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Re: NVDA 2019.3 beta 2 now available

Rui Fontes
 

Please, go to:
%appdata%\vocalizer-for-nvda
and delete the activation.dat file.
Restart NVDA and reactivate the license.

Any problem, contact for:

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.

Greg Wocher <gwocher@...> escreveu no dia quinta, 16/01/2020 à(s) 11:48:

Hello,
I am still having issues with the vocalizer expressive driver. I am using this version and every time I restart NVDA it tells me that my vocalizer expressive license cannot be verified. I am running NVDA 2019.3 beta 2.

Greg Wocher


On Jan 15, 2020, at 7:45 PM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

Hello!
Sorry by the delay, but my PC died...

The direct link is:

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.

Andrea Sherry <sherryan@...> escreveu no dia quarta, 15/01/2020 à(s) 02:51:
Well where can I find the expressive driver to run with the latest beta?
Andreqa

On 15/01/2020 10:40 am, Quentin Christensen wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> NVDA 2019.3 beta 2 is now available for testing.
>
> This update adds a few new features and fixes from beta 1 including:
>
> - The new Windows console support using UI Automation is no longer
> used by default as it is not yet ready for production use. However, it
> is still available from NVDA’s advance settings panel. (#10684)
> - NVDA no longer freezes in the new version of Microsoft Edge that is
> based on Chromium. (#10675)
> - A short sound is now optionally played when screen curtain is turned
> on or off. (#10611)
> - Fixed an issue when upgrading configuration from recent alpha
> builds. (#10598)
> - Fixed an issue when navigating lists with table navigation commands.
> (#10623)
>
> For all the details and to download the new beta, please visit:
> https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta2-now-available-for-testing/
>
> As always, please do report any issues or bugs you encounter.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> --
>
> Quentin Christensen
> Training and Support Manager
>
> Web: www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>
>






Re: Dropbox interfering with NVDA when reading Word files

David Griffith
 

 

I copy below the email I sent earlier to the list

 

Not at all stupid Clive.

 

First of all

Windows plus B to get to the notification area / system tray.

If you hear notification chevron you should press space on that to open up all your system tray icons to view. You can change settings so that your icons

all show all the time but I will give instructions for that in another email if needed.

Now cursor left or right until you hear DropBox. If for whatever reason you miss this and hear notification chevron again then press space on this to make

sure all your icons are showing.

As soon as you hear DropBox press the space bar.

This should open up the context menu in DropBox’s case – it does on my system.

From this menu select preferences.

Tab down to the section where it talks about badges and set this to never show and your problems with opening Office documents should disappear.

 

N.>B. 

A regrettable feature of the system tray in Windows is that the key to open up the context menu varies. Sometimes it is enter, sometimes it is space

as in this case and sometimes it is the application key. You need to experiment with each icon to see what works.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: 16 January 2020 00:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox interfering with NVDA when reading Word files

 

Please let us know what solved the problem?

I don’t see the fix below in this thread.

Thank you,

Sam

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 5:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox interfering with NVDA when reading Word files

 

David, this seems to have solved the problem for me. Thanks.
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http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
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Re: NVDA 2019.3 beta 2 now available

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,
I am still having issues with the vocalizer expressive driver. I am using this version and every time I restart NVDA it tells me that my vocalizer expressive license cannot be verified. I am running NVDA 2019.3 beta 2.

Greg Wocher


On Jan 15, 2020, at 7:45 PM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

Hello!
Sorry by the delay, but my PC died...

The direct link is:

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.

Andrea Sherry <sherryan@...> escreveu no dia quarta, 15/01/2020 à(s) 02:51:
Well where can I find the expressive driver to run with the latest beta?
Andreqa

On 15/01/2020 10:40 am, Quentin Christensen wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> NVDA 2019.3 beta 2 is now available for testing.
>
> This update adds a few new features and fixes from beta 1 including:
>
> - The new Windows console support using UI Automation is no longer
> used by default as it is not yet ready for production use. However, it
> is still available from NVDA’s advance settings panel. (#10684)
> - NVDA no longer freezes in the new version of Microsoft Edge that is
> based on Chromium. (#10675)
> - A short sound is now optionally played when screen curtain is turned
> on or off. (#10611)
> - Fixed an issue when upgrading configuration from recent alpha
> builds. (#10598)
> - Fixed an issue when navigating lists with table navigation commands.
> (#10623)
>
> For all the details and to download the new beta, please visit:
> https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta2-now-available-for-testing/
>
> As always, please do report any issues or bugs you encounter.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> --
>
> Quentin Christensen
> Training and Support Manager
>
> Web: www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>
>






Re: Unread/Read Status of Messages Broken In Thunderbird With 2019.3 Beta 2

Clive Lever
 

Sorry if this has been covered before, but I notice that when I'm reading the list of folders in my inbox (Outlook, Office 365), in Jaws, it tells me how many unread messages there are in the folder. NVDA doesn't do this, to my knowledge. If it can say the total number of unread messages the way Jaws does, please can someone tell me how to make it do so? It's particularly useful when, say, I come back from holiday to hundreds of messages, as it tells me when the backlog is cleared.

Thanks,
Clive

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 7:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unread/Read Status of Messages Broken In Thunderbird With 2019.3 Beta 2

I'm on 68.3.1 with NVDA 2019.3 beta 2 and all message flags are read as usual.

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Donnerstag, 16. Januar 2020 01:13
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unread/Read Status of Messages Broken In Thunderbird With 2019.3 Beta 2

The last version of Thunderbird that reads the status line and the read/unread status of messages properly is 60.9 or 60 something.


On 1/15/2020 1:06 PM, John Isige wrote:
I just downloaded NVDA 2019.3beta2 and told it to continue running. I'm
running Thunderbird 60.9.1, 32-bit if it matters. Message statuses work
fine for me with up and down arrows, I didn't even have to close and
restart Thunderbird. What do you mean by saying "last fully compatible
version"? What's broken? I admit I use Thunderbird pretty minimally, but
everything seems fine to me.


On 1/15/2020 9:56, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

For some reason, when I installed 2019.3 beta 2, when I read the
status line and/or navigate with up/down arrow keys, the read/unread
status of message is inconsistent or incorrect.

I wonder if anyone else is experiencing this issue. I am using
Thunderbird 60.4--the last fully compatible version of Thunderbird.


--
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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Accessible text expantion tools.

 

There is no fully accessible text expansion tool that will cover the whole OS. I've been looking for years, and it seems like none exists. The closest thing you will get is buying NCH's FastFox expansion software. But even that is not fully accessible.

Of course, you could always use autocorrect in Microsoft Word, cut, and copy the text, but I'd like one that works universally, myself and is fully accessible. Sadly, no fully accessible option exists.


Accessible text expantion tools.

Ali Colak
 

Hello everyone,
Are their any text expantion tools accessible with NVDA? I've just
tried one called Phraise express, and while it is somewhat usable it
is not completely accessible. I know of some more options but I
thought I'd ask if anyone here had something to recommend.

Thanks
ALi


Re: screen search

Gene
 

A screen search is using something such as in JAWS, the JAWS cursor to search the current screen.  NVDA has no way to do this without using an add-on, but there is an add-on that allows you to virtualize the current window and thus, search the screen using the NVDA search command, control NVDA key f in desktop layout.  I don't know the laptop layout. 
 
I don't know the answer to the original question.  I played with the add-on briefly and I didn't see such an option, but also, I wasn't looking, though I doubt it's there.  I would suggest keeping a record in something like Notepad of previous search strings.  You may have to type them manually there, but that may be the only way to do what you want to do.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] screen search

Hi


What do you mean by screen search.


You do not mean like do a search of a web page?


If that is the case use the nvda key + ctrl key + the letter f when the dialogue box comes up enter in your search term. there is also a combo box that will tell you your last 20 searches etc Can not remember if they can be saved?


Gene nz


On 16/01/2020 12:02 pm, Darren Harris via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi all,

 

Is there a way of using nvda to do a screen search whereby you can also store multiple search strings so you can access them at any given time?


In-Process is out

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

The first In-Process for the year is here!

Featuring news on NVDA 2019.3 beta2, who should update and lots more, get it first here: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-16th-january/

Quentin.
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: new beta2

Quentin Christensen
 

In fairness, it's not a stable update yet so users on 2019.2.1 won't see it when they have NVDA check for updates.  You'll only find it that way if you were on Beta 1.

And just for the record btw, beta 1 will update to beta 2, then any subsequent betas, then Release Candidate 1, and any subsequent release candidates.  Finally any of those builds will update to NVDA 2019.3.  That way anyone testing out the beta or release candidate builds, doesn't need to specifically move back to the stable channel.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 5:29 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
Yes, there is an update. Pay more attention and you'll see it.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of anthony
borg
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 9:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new beta2

I already did that but there isn't any updates yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie
Chavarria
Sent: 15 January 2020 23:59
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new beta2

You can go to the NVDA help menu and arrow down to "check for updates". Then
follow the prompts.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of anthony
borg
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 11:02 AM
To: Anthony Borg <anthonyborg001@...>
Subject: [nvda] new beta2

Hi folks can
Can anyone tell me from wher I can download the newbeta2 please?
Thanks in advancee

Anthony

















--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: website

Rayn Darren
 

Apologies for missing the OP here... Kerryn, if you need help building, gimme a shout :)

Sarah

On 1/15/2020 10:21 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Kerryn,

We would request you please link to NV Access to download, because if you
link to https://www.nvaccess.org/download/ the user will always get the
current version.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 7:31 AM Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness=
yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:

guys
i want to build a website, i want to use nvda download links for
link for downloading nvda
and the link for the official nvda add on site

can i do this?




Re: Alternatives to Excel

Luke Davis
 

I used Open Office Calc (their version of Excel) for years with quite a bit of success with NVDA.

People say that LibreOffice is better now, and I can not comment on that since I haven't used it, but OOo was fine for my spreadsheet needs for a very long time.
I never had problems opening spreadsheets from other sources.

Without knowing more about how you use spreadsheets, it's hard to say whether what you want to do can be done accessibly, but the nice thing is that their both free, so you can play with each.

Because I needed better word processing, I bought a recycled office 2019 key early last year for around $25, but if spreadsheets were my only concern, I would have remained with OpenOffice.

Luke

On Wed, 15 Jan 2020, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi
A hard disk crash has seen off my copy of Excel 2007 so I'm looking
for an alternative amongst Open Office, Libra Office and Google. Are
there any NVDA users out there that could give me feedback regarding
the accessibility of these products and whether I could still access
my existing Excel format spreadsheets with any or all of them? Your
advice would be greatly appreciated.


screen search again

Darren Harris
 

Ok so I tried the incert ctrl plus f command. That works but if there’s a combo box to show previous search strings I can’t seem to find them.

 

Any help here?


Re: Help getting NVDA to read descriptions of elements in SVGs

Luke Davis
 

May I suggest you raise an issue about this on https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues
This seems connected to other things that have been pointed out there, and which elements NVDA reads is certainly a development matter.

You might also point it out on the devel list (nvda-devel@groups.io https://groups.io/g/nvda-devel)

Luke

On Wed, 15 Jan 2020, Paddy Uglow wrote:

Well, that’s interesting – I’ve been following the Edge update thread as well (thanks for the upgrade link)
NVDA with Edge Chromium JUST reads the aria-label text on this page and ignores the <foreignobject> content
https://www.creativemedia.org.uk/interactive-trees/filtration-tryout.html
…whereas Chrome JUST reads the contents of the <foreignobject> tag and ignores the aria-label.


Re: Unread/Read Status of Messages Broken In Thunderbird With 2019.3 Beta 2

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

I'm on 68.3.1 with NVDA 2019.3 beta 2 and all message flags are read as usual.

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Donnerstag, 16. Januar 2020 01:13
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unread/Read Status of Messages Broken In Thunderbird With 2019.3 Beta 2

The last version of Thunderbird that reads the status line and the read/unread status of messages properly is 60.9 or 60 something.


On 1/15/2020 1:06 PM, John Isige wrote:
I just downloaded NVDA 2019.3beta2 and told it to continue running. I'm
running Thunderbird 60.9.1, 32-bit if it matters. Message statuses work
fine for me with up and down arrows, I didn't even have to close and
restart Thunderbird. What do you mean by saying "last fully compatible
version"? What's broken? I admit I use Thunderbird pretty minimally, but
everything seems fine to me.


On 1/15/2020 9:56, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,

For some reason, when I installed 2019.3 beta 2, when I read the
status line and/or navigate with up/down arrow keys, the read/unread
status of message is inconsistent or incorrect.

I wonder if anyone else is experiencing this issue. I am using
Thunderbird 60.4--the last fully compatible version of Thunderbird.


--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: new beta2

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Yes, there is an update. Pay more attention and you'll see it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of anthony
borg
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 9:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new beta2

I already did that but there isn't any updates yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie
Chavarria
Sent: 15 January 2020 23:59
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new beta2

You can go to the NVDA help menu and arrow down to "check for updates". Then
follow the prompts.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of anthony
borg
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 11:02 AM
To: Anthony Borg <anthonyborg001@...>
Subject: [nvda] new beta2

Hi folks can
Can anyone tell me from wher I can download the newbeta2 please?
Thanks in advancee

Anthony


Re: new beta2

Quentin Christensen
 

Good afternoon,

Please find all the information and the link to download from this post: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta2-now-available-for-testing/

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 6:02 AM anthony borg <anthonyborg001@...> wrote:
Hi folks can
Can anyone tell me from wher I can download the newbeta2 please?
Thanks in advancee

Anthony






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: website

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Kerryn,

We would request you please link to NV Access to download, because if you link to https://www.nvaccess.org/download/ the user will always get the current version.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 7:31 AM Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:
guys
i want to build a website, i want to use nvda download links for
link for downloading nvda
and the link for the official nvda add on site
 
can i do this?
 



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: new beta2

anthony borg
 

I already did that but there isn't any updates yet.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie
Chavarria
Sent: 15 January 2020 23:59
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new beta2

You can go to the NVDA help menu and arrow down to "check for updates". Then
follow the prompts.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of anthony
borg
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 11:02 AM
To: Anthony Borg <anthonyborg001@...>
Subject: [nvda] new beta2

Hi folks can
Can anyone tell me from wher I can download the newbeta2 please?
Thanks in advancee

Anthony


Re: edge showstopper maybe

Sarah k Alawami
 

Exactgly. I move to have shawn band form this list as well. And yes I am calling him out publicly. This is why I hardly post on this list because of the thoughtless dribble he posts, it is just utter crap and utter nonsense.

Take care and blessings. And enjoy the new edge. Can't wait to get my hands on it on mac os. It rocks there.

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On 15 Jan 2020, at 14:23, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:

Yes, good post and really this is just more of the same dribble that we have had over on the windows10 list.

On 15/01/2020 21:02, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 02:44 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

still by mentioning the words alpha or beta it implies something that is
makeshift, not secure, not stable, could trash windows, could do who knows
what.

Neither of which is accurate in the world of software development.

Alpha is simply in the earliest stages of development, and may be unstable, but seldom if ever is any of the other things.

Beta is considered to be quite stable, and things released as beta by commercial and many open source entities are considered to be possible release candidates, but will not actually be designated as such until a beta has been used "in the wild" long enough to show that there are not unsuspected issues, most of which would be minor, but possibly annoying.

Alpha software carries a high risk for possible annoyance and failure of that software itself, and very seldom takes anything else along with it.

Beta software can generally be thought of as being stable, with some possible refinements at the periphery that may be needed.   It's not uncommon for something to go from beta to release sans any changes, either.

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Re: screen search

Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo
 

what they mean is like in jaws screenreader a thang called reSerchIt
the nvda version jaws has it NVDA's vda version of reserchIt.

On 1/15/20, hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi


What do you mean by screen search.


You do not mean like do a search of a web page?


If that is the case use the nvda key + ctrl key + the letter f when the
dialogue box comes up enter in your search term. there is also a combo
box that will tell you your last 20 searches etc Can not remember if
they can be saved?


Gene nz


On 16/01/2020 12:02 pm, Darren Harris via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi all,

Is there a way of using nvda to do a screen search whereby you can
also store multiple search strings so you can access them at any given
time?