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Re: The file to manually change NVDA commands

Gene
 

Thanks.  I wasn't thinking of filter as meaning the same thing as search.  I missed the command when I was looking through where I thought it might be.


Gene

On 8/16/2020 9:20 PM, Tyler Spivey wrote:
You want gestures.ini. but the command you want is already there, search
the input gestures dialog for status.

On 8/16/2020 7:18 PM, Gene wrote:
Years ago, I knew the name of the file that NVDA uses to store its
keyboard commands.  I want to change a command that isn't in the
commands provided in the input gestures available in preferences.


I want to change the command to read the status line.


What is the name of the file?


Thanks for the help.


Gene




Re: The file to manually change NVDA commands

Tyler Spivey
 

You want gestures.ini. but the command you want is already there, search
the input gestures dialog for status.

On 8/16/2020 7:18 PM, Gene wrote:
Years ago, I knew the name of the file that NVDA uses to store its
keyboard commands.  I want to change a command that isn't in the
commands provided in the input gestures available in preferences.


I want to change the command to read the status line.


What is the name of the file?


Thanks for the help.


Gene




The file to manually change NVDA commands

Gene
 

Years ago, I knew the name of the file that NVDA uses to store its keyboard commands.  I want to change a command that isn't in the commands provided in the input gestures available in preferences.


I want to change the command to read the status line.


What is the name of the file?


Thanks for the help.


Gene


Re: Interacting with mouse over links using NVDA?

Gene
 

It may cause the action to take place but you won't know what or where it is.  NVDA doesn't support mouseover.  My impression is that it is so rarely necessary in using sites that it isn't supported except in JAWS.


When you issue the mouseover command in JAWS, JAWS tells you where a change occurred on what line.  You then use the go to line command to see what the change is.  You then use another command to return to your previous position.  NVDA has none of these functions.  While I would think that moving the mouse to the link might carry out the action, as I said, you won't know anything about it.


Gene

On 8/16/2020 3:58 PM, benmoxey@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Akash

1. Move your focus to the position of the element that has the mouse over actions.
2. Move the mouse pointer to that position with NVDA + / on the number pad (desktop mode) or NVDA + Shift + M (laptop mode).

This should display mouse over actions. Note that I am assuming that the navigator object is set to follow focus changes, which is the default behaviour. You can clarify this if necessary in the Review Cursor settings or toggle this behaviour on or off with NVDA + 7.

All the best.

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Akash Kakkar
Sent: Monday, 17 August 2020 3:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Interacting with mouse over links using NVDA?

Hey guys,
so subject line says all this.
How do we interact with mouse over links/controls using NVDA?
In JAWS, we use to press "insert+control+enter" which doesn't work in case of NVDA.
any help/pointers please?






Re: Interacting with mouse over links using NVDA?

benmoxey@...
 

Hey Akash

1. Move your focus to the position of the element that has the mouse over actions.
2. Move the mouse pointer to that position with NVDA + / on the number pad (desktop mode) or NVDA + Shift + M (laptop mode).

This should display mouse over actions. Note that I am assuming that the navigator object is set to follow focus changes, which is the default behaviour. You can clarify this if necessary in the Review Cursor settings or toggle this behaviour on or off with NVDA + 7.

All the best.

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Akash Kakkar
Sent: Monday, 17 August 2020 3:23 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Interacting with mouse over links using NVDA?

Hey guys,
so subject line says all this.
How do we interact with mouse over links/controls using NVDA?
In JAWS, we use to press "insert+control+enter" which doesn't work in case of NVDA.
any help/pointers please?


Windows 10 App Essentials 20.08.1, Enhanced Touch Gestures August 16th dev build #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

Windows 10 App Essentials 20.08.1 is on its way – it will show up in about an hour from now. In addition, Enhanced Touch Gestures August 16th development build will be released. WinTenApps 20.08.1 resolves compatibility issue with latest Cortana 2 release on May 2020 Update (Version 2004), specifically NVDA will now announce Cortana’s responses.

Additional things to note:

  • Enhanced Touch Gestures: August 16th build is a development build and includes features planned for upcoming 20.09 release. For people using August 13th snapshot, today’s build removes coordinate announcement beep for touch exploration.
  • Windows 10 App Essentials: August 16th development build is also on its way. This build includes all the changes in 20.08.1 stable version with additional linting fixes. It is also the last regular build for a while – starting from the next dev build, WinTenApps will test compatibility with NVDA 2020.3 changes, as changes made in that NVDA version will affect this add-on greatly. For this reason, these bleeding-edge builds (to be named “devAlpha”) will require NVDA 2020.3 alpha for full functionality. Regular builds will resume in late August.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Protonmail

Gene
 

Unless someone is sending personal or confidential information, they may not care.  I don't think any possible sbnooper is going to be interested in reading my mail, which mostly is e-mail list mail. 


Gene

On 8/16/2020 2:57 PM, Jesse Farquharson wrote:

THat's where you're wrong, though. Google is absolutely not secure. They claim they are, but until they use end to end encryption on e-mails and Google searches and other such things, it's all a lie.

Luke, if you're reading this, regarding your point about getting the mailbox configuration thing to show up, yes, you do have to select expand row for that to work. I am trying the process on my new machine and so far your steps are working for me.


Re: Protonmail

Gene
 

Unless someone is sending personal or confidential information, they may not care.  I don't think any possible sbnooper is going to be interested in reading my mail, which mostly is e-mail list mail. 


Gene

On 8/16/2020 2:57 PM, Jesse Farquharson wrote:

THat's where you're wrong, though. Google is absolutely not secure. They claim they are, but until they use end to end encryption on e-mails and Google searches and other such things, it's all a lie.

Luke, if you're reading this, regarding your point about getting the mailbox configuration thing to show up, yes, you do have to select expand row for that to work. I am trying the process on my new machine and so far your steps are working for me.


Re: Protonmail

Jesse Farquharson
 

THat's where you're wrong, though. Google is absolutely not secure. They claim they are, but until they use end to end encryption on e-mails and Google searches and other such things, it's all a lie.

Luke, if you're reading this, regarding your point about getting the mailbox configuration thing to show up, yes, you do have to select expand row for that to work. I am trying the process on my new machine and so far your steps are working for me.


Re: Issue with Opera and Web Address Box: can someone help me please?

 

Topic retitled to give specific information regarding the browser where the issue is occurring.  Please reply to the topic that has Opera in the title so that I don't have to keep re-merging topics.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 2004, Build 19041  

A gentleman is one who never hurts anyone's feelings unintentionally.

          ~ Oscar Wilde

 


Interacting with mouse over links using NVDA?

Akash Kakkar
 

Hey guys,
so subject line says all this.
How do we interact with mouse over links/controls using NVDA?
In JAWS, we use to press "insert+control+enter" which doesn't work in
case of NVDA.
any help/pointers please?


Re: Drag and drop with NVDA and Thunderbird

Guy Schlosser
 

Ron, thank you so much for the link to that ad-on. that was so much easier! You guys have an awesome day, I am off to go watch some Indy, and NASCAR stuff with my wife. 

On Aug 16, 2020, at 12:09 PM, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:

 Hi Guy,

Rather than try to use object navigation in a rather convoluted process, download and install the Mozilla Apps Enhancement add on from the NVDA add ons page.  The latest version will work with all versions of Thunderbird including version 78.

Here is the direct link to this add on page.
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html


On 8/16/2020 11:01 AM, Guy Schlosser wrote:



Begin forwarded message:

From: Guy Schlosser <guyster@...>
Date: August 16, 2020 at 10:33:03 AM EDT
To: nvda@...
Subject: Drag and drop with NVDA and Thunderbird
Hi all. I am trying to re-order my columns in Mozilla Thunderbird, and having some trouble. I listen to the tutorial that I found on groups.io, and I was unable to get my NVDA cursor to go up to the header where the columns are listed. Is there something different that I have to do? When I have NVDA in object navigation mode I use the NVDA key plus number four and I cannot seem to get the NVDA cursor  the top of the message list. Any help would be welcome. Is this an update thing? I think I am running NVDA 2020.1 on this particular flash drive.
Thanks,
Guy

-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Issue with Opera and Web Address Box: can someone help me please?

P. Otter
 

Hello everyone,
In the past I was when I opened the address field and a url typed read everything back that I had typed.
Now that's no longer, it seems the line is empty when I had typed something.
I have the latest version of Opera.
This is a known issue or is it just me?
there are others who suffer it?
This is only opera!
my other browsers do not have that problem.
best regards
paul otter


Re: VLC addon for the latest version

René Linke <rene.linke@...>
 

Hi,

I have installed VLC add-on 2.10, it works well with VLC Media Player version 3.0.11 and NVDA latest alpha version.

René


Re: Drag and drop with NVDA and Thunderbird

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Guy,

Rather than try to use object navigation in a rather convoluted process, download and install the Mozilla Apps Enhancement add on from the NVDA add ons page.  The latest version will work with all versions of Thunderbird including version 78.

Here is the direct link to this add on page.
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html


On 8/16/2020 11:01 AM, Guy Schlosser wrote:



Begin forwarded message:

From: Guy Schlosser <guyster@...>
Date: August 16, 2020 at 10:33:03 AM EDT
To: nvda@...
Subject: Drag and drop with NVDA and Thunderbird
Hi all. I am trying to re-order my columns in Mozilla Thunderbird, and having some trouble. I listen to the tutorial that I found on groups.io, and I was unable to get my NVDA cursor to go up to the header where the columns are listed. Is there something different that I have to do? When I have NVDA in object navigation mode I use the NVDA key plus number four and I cannot seem to get the NVDA cursor  the top of the message list. Any help would be welcome. Is this an update thing? I think I am running NVDA 2020.1 on this particular flash drive.
Thanks,
Guy

-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Drag and drop with NVDA and Thunderbird

Gene
 

Here is another link with other instructions.  I don't know which may or may not work properly or be better or easier to work with.

https://groups.io/g/thunderbird/message/28


Gene

On 8/16/2020 10:32 AM, Guy Schlosser wrote:
Hey there Gene:

What I’m trying to do is re-order the columns in Mozilla Thunderbird. For example, I am trying to move the status column clear to the left, followed by from, subject, etc. I did see a Mussula add-on, but it didn’t look like it worked with this version of Thunderbird. As a matter of fact, it didn’t even show up in my add-ons list when I did a search.

On Aug 16, 2020, at 11:12 AM, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm not sure just what you are trying to do. I've seldom looked at that part of the Thunderbird interface. Nvda key 4 doesn't move you to the top of anything. It moves you to the left by object. NVEDA key 6b moves you to the right by object. NVDA key 2 8 moves you up by object, NVDA key 2 moves you down.
To move within an object, if you can, you use just the numpad keys themselves.

There is, however an add-on, I don't know if it is an NVDA or a Mozilla add-on, but I think its an NVDA add-on, that removes all this nonsense, otherwise reqquired. It allows you to reorder columns easily. I say nonsense because if Mozilla would make this operation accessible, none of this would be necessary. This problem has existed for years. But where are they in making this operation accessible?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Guy Schlosser
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 10:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Drag and drop with NVDA and Thunderbird





Begin forwarded message:


From: Guy Schlosser <guyster@bex.net>
Date: August 16, 2020 at 10:33:03 AM EDT
To: nvda@freelists.org
Subject: Drag and drop with NVDA and Thunderbird

Hi all. I am trying to re-order my columns in Mozilla Thunderbird, and having some trouble. I listen to the tutorial that I found on groups.io, and I was unable to get my NVDA cursor to go up to the header where the columns are listed. Is there something different that I have to do? When I have NVDA in object navigation mode I use the NVDA key plus number four and I cannot seem to get the NVDA cursor the top of the message list. Any help would be welcome. Is this an update thing? I think I am running NVDA 2020.1 on this particular flash drive.
Thanks,
Guy





Re: Drag and drop with NVDA and Thunderbird

Gene
 

I'm playing with Thunderbird now to see if I can figure it out. I found instructions with a search and I don't know if they match what you found in the tutorial.  Here is the link:

https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/colum_headers_in_thunderbird/3281531?p=


Also, a link is given in the message to an audio tutorial. Perhaps that is the one you are using.


It may be that the add-on won't work in your version of Thunderbird.  Others can comment on whether an updated version is available if you are using a version too new for the old version of the add-on to be compatible with.


Gene

On 8/16/2020 10:32 AM, Guy Schlosser wrote:

Hey there Gene:

What I’m trying to do is re-order the columns in Mozilla Thunderbird. For example, I am trying to move the status column clear to the left, followed by from, subject, etc. I did see a Mussula add-on, but it didn’t look like it worked with this version of Thunderbird. As a matter of fact, it didn’t even show up in my add-ons list when I did a search.

On Aug 16, 2020, at 11:12 AM, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm not sure just what you are trying to do. I've seldom looked at that part of the Thunderbird interface. Nvda key 4 doesn't move you to the top of anything. It moves you to the left by object. NVEDA key 6b moves you to the right by object. NVDA key 2 8 moves you up by object, NVDA key 2 moves you down.
To move within an object, if you can, you use just the numpad keys themselves.

There is, however an add-on, I don't know if it is an NVDA or a Mozilla add-on, but I think its an NVDA add-on, that removes all this nonsense, otherwise reqquired. It allows you to reorder columns easily. I say nonsense because if Mozilla would make this operation accessible, none of this would be necessary. This problem has existed for years. But where are they in making this operation accessible?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Guy Schlosser
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 10:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Drag and drop with NVDA and Thunderbird





Begin forwarded message:


From: Guy Schlosser <guyster@bex.net>
Date: August 16, 2020 at 10:33:03 AM EDT
To: nvda@freelists.org
Subject: Drag and drop with NVDA and Thunderbird

Hi all. I am trying to re-order my columns in Mozilla Thunderbird, and having some trouble. I listen to the tutorial that I found on groups.io, and I was unable to get my NVDA cursor to go up to the header where the columns are listed. Is there something different that I have to do? When I have NVDA in object navigation mode I use the NVDA key plus number four and I cannot seem to get the NVDA cursor the top of the message list. Any help would be welcome. Is this an update thing? I think I am running NVDA 2020.1 on this particular flash drive.
Thanks,
Guy





Re: Drag and drop with NVDA and Thunderbird

Guy Schlosser
 

Hey there Gene:

What I’m trying to do is re-order the columns in Mozilla Thunderbird. For example, I am trying to move the status column clear to the left, followed by from, subject, etc. I did see a Mussula add-on, but it didn’t look like it worked with this version of Thunderbird. As a matter of fact, it didn’t even show up in my add-ons list when I did a search.

On Aug 16, 2020, at 11:12 AM, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm not sure just what you are trying to do. I've seldom looked at that part of the Thunderbird interface. Nvda key 4 doesn't move you to the top of anything. It moves you to the left by object. NVEDA key 6b moves you to the right by object. NVDA key 2 8 moves you up by object, NVDA key 2 moves you down.
To move within an object, if you can, you use just the numpad keys themselves.

There is, however an add-on, I don't know if it is an NVDA or a Mozilla add-on, but I think its an NVDA add-on, that removes all this nonsense, otherwise reqquired. It allows you to reorder columns easily. I say nonsense because if Mozilla would make this operation accessible, none of this would be necessary. This problem has existed for years. But where are they in making this operation accessible?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Guy Schlosser
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 10:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Drag and drop with NVDA and Thunderbird





Begin forwarded message:


From: Guy Schlosser <guyster@bex.net>
Date: August 16, 2020 at 10:33:03 AM EDT
To: nvda@freelists.org
Subject: Drag and drop with NVDA and Thunderbird

Hi all. I am trying to re-order my columns in Mozilla Thunderbird, and having some trouble. I listen to the tutorial that I found on groups.io, and I was unable to get my NVDA cursor to go up to the header where the columns are listed. Is there something different that I have to do? When I have NVDA in object navigation mode I use the NVDA key plus number four and I cannot seem to get the NVDA cursor the top of the message list. Any help would be welcome. Is this an update thing? I think I am running NVDA 2020.1 on this particular flash drive.
Thanks,
Guy





Re: Drag and drop with NVDA and Thunderbird

Gene
 

I'm not sure just what you are trying to do. I've seldom looked at that part of the Thunderbird interface. Nvda key 4 doesn't move you to the top of anything. It moves you to the left by object. NVEDA key 6b moves you to the right by object. NVDA key 2 8 moves you up by object, NVDA key 2 moves you down.
To move within an object, if you can, you use just the numpad keys themselves.

There is, however an add-on, I don't know if it is an NVDA or a Mozilla add-on, but I think its an NVDA add-on, that removes all this nonsense, otherwise reqquired. It allows you to reorder columns easily. I say nonsense because if Mozilla would make this operation accessible, none of this would be necessary. This problem has existed for years. But where are they in making this operation accessible?

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Guy Schlosser
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 10:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Drag and drop with NVDA and Thunderbird





Begin forwarded message:


From: Guy Schlosser <guyster@bex.net>
Date: August 16, 2020 at 10:33:03 AM EDT
To: nvda@freelists.org
Subject: Drag and drop with NVDA and Thunderbird

Hi all. I am trying to re-order my columns in Mozilla Thunderbird, and having some trouble. I listen to the tutorial that I found on groups.io, and I was unable to get my NVDA cursor to go up to the header where the columns are listed. Is there something different that I have to do? When I have NVDA in object navigation mode I use the NVDA key plus number four and I cannot seem to get the NVDA cursor the top of the message list. Any help would be welcome. Is this an update thing? I think I am running NVDA 2020.1 on this particular flash drive.
Thanks,
Guy


Drag and drop with NVDA and Thunderbird

Guy Schlosser
 




Begin forwarded message:

From: Guy Schlosser <guyster@...>
Date: August 16, 2020 at 10:33:03 AM EDT
To: nvda@...
Subject: Drag and drop with NVDA and Thunderbird
Hi all. I am trying to re-order my columns in Mozilla Thunderbird, and having some trouble. I listen to the tutorial that I found on groups.io, and I was unable to get my NVDA cursor to go up to the header where the columns are listed. Is there something different that I have to do? When I have NVDA in object navigation mode I use the NVDA key plus number four and I cannot seem to get the NVDA cursor  the top of the message list. Any help would be welcome. Is this an update thing? I think I am running NVDA 2020.1 on this particular flash drive.
Thanks,
Guy

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