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Re: office 2019 word and nvda

Luke Davis
 

Sorry, I mis-spoke. I was referring to the core devs (Reef, Mic).

On Fri, 17 Jul 2020, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
Actually, devs do monitor this list (I do, and so does Quentin).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 3:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] office 2019 word and nvda

Rowen and all

If you want to contribute to this problem getting solved, please post your experiences on the issue created for it. The devs do not monitor this list.
There is one senior user reporting on the issue that Office 365 does not have this problem.
If your experience is otherwise (this goes for everyone), please take the time to mention it on the official bug tracker, and follow any trouble shooting steps that are recommended there.

The link again is: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/11391

It's not hard to do, and it's very accessible.


Re: office 2019 word and nvda

 

Hi,
Actually, devs do monitor this list (I do, and so does Quentin).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 3:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] office 2019 word and nvda

Rowen and all

If you want to contribute to this problem getting solved, please post your experiences on the issue created for it. The devs do not monitor this list.
There is one senior user reporting on the issue that Office 365 does not have this problem.
If your experience is otherwise (this goes for everyone), please take the time to mention it on the official bug tracker, and follow any trouble shooting steps that are recommended there.

The link again is: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/11391

It's not hard to do, and it's very accessible.

Luke

On Fri, 17 Jul 2020, rowen brian wrote:

I am using office365, Confirm that this problem exists. The content of
the start menu will not be read after closing Word. It also won't read the contents of Explorer. Reopening Word will not read. The version I tested is NVDA2020.2RC1, Office365 Version 2006 (Build 13001.20266).


Re: office 2019 word and nvda

Luke Davis
 

Rowen and all

If you want to contribute to this problem getting solved, please post your experiences on the issue created for it. The devs do not monitor this list.
There is one senior user reporting on the issue that Office 365 does not have this problem.
If your experience is otherwise (this goes for everyone), please take the time to mention it on the official bug tracker, and follow any trouble shooting steps that are recommended there.

The link again is: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/11391

It's not hard to do, and it's very accessible.

Luke

On Fri, 17 Jul 2020, rowen brian wrote:

I am using office365, Confirm that this problem exists. The content of the start menu will not be read after closing Word. It also won't read the contents
of Explorer. Reopening Word will not read. The version I tested is NVDA2020.2RC1, Office365 Version 2006 (Build 13001.20266).


Re: strange little problem using nvda help and whats new.

Kevin Cussick
 

settings apps default apps and edge. ff is no more so it doesn't matter. and as I said edge was the default. I changed it to ff then put it back but it still opened in ff.

On 16/07/2020 22:32, Chris via groups.io wrote:
I know what you said, if the browser that is opening is not your default then that is your default, I don't know what or where you are checking your defaults but obviously it's not correct, You could check by clicking one of the links in this email and see what browser opens then

On 16 Jul 2020, at 22:10, Kevin Cussick via groups.io <the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:

I have said it was I checked before posting thanks.

On 16/07/2020 22:08, Chris via groups.io wrote:
If firefox is opening then edge cannot be your default browser
*From: *Kevin Cussick via groups.io <mailto:the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io>
*Sent: *16 July 2020 22:02
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] strange little problem using nvda help and whats new.
Hi, thanks for this will do it but just got rid of firefox.
On 16/07/2020 18:56, CARLOS-ESTEBAN wrote:
Hello.
You need to configure Edge for open files *.htm and *.html.
Regards.
Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.
Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios con discapacidad visual en el
uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología.
Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

Musicien (pianist) and also help to users with a visual disability in
the use of screen readers and technology.
Certified expert in screen reader NVDA.



El mié., 15 de jul. de 2020 a la(s) 15:49, Kevin Cussick via groups.io
<http://groups.io> (the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io
<mailto:googlemail.com@groups.io>) escribió:

Hi all, I have MS edge as the default browser, but each time I hit
nvda h then the letter n for WATS new firefox opens why? and Yes it is
set to edge as default.





Re: amazing tip from you guys on the task manager

Dan Beaver
 

Oh, I see a bit better now.  I thought it was a feature outside of task mgr. 


Thanks.


Dan Beaver

On 7/17/2020 3:15 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 03:10 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:
Is it the process which is using the most resources, the process at the top of the list, etc?
What it shows you depends on how you've selected certain things.  Presuming the More Details view is active, you'll see all processes on running on the computer.  These are going to be presented as far as resource use based on which of the system resource columns (CPU, Memory, Disk, Network, GPU - in that order from left to right after the process name) you have selected to sort on.  I have no idea which is the default, as I'm constantly switching which resource I'm looking at depending on whatever issue I suspect I have.  The three I use most frequently are CPU, Disk, & Memory.

There are tons of tutorials out there on using Task Manager, and it would be worth your while to read one or more if you want to get into all the details.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

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Re: amazing tip from you guys on the task manager

 

On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 03:10 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:
Is it the process which is using the most resources, the process at the top of the list, etc?
What it shows you depends on how you've selected certain things.  Presuming the More Details view is active, you'll see all processes on running on the computer.  These are going to be presented as far as resource use based on which of the system resource columns (CPU, Memory, Disk, Network, GPU - in that order from left to right after the process name) you have selected to sort on.  I have no idea which is the default, as I'm constantly switching which resource I'm looking at depending on whatever issue I suspect I have.  The three I use most frequently are CPU, Disk, & Memory.

There are tons of tutorials out there on using Task Manager, and it would be worth your while to read one or more if you want to get into all the details.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: amazing tip from you guys on the task manager

Dan Beaver
 

Ok, I still am unsure what this is supposed to be showing me.  Is it the process which is using the most resources, the process at the top of the list, etc?


Thanks.


Dan Beaver

On 7/17/2020 3:02 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 02:46 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:
Ok all,  what is it supposed to do?  I tried it and it showed me one process that was running but no other processes.
You must activate the "More Details" control at the bottom if you want all processes (whether yours or not) to be displayed.  This will also toggle the "More Details" control to a "Fewer Details" control.  The toggle keeps between invocations unless you toggle it again, so once you've chosen the "More Details" view, it should stick unless you were to change it back.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


Re: amazing tip from you guys on the task manager

 

On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 02:46 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:
Ok all,  what is it supposed to do?  I tried it and it showed me one process that was running but no other processes.
You must activate the "More Details" control at the bottom if you want all processes (whether yours or not) to be displayed.  This will also toggle the "More Details" control to a "Fewer Details" control.  The toggle keeps between invocations unless you toggle it again, so once you've chosen the "More Details" view, it should stick unless you were to change it back.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: amazing tip from you guys on the task manager

Dan Beaver
 

Ok all,  what is it supposed to do?  I tried it and it showed me one process that was running but no other processes.


Thanks.


Dan Beaver

On 7/17/2020 1:16 PM, JM Casey wrote:

Have used ctrl-shift-escape since switching from XP to Windows 10 at home (!). not sure how old the keystroke is but when I replaced Task manager with Process Explorer, the keystroke invoked that as well.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Fresh Start
Sent: July 16, 2020 10:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] amazing tip from you guys on the task manager

 

I have been using windows since it’s beginnings and never heard of control shift ane escape.  I’ve always used alt control delete.  Thanks for the alternative method.

 

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Re: amazing tip from you guys on the task manager

JM Casey
 

Have used ctrl-shift-escape since switching from XP to Windows 10 at home (!). not sure how old the keystroke is but when I replaced Task manager with Process Explorer, the keystroke invoked that as well.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Fresh Start
Sent: July 16, 2020 10:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] amazing tip from you guys on the task manager

 

I have been using windows since it’s beginnings and never heard of control shift ane escape.  I’ve always used alt control delete.  Thanks for the alternative method.

 

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Re: Control Alt N Not Working to Open NVDA

Chris Mullins
 

Hi David

Could you get your student to find the NVDA entry on the Desktop then press Alt+enter.  This will open the properties window for the shortcut where you can tab to the shortcut hotkey key control to check if it is properly set.  If it is not set, with focus on the hotkey control, press the letter n (Windows will automatically add the Control+Alt part), then tab to OK and press enter.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: David Kingsbury
Sent: 17 July 2020 14:18
To: 'NVDA Discussion List'
Subject: [nvda] Control Alt N Not Working to Open NVDA

 

Hi all,

 

I am working with a student who, when she hits Control Alt N to open NVDA, nothing happens. Same thing with hitting Control Alt J to open JAWS. I know that it is set correctly in settings, so that is not the problem. Any idea what the problem might be? Does it have anything to do with updating drivers or something like that? If so, what do you do?

 

Any assistance is appreciated.

 

Thanks,

David    

 

 


Re: Control Alt N Not Working to Open NVDA

Gene
 

There is a setting in Windows 10 and I don't recall if it prevents short cuts from being placed on the desktop or if it prevents short cut keys from being assigned. I haven't seen it discussed for ;perhaps six months or more. Is there an extension on the desktop? If you open the properties for that extension and tab around, do you see the shortcut key in the field where it should be?

If you start tabbing around, don’t go back or ;press any other key but tab. When you get to the cancel button, activate it with the space bar.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Hareth
Sent: Friday, July 17, 2020 10:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Control Alt N Not Working to Open NVDA

Hitting the hotkey twice in quick succession works most of the times,
if once didn't.
SS

On 7/17/20, David Kingsbury <davidkingsbury77@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,



I am working with a student who, when she hits Control Alt N to open NVDA,
nothing happens. Same thing with hitting Control Alt J to open JAWS. I know
that it is set correctly in settings, so that is not the problem. Any idea
what the problem might be? Does it have anything to do with updating
drivers
or something like that? If so, what do you do?



Any assistance is appreciated.



Thanks,

David







Re: Control Alt N Not Working to Open NVDA

 

Have you restarted the computer?

All triggering of programs via shortcuts is handled via Windows, so the issue lies there.  Sometimes a restart is all it takes to clear whatever "constipation" Windows happens to be experiencing at the moment.  And if you don't know whether or not Fast Startup is enabled, and we're talking a Windows 10 machine, definitely use Restart as that's the only way you can be certain that Windows will be reloaded from disc from scratch when things come back up.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Control Alt N Not Working to Open NVDA

Hareth
 

Hitting the hotkey twice in quick succession works most of the times,
if once didn't.
SS

On 7/17/20, David Kingsbury <davidkingsbury77@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,



I am working with a student who, when she hits Control Alt N to open NVDA,
nothing happens. Same thing with hitting Control Alt J to open JAWS. I know
that it is set correctly in settings, so that is not the problem. Any idea
what the problem might be? Does it have anything to do with updating
drivers
or something like that? If so, what do you do?



Any assistance is appreciated.



Thanks,

David







Re: Minor thing — NVDA and Windows Hello

rowen brian <manchen0528@...>
 

My situation is exactly the same as yours


Re: office 2019 word and nvda

rowen brian <manchen0528@...>
 

I am using office365, Confirm that this problem exists. The content of the start menu will not be read after closing Word. It also won't read the contents of Explorer. Reopening Word will not read. The version I tested is NVDA2020.2RC1, Office365 Version 2006 (Build 13001.20266).


Control Alt N Not Working to Open NVDA

David Kingsbury
 

Hi all,

 

I am working with a student who, when she hits Control Alt N to open NVDA, nothing happens. Same thing with hitting Control Alt J to open JAWS. I know that it is set correctly in settings, so that is not the problem. Any idea what the problem might be? Does it have anything to do with updating drivers or something like that? If so, what do you do?

 

Any assistance is appreciated.

 

Thanks,

David    

 


Re: McAfee Antivirus does not work with NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

Normally I remove the McAfee programs using the NVDA OCR feature...


Rui Fontes

NVDA portuguese team


Às 11:43 de 17/07/2020, Robert Doc Wright godfearer escreveu:

How do you get rid of Macafee
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Berry" <sb356607@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] McAffee Antivirus does not work with NVDA


It does work with JAWS and there is really no reason why it couldn't
work with NVDA.



On 7/16/2020 7:11 AM, Gene wrote:
That's not surprising. Increasing numbers of antivirus programs don't
work with screen-readers. It may work with JAWS; you might want to
try JAWS to see but I'm far from optimistic.

If you are using Windows 10, Windows Defender is highly rated and well
thought of. If Malware Bytes is still accessible, you may want to use
that as well.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Scott Berry
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 7:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] McAffee Antivirus does not work with NVDA

Hello there,


It looks as though the new McAffee antivirus doesn't work with N'Vda.
It simply says: "Chrome: Cannot read old Chrome."










Re: McAfee Antivirus does not work with NVDA

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

How do you get rid of Macafee

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Berry" <sb356607@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] McAffee Antivirus does not work with NVDA


It does work with JAWS and there is really no reason why it couldn't
work with NVDA.



On 7/16/2020 7:11 AM, Gene wrote:
That's not surprising. Increasing numbers of antivirus programs don't
work with screen-readers. It may work with JAWS; you might want to
try JAWS to see but I'm far from optimistic.

If you are using Windows 10, Windows Defender is highly rated and well
thought of. If Malware Bytes is still accessible, you may want to use
that as well.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Scott Berry
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 7:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] McAffee Antivirus does not work with NVDA

Hello there,


It looks as though the new McAffee antivirus doesn't work with N'Vda.
It simply says: "Chrome: Cannot read old Chrome."







Re: nvda or JAWSnot using the default sound card

Gene
 

Any time you connect a USB sound card, it is the default. there is no reason to do this for playback settings. In terms of recording settings, you set a specific source as the default, not the entire sound card. for example, in the list of recording devices, you may see something under the external sound card like, line-in. If you want that to be the default, you would set that as the default.

The question is, how do you get JAWS and NVDA to reliably play through the sound card you want. there are settings in the screen-readers themselves that direct the audio to the sound card you want.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Laughing Thunder
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 11:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda or JAWSnot using the default sound card

Try this.


Press the windows key plus R to open the run dialogue.
Enter the following into the text field without the quotes. “control /name microsoft.sound”
Press enter or tab to the OK button and click on it. At this point, the windows sound properties dialog should open.
In the sound properties dialogue, on the playback tab, which should be the tab selected by default, ensure that your external sound card output is set as the default. To do that, use your arrow keys to select it from the list, or have someone with eyesight click on it to select it. Then, right click on it, and choose set as default. Right click on it again, and this time click on set as default communication device. If none of those options show up in the menu after you right click, then the sound card is already set as default.

I hope that these steps will help you. You can also set the default on the recording tab in the same way. This should help ensure that your system always sends audio to the external sound card.




On Jul 16, 2020, at 8:47 PM, Fresh Start <dan@jvillefreshstart.org> wrote:





Greetings all, I have encountered a never before experienced audio issue.

I bought a Lenovo computer with Windows ten home on it to use only for audio editing. The onboard card, realtech, was one of those with only one jack. It was suppose to be an input and output combo which apparently is common on newer computers.

This did not work well when I sent my mixer through it. So I bought a new Creative sound blaster FX card. I have set this as the system default. Disabled the realtech card. Set NVDA to use this the Creative sound blaster FX card under preferences, settings, speech etc. The CD player and all windows sounds come through this card. But NVDA or JAWS will not. Not even narrator.

A very interesting thing happened when I uninstalled NVDA and reinstalled to see if that is the problem. The usual welcome music that comes on when NVDA is installing played. When finished. It would not speak. My sighted wife helped me uninstall and reinstall NVDA. I then tried installing JAWS from my original disc. All went fine since my wife was doing all the clicking. But again, when finished, no screen reader speech. I Found an article by Jonathan Mosen from 2018 where it was suggested to use a program called Silenzio written by Stefan Kiss. It sends sound to the card to prevent it from sleeping. But I don’t think the card is hibernating. The windows functions make sounds and CD player sends music to the Creative sound blaster FX card. So do any of you wizards have an idea what to do? This is a Windows ten computer with 12 gb of ram, a SSD one terabyte storage drive and an extra one for storage.





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