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Problem with 2019.3 in explorer and chrome
Mahmood HoZhabri <mahmood.hojabri@...>
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Re: I think NVDA has a memory leak or something
Dan Beaver
No, I am running 2019.3. This is later/newer than 2018.
Dan Beaver On 3/9/2020 4:45 AM, zahra wrote:
i thought this problem is fixed in nvda 2018.1 by fixing https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7818 did you test with for example 2017 versions of nvda? On 3/9/20, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@...> wrote:I am running 2019.3 on a windows 10 laptop. I was jumping around in some Firefox pages and had been doing so for about 30 minutes or so. I went through a lot of pages. After a while my system suddenly became very sluggish and then almost locked up. It also started blowing more hot air than usual and I had to power down and reboot to get it to straighten up. It is running cool again and no sluggishness. Any thoughts? -- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) -- Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
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Re: I think NVDA has a memory leak or something
i thought this problem is fixed in nvda 2018.1 by fixing
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https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7818 did you test with for example 2017 versions of nvda?
On 3/9/20, Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@gmail.com> wrote:
I am running 2019.3 on a windows 10 laptop. --
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How to read column headers in excel
Ramesh Patil
How to read column headers in excel while navingating below cells.
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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.03.1 emergency hotfix
#addonrelease
Hi all, As a follow-up: you’ll still hear “copy” and other editing functions. A general fix will be sent to NV Access for review in the next 24 hours or so (recovering from two days of speech tournaments). Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, March 8, 2020 10:28 PM To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.03.1 emergency hotfix #AddonRelease
Hi all,
Windows 10 App Essentials 20.03.1 is now available. This quick fix release resolves a reported issue where NVDA will say “delete back word” when you press Control+Backspace when using recent Word 365 releases. Cheers, Joseph
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Windows 10 App Essentials 20.03.1 emergency hotfix
#addonrelease
Hi all,
Windows 10 App Essentials 20.03.1 is now available. This quick fix release resolves a reported issue where NVDA will say “delete back word” when you press Control+Backspace when using recent Word 365 releases. Cheers, Joseph
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Re: NVDA saying unknown in treeview inn thunder bird
I can confirm this, a restart o TBird does the trick, then it never happens again. I dunno where I got that advice but it is good advice. Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there. For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
On 8 Mar 2020, at 16:14, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
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Re: New Computer- problems with NVDA response
On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 08:54 PM, Anna Givens wrote:
and I got it from Walmart.Then I would return it, promptly, as they have one of the best "no questions asked" return policies on computers. Get another if this is a model that appeals to you. No new machine should be giving you this kind of problem. Also, there is no easy fix, period, for this sort of thing and trying to find one would require a lot of effort on your part as well as that of potential assistants. You should not have a brand new machine behaving in this way, period. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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Re: New Computer- problems with NVDA response
Anna Givens
I appreciate all the suggestions. But I don’t want to do all these things. I bought a new computer and there’s nothing I have done or anything that’a on here that would warrant this extreme sluggishness. I have had multiple computers before and used them in the same way and used them just fine. I simply need it to work, not to reformat things and change things. Can someone suggest who to call or where to take it? It’s Lenovo, it uses Windows, and I got it from Walmart. So I don’t know who to talk to. I don’t know if it only has problems when running NVDA, I can’t tell, and nobody around to help me figure that out. It did have issues when running narrator when I first got it though. I know that. Although I don’t know if it was because of narrator or had anything to do with it at all. Anna
On Mar 8, 2020, at 8:14 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
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Re: New Computer- problems with NVDA response
Jackie
Well, of course, 1 way to confirm or negate NVDA's role in all of this
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is to not let it start up automatically & use Narrator instead. The voice used does have an impact on the machine's responsiveness, w/voices like Eloquence or ESpeak being considerably snappier than 1core or most other SAPI5 voices. I'm just wondering if there's a chance that Windows Defender & Mcafee are trying to run at the same time, which can *really* bugger up the works totally.
On 3/8/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 08:01 PM, Gene wrote:I can't speak to that. Some it would, some it wouldn't. --
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Re: New Computer- problems with NVDA response
On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 08:01 PM, Gene wrote:
But in this case, would that violate the warranty in case there is something wrong with the machine?I can't speak to that. Some it would, some it wouldn't. In any case, for about the first 30 days (give or take) I rely upon the retailer taking a return for a defective machine. When I originally suggested this be taken here to the NVDA main forum, the information available made it sound like the crankiness was limited to NVDA. If it's broader than just NVDA, that's really pointing to something else entirely. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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Re: New Computer- problems with NVDA response
Gene
But in this case, would that violate the warranty
in case there is something wrong with the machine? the description doesn't
sound like any performance variations that would be expected if the machine is
working properly.
Gene
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From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2020 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Fwdnew computer- problems with NVDA
response It gets the cleanest instance of Windows 10 available, as well as the most recent one. I will generally then reinstall the OEM's "service station" type utility, e.g., HP Support Assistant, afterward, as these are genuinely helpful in keeping your drivers and BIOS/UEFI up to date. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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Re: New Computer- problems with NVDA response
Even though I doubt that bloatware is at all a factor, I am a big believer in Doing a Completely Clean (Re)install of Windows 10 Using Media Creation Tool to Fetch the Win10 ISO File or, if you prefer, Doing a Completely Clean (Re)install of Windows 10 Using Media Creation Tool to Create Bootable Win10 Install Media on a USB Thumb Drive.
It gets the cleanest instance of Windows 10 available, as well as the most recent one. I will generally then reinstall the OEM's "service station" type utility, e.g., HP Support Assistant, afterward, as these are genuinely helpful in keeping your drivers and BIOS/UEFI up to date. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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Re: New Computer- problems with NVDA response
On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 05:36 PM, Anna Givens wrote:
I just bought the subscription for McAfee, so not wanting to take it off. Why would I need to?And if they give you 30 days to turn it back in, my recommendation is that you do. Over the last several years there have been multiple, and sometimes repeated for a given brand, issues with 3rd party security suites and Windows 10. Windows Defender, as implemented under Windows 8 and 10, lands in the top tier of security suites consistently, and is more than just adequate protection. -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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Re: New Computer- problems with NVDA response
Gene
I really doubt that bloatware is the cause, or the
major cause of this problem. I'm not advocating removing or not removing
it. But the original message indicates a computer operating so slowly that
I wonder if it is defective and should be returned. Also, in the chat
group, Brian Vogel indicated that the processor is much more powerful than any
of the uses asked about by the user would warrant. Maybe not just a
return, but saving a good deal of money is in order by exchanging the machine
for a much less expensive one. the original message says something like
that when you down arrow or tab, about seven seconds later, you hear the next
line being spoken. If bloatware or anything typical of manufactured
computers were slowing the machine down that much and did so for other
manufactured machines, the manufacture would either go bankrupt or would have to
dramatically change what is put on machines.
The person says that she can see enough to read the
screen somewhat. Can you judge anything about how the computer is
functioning when NVDA isn't running? How about when Narrator is
running? Is the poor performance only seen with NVDA or in
tgeneral?
Gene
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From: Jackie
Sent: Sunday, March 08, 2020 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Fwdnew computer- problems with NVDA
response couple reasons. The first is that being able to update one's hardware is sometimes not only a good idea but necessary. The 2nd is simply that doing a 2r, ie, reformat & reinstall, is an awful lot of work, though having thus said, it's easier when you've just gotten a new machine than after you've had it awhile. Anna, to answer your question regarding Mcaffee, it's not accessible w/a screen reader & it tends to slow down computers more than other solutions, specifically Windows Defender. Beyond that, Windows Defender is actually rated better than Mcafee in independent tests. & it's free. I truly wish you hadn't paid for a subscription. Because Mcafee is owned by Intel now, it always comes bundled w/PC's having an Intel chipset, but other vendors bundle it as well. I'm sure there's always some kind of remuneration in place for subscriptions purchased. When I used to be a Fed, 1 of our favorite sayings, if not our most favorite 1, was "follow the money." On 3/8/20, Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote: > Hi Anna. The problem with PCs that are branded is that they come to us > accompanied with bloatware, software that are supposed to tune up these > brands and models to work propperly, which is clearly not the case. > More irritating is that they take up resources that you might need, for > example, for our screen readers to work properly. It is unfortunate > that PCs are by default made for the sighted market. I too have a > Lenovo, but what I did after I got the pc was to clean format the pc > with a new windows 10 installation, totally clean and without any of the > annoying bloatware that we obviously can't access and don't need. My > Lenovo runs smoothly after I took that step. Give it a try to see if it > works for you. Since NVDA is having so much problem helping you access > your pc at this moment, you have nothing to lose anyway. Cheers! > > On 3/9/2020 3:51 AM, Anna Givens wrote: >> I posted this in the NVDA chat list, and was advised to post it here >> in the main list: >> >> I just got a new computer. Ando had issues with the initial setup, >> like when the computer first turned on the very first time and it was >> asking me to get things set up, and it had voice already- I guess it >> was narrator, it would stop responding and had to keep restarting >> multiple times. And then when setup process was finished I have had >> the following issue. Not sure if I should contact someone, and if so >> who. Or is there something that is just related to NVDA or what. >> Help and ideas are greatly appreciated. I got this computer through >> Walmart, by the way. >> >>> I am pasting the info of the computer I got. And hoping someone could >>> help me figure out what to do. NVDA is installed and I have had >>> problems. A lot of the time NVDA just doesn’t talk or it responds >>> very very slowly, for example I press tab or down arrow on a website, >>> or on desktop or wherever and after 7-8 >>> <x-apple-data-detectors://0>seconds it speaks next line or item... >>> also, when this happens I have only one application running, or it’s >>> on desktop and have nothing open. >>> Ideas?? >>> >>> Here’s the computer- >>> >>> Lenovo Ideapad 330s 15.6" Laptop, Windows 10, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U >>> Quad-Core Processor, 8GB Memory, 256GB Storage, Platinum Grey - >>> 81FB00HKUS >>> >>> Meet the Lenovo IdeaPad 330S. Thinner and lighter with narrow bezels >>> for broader viewing, it boasts state-of-the-art processing and >>> accelerated graphics performance. Featuring an AMD Ryzen 5 2500U >>> Quad-Core processor, Integrated Radeon Vega 8 graphics, 8GB DDR4 2400 >>> MHz RAM (4GB OnBoard + 4GB DIMM) memory, and 256GB PCIe SSD internal >>> storage, this powerful laptop has all the essentials you need to >>> tackle your day. Its 15.6-inch HD IPS LED backlit anti-glare display >>> and Dolby Audio Premium speakers ensure gorgeously sharp images and >>> crystal-clear sound whether you're out at the office or relaxing at >>> home. Plus, with a battery life of up to seven hours, you can take on >>> a whole to-do list before you even need to think about finding the >>> nearest outlet to plug into. Power through any task with ease on the >>> Lenovo IdeaPad 330S. >>> >>> >>> *Lenovo Ideapad 330s 15.6" Laptop, Windows 10, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U >>> Quad-Core Processor, 8GB Memory, 256GB Storage, Platinum Grey - >>> 81FB00HKUS:* >>> >>> * Operating system: Windows 10 >>> * Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 2500U Quad-Core Processor >>> * Display: 15.6" HD IPS LED Backlit Anti-Glare Display >>> * Memory: 8GB DDR4 2400 MHz RAM (4GB OnBoard + 4GB DIMM) >>> * Internal storage: 256GB PCIe SSD Storage >>> * Graphics: Integrated Radeon Vega 8 Graphics >>> * Optical Drive: None >>> * Battery Life: Up to 7 Hours >>> * Audio: 2 x 2W Speakers with Dolby Audio Premium >>> * Wireless: 802.11AC Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 4.1 Combo >>> * Webcam: Front-Facing HD Webcam with integrated dual array microphone >>> * Product weight: 3.96 lbs >>> * Color: Platinum Grey >>> >>> Warnings >>> Arrow >>> Specifications >>> Arrow >>> *Processor Type* >>> AMD Ryzen 5 >>> >>> *Hard Drive Capacity* >>> 256 GB >>> >>> *Condition* >>> New >>> >>> *Processor Speed* >>> 2 GHz >>> >>> *manufacturer_part_number* >>> 81fb00hkus >>> >>> *Wireless Technology* >>> 802.11AC Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 4.1 Combo >>> >>> *RAM Memory* >>> 8 GB >>> >>> *Maximum RAM Supported* >>> 8 GB >>> >>> *Operating System* >>> Windows 10 >>> >>> *Battery Life* >>> 7 h >>> >>> *Model* >>> 81FB00HKUS >>> >>> *Screen Size* >>> 15.6" >>> >>> *Brand* >>> Lenovo >>> >>> >>> Thank you all so much. >>> >>> Anna >>> >>>> On Mar 8, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Anna Givens <annajee82@...> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanka so much everybody! >>>> >>>> I am pasting the info of the computer I got. And hoping someone >>>> could help me figure out what to do. NVDA is installed and I have >>>> had problems. A lot of the time NVDA just doesn’t talk or it >>>> responds very very slowly, for example I press tab or down arrow on >>>> a website, or on desktop or wherever and after 7-8 seconds it speaks >>>> next line or item... >>>> Ideas?? >>>> >>>> Thank you all so much. >>>> >>>> Anna >> > > > > -- Subscribe to a WordPress for Newbies Mailing List by sending a message to: wp4newbs-request@... with 'subscribe' in the Subject field OR by visiting the list page at http://www.freelists.org/list/wp4newbs & check out my sites at www.brighter-vision.com & www.mysitesbeenhacked.com
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NVDA saying unknown in treeview inn thunder bird
hurrikennyandopo ...
Hi guys
has any one else noticed after you open thunder bird then tab a couple of times until you hear nvda say treeview you hear the word unknown? If I do not have audio themes turned on it acts as normal and reads out tree view. It does not seem to happen unless I turn on a add on called audio themes. If audio themes is enabled at times I will hear nvda say unknown when I get to tree view When it says unknown it will not let you do really any ting unless you tab or shift/tab back. Some times a restart of nvda will put it back to normal or even turning it off then back on then it might start again. But if disabled then nvda turned off then on again it does not seem to happen. At present it is disabled and does not seem to happen. Can any others who use that add on confirm when enabled it happens? I have not set up any type of profile for it either just installed it this is with nvda 2019.3 and windows 10 version 1909 Gene nz
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Re: New Computer- problems with NVDA response
Jackie
That's pretty mercinary, Jaffar, lol. I don't quite do that for a
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couple reasons. The first is that being able to update one's hardware is sometimes not only a good idea but necessary. The 2nd is simply that doing a 2r, ie, reformat & reinstall, is an awful lot of work, though having thus said, it's easier when you've just gotten a new machine than after you've had it awhile. Anna, to answer your question regarding Mcaffee, it's not accessible w/a screen reader & it tends to slow down computers more than other solutions, specifically Windows Defender. Beyond that, Windows Defender is actually rated better than Mcafee in independent tests. & it's free. I truly wish you hadn't paid for a subscription. Because Mcafee is owned by Intel now, it always comes bundled w/PC's having an Intel chipset, but other vendors bundle it as well. I'm sure there's always some kind of remuneration in place for subscriptions purchased. When I used to be a Fed, 1 of our favorite sayings, if not our most favorite 1, was "follow the money."
On 3/8/20, Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Anna. The problem with PCs that are branded is that they come to us --
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Re: New Computer- problems with NVDA response
Monte Single
I purchased a used hp computer from amazon about 8 months ago. The machine had obviously been reformatted and a new copy of win 10 pro installed; there was nothing on the computer beside the win 10 installation; nothing to do with hp. I never thought I would have a branded machine I felt good about.
sFrom: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Hi Anna. The problem with PCs that are branded is that they come to us accompanied with bloatware, software that are supposed to tune up these brands and models to work propperly, which is clearly not the case. More irritating is that they take up resources that you might need, for example, for our screen readers to work properly. It is unfortunate that PCs are by default made for the sighted market. I too have a Lenovo, but what I did after I got the pc was to clean format the pc with a new windows 10 installation, totally clean and without any of the annoying bloatware that we obviously can't access and don't need. My Lenovo runs smoothly after I took that step. Give it a try to see if it works for you. Since NVDA is having so much problem helping you access your pc at this moment, you have nothing to lose anyway. Cheers!
On 3/9/2020 3:51 AM, Anna Givens wrote:
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Re: New Computer- problems with NVDA response
Jaffar Sidek
Hi Anna. The problem with PCs that are branded is that they come
to us accompanied with bloatware, software that are supposed to
tune up these brands and models to work propperly, which is
clearly not the case. More irritating is that they take up
resources that you might need, for example, for our screen readers
to work properly. It is unfortunate that PCs are by default made
for the sighted market. I too have a Lenovo, but what I did after
I got the pc was to clean format the pc with a new windows 10
installation, totally clean and without any of the annoying
bloatware that we obviously can't access and don't need. My
Lenovo runs smoothly after I took that step. Give it a try to see
if it works for you. Since NVDA is having so much problem helping
you access your pc at this moment, you have nothing to lose
anyway. Cheers!
On 3/9/2020 3:51 AM, Anna Givens wrote:
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Re: New Computer- problems with NVDA response
hurrikennyandopo ...
Hi
Some times when stuff like that happens your sound enhancements might be turned on and in most cases turning it off fixes these problems.
I copied and pasted this from my website check to see if it is on then turn it off. this was done on a windows 10 machine 1909 but should be similar in earlier versions?
Disabling sound enhancements in Windows
Gene nz
On 9/03/2020 8:51 am, Anna Givens
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