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locked creating internet shortcuts with firefox

azeesh rahman <ajrahman1144@...>
 

hi. can anyone help me with creating an internet shortcut on my desktop with Firefox using nvda.

Re: Formatting on a Braille Display

Vincent Le Goff <vincent.legoff.srs@...>
 

Major +318 for what you've just said.  I would welcome Braille accessibility to get more priority in NVDA in general, grateful for what I have, but speech just gets the best of things, first and often solely.  And some of us (I for one) don't use anything but Braille (not a matter of choice).  To answer the specific question, if configured well, the BrailleExtender addon can display dot-78 on bold or italic or even spelling errors (something I particularly appreciate), but it can't blink.  So I usually set it to represent only one format, multiple formats would be confusing, though I suggested blinking (and different blinking speeds to indicate different formats, as some have provided).  I agree that, in the end, using the "official Braille representation" for bold, italic and so on is interesting. Trouble is: it's Braille table dependent and not always accurate. sNot all Braille table offer such a syntax.  As far as I know, NVDA is still not able to send formatting info to Liblouis for them to be displayed in whatever braille table is being used. Perhaps, one day, hopefully!


Cheers,


Vincent

On 10/4/2019 2:02 AM, Devin Prater wrote:
I’d much rather have the actual braille symbols for italics, bold, and such used, instead of a generic highlighting effect. After all, formatting logic is in a braille code for a reason, and I would hope that screen readers would take advantage of Liblouis’ ability to show such formatting.

On Oct 3, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Cordelia Scharpf <CScharpf@...> wrote:

Hello,

You are raising a very important question. I would greatly welcome seeing such characteristics displayed in Braille, which are commonly used in scientific writings for, e.g., book titles that get italicized. The screen readers I have been using to this day use dots 7, 8, or 7+8 or can be made to "blink". I realize that NVDA's original purpose was to make text audible; yet it would be a plus to have such elements also available as a second option--especially for those of us who primarily depend on a Braille display.

Best wishes,
Cordelia



Re: NVDA and reading texts in Grade II

Cordelia Scharpf
 

Thank you, Quentin, for these tips. I shall look into them as well. I was not thinking about different text-editing programs but MS Word only to be paired with either English (UEB) or German (Grade II) for reading purposes. Inputting I would rather keep at Grade I level, for I am most efficient at typing on a QWERTY keyboard. All suggestions are welcome, and I shall see what I can accomplish at my end.

 

Cordelia

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2019 1:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and reading texts in Grade II

 

And to complete my own thought there - you can create profiles which are "manually activated" and not linked to a program.  You can then use NVDA's Input Gestures dialog to set keystrokes for each, so then you could create a profile for each Braille table and use keystrokes to switch between them.

 

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:16 AM Quentin Christensen via Groups.Io <quentin=nvaccess.org@groups.io> wrote:

If you want to use the different tables in different programs, you can setup configuration profiles for each program and specify the Braille table to use in each program.  Open a program you want to create a profile for, press NVDA+control+p to open the configuration profiles dialog, press ALT+N for new, tab to "Use this profile for" and then right arrow to "Current program" and press ENTER. Now anything you change in NVDA's settings (except the general settings which apply across the board) are saved in that profile.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 12:42 AM Cordelia Scharpf <CScharpf@...> wrote:

Hello,

 

Please bear with me for asking a somewhat technical question, which might need to be addressed off-list.

 

I am working with English and German texts and would like to switch reading them in UEB and German grade II on my Braille display. Is there a toggle that lets me control both languages/tables of contractions? Or do I need to generate and save “profiles” and call them up as needed?

 

Can such profiles be run side-by-side in two separate windows  on one PC? In my past experience, such a plan did not seem feasible unless I ran two separate MS Word programs installed on different partitions or different PCs.

 

Best,

Cordelia


 

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Training and Support Manager

 


 

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Training and Support Manager

 

Re: Firefox options

Arlene
 

Oh, I have win ten but did not install firefox.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Luke Davis
Sent: October 3, 2019 5:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox options

 

On Thu, 3 Oct 2019, Arlene wrote:

 

> Luke, Is this with windows ten?

 

Win 10, 1903.

 

 

 

 

Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

Sile
 


Sile


On Oct 3, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Sile via Groups.Io <somodhrain@...> wrote:

I’m using eloquence from coat factory, do you think that makes a difference?



On Oct 3, 2019, at 8:14 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

"Output device" is still on the synthesizer dialog - NVDA+control+s - I haven't checked this, but maybe it is greyed out if you only have one sound device?  (I have several options so I can't test that theory out).

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Sile via Groups.Io <somodhrain=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
P.s., this used to be an option within the synthesizer selection dialog
but it does not appear to be there any more.  I am running NVDA version
2019.1.1 on a windows 10 machine.


--Sile

On 2019-10-03 7:32 p.m., Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
> Hello
>
>
> I know I have seen a thread about this, but I can't recall what the
> name of the thread is so couldn't find it in the list archive.
>
>
> I want to be able to set the audio device that NVDA output goes to so
> that I can separate it from my main headphone output for presentations.
>
>
> --Sile
>
>
>
>
>





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Re: Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

Sile
 

I’m using eloquence from coat factory, do you think that makes a difference?



On Oct 3, 2019, at 8:14 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

"Output device" is still on the synthesizer dialog - NVDA+control+s - I haven't checked this, but maybe it is greyed out if you only have one sound device?  (I have several options so I can't test that theory out).

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Sile via Groups.Io <somodhrain=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
P.s., this used to be an option within the synthesizer selection dialog
but it does not appear to be there any more.  I am running NVDA version
2019.1.1 on a windows 10 machine.


--Sile

On 2019-10-03 7:32 p.m., Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
> Hello
>
>
> I know I have seen a thread about this, but I can't recall what the
> name of the thread is so couldn't find it in the list archive.
>
>
> I want to be able to set the audio device that NVDA output goes to so
> that I can separate it from my main headphone output for presentations.
>
>
> --Sile
>
>
>
>
>





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Re: Touch screen support

 

Hi,

An important thing to remember about this build: it does not support profile switching mechanism – cannot disable touch support while using specific apps and what not. Another thing to note: this try build is based on latest alpha build (Python 3 among other changes). If you prefer, you can test an equivalent functionality if you are using Enhanced Touch Gestures add-on 19.09 and later.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 5:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Touch screen support

 

Someone asked recently about using NVDA on a device with a touch screen and having the ability to NOT overwrite the default touch screen behaviour.  I can't find the correspondence and can't recall where it came via.  If the person who asked that (or anyone else interested) is here, there is a try build you can test out for it linked to this issue: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/9682

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Re: Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

Tyler Spivey
 

Control insert s, tab, select your device. Alternatively, NVDA menu, Preferences, Settings, Speech, Change, select it there.

Due to a longstanding bug, selecting anything other than sound mapper may end up with your speech going to somewhere else if you plug in or unplug an audio device, or switch the default.

Another longstanding unfixed bug is that when you switch the output device in NVDA, the beeps generated by NVDA won't switch along with the synth.
Restarting NVDA should fix these when they happen.

On 10/3/2019 4:42 PM, Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
P.s., this used to be an option within the synthesizer selection dialog but it does not appear to be there any more.  I am running NVDA version 2019.1.1 on a windows 10 machine.
--Sile
On 2019-10-03 7:32 p.m., Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello


I know I have seen a thread about this, but I can't recall what the name of the thread is so couldn't find it in the list archive.


I want to be able to set the audio device that NVDA output goes to so that I can separate it from my main headphone output for presentations.


--Sile




Re: Firefox options

Luke Davis
 

On Thu, 3 Oct 2019, Arlene wrote:

Luke, Is this with windows ten?
Win 10, 1903.

Touch screen support

Quentin Christensen
 

Someone asked recently about using NVDA on a device with a touch screen and having the ability to NOT overwrite the default touch screen behaviour.  I can't find the correspondence and can't recall where it came via.  If the person who asked that (or anyone else interested) is here, there is a try build you can test out for it linked to this issue: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/9682

Regards

Quentin.
 

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Re: Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

Quentin Christensen
 

"Output device" is still on the synthesizer dialog - NVDA+control+s - I haven't checked this, but maybe it is greyed out if you only have one sound device?  (I have several options so I can't test that theory out).


On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:42 AM Sile via Groups.Io <somodhrain=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
P.s., this used to be an option within the synthesizer selection dialog
but it does not appear to be there any more.  I am running NVDA version
2019.1.1 on a windows 10 machine.


--Sile

On 2019-10-03 7:32 p.m., Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
> Hello
>
>
> I know I have seen a thread about this, but I can't recall what the
> name of the thread is so couldn't find it in the list archive.
>
>
> I want to be able to set the audio device that NVDA output goes to so
> that I can separate it from my main headphone output for presentations.
>
>
> --Sile
>
>
>
>
>





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Re: Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

Jaffar Sidek
 

Hi.  I will stand corrected on this, but if you have two sound cards, one of which has a USB connection, then just set your default sound to be that on your computer's onboard sound chip, RealTech for example.  You can then connect a different set of headphones or speakers to your USB powered sound card and listen to other stuff from there.  I use this setup daily as Part of my work involves sound and music production.  Cheers!

On 10/4/2019 7:32 AM, Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello


I know I have seen a thread about this, but I can't recall what the name of the thread is so couldn't find it in the list archive.


I want to be able to set the audio device that NVDA output goes to so that I can separate it from my main headphone output for presentations.


--Sile



Re: Formatting on a Braille Display

Devin Prater
 

I’d much rather have the actual braille symbols for italics, bold, and such used, instead of a generic highlighting effect. After all, formatting logic is in a braille code for a reason, and I would hope that screen readers would take advantage of Liblouis’ ability to show such formatting.

On Oct 3, 2019, at 3:13 PM, Cordelia Scharpf <CScharpf@...> wrote:

Hello,

You are raising a very important question. I would greatly welcome seeing such characteristics displayed in Braille, which are commonly used in scientific writings for, e.g., book titles that get italicized. The screen readers I have been using to this day use dots 7, 8, or 7+8 or can be made to "blink". I realize that NVDA's original purpose was to make text audible; yet it would be a plus to have such elements also available as a second option--especially for those of us who primarily depend on a Braille display.

Best wishes,
Cordelia



Re: tracking down NVDA triggers

Gene
 

I suspect something is causing a focus problem but we really don't have enough information to do more than speculate.  My recollection is that NVDA doesn't automatically read the title bar when it changes.  I think that would be a good user controlled feature. 
 
That aside, if something is taking focus, then returning it, I would expect this behavior.  But I think discussion of whether NVDA should have an automatically read the title bar or text changes feature in the title bar might be useful.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: tim
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2019 2:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] tracking down NVDA triggers

I have to go with John on this one.
If you have any third party virus or malware hunters. Then you can have screen notifications pop up and go . With those any screen reader acts the same way.
So I would look for notifications and maintenance software that came with the laptop. All have some type for updating drivers.

On Oct 1, 2019, at 1:33 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,
I’m thinking not – as in debugging steps didn’t take place from what I can tell.
To Giles, can you try running NVDA in debug mode, and as soon as you hear NVDA repeat an info you don’t want to hear, send a log (press NVDA+F1 to open the log and copoy and paste everything as an email) to me and Quentin so we can diagnose what’s up? I’m requesting logs in private because it may contain sensitive information. Be sure to CC info@... with the precise description of the problem when sending the log to us.
Cheers,
Joseph
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 10:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] tracking down NVDA triggers
 
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 01:23 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Only after trying to figure out what’s up with NVDA should we look into SFC.
Joseph, given what was offered in the original message, I am willing to presume that NVDA debugging, including a possible uninstall/reinstall, has already taken place.  Perhaps it hasn't, but then I'd hope that might be tried as a step.

I stand by my advice, which does not include doing a completely clean reinstall unless all other methods fail.  Doing an SFC and DISM as "good housekeeping" hurts absolutely nothing, and can also serve as a diagnostic step.

There are multiple ways to come at any problem, and I am not about to allow my advice to be grossly mischaracterized.   It's a fairly simple matter to do some significant "Windows 10 Health Checks" to see if something could be wrong.  It has been my experience that when uncharacteristic behaviors such as those described are occurring it's generally not the application program that's at fault.
 
-- 
Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  
The color of truth is grey.
           ~ André Gide

 

 


Re: Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

Kerryn Gunness
 

sile

1. press control NVDA key and s to open synth box
2. tab once to a combo box with options
3. use arro keys to choose your option, for example u s b head phones
4 tab to ok button and press enter

NVDA should be heard in the option you picked

you're done

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sile via Groups.Io" <somodhrain=googlemail.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 7:32 PM
Subject: [nvda] Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device


Hello


I know I have seen a thread about this, but I can't recall what the name of the thread is so couldn't find it in the list archive.


I want to be able to set the audio device that NVDA output goes to so that I can separate it from my main headphone output for presentations.


--Sile



Re: Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

Sile
 

P.s., this used to be an option within the synthesizer selection dialog but it does not appear to be there any more.  I am running NVDA version 2019.1.1 on a windows 10 machine.


--Sile

On 2019-10-03 7:32 p.m., Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello


I know I have seen a thread about this, but I can't recall what the name of the thread is so couldn't find it in the list archive.


I want to be able to set the audio device that NVDA output goes to so that I can separate it from my main headphone output for presentations.


--Sile



Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device

Sile
 

Hello


I know I have seen a thread about this, but I can't recall what the name of the thread is so couldn't find it in the list archive.


I want to be able to set the audio device that NVDA output goes to so that I can separate it from my main headphone output for presentations.


--Sile

Re: NVDA and reading texts in Grade II

Quentin Christensen
 

And to complete my own thought there - you can create profiles which are "manually activated" and not linked to a program.  You can then use NVDA's Input Gestures dialog to set keystrokes for each, so then you could create a profile for each Braille table and use keystrokes to switch between them.


On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:16 AM Quentin Christensen via Groups.Io <quentin=nvaccess.org@groups.io> wrote:
If you want to use the different tables in different programs, you can setup configuration profiles for each program and specify the Braille table to use in each program.  Open a program you want to create a profile for, press NVDA+control+p to open the configuration profiles dialog, press ALT+N for new, tab to "Use this profile for" and then right arrow to "Current program" and press ENTER. Now anything you change in NVDA's settings (except the general settings which apply across the board) are saved in that profile.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 12:42 AM Cordelia Scharpf <CScharpf@...> wrote:

Hello,

 

Please bear with me for asking a somewhat technical question, which might need to be addressed off-list.

 

I am working with English and German texts and would like to switch reading them in UEB and German grade II on my Braille display. Is there a toggle that lets me control both languages/tables of contractions? Or do I need to generate and save “profiles” and call them up as needed?

 

Can such profiles be run side-by-side in two separate windows  on one PC? In my past experience, such a plan did not seem feasible unless I ran two separate MS Word programs installed on different partitions or different PCs.

 

Best,

Cordelia



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Re: Firefox options

 

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 06:08 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
Before giving that advice, please recommend running the COM Registration Fixing Tool (NVDA -> Tools menu). That can solve various "NVDA isn't reading what it should" problems.
Always willing to add another arrow to the quiver, particularly one that is lower on the "time and effort" scale.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 

Re: NVDA and reading texts in Grade II

Quentin Christensen
 

If you want to use the different tables in different programs, you can setup configuration profiles for each program and specify the Braille table to use in each program.  Open a program you want to create a profile for, press NVDA+control+p to open the configuration profiles dialog, press ALT+N for new, tab to "Use this profile for" and then right arrow to "Current program" and press ENTER. Now anything you change in NVDA's settings (except the general settings which apply across the board) are saved in that profile.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 12:42 AM Cordelia Scharpf <CScharpf@...> wrote:

Hello,

 

Please bear with me for asking a somewhat technical question, which might need to be addressed off-list.

 

I am working with English and German texts and would like to switch reading them in UEB and German grade II on my Braille display. Is there a toggle that lets me control both languages/tables of contractions? Or do I need to generate and save “profiles” and call them up as needed?

 

Can such profiles be run side-by-side in two separate windows  on one PC? In my past experience, such a plan did not seem feasible unless I ran two separate MS Word programs installed on different partitions or different PCs.

 

Best,

Cordelia



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager