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Re: Purchasing Eloquence

Gene
 

Check the settings in the actual Eloquence program itself.  I've used the demo but I didn't work with the settings enough to remember how you get to this one.  But in the settings for the voices themselves, there is a force setting.  Make sure it is off.  Force causes the voices to disregard screen-reader settings and use settings for the voices themselves.  It is off by default but yours may be on for some reason.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 8:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence

I just purchased mine and no matter what I do if I press NVDA+ctrl+the arrow keys the changes do not take affect. If I press NVDA+ctrl+v and make changes they are not taking affect. Only when I open Sappi5 eloquence. On Code factory’s page I don’t recall seeing a choice between Sappi5 and NVDA. Only   eloquence for windows.

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

From: John Isige
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 1:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence

 

Uh, no you don't. I can make those changes from the synth settings ring

or the menus just fine. You've been able to do that since I bought it,

and I think I'm up to version 1.6.6 or something. Unless they made a new

version and broke something in the last month or so, you should be able

to change settings without opening Eloquence. I only open mine if I need

to deactivate before a major Windows update, and reactivate afterwards.

 

 

On 1/10/2020 0:16, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

> What I am noticing is that with the Sappi voice you lose the ability

> to change speed, volume, pitch and rate. You have to open Eloquence to

> make those  changes.

> ******

> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for

> you!

> *From: *coccinelle@... <mailto:coccinelle@...>

> *Sent: *Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:27 PM

> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence

> Is there a difference between the NVDA and the SAPI voices?

> Thanks

> Blessings

> Pascal

> *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Shaun

> Everiss

> *Sent:* Thursday, January 9, 2020 4:56 PM

> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io

> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence

> atguys.com has both the nvda and sapi versions.

> Their support is good.

> On 10/01/2020 10:51 am, Dan Kerstetter wrote:

>     Hello all.

>     Where is the best place from which to purchase the Eloquence

>     speech synthesizer?  I’ve been to the code factory site;

>     downloaded eloquence from their app store, but don’t know how to

>     register/purchase it.

>     Any help, info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

>     Thanks in advance.

>     For an hour of good alternative and classic rock tune in to my

>     show:  A Little Bit of This and a Little Bit of That  Monday at

>     5:00 eastern and Tuesday and Friday 8:00 eastern on out of sight

>     radio.

>     http://www.out-of-sight.net/radio

>

 

 

 


Re: OCR

 

Well if you have one of those scanners you probably have a stripped down abbyy sprint or omnipage anyway.

In the end I decided to get fine reader 15.

Its extremely accessible, a few buttons and a couple list columns.

My main issues are that combo boxes such as those in options do not read when scroling, and the menus especially the file menu lag quite a load and some items don't read or don't always read though those that do do have shortcut keys.

All dialogs seem to work extremely well and it was worth the upgrade.

Output of the ocr is quite good.

Sadly the ocr editer ariea is not really that accessible but even so its an improvement from v 14 at any rate.

I am also on the offer and marketing list so if there are any promos who knows.

My brother scanner also has paperport which looks to be a full version and may or may not work for me I havn't really tried that though it looks accessible.



On 11/01/2020 1:31 am, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

Quentin,

 

I use a Canon Flatbed scanner, Canon CanoScan LiDE 120, and the Canon software itself traps the scanned image as Jason describes here. That image file appears to be perfect, according to those who receive it from me as an image .PDF. On those occasions when I need access to the image file myself, I save it and open it with abbyyy Finereader which then converts it to whatever readable format I need.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 12:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR

 

ABBYY will work with a hardware scanner as well. Alternatively, you could scan the pages to images in a PDF file before running the OCR process. Actually, some scanners generate PDF output directly, saving the file to a USB drive or sending it to you via email. However, so far as I know, none of these devices is likely to be very accessible. In my work environment, they are the modern alternative to photocopiers – someone can just process a series of pages and receive a PDF via email directly from the device.

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Quentin Christensen <quentin@...>
Reply-To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 20:40
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR

 

I was more thinking of OCR to use with a hardware scanner.  Sorry, I didn't expand on that thought originally :)

 

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 11:25 AM Jason White via Groups.Io <jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io> wrote:

ABBYY was updated last year. I haven’t yet purchased the upgrade, so can’t comment on the latest version. It handles document formatting well, including headings and footnotes from scanned images of journal articles.

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of "Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io" <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io>
Reply-To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 18:48
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR

 

i use abby

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:19 PM

Subject: [nvda] OCR

 

Good morning,

 

Has anyone compared OCR software lately?   I had someone ask about Omnipage 20.  I know a few people use Abbyy Finereader, but I wasn't sure how they compare or what other options are out there currently.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


Re: Purchasing Eloquence

Gene
 

Do you mean you have to open NVDA settings or Eloquence settings?  There are both options.  I don't set such settings using the NVDA settings ring but I never had problems doing so opening NVDA settings and changing them there.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence

What I am noticing is that with the Sappi voice you lose the ability to change speed, volume, pitch and rate. You have to open Eloquence to make those  changes.

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

From: coccinelle@...
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence

 

Is there a difference between the NVDA and the SAPI voices?

Thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 4:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence

 

atguys.com has both the nvda and sapi versions.

Their support is good.

 

 

On 10/01/2020 10:51 am, Dan Kerstetter wrote:

Hello all.

 

Where is the best place from which to purchase the Eloquence speech synthesizer?  I’ve been to the code factory site; downloaded eloquence from their app store, but don’t know how to register/purchase it.

 

Any help, info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

For an hour of good alternative and classic rock tune in to my show:  A Little Bit of This and a Little Bit of That  Monday at 5:00 eastern and Tuesday and Friday 8:00 eastern on out of sight radio.

 

http://www.out-of-sight.net/radio

 

 


Re: Purchasing Eloquence

Gene
 

If you want to use the MSAPI voices with more than one program, you may do so.  The NVDA add-on only works with NVDA.  I have the impression that the price is about the same. 
 
Also, the NVDA add-on allows you to use another series of voices, that, while you may like them, I consider very annoying, as I do most of the newer synthesized speech.  But if you want more voices for your money, usable only with NVDA, you will get that.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2020 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence

Is there a difference between the NVDA and the SAPI voices?

Thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 4:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence

 

atguys.com has both the nvda and sapi versions.

Their support is good.

 

 

On 10/01/2020 10:51 am, Dan Kerstetter wrote:

Hello all.

 

Where is the best place from which to purchase the Eloquence speech synthesizer?  I’ve been to the code factory site; downloaded eloquence from their app store, but don’t know how to register/purchase it.

 

Any help, info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

For an hour of good alternative and classic rock tune in to my show:  A Little Bit of This and a Little Bit of That  Monday at 5:00 eastern and Tuesday and Friday 8:00 eastern on out of sight radio.

 

http://www.out-of-sight.net/radio

 


Re: ocr solutions

Gene
 

How old is your OCR program and how well does it work currently?  I haven't followed this for many years but for a good while, I found that upgrades may have improved marginal scanning situations but that much of the time, for most scanning under good conditions, the upgrades made little or no difference. 
 
Or are you upgrading because what you were using doesn't run in Windows 10, which is unlikely?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2020 6:06 PM
Subject: [nvda] ocr solutions

Hi.

Just wandering what ocr solutions people use.

I use abbyy fine reader and its mostly ok but access wize I have
wandered at it of late.

the latest version will cost me 190 instead of the 300 or so dollars for
a new version and I could easily upgrade it.

Right now omnipage standard costs me 192 nz right now, then again, what
do people use.

I want something that is accessible which will do ocr and scanning,
images, pdfs, paper documents.


Is it worth the upgrade of fine reader or should I switch to omnipage or
what.





Re: Purchasing Eloquence

Pascal Lambert
 

Hi,

I just downloaded the Code Factory Eloquent NVDA add-on NVDA and installed it.  I selected Tom voice and installed it.  However, I am unable to install any other voice to try and compare.  

Any feedback is appreciated.

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 9:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence

 

I just purchased mine and no matter what I do if I press NVDA+ctrl+the arrow keys the changes do not take affect. If I press NVDA+ctrl+v and make changes they are not taking affect. Only when I open Sappi5 eloquence. On Code factory’s page I don’t recall seeing a choice between Sappi5 and NVDA. Only   eloquence for windows.

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

From: John Isige
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 1:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence

 

Uh, no you don't. I can make those changes from the synth settings ring

or the menus just fine. You've been able to do that since I bought it,

and I think I'm up to version 1.6.6 or something. Unless they made a new

version and broke something in the last month or so, you should be able

to change settings without opening Eloquence. I only open mine if I need

to deactivate before a major Windows update, and reactivate afterwards.

 

 

On 1/10/2020 0:16, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

> What I am noticing is that with the Sappi voice you lose the ability

> to change speed, volume, pitch and rate. You have to open Eloquence to

> make those  changes.

> ******

> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for

> you!

> *From: *coccinelle@... <mailto:coccinelle@...>

> *Sent: *Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:27 PM

> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence

> Is there a difference between the NVDA and the SAPI voices?

> Thanks

> Blessings

> Pascal

> *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Shaun

> Everiss

> *Sent:* Thursday, January 9, 2020 4:56 PM

> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io

> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence

> atguys.com has both the nvda and sapi versions.

> Their support is good.

> On 10/01/2020 10:51 am, Dan Kerstetter wrote:

>     Hello all.

>     Where is the best place from which to purchase the Eloquence

>     speech synthesizer?  I’ve been to the code factory site;

>     downloaded eloquence from their app store, but don’t know how to

>     register/purchase it.

>     Any help, info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

>     Thanks in advance.

>     For an hour of good alternative and classic rock tune in to my

>     show:  A Little Bit of This and a Little Bit of That  Monday at

>     5:00 eastern and Tuesday and Friday 8:00 eastern on out of sight

>     radio.

>     http://www.out-of-sight.net/radio

>

 

 

 


Re: Purchasing Eloquence

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I just purchased mine and no matter what I do if I press NVDA+ctrl+the arrow keys the changes do not take affect. If I press NVDA+ctrl+v and make changes they are not taking affect. Only when I open Sappi5 eloquence. On Code factory’s page I don’t recall seeing a choice between Sappi5 and NVDA. Only   eloquence for windows.

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

From: John Isige
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 1:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence

 

Uh, no you don't. I can make those changes from the synth settings ring

or the menus just fine. You've been able to do that since I bought it,

and I think I'm up to version 1.6.6 or something. Unless they made a new

version and broke something in the last month or so, you should be able

to change settings without opening Eloquence. I only open mine if I need

to deactivate before a major Windows update, and reactivate afterwards.

 

 

On 1/10/2020 0:16, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

> What I am noticing is that with the Sappi voice you lose the ability

> to change speed, volume, pitch and rate. You have to open Eloquence to

> make those  changes.

> ******

> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for

> you!

> *From: *coccinelle@... <mailto:coccinelle@...>

> *Sent: *Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:27 PM

> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence

> Is there a difference between the NVDA and the SAPI voices?

> Thanks

> Blessings

> Pascal

> *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Shaun

> Everiss

> *Sent:* Thursday, January 9, 2020 4:56 PM

> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io

> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence

> atguys.com has both the nvda and sapi versions.

> Their support is good.

> On 10/01/2020 10:51 am, Dan Kerstetter wrote:

>     Hello all.

>     Where is the best place from which to purchase the Eloquence

>     speech synthesizer?  I’ve been to the code factory site;

>     downloaded eloquence from their app store, but don’t know how to

>     register/purchase it.

>     Any help, info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

>     Thanks in advance.

>     For an hour of good alternative and classic rock tune in to my

>     show:  A Little Bit of This and a Little Bit of That  Monday at

>     5:00 eastern and Tuesday and Friday 8:00 eastern on out of sight

>     radio.

>     http://www.out-of-sight.net/radio

>

 

 

 


Re: OCR

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Quentin,

 

I use a Canon Flatbed scanner, Canon CanoScan LiDE 120, and the Canon software itself traps the scanned image as Jason describes here. That image file appears to be perfect, according to those who receive it from me as an image .PDF. On those occasions when I need access to the image file myself, I save it and open it with abbyyy Finereader which then converts it to whatever readable format I need.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jason White via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 12:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR

 

ABBYY will work with a hardware scanner as well. Alternatively, you could scan the pages to images in a PDF file before running the OCR process. Actually, some scanners generate PDF output directly, saving the file to a USB drive or sending it to you via email. However, so far as I know, none of these devices is likely to be very accessible. In my work environment, they are the modern alternative to photocopiers – someone can just process a series of pages and receive a PDF via email directly from the device.

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Quentin Christensen <quentin@...>
Reply-To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 20:40
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR

 

I was more thinking of OCR to use with a hardware scanner.  Sorry, I didn't expand on that thought originally :)

 

On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 11:25 AM Jason White via Groups.Io <jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io> wrote:

ABBYY was updated last year. I haven’t yet purchased the upgrade, so can’t comment on the latest version. It handles document formatting well, including headings and footnotes from scanned images of journal articles.

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of "Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io" <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io>
Reply-To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 at 18:48
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR

 

i use abby

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 7:19 PM

Subject: [nvda] OCR

 

Good morning,

 

Has anyone compared OCR software lately?   I had someone ask about Omnipage 20.  I know a few people use Abbyy Finereader, but I wasn't sure how they compare or what other options are out there currently.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 


Re: vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?

Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...>
 

I'm using the lateen voices the most.
Hebrew text isn't the problem.

Can I get the file please?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 2:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?

The Vocalizer Automotive uses a license file.

We did not sent you because this version do not have a Hebrew voice...

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem original-----
De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em Nome De Afik Souffir
Enviada: sexta-feira, 10 de janeiro de 2020 11:42
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?


What its mean license file?
How can I get it?


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 12:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?

Ciao Simone!

You can get it in:

https://www.tiflotecnia.net/en/downloads.htm

Best regards,


Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem original-----
De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em Nome De Simone Dal Maso
Enviada: sexta-feira, 10 de janeiro de 2020 09:47
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?

Hello,
I have the expressive driver for 2019.3, but I neeed the standard vocalizer
too.
Where can I download it?
thank you!


Re: vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?

Rui Fontes
 

The Vocalizer Automotive uses a license file.

We did not sent you because this version do not have a Hebrew voice...

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem original-----
De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em Nome De Afik Souffir
Enviada: sexta-feira, 10 de janeiro de 2020 11:42
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?


What its mean license file?
How can I get it?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 12:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?

Ciao Simone!

You can get it in:

https://www.tiflotecnia.net/en/downloads.htm

Best regards,


Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem original-----
De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em Nome De Simone Dal Maso
Enviada: sexta-feira, 10 de janeiro de 2020 09:47
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?

Hello,
I have the expressive driver for 2019.3, but I neeed the standard vocalizer
too.
Where can I download it?
thank you!


Re: vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?

Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...>
 

What its mean license file?
How can I get it?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 12:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?

Ciao Simone!

You can get it in:

https://www.tiflotecnia.net/en/downloads.htm

Best regards,


Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem original-----
De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em Nome De Simone Dal Maso
Enviada: sexta-feira, 10 de janeiro de 2020 09:47
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?

Hello,
I have the expressive driver for 2019.3, but I neeed the standard vocalizer
too.
Where can I download it?
thank you!


Re: vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?

Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...>
 

Hi;

You forgot the Carmit Hebrew voice?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 12:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?

Ciao Simone!

You can get it in:

https://www.tiflotecnia.net/en/downloads.htm

Best regards,


Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem original-----
De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em Nome De Simone Dal Maso
Enviada: sexta-feira, 10 de janeiro de 2020 09:47
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?

Hello,
I have the expressive driver for 2019.3, but I neeed the standard vocalizer
too.
Where can I download it?
thank you!


Re: vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?

Rui Fontes
 

Ciao Simone!

You can get it in:

https://www.tiflotecnia.net/en/downloads.htm

Best regards,


Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem original-----
De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em Nome De Simone Dal Maso
Enviada: sexta-feira, 10 de janeiro de 2020 09:47
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?

Hello,
I have the expressive driver for 2019.3, but I neeed the standard vocalizer
too.
Where can I download it?
thank you!


vocalizer standard link for nvda 2019.3?

Simone Dal Maso
 

Hello,
I have the expressive driver for 2019.3, but I neeed the standard vocalizer too.
Where can I download it?
thank you!


Re: OCR

Aravind R
 

Get image descriptions on Chrome
When you use a screen reader in Chrome, you can get descriptions of
unlabeled images, for example, images that don’t have alt text.
Images are sent to Google to create the descriptions. If Google cannot
describe an image, the screen reader will say “No description
available.”
Note: Image descriptions are only in English, even if your browser is
in a different language.
Turn Image Descriptions on or off
You can turn image descriptions on in Chrome Settings or in the context menu.
Turn on image descriptions from Google in the context menu
You can turn on image descriptions for all pages or for just one specific page.
1. On your computer, open Chrome browser.
2. Open the context menu.

Windows: Shift+F10.

Mac: VoiceOver+Shift+ m or Ctrl + Alt + Shift + m.

Chrome OS: Search+m.
3. Use the up or down arrow keys to select "Get Image Descriptions from Google"
4. Use the right or left arrow to open the image description menu.
5. When you turn image descriptions on or off, you may be asked to
agree to image descriptions from Google. Turn image descriptions on or
off:

For one page: Press space to select Just once.

For all pages: Press space to select Always.
If you had image descriptions allowed for only one page, leave or
refresh the page to turn it off.
If you turn on image descriptions for all pages, there will be a check
mark next to the option “Get image descriptions from Google” in the
context menu.
If you are signed-in and syncing to Chrome, you’ll have image
descriptions on all signed-in and synced devices.
Turn on image descriptions in Chrome settings
You can also turn image descriptions for all pages on and off in
Chrome settings. Image descriptions for all pages work the same way if
they are turned on in settings or the context menu.
1. On your computer, open Chrome.
2. Next to the address bar, select More More and then Settings.
3. At the bottom of the Settings page, click Advanced.
4. Under “Accessibility,” turn “Get image descriptions from Google” on or off.
You’ll see a checkmark next to “Get image descriptions from Google” if
you have the feature on.
Image descriptions are only available to screen reader users through
spoken feedback or braille, and do not visually appear on the screen.
The image descriptions may not be fully accurate.

On 10/01/2020, Simone Dal Maso <simone.dalmaso@...> wrote:
Robert, what is Chrome OCR?
I don't know this feature.





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Re: OCR

Simone Dal Maso
 

Robert, what is Chrome OCR?
I don't know this feature.


Re: Purchasing Eloquence

John Isige
 

Uh, no you don't. I can make those changes from the synth settings ring
or the menus just fine. You've been able to do that since I bought it,
and I think I'm up to version 1.6.6 or something. Unless they made a new
version and broke something in the last month or so, you should be able
to change settings without opening Eloquence. I only open mine if I need
to deactivate before a major Windows update, and reactivate afterwards.

On 1/10/2020 0:16, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

What I am noticing is that with the Sappi voice you lose the ability
to change speed, volume, pitch and rate. You have to open Eloquence to
make those  changes.

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for
you!

*From: *coccinelle@... <mailto:coccinelle@...>
*Sent: *Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:27 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence

Is there a difference between the NVDA and the SAPI voices?

Thanks

Blessings

Pascal

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Shaun
Everiss
*Sent:* Thursday, January 9, 2020 4:56 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence

atguys.com has both the nvda and sapi versions.

Their support is good.

On 10/01/2020 10:51 am, Dan Kerstetter wrote:

Hello all.

Where is the best place from which to purchase the Eloquence
speech synthesizer?  I’ve been to the code factory site;
downloaded eloquence from their app store, but don’t know how to
register/purchase it.

Any help, info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

For an hour of good alternative and classic rock tune in to my
show:  A Little Bit of This and a Little Bit of That  Monday at
5:00 eastern and Tuesday and Friday 8:00 eastern on out of sight
radio.

http://www.out-of-sight.net/radio


Re: OCR

Brian Crabtree
 

I don’t have any recent experience of Abbyy, but I set up Omnipage for a friend in 2018 and he finds it works well with his flatbed scanner. 

I set up two simple workflows using Omnipage itself (I can’t write scripts) and he runs them using NVDA, rather than using the buttons on the scanner. 

What follows are my instructions on using the workflows, in case they might help someone to choose between Abby and Omnipage. Here they are:

The workflows allow you to choose either to scan a physical document before doing O C R or to select a document to O C R - for example, a file that was attached to an email, so is already in electronic form but is not yet readable by NVDA.

Each set of instructions to Omnipage is called a workflow - the one you will normally want I have called "Scan to Word”. 

The way to run a scan is to start Omnipage from the TaskBar, using Windows key plus T for Tango, then arrowing to Omnipage and pressing Enter to start it.

It seems that Omnipage does not remember which workflow you were using last, so you need to change the workflow each time, as follows:
  • Load Omnipage.
  • Remove the document it has saved from the previous run, if any, by pressing alt plus f then n.
  • Press No when asked to save it.
  • Select the correct workflow using alt plus p then w to open the workflows list.
  • Arrow down to the one for “Scan to Word” and press Enter to select it.
  • Start the selected workflow using alt plus p then w then s - if you are scanning, the scan will start.
  • N B  if you choose the workflow to O C R a file that you have saved earlier (e.g. one which was attached to an email) you will be taken to a File Explorer window, to choose it, with the current directory set to Downloads, so it’s easiest if you save attachments in the Downloads folder.
  • Wait for the workflow to complete - for the scan workflow, click the "stop loading pages" button.
  • NVDA seems not to speak, so alt plus tab out & back to start speech and you should hear it speak the wording that has been recognised.
If NVDA refuses to speak, you can get Omnipage to voice the result. After pressing caps lock plus S (twice) to turn NVDA speech off:
  • turn on Omnipage's speech mode by pressing F5 or alt plus t then s.
  • press ctrl plus end to hear the result spoken.
  • you can interrupt or stop Omnipage speech by pressing F.
  • after it finishes, turn NVDA speech back on with caps lock plus S.



Re: Purchasing Eloquence

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

What I am noticing is that with the Sappi voice you lose the ability to change speed, volume, pitch and rate. You have to open Eloquence to make those  changes.

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

From: coccinelle@...
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 5:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence

 

Is there a difference between the NVDA and the SAPI voices?

Thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 4:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence

 

atguys.com has both the nvda and sapi versions.

Their support is good.

 

 

On 10/01/2020 10:51 am, Dan Kerstetter wrote:

Hello all.

 

Where is the best place from which to purchase the Eloquence speech synthesizer?  I’ve been to the code factory site; downloaded eloquence from their app store, but don’t know how to register/purchase it.

 

Any help, info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

For an hour of good alternative and classic rock tune in to my show:  A Little Bit of This and a Little Bit of That  Monday at 5:00 eastern and Tuesday and Friday 8:00 eastern on out of sight radio.

 

http://www.out-of-sight.net/radio

 

 


Re: Purchasing Eloquence

Pascal Lambert
 

Is there a difference between the NVDA and the SAPI voices?

Thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, January 9, 2020 4:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Purchasing Eloquence

 

atguys.com has both the nvda and sapi versions.

Their support is good.

 

 

On 10/01/2020 10:51 am, Dan Kerstetter wrote:

Hello all.

 

Where is the best place from which to purchase the Eloquence speech synthesizer?  I’ve been to the code factory site; downloaded eloquence from their app store, but don’t know how to register/purchase it.

 

Any help, info or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

For an hour of good alternative and classic rock tune in to my show:  A Little Bit of This and a Little Bit of That  Monday at 5:00 eastern and Tuesday and Friday 8:00 eastern on out of sight radio.

 

http://www.out-of-sight.net/radio