, as far as I know, is the "voice
profile" in the advanced section of the Eloquence program. It's where
you pick voices like Reed, Gramma, and so on. I've never seen a reason
to change from the default myself, but it's there if anybody wants it,
and so far as I know,, you can only do that from the Eloquence program
itself.


On 1/11/2020 4:14 AM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

That is what I discovered. When they were checked NVDA could not
change anything.

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
you!

*From: *John Isige <mailto:gwynn@...>
*Sent: *Friday, January 10, 2020 10:01 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:*nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence

It shouldn't. If you tab through when you open the Eloquence program,

there are three checkboxes, "force pitch settings", "force speech rate",

and "force volume". If all of them are unchecked, NVDA should be able to

change all of those settings and the changes should stay in place.

On 1/10/2020 19:55, Gene wrote:

Maybe if you set anything in NVDA, it turns the force settings on.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Robert Doc Wright godfearer <mailto:godfearer@...>
*Sent:* Friday, January 10, 2020 7:21 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence
I figured it out. If I set anything in eloquence it over rides the
NVDA settings.
******
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
you!
*From: *Gene <mailto:gsasner@...>
*Sent: *Friday, January 10, 2020 10:34 AM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:*nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence
Check the settings in the actual Eloquence program itself.  I've used
the demo but I didn't work with the settings enough to remember how
you get to this one.  But in the settings for the voices themselves,
there is a force setting.  Make sure it is off.  Force causes the
voices to disregard screen-reader settings and use settings for the
voices themselves.  It is off by default but yours may be on for some
reason.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:*Robert Doc Wright godfearer <mailto:godfearer@...>
*Sent:*Friday, January 10, 2020 8:14 AM
*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:*Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence
I just purchased mine and no matter what I do if I press NVDA+ctrl+the
arrow keys the changes do not take affect. If I press NVDA+ctrl+v and
make changes they are not taking affect. Only when I open Sappi5
eloquence. On Code factory’s page I don’t recall seeing a choice
between Sappi5 and NVDA. Only   eloquence for windows.
******
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
you!
*From: *John Isige <mailto:gwynn@...>
*Sent: *Friday, January 10, 2020 1:12 AM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:*nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence
Uh, no you don't. I can make those changes from the synth settings
ring

or the menus just fine. You've been able to do that since I bought it,
and I think I'm up to version 1.6.6 or something. Unless they made
a new

version and broke something in the last month or so, you should be
able

to change settings without opening Eloquence. I only open mine if
I need

to deactivate before a major Windows update, and reactivate
afterwards.

On 1/10/2020 0:16, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:
What I am noticing is that with the Sappi voice you lose the ability
to change speed, volume, pitch and rate. You have to open
Eloquence to

make those  changes.
******
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do
anything for

you!
*From: *coccinelle@... <mailto:*coccinelle@...>
<mailto:coccinelle@...>

*Sent: *Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:27 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:*nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence
Is there a difference between the NVDA and the SAPI voices?
Thanks
Blessings
Pascal
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of *Shaun

Everiss
*Sent:* Thursday, January 9, 2020 4:56 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence
atguys.com has both the nvda and sapi versions.
Their support is good.
On 10/01/2020 10:51 am, Dan Kerstetter wrote:
     Hello all.
     Where is the best place from which to purchase the Eloquence
     speech synthesizer?  I’ve been to the code factory site;
     downloaded eloquence from their app store, but don’t know how to
     register/purchase it.
     Any help, info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
     Thanks in advance.
     For an hour of good alternative and classic rock tune in to my
     show:  A Little Bit of This and a Little Bit of That  Monday at
     5:00 eastern and Tuesday and Friday 8:00 eastern on out of sight
     radio.
http://www.out-of-sight.net/radio


Re: some keyboard commands

 

Hi,

And provided that authors and reviewers can cooperate on feature scope, documentation, and what not.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 1:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] some keyboard commands

 

Joseph, although most add-ons are included in the official repository of add-ons community, you know very well that many of them are not ...
Some because they never were submitted, and some because no one wanted to approve them, in spite of do not have security problems and they are heavily used by some communities…

 

Let’s have hope that in the future all submitted add-ons without security problems and making what they announce can be included in the NVDA repository…


Rui Fontes

 

 

 

De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em Nome De Joseph Lee
Enviada: sábado, 11 de janeiro de 2020 17:01
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] some keyboard commands

 

Hi,

Sort of exists – all that is needed to be done is authors requesting addition of their add-ons to community add-ons website. At the moment there is a discussion about how to improve add-ons submission and discovery.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 8:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] some keyboard commands

 

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 11:30 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:

There are others, like NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin and FakeClipboardAnouncement, both working in my NVDA Alpha with Python 3…

I have little doubt.

I have wished that there was a true, central repository for NVDA add-ons since I started working with NVDA, but I doubt it's ever going to happen.  I've been around when myriad different user-created add-ons with very specific functions have been brought up, but if you don't know about them they're virtually impossible to find.

It would be nice to have an add-on repository that included fully vetted add-ons, both for current and prior versions of NVDA, under development add-ons, and the "free for all" area of community created add-ons that are completely at your own risk as far as using them.  The only reason anything would be taken out of that last category is if something were determined to be malicious.

I doubt that such a repository will ever come into existence, though.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

 

 


Re: some keyboard commands

Rui Fontes
 

Joseph, although most add-ons are included in the official repository of add-ons community, you know very well that many of them are not ...
Some because they never were submitted, and some because no one wanted to approve them, in spite of do not have security problems and they are heavily used by some communities…

 

Let’s have hope that in the future all submitted add-ons without security problems and making what they announce can be included in the NVDA repository…


Rui Fontes

 

 

De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em Nome De Joseph Lee
Enviada: sábado, 11 de janeiro de 2020 17:01
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] some keyboard commands

 

Hi,

Sort of exists – all that is needed to be done is authors requesting addition of their add-ons to community add-ons website. At the moment there is a discussion about how to improve add-ons submission and discovery.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 8:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] some keyboard commands

 

On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 11:30 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:

There are others, like NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin and FakeClipboardAnouncement, both working in my NVDA Alpha with Python 3…

I have little doubt.

I have wished that there was a true, central repository for NVDA add-ons since I started working with NVDA, but I doubt it's ever going to happen.  I've been around when myriad different user-created add-ons with very specific functions have been brought up, but if you don't know about them they're virtually impossible to find.

It would be nice to have an add-on repository that included fully vetted add-ons, both for current and prior versions of NVDA, under development add-ons, and the "free for all" area of community created add-ons that are completely at your own risk as far as using them.  The only reason anything would be taken out of that last category is if something were determined to be malicious.

I doubt that such a repository will ever come into existence, though.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

 

 


Re: some keyboard commands

Rui Fontes
 

As I wrote in my message, yes.

 

NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin is available, at least, in:

 

https://www.tiflotecnia.net/index_addons.htm

page in Portuguese…

 

FakeClipboard, I think it is only a question of modifying manifest.ini, but I don’t like it because of what you said…

 

Rui Fontes

 

 

De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em Nome De Gene
Enviada: sábado, 11 de janeiro de 2020 17:20
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] some keyboard commands

 

Fake clipboard announcement does what it says.  it says things like copied when you issue the command but it doesn't know if copying took place.  It is just programmed to say a word when a certain command is used.  I don't know what happends in the global plugin.  but will any of these plugins work with the upcoming new version of NVDA?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Rui Fontes

Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 10:30 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] some keyboard commands

 

There are others, like NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin and FakeClipboardAnouncement, both working in my NVDA Alpha with Python 3…

 

Rui

 

De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em Nome De Brian Vogel
Enviada: sábado, 11 de janeiro de 2020 16:16
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] some keyboard commands

 

I knew I'd seen something that made these commands, and some others, be announced, and a quick web search on "NVDA announce cut copy paste commands" led me directly to:

Clipspeak - addons.nvda-project.org

I need to remember to follow my own advice and do a simple web search for this sort of thing.  If you give enough specific search terms you get almost straight to the solution.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

 

 


Re: OCR

 

Thats sad but omnipage line is no longer nuance controled anyway.

It used to be the rage, looks like abbyy is where I probably should go to, its a pitty there is no update.

Saying that the dolphin scanner software cicero has not been seen for ages anymore either.

At least their easyreader windows app while 70 odd nz bucks is a universal app now and at least thats really snappy.

On 12/01/2020 8:55 am, Mary Otten wrote:
K1000 no longer can use omnipage. Lost the license. and the latest is V14, which itself is several years old, and is at revision 14, that is k1000 version 14.14 is, as far as I am aware, the latest, and it has not been updated in quite a while, but still works with windows 10.


On 1/11/2020 11:49 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
It is interesting to note that when I looked at the latest v13, while it used the abbyy and omnipage engines it may or may not use the latest engines as a release note said it used version9 of the abbyy engine and we are using software past version9 of the program, but maybe the engine is different.



On 12/01/2020 12:01 am, André wrote:
I am actually a little bit surprised. I used Kurzweil Educational
Systems 1000 with a scanner when I was in school 15 years ago. But at
the time, this ocr did a lot of mistakes, meaning that even quite common
characters  in plain text where often recognized falsely. In contrast to
that, Abby   FineReader has trouble only with special mathematical
symbols, or if the resolution of the image is very poor. Otherwise, I
have not yet encountered mistakes  with its OCR / I use version 14. But
maybe the Kurzweil OCR engine improved over the last years?



On 11/01/2020 07:35, Shaun Everiss wrote:
While in university, I tried the demo and liked it.

I couldn't afford the software so just cracked it with some serials
some guy gave me from somewhere.

I used it for the next 5 years.

My eventual plan then was to buy the software but when I upgraded to
the next windows version, that was one of the things I had to give up.

If I ever get a actual well paying contract or something or win loto
or something which gets me a load of cash though I'm going to buy it.

I found the program a seemless experience using both abbyy and
omnipage engines with braille translation and pdf viewing second to
none and it would always be the prefured scanner of choice.

I use abbyy fine reader and while that and knfb does work well enough,
I would prefur it as it saved my rear many times.



On 11/01/2020 5:57 pm, Monte Single wrote:
Yes,

It is a great program;  toobad the k 1000 costs a thousand dollars,
but loaded with bells and whistles.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shaun Everiss
Sent: January-10-20 7:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR

Hmph.
I did not know that.
So I guess we can view the knfb reader is the kurzweil home version
with just basic scanning and ocr without the other stuff.
Now eventually I plan to get the regular k1000 as I used it at
university for various things, including braille conversion, and its
a really good program.

On 11/01/2020, Monte Single <mrsingle@...> wrote:
Hi Shaun,



The k in knfb  comes from Kurzweil.

The earliest versions of Kurzweil scanning software go back to the
seventies.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shaun Everiss
Sent: January-10-20 4:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR



I have both abbyy and knfb I got knfb on convention week last year or
was it the year before when it was only 20 us it is a good program but
had no idea it works with a scanner.





On 11/01/2020 10:08 am, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi



The app I use on my windows 10 machine is KNFB reader and is very
accessible with nvda. it works with my flat bed scanner/printer and it
seems if you have a couple of computers with the same account and a
spare scanner it can be installed on the other computer as well.



I think also you can trial it 25 scans with some limitations then it
has to be brought. Not sure what price it is now I did not think it
was that bad may be 90 dollars kiwi on sale? You would ahve to see how
much in your language dollars but only works on windows 10.



Gene nz



On 10/01/2020 8:26 pm, Brian Crabtree wrote:

I don’t have any recent experience of Abbyy, but I set up Omnipage for
a friend in 2018 and he finds it works well with his flatbed scanner.



I set up two simple workflows using Omnipage itself (I can’t write
scripts) and he runs them using NVDA, rather than using the buttons
on the scanner.



What follows are my instructions on using the workflows, in case they
might help someone to choose between Abby and Omnipage. Here they are:



The workflows allow you to choose either to scan a physical document
before doing O C R or to select a document to O C R - for example, a
file that was attached to an email, so is already in electronic form
but is not yet readable by NVDA.



Each set of instructions to Omnipage is called a workflow - the one
you will normally want I have called "Scan to Word”.



The way to run a scan is to start Omnipage from the TaskBar, using
Windows key plus T for Tango, then arrowing to Omnipage and pressing
Enter to start it.



It seems that Omnipage does not remember which workflow you were using
last, so you need to change the workflow each time, as follows:

*    Load Omnipage.
*    Remove the document it has saved from the previous run, if any, by
pressing alt plus f then n.
*    Press No when asked to save it.
*    Select the correct workflow using alt plus p then w to open the
workflows
list.
*    Arrow down to the one for “Scan to Word” and press Enter to
select it.
*    Start the selected workflow using alt plus p then w then s - if
you are
scanning, the scan will start.
*    N B  if you choose the workflow to O C R a file that you have
saved
earlier (e.g. one which was attached to an email) you will be taken to
a File Explorer window, to choose it, with the current directory set
to Downloads, so it’s easiest if you save attachments in the
Downloads folder.
*    Wait for the workflow to complete - for the scan workflow,
click the "stop
loading pages" button.
*    NVDA seems not to speak, so alt plus tab out & back to start
speech and
you should hear it speak the wording that has been recognised.

If NVDA refuses to speak, you can get Omnipage to voice the result.
After pressing caps lock plus S (twice) to turn NVDA speech off:

*    turn on Omnipage's speech mode by pressing F5 or alt plus t
then s.
*    press ctrl plus end to hear the result spoken.
*    you can interrupt or stop Omnipage speech by pressing F.
*    after it finishes, turn NVDA speech back on with caps lock plus S.















--
Martin Wiemer

Grabensprung 185
12683 Berlin
Germany

Tel.: +49 178 715 66 76




.


Re: OCR

Mary Otten
 

K1000 no longer can use omnipage. Lost the license. and the latest is V14, which itself is several years old, and is at revision 14, that is k1000 version 14.14 is, as far as I am aware, the latest, and it has not been updated in quite a while, but still works with windows 10.

On 1/11/2020 11:49 AM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
It is interesting to note that when I looked at the latest v13, while it used the abbyy and omnipage engines it may or may not use the latest engines as a release note said it used version9 of the abbyy engine and we are using software past version9 of the program, but maybe the engine is different.



On 12/01/2020 12:01 am, André wrote:
I am actually a little bit surprised. I used Kurzweil Educational
Systems 1000 with a scanner when I was in school 15 years ago. But at
the time, this ocr did a lot of mistakes, meaning that even quite common
characters  in plain text where often recognized falsely. In contrast to
that, Abby   FineReader has trouble only with special mathematical
symbols, or if the resolution of the image is very poor. Otherwise, I
have not yet encountered mistakes  with its OCR / I use version 14. But
maybe the Kurzweil OCR engine improved over the last years?



On 11/01/2020 07:35, Shaun Everiss wrote:
While in university, I tried the demo and liked it.

I couldn't afford the software so just cracked it with some serials
some guy gave me from somewhere.

I used it for the next 5 years.

My eventual plan then was to buy the software but when I upgraded to
the next windows version, that was one of the things I had to give up.

If I ever get a actual well paying contract or something or win loto
or something which gets me a load of cash though I'm going to buy it.

I found the program a seemless experience using both abbyy and
omnipage engines with braille translation and pdf viewing second to
none and it would always be the prefured scanner of choice.

I use abbyy fine reader and while that and knfb does work well enough,
I would prefur it as it saved my rear many times.



On 11/01/2020 5:57 pm, Monte Single wrote:
Yes,

It is a great program;  toobad the k 1000 costs a thousand dollars,
but loaded with bells and whistles.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shaun Everiss
Sent: January-10-20 7:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR

Hmph.
I did not know that.
So I guess we can view the knfb reader is the kurzweil home version
with just basic scanning and ocr without the other stuff.
Now eventually I plan to get the regular k1000 as I used it at
university for various things, including braille conversion, and its
a really good program.

On 11/01/2020, Monte Single <mrsingle@...> wrote:
Hi Shaun,



The k in knfb  comes from Kurzweil.

The earliest versions of Kurzweil scanning software go back to the
seventies.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shaun Everiss
Sent: January-10-20 4:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR



I have both abbyy and knfb I got knfb on convention week last year or
was it the year before when it was only 20 us it is a good program but
had no idea it works with a scanner.





On 11/01/2020 10:08 am, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi



The app I use on my windows 10 machine is KNFB reader and is very
accessible with nvda. it works with my flat bed scanner/printer and it
seems if you have a couple of computers with the same account and a
spare scanner it can be installed on the other computer as well.



I think also you can trial it 25 scans with some limitations then it
has to be brought. Not sure what price it is now I did not think it
was that bad may be 90 dollars kiwi on sale? You would ahve to see how
much in your language dollars but only works on windows 10.



Gene nz



On 10/01/2020 8:26 pm, Brian Crabtree wrote:

I don’t have any recent experience of Abbyy, but I set up Omnipage for
a friend in 2018 and he finds it works well with his flatbed scanner.



I set up two simple workflows using Omnipage itself (I can’t write
scripts) and he runs them using NVDA, rather than using the buttons
on the scanner.



What follows are my instructions on using the workflows, in case they
might help someone to choose between Abby and Omnipage. Here they are:



The workflows allow you to choose either to scan a physical document
before doing O C R or to select a document to O C R - for example, a
file that was attached to an email, so is already in electronic form
but is not yet readable by NVDA.



Each set of instructions to Omnipage is called a workflow - the one
you will normally want I have called "Scan to Word”.



The way to run a scan is to start Omnipage from the TaskBar, using
Windows key plus T for Tango, then arrowing to Omnipage and pressing
Enter to start it.



It seems that Omnipage does not remember which workflow you were using
last, so you need to change the workflow each time, as follows:

*    Load Omnipage.
*    Remove the document it has saved from the previous run, if any, by
pressing alt plus f then n.
*    Press No when asked to save it.
*    Select the correct workflow using alt plus p then w to open the
workflows
list.
*    Arrow down to the one for “Scan to Word” and press Enter to
select it.
*    Start the selected workflow using alt plus p then w then s - if
you are
scanning, the scan will start.
*    N B  if you choose the workflow to O C R a file that you have
saved
earlier (e.g. one which was attached to an email) you will be taken to
a File Explorer window, to choose it, with the current directory set
to Downloads, so it’s easiest if you save attachments in the
Downloads folder.
*    Wait for the workflow to complete - for the scan workflow,
click the "stop
loading pages" button.
*    NVDA seems not to speak, so alt plus tab out & back to start
speech and
you should hear it speak the wording that has been recognised.

If NVDA refuses to speak, you can get Omnipage to voice the result.
After pressing caps lock plus S (twice) to turn NVDA speech off:

*    turn on Omnipage's speech mode by pressing F5 or alt plus t
then s.
*    press ctrl plus end to hear the result spoken.
*    you can interrupt or stop Omnipage speech by pressing F.
*    after it finishes, turn NVDA speech back on with caps lock plus S.















--
Martin Wiemer

Grabensprung 185
12683 Berlin
Germany

Tel.: +49 178 715 66 76




.


Re: OCR

 

Yes the iris scanner software is good but the latest versions were not accessible, which at the time was a pitty.

Not sure if this is the case, but because of the scanner I did have back in the day, the software per licence became quite cheap in fact I think it was 130 dollars for about 5 units for the standard version which was retailing for about 200 bucks, and about 400 dollars for the company version which was at least 1000 bucks.

I almost brought that because of the deal they had but was advised that these were not accessible.

I use abbyy now and have brought into that echosystem.

I have paperport which is a stripped down omnipage, and the brother version I have is a full version so.



On 12/01/2020 3:40 am, coccinelle@... wrote:

Hi,

Have been using the HP I.R.I.S. OCR which came with my HP Jet Pro printer 8710 wireless a printer/scanner combo purchased 3 years ago for $99.  It works well and is accessible with NVDA.  It saves in PDF image, RTF and TXT. The printer has a document feeder that accommodate 50 pages.

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 9:32 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR

 

I have been using scanners since the last millennium.

I have used Canon, hp and Epson brands.

From my experience, the only reason the scanner would yield poor results is if the platen is dirty or the quality of the  text is poor.

It is the ocr software and the software setting that determine the results.

Just because the hardware specs of the scanner   are higher has nothing to do with the ocr results.

Most ocr software is set  to 300 dots per inch when scanning text.

This is about the lowest resolution a typical scanner is set to.

I may be be mistaken in some respect,  but this has been my experience.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Angel
Sent: January-11-20 6:11 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR

 

Perhaps the difficulty often encountered with optical character recognition software might be the sort of scanner employed.  I upgraded my computer, recently.  Which involved purchasing a new scanner.  I changed brands of scanner.  I found my new scanner made quite a difference in the ability to recognize character recognition.  Of course, I use the “Open Book” program.    

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 1:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR

 

While in university, I tried the demo and liked it.

 

I couldn't afford the software so just cracked it with some serials some

guy gave me from somewhere.

 

I used it for the next 5 years.

 

My eventual plan then was to buy the software but when I upgraded to the

next windows version, that was one of the things I had to give up.

 

If I ever get a actual well paying contract or something or win loto or

something which gets me a load of cash though I'm going to buy it.

 

I found the program a seemless experience using both abbyy and omnipage

engines with braille translation and pdf viewing second to none and it

would always be the prefured scanner of choice.

 

I use abbyy fine reader and while that and knfb does work well enough, I

would prefur it as it saved my rear many times.

 

 

 

On 11/01/2020 5:57 pm, Monte Single wrote:

> Yes,

> It is a great program;  toobad the k 1000 costs a thousand dollars, but loaded with bells and whistles.

> -----Original Message-----

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss

> Sent: January-10-20 7:22 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR

> Hmph.

> I did not know that.

> So I guess we can view the knfb reader is the kurzweil home version with just basic scanning and ocr without the other stuff.

> Now eventually I plan to get the regular k1000 as I used it at university for various things, including braille conversion, and its a really good program.

> On 11/01/2020, Monte Single <mrsingle@...> wrote:

>> Hi Shaun,

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> The k in knfb  comes from Kurzweil.

>> 

>> The earliest versions of Kurzweil scanning software go back to the

>> seventies.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of

>> Shaun Everiss

>> Sent: January-10-20 4:41 PM

>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

>> Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> I have both abbyy and knfb I got knfb on convention week last year or

>> was it the year before when it was only 20 us it is a good program but

>> had no idea it works with a scanner.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> On 11/01/2020 10:08 am, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

>> 

>> Hi

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> The app I use on my windows 10 machine is KNFB reader and is very

>> accessible with nvda. it works with my flat bed scanner/printer and it

>> seems if you have a couple of computers with the same account and a

>> spare scanner it can be installed on the other computer as well.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> I think also you can trial it 25 scans with some limitations then it

>> has to be brought. Not sure what price it is now I did not think it

>> was that bad may be 90 dollars kiwi on sale? You would ahve to see how

>> much in your language dollars but only works on windows 10.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Gene nz

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> On 10/01/2020 8:26 pm, Brian Crabtree wrote:

>> 

>> I don’t have any recent experience of Abbyy, but I set up Omnipage for

>> a friend in 2018 and he finds it works well with his flatbed scanner.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> I set up two simple workflows using Omnipage itself (I can’t write

>> scripts) and he runs them using NVDA, rather than using the buttons on the scanner.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> What follows are my instructions on using the workflows, in case they

>> might help someone to choose between Abby and Omnipage. Here they are:

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> The workflows allow you to choose either to scan a physical document

>> before doing O C R or to select a document to O C R - for example, a

>> file that was attached to an email, so is already in electronic form

>> but is not yet readable by NVDA.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> Each set of instructions to Omnipage is called a workflow - the one

>> you will normally want I have called "Scan to Word”.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> The way to run a scan is to start Omnipage from the TaskBar, using

>> Windows key plus T for Tango, then arrowing to Omnipage and pressing

>> Enter to start it.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> It seems that Omnipage does not remember which workflow you were using

>> last, so you need to change the workflow each time, as follows:

>> 

>> *       Load Omnipage.

>> *       Remove the document it has saved from the previous run, if any, by

>> pressing alt plus f then n.

>> *       Press No when asked to save it.

>> *       Select the correct workflow using alt plus p then w to open the workflows

>> list.

>> *       Arrow down to the one for “Scan to Word” and press Enter to select it.

>> *       Start the selected workflow using alt plus p then w then s - if you are

>> scanning, the scan will start.

>> *       N B  if you choose the workflow to O C R a file that you have saved

>> earlier (e.g. one which was attached to an email) you will be taken to

>> a File Explorer window, to choose it, with the current directory set

>> to Downloads, so it’s easiest if you save attachments in the Downloads folder.

>> *       Wait for the workflow to complete - for the scan workflow, click the "stop

>> loading pages" button.

>> *       NVDA seems not to speak, so alt plus tab out & back to start speech and

>> you should hear it speak the wording that has been recognised.

>> 

>> If NVDA refuses to speak, you can get Omnipage to voice the result.

>> After pressing caps lock plus S (twice) to turn NVDA speech off:

>> 

>> *       turn on Omnipage's speech mode by pressing F5 or alt plus t then s.

>> *       press ctrl plus end to hear the result spoken.

>> *       you can interrupt or stop Omnipage speech by pressing F.

>> *       after it finishes, turn NVDA speech back on with caps lock plus S.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 


Re: OCR

 

It is interesting to note that when I looked at the latest v13, while it used the abbyy and omnipage engines it may or may not use the latest engines as a release note said it used version9 of the abbyy engine and we are using software past version9 of the program, but maybe the engine is different.

On 12/01/2020 12:01 am, André wrote:
I am actually a little bit surprised. I used Kurzweil Educational
Systems 1000 with a scanner when I was in school 15 years ago. But at
the time, this ocr did a lot of mistakes, meaning that even quite common
characters  in plain text where often recognized falsely. In contrast to
that, Abby   FineReader has trouble only with special mathematical
symbols, or if the resolution of the image is very poor. Otherwise, I
have not yet encountered mistakes  with its OCR / I use version 14. But
maybe the Kurzweil OCR engine improved over the last years?



On 11/01/2020 07:35, Shaun Everiss wrote:
While in university, I tried the demo and liked it.

I couldn't afford the software so just cracked it with some serials
some guy gave me from somewhere.

I used it for the next 5 years.

My eventual plan then was to buy the software but when I upgraded to
the next windows version, that was one of the things I had to give up.

If I ever get a actual well paying contract or something or win loto
or something which gets me a load of cash though I'm going to buy it.

I found the program a seemless experience using both abbyy and
omnipage engines with braille translation and pdf viewing second to
none and it would always be the prefured scanner of choice.

I use abbyy fine reader and while that and knfb does work well enough,
I would prefur it as it saved my rear many times.



On 11/01/2020 5:57 pm, Monte Single wrote:
Yes,

It is a great program;  toobad the k 1000 costs a thousand dollars,
but loaded with bells and whistles.


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shaun Everiss
Sent: January-10-20 7:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR

Hmph.
I did not know that.
So I guess we can view the knfb reader is the kurzweil home version
with just basic scanning and ocr without the other stuff.
Now eventually I plan to get the regular k1000 as I used it at
university for various things, including braille conversion, and its
a really good program.

On 11/01/2020, Monte Single <mrsingle@...> wrote:
Hi Shaun,



The k in knfb  comes from Kurzweil.

The earliest versions of Kurzweil scanning software go back to the
seventies.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Shaun Everiss
Sent: January-10-20 4:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR



I have both abbyy and knfb I got knfb on convention week last year or
was it the year before when it was only 20 us it is a good program but
had no idea it works with a scanner.





On 11/01/2020 10:08 am, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi



The app I use on my windows 10 machine is KNFB reader and is very
accessible with nvda. it works with my flat bed scanner/printer and it
seems if you have a couple of computers with the same account and a
spare scanner it can be installed on the other computer as well.



I think also you can trial it 25 scans with some limitations then it
has to be brought. Not sure what price it is now I did not think it
was that bad may be 90 dollars kiwi on sale? You would ahve to see how
much in your language dollars but only works on windows 10.



Gene nz



On 10/01/2020 8:26 pm, Brian Crabtree wrote:

I don’t have any recent experience of Abbyy, but I set up Omnipage for
a friend in 2018 and he finds it works well with his flatbed scanner.



I set up two simple workflows using Omnipage itself (I can’t write
scripts) and he runs them using NVDA, rather than using the buttons
on the scanner.



What follows are my instructions on using the workflows, in case they
might help someone to choose between Abby and Omnipage. Here they are:



The workflows allow you to choose either to scan a physical document
before doing O C R or to select a document to O C R - for example, a
file that was attached to an email, so is already in electronic form
but is not yet readable by NVDA.



Each set of instructions to Omnipage is called a workflow - the one
you will normally want I have called "Scan to Word”.



The way to run a scan is to start Omnipage from the TaskBar, using
Windows key plus T for Tango, then arrowing to Omnipage and pressing
Enter to start it.



It seems that Omnipage does not remember which workflow you were using
last, so you need to change the workflow each time, as follows:

*    Load Omnipage.
*    Remove the document it has saved from the previous run, if any, by
pressing alt plus f then n.
*    Press No when asked to save it.
*    Select the correct workflow using alt plus p then w to open the
workflows
list.
*    Arrow down to the one for “Scan to Word” and press Enter to
select it.
*    Start the selected workflow using alt plus p then w then s - if
you are
scanning, the scan will start.
*    N B  if you choose the workflow to O C R a file that you have
saved
earlier (e.g. one which was attached to an email) you will be taken to
a File Explorer window, to choose it, with the current directory set
to Downloads, so it’s easiest if you save attachments in the
Downloads folder.
*    Wait for the workflow to complete - for the scan workflow,
click the "stop
loading pages" button.
*    NVDA seems not to speak, so alt plus tab out & back to start
speech and
you should hear it speak the wording that has been recognised.

If NVDA refuses to speak, you can get Omnipage to voice the result.
After pressing caps lock plus S (twice) to turn NVDA speech off:

*    turn on Omnipage's speech mode by pressing F5 or alt plus t
then s.
*    press ctrl plus end to hear the result spoken.
*    you can interrupt or stop Omnipage speech by pressing F.
*    after it finishes, turn NVDA speech back on with caps lock plus S.















--
Martin Wiemer

Grabensprung 185
12683 Berlin
Germany

Tel.: +49 178 715 66 76



.


Re: Thunderbird Address Book Question?

René Linke
 

Hi Jim,

Did you restart Thunderbird after updating it? That should be fixed then itself. Here it works everything with NVDA 2019.3 beta 1 and Thunderbird 68.4.1.
And did you switch to classic view?

René


Re: vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?

Rui Fontes
 

Mr. Afik, you have made a payment of 15 EUR, corresponding to a upgrade from
version 2.0 to 3.0.
As you do not have a valid version 2.0 license, we have refunded the
payment.

So, you have not bought a license.

If you want to continue this discussion, please make it in private to my
mail address, rui.fontes@...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.



-----Mensagem original-----
De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em Nome De Afik Souffir
Enviada: sábado, 11 de janeiro de 2020 17:34
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?


I bought it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?

As soon as you buy the license...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem original-----
De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em Nome De Afik Souffir
Enviada: sexta-feira, 10 de janeiro de 2020 12:31
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?


I'm using the lateen voices the most.
Hebrew text isn't the problem.

Can I get the file please?


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 2:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?

The Vocalizer Automotive uses a license file.

We did not sent you because this version do not have a Hebrew voice...

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem original-----
De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em Nome De Afik Souffir
Enviada: sexta-feira, 10 de janeiro de 2020 11:42
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?


What its mean license file?
How can I get it?


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 12:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?

Ciao Simone!

You can get it in:

https://www.tiflotecnia.net/en/downloads.htm

Best regards,


Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem original-----
De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em Nome De Simone Dal Maso
Enviada: sexta-feira, 10 de janeiro de 2020 09:47
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?

Hello,
I have the expressive driver for 2019.3, but I neeed the standard vocalizer
too.
Where can I download it?
thank you!


Re: some keyboard commands

Brice Mijares
 

No, but I'll go download it.

On 1/11/2020 9:30 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
And did you update this add-on by any chance? A few weeks ago I edited this add-on it make it compatible with NVDA 2019.3.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 9:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] some keyboard commands
Brian, I had that add on, and it stopped working after installing NVDA
19.3 beta. One more thing about NVDA that has been going on for quite some time, When within a folder selecting files to move delete
ETC. NVDA will at times not echo selected or unselected. Restarting NVDA remedies that issue.
Windows version: Windows 10Ver1909 (64-bit) build 18363.535 On 1/11/2020 8:15 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I knew I'd seen something that made these commands, and some others,
be announced, and a quick web search on "NVDA announce cut copy paste
commands" led me directly to:


Clipspeak - addons.nvda-project.org
<https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html>

I need to remember to follow my own advice and do a simple web
search for this sort of thing. If you give enough specific search
terms you get almost straight to the solution.

--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in
and out of favor.

~ Robert Frost, /The Black Cottage/ (1914)


Re: vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?

Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...>
 

I bought it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?

As soon as you buy the license...

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem original-----
De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em Nome De Afik Souffir
Enviada: sexta-feira, 10 de janeiro de 2020 12:31
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?


I'm using the lateen voices the most.
Hebrew text isn't the problem.

Can I get the file please?


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 2:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?

The Vocalizer Automotive uses a license file.

We did not sent you because this version do not have a Hebrew voice...

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem original-----
De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em Nome De Afik Souffir
Enviada: sexta-feira, 10 de janeiro de 2020 11:42
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?


What its mean license file?
How can I get it?


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 12:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?

Ciao Simone!

You can get it in:

https://www.tiflotecnia.net/en/downloads.htm

Best regards,


Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem original-----
De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em Nome De Simone Dal Maso
Enviada: sexta-feira, 10 de janeiro de 2020 09:47
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?

Hello,
I have the expressive driver for 2019.3, but I neeed the standard vocalizer
too.
Where can I download it?
thank you!


Re: some keyboard commands

Brice Mijares
 

That happened to me yesterday while copying some MP3's. They did not get copied to the clipboard and once I pasted them where I wanted them and if I wasn't paying attention, I could of have went back to the folder where I had copied them from and deleted them.

On 1/11/2020 8:25 AM, Gene wrote:
I have, on occasion, issued the copy command and it didn't work for some reason.  Sometimes, this or that command doesn't work for some reason and I have to issue it twice, such as opening Computer.
As I've said before, this can lead to a good deal of inconvenience.  If I've copied and pasted twenty files, then I copy and paste fifteen other files somewhere else, if the control c command doesn't work, I'll copy the twenty files I've already copied to the new location.  Then I must delete them all, go back, copy the new files again and paste them again.  it would be so much simpler if I heard something like copied when I use control c and I hear nothing if the command doesn't work.
There is an add-on which I have no idea if it will work in the beta or upcoming new version of NVDA, that allows you to hear such announcements.  It should be in the program itself, System Access does this, and JAWS does this.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Monte Single <mailto:mrsingle@...>
*Sent:* Saturday, January 11, 2020 10:12 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] some keyboard commands
I use cut, copy and paste a lot, every day.
Sometimes the paste command does not work, and that is because I did not make sure  I had the text or item selected.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Brian Vogel
*Sent:* January-11-20 9:57 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] some keyboard commands
Probably because it's generally not considered necessary (though I'll be shocked if someone doesn't come back saying there's a setting you can use to do just that).
Visually, you get no indicator that a copy has occurred, though a cut is obvious since something disappears and a paste is just as obvious because something appears.  That being said, the CTRL+C (copy), CTRL+X (cut), and CTRL+V (paste) commands are used so frequently and are, in my experience, 100% reliable or very close to it, and become such an automatic thing for keyboard shortcut users that announcement as a default would be auditory clutter.
--
Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363
Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.
         ~ Robert Frost, /The Black Cottage/ (1914)


Re: some keyboard commands

 

Hi,

In regards to compatibility (visiting an old thread), it ultimately depends on willingness from authors to respond to feedback from users.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 9:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] some keyboard commands

 

Fake clipboard announcement does what it says.  it says things like copied when you issue the command but it doesn't know if copying took place.  It is just programmed to say a word when a certain command is used.  I don't know what happends in the global plugin.  but will any of these plugins work with the upcoming new version of NVDA?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Rui Fontes

Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 10:30 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] some keyboard commands

 

There are others, like NVDAExtensionGlobalPlugin and FakeClipboardAnouncement, both working in my NVDA Alpha with Python 3…

 

Rui

 

De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em Nome De Brian Vogel
Enviada: sábado, 11 de janeiro de 2020 16:16
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] some keyboard commands

 

I knew I'd seen something that made these commands, and some others, be announced, and a quick web search on "NVDA announce cut copy paste commands" led me directly to:

Clipspeak - addons.nvda-project.org

I need to remember to follow my own advice and do a simple web search for this sort of thing.  If you give enough specific search terms you get almost straight to the solution.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

 

 


Re: some keyboard commands

Sarah k Alawami
 

Did you submit a bug report on that and diag logs if needed? If not I would do that now, or if and whenthe issue happens again.

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to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 11 Jan 2020, at 9:25, Brice Mijares wrote:

Brian, I had that add on, and it stopped working after installing NVDA 19.3 beta. One more thing about NVDA that has been going on for quite some time, When within a folder selecting files to move delete
ETC. NVDA will at times not echo selected or unselected. Restarting NVDA remedies that issue.
Windows version: Windows 10Ver1909 (64-bit) build 18363.535
On 1/11/2020 8:15 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:

I knew I'd seen something that made these commands, and some others, be announced, and a quick web search on "NVDA announce cut copy paste commands" led me directly to:


Clipspeak - addons.nvda-project.org
<https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html>

I need to remember to follow my own advice and do a simple web
search for this sort of thing.  If you give enough specific search
terms you get almost straight to the solution.

--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, /The Black Cottage/ (1914)


Re: some keyboard commands

 

Hi,
And did you update this add-on by any chance? A few weeks ago I edited this add-on it make it compatible with NVDA 2019.3.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 9:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] some keyboard commands

Brian, I had that add on, and it stopped working after installing NVDA
19.3 beta. One more thing about NVDA that has been going on for quite some time, When within a folder selecting files to move delete
ETC. NVDA will at times not echo selected or unselected. Restarting NVDA remedies that issue.
Windows version: Windows 10Ver1909 (64-bit) build 18363.535 On 1/11/2020 8:15 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I knew I'd seen something that made these commands, and some others,
be announced, and a quick web search on "NVDA announce cut copy paste
commands" led me directly to:


Clipspeak - addons.nvda-project.org
<https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html>

I need to remember to follow my own advice and do a simple web
search for this sort of thing. If you give enough specific search
terms you get almost straight to the solution.

--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in
and out of favor.

~ Robert Frost, /The Black Cottage/ (1914)


Re: some keyboard commands

Sarah k Alawami
 

This is why I work in two separate tabs as far as finder or explorer.exe are concerned. If I boo boo, I can undo, then go to the first tab and the 15 I meant to copy are still selected. I have sometimes 3 and 4 tabs open as I am doing some cut and copy operations to let's say keybase or a network drive, or another folder etc.

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On 11 Jan 2020, at 9:25, Gene wrote:

That's good to know but I could have saved the time and inconvenience of pasting the files in the first place if copy were or were not announced.  And I would also have to select the other files again, and copy and paste them again. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] some keyboard commands

On 11 Jan 2020, at 8:25, Gene wrote:

If I've copied and pasted twenty files, then I copy and paste fifteen other files somewhere else, if the control c command doesn't work, I'll copy the twenty files I've already copied to the new location.  Then I must delete them all, go back, copy the new files again and paste them again

Not really. There is always control z for undo, so you can just undo your boo boo and be done with it. I did that when I copied over about 2000 1k zip files I didn't need. Woops

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here


Re: some keyboard commands

Brice Mijares
 

Brian, I had that add on, and it stopped working after installing NVDA 19.3 beta. One more thing about NVDA that has been going on for quite some time, When within a folder selecting files to move delete
ETC. NVDA will at times not echo selected or unselected. Restarting NVDA remedies that issue.
Windows version: Windows 10Ver1909 (64-bit) build 18363.535

On 1/11/2020 8:15 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I knew I'd seen something that made these commands, and some others, be announced, and a quick web search on "NVDA announce cut copy paste commands" led me directly to:
Clipspeak - addons.nvda-project.org
<https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html>
I need to remember to follow my own advice and do a simple web
search for this sort of thing.  If you give enough specific search
terms you get almost straight to the solution.
--
Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363
Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.
         ~ Robert Frost, /The Black Cottage/ (1914)


Re: some keyboard commands

Gene
 

That's good to know but I could have saved the time and inconvenience of pasting the files in the first place if copy were or were not announced.  And I would also have to select the other files again, and copy and paste them again. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] some keyboard commands

On 11 Jan 2020, at 8:25, Gene wrote:

If I've copied and pasted twenty files, then I copy and paste fifteen other files somewhere else, if the control c command doesn't work, I'll copy the twenty files I've already copied to the new location.  Then I must delete them all, go back, copy the new files again and paste them again

Not really. There is always control z for undo, so you can just undo your boo boo and be done with it. I did that when I copied over about 2000 1k zip files I didn't need. Woops

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here