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locked Re: NVDA remote

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I agree. There’s no excuse for rudeness whether a person is correct or not.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Hareth
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 9:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote

 

Brian,

Being correct or not, never justifies being rude to each other.

No matter how we try to re phrase it.

TC

 

On 1/1/20, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

> Regardless of how indelicately Mr. Kingett may have been, he is correct.

> When there are issues with add-ons it is the add-on developers who must fix

> them.  And this doesn't apply only to NVDA add-ons, either.  Whoever created

> or is maintaining a given piece of code is the person/entity that should be

> contacted when there are issues with it.

> If an add-on has been abandoned, and by all appearances this one has by its

> original developers, there should be a procedure whereby it can either be

> picked up by others or integrated into NVDA itself.

> But until or unless someone else does pick it up, or it's slated to be

> integrated into core NVDA functionality, it's the original developers who

> are responsible for its maintenance.

> --

> Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

> Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out

> of favor.

> ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

>

 

 

 


locked Re: NVDA remote

 

On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 12:29 PM, Hareth wrote:
Being correct or not, never justifies being rude to each other
It certainly doesn't.  Physician, heal thyself.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

 

 


locked Re: NVDA remote

Hareth
 

Brian,
Being correct or not, never justifies being rude to each other.
No matter how we try to re phrase it.
TC

On 1/1/20, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
Regardless of how indelicately Mr. Kingett may have been, he is correct.
When there are issues with add-ons it is the add-on developers who must fix
them.  And this doesn't apply only to NVDA add-ons, either.  Whoever created
or is maintaining a given piece of code is the person/entity that should be
contacted when there are issues with it.

If an add-on has been abandoned, and by all appearances this one has by its
original developers, there should be a procedure whereby it can either be
picked up by others or integrated into NVDA itself.

But until or unless someone else does pick it up, or it's slated to be
integrated into core NVDA functionality, it's the original developers who
are responsible for its maintenance.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out
of favor.

~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)




locked Re: NVDA remote

 

By the way, the main page for the NVDA Remote Add-on clearly indicates it is open-source, meaning the source code is available for anyone who is capable to pick up and update.  That's the whole idea behind the open-source movement.

Its Source Code page states: "The NVDA Remote Access add-on is fully free and open source. You can download the source code, make modifications to it, and submit pull requests to have your modifications considered for inclusion in the add-on itself. You are also free to fork the add-on for your own use. The source code is available at https://github.com/NVDARemote/NVDARemote"

If push came to shove the project could be forked to a new one using the existing code base.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

 

 


locked Re: NVDA remote

 

Regardless of how indelicately Mr. Kingett may have been, he is correct.  When there are issues with add-ons it is the add-on developers who must fix them.  And this doesn't apply only to NVDA add-ons, either.  Whoever created or is maintaining a given piece of code is the person/entity that should be contacted when there are issues with it.

If an add-on has been abandoned, and by all appearances this one has by its original developers, there should be a procedure whereby it can either be picked up by others or integrated into NVDA itself.

But until or unless someone else does pick it up, or it's slated to be integrated into core NVDA functionality, it's the original developers who are responsible for its maintenance.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

 

 


Re: Vocalizer expressive driver question

 

On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 10:26 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Very strange!
Rui,

        You've probably gotten two messages regarding my having edited your initial post, but that still wouldn't have explained the strangeness.  In the original, for some reason, the opening "ht" in your full link was not part of the link, and the remainder resolved to this:

                    ftp://tiflo@.../home/tiflo/html/Instal/vocalizer_expressive_driver-3.1.0.nvda-addon

which does demand login.  The link you intended:

                    https://www.tiflotecnia.net/Instal/vocalizer_expressive_driver-3.1.0.nvda-addon

does precisely what you said and thought it would.  Heaven only knows how that original bit came to pass, but I thought you would appreciate knowing exactly what had occurred.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

 

 


Re: Nvda ocr addon

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi.

I think there’s an ocr add-on that you might be able to use with windows 7. Try this link  . . .

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/ocr.en.html

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rana Ayaz
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 12:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda ocr addon

 

Thanks for response
But I want to use with window 7 32 bit

 

On Wed, Jan 1, 2020, 9:59 PM molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> wrote:

Hi.

There’s a Windows 10 ocr. If you go into NVDA’s settings, scroll down to windows 10 ocr, press tab till you get to the recognition language. You can use the up and down arrows   to choose which recognition language you prefer.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rana Ayaz
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 12:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Nvda ocr addon

 

Greetings to all and Happy New year respected members I want to know about NVDA optical character recognition addon
For all languages


Re: Nvda ocr addon

Rana Ayaz <rana.ayaz1@...>
 

Thanks for response
But I want to use with window 7 32 bit


On Wed, Jan 1, 2020, 9:59 PM molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> wrote:

Hi.

There’s a Windows 10 ocr. If you go into NVDA’s settings, scroll down to windows 10 ocr, press tab till you get to the recognition language. You can use the up and down arrows   to choose which recognition language you prefer.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rana Ayaz
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 12:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Nvda ocr addon

 

Greetings to all and Happy New year respected members I want to know about NVDA optical character recognition addon
For all languages


Re: Nvda ocr addon

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi.

There’s a Windows 10 ocr. If you go into NVDA’s settings, scroll down to windows 10 ocr, press tab till you get to the recognition language. You can use the up and down arrows   to choose which recognition language you prefer.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rana Ayaz
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 12:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Nvda ocr addon

 

Greetings to all and Happy New year respected members I want to know about NVDA optical character recognition addon
For all languages


Nvda ocr addon

Rana Ayaz <rana.ayaz1@...>
 

Greetings to all and Happy New year respected members I want to know about NVDA optical character recognition addon
For all languages


Re: Vocalizer expressive driver question

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

 

Very strange!

 

Here is a Dropbox link:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/pi46eab9l3shzrj/vocalizer_expressive_driver-3.1.0.nvda-addon?dl=1

 

Best regards,

 

Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.

 

 

De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em Nome De Greg Wocher
Enviada: terça-feira, 31 de dezembro de 2019 19:29
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Vocalizer expressive driver question

 

Hello,

Still no go. For what ever reason it always takes me to a site with a log in.

 

Greg Wocher

 

On 12/31/2019 11:03 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:

Hello!

 

Try this one:

https://www.tiflotecnia.net/Instal/vocalizer_expressive_driver-3.1.0.nvda-addon

 

Best regards,

 

Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.

 

 

 

De: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Em Nome De Greg Wocher
Enviada: terça-feira, 31 de dezembro de 2019 15:18
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Vocalizer expressive driver question

 

Hello,

When I try to access this file it is asking for a username and log in. I tried my vocalizer account info and it would not let me in.

 

Greg WOcher     

On 12/30/2019 7:44 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:

Hello!

 

It is not yet published on our webpage, but you can download from:

www.tiflotecnia.net/ftp/vocalizer_expressive_driver-3.1.0.nvda-addon

 

Best regards,

 

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.

Às 11:52 de 30/12/2019, Greg Wocher escreveu:

Hello all,

I have a license for the vocalizer expressive voices from Tiflotecnia. I am running NVDA 2019.3 beta 1. I thought there was suppose to be a new version of the driver that would work with this version of NVDA. However when I go to the website to download the driver it is still the same one I have now that does not work with NVDA 2019.3. When will the new driver be put up to download?

 

Greg Wocher

 


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locked Re: NVDA remote

molly the blind tech lover
 

Happy new year to all. 😀

Here's to hoping all the add-ons will be compatible.
God bless
Molly

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hareth
Sent: Wednesday, January 1, 2020 5:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote

Mark,
Please don't let any people's online behavior stops your posting.
Unfortunately some got it in their heads that they own the whole internet.
and can be as rude as they wish whenever feel like it.
Fortunately we have PC's and connection as well, and can respond to rudeness if required.
I feel sorry for them, if they didn't even feel the new year just been started.
Happy new year to all.

On 1/1/20, Mark via Groups.Io <marktyler2014=virginmedia.com@groups.io> wrote:
Well I will not be asking a question on here again Just damb rood
Mark.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Hareth
Sent: 01 January 2020 05:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote

Robert!
If you were trying to shout your voice loud. You've failed big-time.
Cool off man! Its a brand new year.
On 12/29/19, Robert Kingett <@blindjourno> wrote:
And, again, talk, to, the! Developers! Of! The! Add, on! This list
only provided a temporary patch. so, again, talk! To! The! Developers! Of!
The!
Add! on! As of now, there have been no announcements or anything from
the developers regarding Python 3 compatibility . I dunno how to say
this any clearer. As of now, no. Assume it will not work. But start
emailing, the, developers. The developers! The developers, the
developers! It won't work until further notice.










Re: quick folder navigation extenskion for Mozilla Thunderbiord no longer works

Kevin Cussick
 

it does seem to work here.

On 31/12/2019 23:57, Brian Vogel wrote:
According to the page for the Quick Folder Key Navigation Add-On for Thunderbird <https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/quick-folder-key-navigation/> a new version was released in September that should work with Thunderbird 68.0 and later.
It is noted as Version 2.0 of the add-on.
--
Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363
Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.
         ~ Robert Frost, /The Black Cottage/ (1914)


Re: quick folder navigation extenskion for Mozilla Thunderbiord no longer works

Dan Beaver
 

Sorry, I am on 68.3.1 which is what it updated to yesterday.  It started working again after I updated the quick key folder navigation extension.


Dan Beaver

On 1/1/2020 5:24 AM, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:

Hello Dan,

You did not write, what version of Thunderbird you use.

I have version 68.3 and in this version quick folder key navigation does really works.


Jarek
Dne 31.12.2019 v 22:16 Dan Beaver napsal(a):

My Thunderbird updated today and after word this extension no longer works.  I looked at the add on manager and it says it is no longer compatible with Thunderbird.


I thought I'd mention this since some of us use this extension.  What a pain.



-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)
-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


Re: quick folder navigation extenskion for Mozilla Thunderbiord no longer works

Jarek.Krcmar
 

Correcting: the addon Quick folder key navigation works in version 68.1 and later.

In the version 68.0 it doesn't work.


Jarek
Dne 01.01.2020 v 0:57 Brian Vogel napsal(a):

According to the page for the Quick Folder Key Navigation Add-On for Thunderbird a new version was released in September that should work with Thunderbird 68.0 and later.

It is noted as Version 2.0 of the add-on.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)

 

 


Re: quick folder navigation extenskion for Mozilla Thunderbiord no longer works

Jarek.Krcmar
 

Hello Dan,

You did not write, what version of Thunderbird you use.

I have version 68.3 and in this version quick folder key navigation does really works.


Jarek
Dne 31.12.2019 v 22:16 Dan Beaver napsal(a):

My Thunderbird updated today and after word this extension no longer works.  I looked at the add on manager and it says it is no longer compatible with Thunderbird.


I thought I'd mention this since some of us use this extension.  What a pain.



-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)


locked Re: NVDA remote

Hareth
 

Mark,
Please don't let any people's online behavior stops your posting.
Unfortunately some got it in their heads that they own the whole internet.
and can be as rude as they wish whenever feel like it.
Fortunately we have PC's and connection as well, and can respond to
rudeness if required.
I feel sorry for them, if they didn't even feel the new year just been started.
Happy new year to all.

On 1/1/20, Mark via Groups.Io <marktyler2014=virginmedia.com@groups.io> wrote:
Well I will not be asking a question on here again
Just damb rood
Mark.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Hareth
Sent: 01 January 2020 05:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote

Robert!
If you were trying to shout your voice loud. You've failed big-time.
Cool off man! Its a brand new year.
On 12/29/19, Robert Kingett <@blindjourno> wrote:
And, again, talk, to, the! Developers! Of! The! Add, on! This list only
provided a temporary patch. so, again, talk! To! The! Developers! Of!
The!
Add! on! As of now, there have been no announcements or anything from the
developers regarding Python 3 compatibility . I dunno how to say this any
clearer. As of now, no. Assume it will not work. But start emailing, the,
developers. The developers! The developers, the developers! It won't work
until further notice.










locked Re: NVDA remote

Mark <marktyler2014@...>
 

Well I will not be asking a question on here again

Just damb rood

Mark.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Hareth
Sent: 01 January 2020 05:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote

 

Robert!

If you were trying to shout your voice loud. You've failed big-time.

Cool off man! Its a brand new year.

On 12/29/19, Robert Kingett <kingettr@...> wrote:

> And, again, talk, to, the! Developers! Of! The! Add, on! This list only

> provided a temporary patch. so, again, talk! To! The! Developers! Of! The!

> Add! on! As of now, there have been no announcements or anything from the

> developers regarding Python 3 compatibility . I dunno how to say this any

> clearer. As of now, no. Assume it will not work. But start emailing, the,

> developers. The developers! The developers, the developers! It won't work

> until further notice.

>

 

 

 


locked Re: NVDA remote

g melconian
 

Haryth happy new year.also happy new year to our of the wall family.