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Re: Youtube - how to navigate

Reinaldo Alves
 

Hi Ralf, I do appreciate your response. That works now !

I really tried to find these, she will be happy !

thanks,

Reinaldo

Em qua., 12 de fev. de 2020 às 16:54, Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...> escreveu:

When you open youtube with a video following hotkeys are valid, but sure you go in focus mode when you enter the pade with NVDA-space:

K – stops/starts the video

F – go to full screen or back to normal screen

Shift-n – go to the next video

Shift-v – go to the previous video

Arrow up and down – raise or lower the youtube volume

 

There are some other hotkeys and you can find them by entering “shortcuts youtube” in google. Don’t forget they only work when in focus mode.

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of rbalves66@...
Sent: Mittwoch, 12. Februar 2020 16:22
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Youtube - how to navigate

 

Hi, my wife has low vision and depends on NVDA to navigate. Most of the use is in Youtube.

Apparently, something is not working as previously with the mouse pointer. When watching a video in Youtube, she used to move the mouse to the videos listed on the right side of the Youtube page and click on the mouse, to go to the next or another video. NVDA would read the content of the videos...

Now, the cursor when you move to the videos on the right, a hand pointer is shown, so NVDA says  "Cursor unknown", so it does not read what the title of the video is.

Is there a way to resolve this hand pointer of the mouse and change it to the standard cursor, so NVDA could read it correctly ?

If not, then what would be the Keys to use to navigate inside Youtube ?

I am not an expert in NVDA, so bear with me folks...

thanks,

Reinaldo


Re: Youtube - how to navigate

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

When you open youtube with a video following hotkeys are valid, but sure you go in focus mode when you enter the pade with NVDA-space:

K – stops/starts the video

F – go to full screen or back to normal screen

Shift-n – go to the next video

Shift-v – go to the previous video

Arrow up and down – raise or lower the youtube volume

 

There are some other hotkeys and you can find them by entering “shortcuts youtube” in google. Don’t forget they only work when in focus mode.

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of rbalves66@...
Sent: Mittwoch, 12. Februar 2020 16:22
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Youtube - how to navigate

 

Hi, my wife has low vision and depends on NVDA to navigate. Most of the use is in Youtube.

Apparently, something is not working as previously with the mouse pointer. When watching a video in Youtube, she used to move the mouse to the videos listed on the right side of the Youtube page and click on the mouse, to go to the next or another video. NVDA would read the content of the videos...

Now, the cursor when you move to the videos on the right, a hand pointer is shown, so NVDA says  "Cursor unknown", so it does not read what the title of the video is.

Is there a way to resolve this hand pointer of the mouse and change it to the standard cursor, so NVDA could read it correctly ?

If not, then what would be the Keys to use to navigate inside Youtube ?

I am not an expert in NVDA, so bear with me folks...

thanks,

Reinaldo


Punctuation Symbols Changing Pronounciations

David Ouimet
 

Hi, I was able to change tick to apostrophe in the Punctuation Symbol Pronounciation  preference setting. There is quite a few steps when wanting to change the sound of a symbol or punctuation, so to change all the ones I wanted I did it editing the symbol.dic file manually. Could the way of changing the sounds be simplified, so new users would find it much easier.

I think that would be a great help for many.

 

Thanks, David Ouimet


Re: Observations with ETI eloquence add on.

Richard Wells
 

I completely confirm everything Sue is experiencing, except that the
SAPI5 Eloquence does not exhibit this behavior, while the directly
supported Eloquence Add-on does.

On 2/12/2020 12:58 PM, Sue J. Ward wrote:
 Hello am noticing some things when I did update to the latest ETI
Eloquence add on that works with NVDA 2019.3. Sometimes whenever am I
reading something on a webpage or tabbing through folders in
Thunderbird the add on will stop working and when ever that happens I
have to restart NVDA. It has happened to me for the past week and at
least seven times a day it is driving me crazy. I don't know who is
behind this but it could use some help in getting stuff straightened
out. I also noticed whenever I raise the pitch to a percentage in the
speech settings it does not do anything when I come a across a capital
letter it does not do that. I also noticed in the Sapi 5 eloquence
driver as well. In the old add on I did not notice anything like this.
I am not a developer am just an average home user so if anyone has a 
email address so I can contact who works on the add on maybe I could
contact them and let them know what I am noticing. Thank you.
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Re: Donation Too nerve wracking

Clive May
 

Hi

I agree with this.  I have been using speech to access computers since the early 1980s so I can in no way be considered a newby or beginner but even so my fingers walk very softly over the keys while making donations.  There is just something anxiety provoking about the way the page is set out. There is almost a "hard sell" feel to the page which I dislike.

On 10/02/2020 16:13, David Griffith wrote:
This may be just a personal problem with my skills but I have avoided regular donating, as was my previous practice with the last couple of NVDA updates because of difficulties with the NVDA Donation page.
Today guilt took over as I downloaded the latest update to 19.3 and decided to bite the bullet and try and donate again.
I am afraid that yet again the experience was yet again a bit nerve wracking.
For me the personal problem is that the default donations the page tries to funnel me towards are far too expensive for me. These high default options especially on a regular basis provide some anxiety.
Even the other amount field is unhelpfully filled with a $200 amount which I inadvertently nearly processed with my PayPal and was only then able to rescue from my one touch PayPal page with a rapid page closure.
Rattled I then tried to enter a measly $10 as a safe test amount only to realise that this time I was about to commit $10200 to NVDA Access.
In the end I was able to retrieve the situation and only donate $10 which is less than I would normally donate but was based on my profound nervousness with the page.
It just seems to me that this page should be easy for everybody to use , no matter what their skill level, a simple safe process for people to donate whatever amount they feel comfortable in doing.
I am sure that most people , certainly on this list, will not share these problems and deny any difficulties but I wonder how true this is for generalised NVDA users across the globe.
This funnelling of people toward larger default payments may be worth it in the larger scheme it generates more income I suppose but it does seem odd to me and has acted as a disincentive to donate personally.
David Griffith
.



Youtube - how to navigate

Reinaldo Alves
 

Hi, my wife has low vision and depends on NVDA to navigate. Most of the use is in Youtube.

Apparently, something is not working as previously with the mouse pointer. When watching a video in Youtube, she used to move the mouse to the videos listed on the right side of the Youtube page and click on the mouse, to go to the next or another video. NVDA would read the content of the videos...

Now, the cursor when you move to the videos on the right, a hand pointer is shown, so NVDA says  "Cursor unknown", so it does not read what the title of the video is.

Is there a way to resolve this hand pointer of the mouse and change it to the standard cursor, so NVDA could read it correctly ?

If not, then what would be the Keys to use to navigate inside Youtube ?

I am not an expert in NVDA, so bear with me folks...

thanks,

Reinaldo


Python 3 version of Tony Malykh's Bluetooth Audio add-on

Kara Goldfinch
 

Hi everyone.

Not sure if this is the right place to mention this, but Tony Malykh has made his Bluetooth Audio add-on compatible with NVDA 2019.3.

It's not currently on the official add-ons page, but you can download it from his Github page at:

https://github.com/mltony/nvda-bluetooth-audio/releases/latest/download/bluetoothaudio.nvda-addon.

All the best,

Kara


Re: Observations with ETI eloquence add on.

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

Try this open Eloquence and uncheck everything that you have checked. Then press ctrl+insert+v, tab twice, make sure it is pointing to ETI Eloquence and go through  and set all your other changes.

 

******

If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the learning start?

 

From: Sue J. Ward
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 12:02 PM
To: nvda groups
Subject: [nvda] Observations with ETI eloquence add on.

 

  Hello am noticing some things when I did update to the latest ETI

Eloquence add on that works with NVDA 2019.3. Sometimes whenever am I

reading something on a webpage or tabbing through folders in Thunderbird

the add on will stop working and when ever that happens I have to

restart NVDA. It has happened to me for the past week and at least seven

times a day it is driving me crazy. I don't know who is behind this but

it could use some help in getting stuff straightened out. I also noticed

whenever I raise the pitch to a percentage in the speech settings it

does not do anything when I come a across a capital letter it does not

do that. I also noticed in the Sapi 5 eloquence driver as well. In the

old add on I did not notice anything like this. I am not a developer am

just an average home user so if anyone has a  email address so I can

contact who works on the add on maybe I could contact them and let them

know what I am noticing. Thank you.

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Observations with ETI eloquence add on.

Sue J. Ward
 

Hello am noticing some things when I did update to the latest ETI Eloquence add on that works with NVDA 2019.3. Sometimes whenever am I reading something on a webpage or tabbing through folders in Thunderbird the add on will stop working and when ever that happens I have to restart NVDA. It has happened to me for the past week and at least seven times a day it is driving me crazy. I don't know who is behind this but it could use some help in getting stuff straightened out. I also noticed whenever I raise the pitch to a percentage in the speech settings it does not do anything when I come a across a capital letter it does not do that. I also noticed in the Sapi 5 eloquence driver as well. In the old add on I did not notice anything like this. I am not a developer am just an average home user so if anyone has a email address so I can contact who works on the add on maybe I could contact them and let them know what I am noticing. Thank you.
____________________________________________________________
1 Simple Trick Removes Eye Bags and Lip Lines in Seconds
bevhillsmd.com
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5e444aec116064aeb66dest01vuc


Re: how to disable announcing of battery charging/not charging

Samuel Kacer
 

Thanks to you all for the suggestions.

@Tyler Spivey  Your trick works and is exactly the thing I was looking for.

To the others, I appreciate the suggestions for checking what the problem with the battery was, even though that's not what I was looking for, but it is appreciated none the less.

Today the mysterious battery problems stopped, mysteriously. Yesterday while this was going on, storm Ciara was raging outside, so maybe it was affecting the electric lines in some way and that's what was causing the faulty behaviour.

On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 1:48 AM Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
I'd concur with wanting to get to the root cause - stopping NVDA reporting whether the battery is charging or not will only silence the symptom, not fix the problem.

Check your battery, cable, transformer and power point.  Make sure everything is connected tightly etc - if you can replace any one of those things conveniently, that can at least rule that item out (eg I expect you should be able to plug it into a different power point to see if it keeps happening, which will at least confirm the powerpoint is ok).

On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 7:49 AM Tyler Spivey <tspivey@...> wrote:

Pop into the python console and paste this in, pressing enter after:


import winKernel;winKernel.GetSystemPowerStatus = lambda x: None


The worst that will happen is that NVDA will break, requiring a restart. No big deal.


On 2/11/2020 12:32 PM, Samuel Kacer wrote:
Hello,

my laptop seems to be going a bit haywire. Every couple seconds the battery goes from charging to not charging and back again. NVDA announcing this each time is extremely annoying.

I tried checking NVDA settings, but couldn't find anything. Is it possible to disable NVDA automatically announcing when battery starts/stops charging?

Much appreciated,
Sam



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



Re: A solution for read subtitles with NVDA, the program Pot Player

yunus Emre
 

Hello, i am watching things with subtitles for a year or longer. If anyone needs any help about potplayer I'd like to help.
I tried to tell to developer make able us to read two subtitles at the sametimes but he's ignoring that sadly.


Re: Remote 2.3 released.

Gene
 

Modern doesn't mean now in that context.  it means writing with certain characteristics, thhough they may vary, but Stravinsky would be considered modern and Rite of Spring was composed early in the Twentieth Century. 
 
Modern literature would refer to a good deal of writing in the Twentieth century. 
 
In the context of computer programs, which is a different context with different usage, modern NVDA implies that older versions are far behind the times and inferior.  Not necessarily, depending on how the user uses the version or versions . 
 
I still use a quite old version of NVDA because I don't need a newer one with the programs and Windows versions I use and it does certain things more smoothly, such as how it works with my e-mail program.  I don't consider it not to be modern.  It is an old version, which has very different connotations. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message ------
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote 2.3 released.

I like modern better. Youhave modden classical music not current classical music for example, moddern meaning, in this case, now.

Take care

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to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

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On 12 Feb 2020, at 9:12, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
"Current" makes more sense... at least for now. There will come a time when we will update to a newer Python 3.x release, and that'll change what "current" means by then.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Cordelia Scharpf
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote 2.3 released.

Hi,
I see where "modern" comes from, but wonder whether "current" might be more appropriate. "Modern" being preciously relative, "current" reflects the present, i.e., here and now.
Cordelia

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 5:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote 2.3 released.

Hi,
That's an interesting point. I think part of the reason for labeling it that way is due to Python 2 versus Python 3 - the former is ancient now, and the latter is modern.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 8:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote 2.3 released.

I'm not thrilled that this add-on is said to work with "modern" NVDA, as some folks think 2019.2.1 is pretty modern already. Why can't that page just say 2019.3 and above, and be done with it?

On 2/11/2020 3:53 PM, Robert Kingett wrote:

They just tweeted this out. This new version will work with the new
NVDA. Below is the download page.

https://nvdaremote.com/download/


Re: Remote 2.3 released.

Sarah k Alawami
 

I like modern better. Youhave modden classical music not current classical music for example, moddern meaning, in this case, now.

Take care

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 12 Feb 2020, at 9:12, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
"Current" makes more sense... at least for now. There will come a time when we will update to a newer Python 3.x release, and that'll change what "current" means by then.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Cordelia Scharpf
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote 2.3 released.

Hi,
I see where "modern" comes from, but wonder whether "current" might be more appropriate. "Modern" being preciously relative, "current" reflects the present, i.e., here and now.
Cordelia

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 5:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote 2.3 released.

Hi,
That's an interesting point. I think part of the reason for labeling it that way is due to Python 2 versus Python 3 - the former is ancient now, and the latter is modern.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 8:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote 2.3 released.

I'm not thrilled that this add-on is said to work with "modern" NVDA, as some folks think 2019.2.1 is pretty modern already. Why can't that page just say 2019.3 and above, and be done with it?

On 2/11/2020 3:53 PM, Robert Kingett wrote:

They just tweeted this out. This new version will work with the new
NVDA. Below is the download page.

https://nvdaremote.com/download/


Re: NVDA 2019.3.1 and Chrome 80

Clarissa Mitchell
 

Arrow keys don't work for me. Or when they do, it says "not checked"
like I didn't even check the box. I thought the problem might be with
my keyboard, so I put new batteries in it. But the problem persists.
Now I know I'm not the only one with this issue. Sometimes my tab key
doesn't work, and sometimes I can't even get the page in NVDA's focus,
and pressing F6 only cycles through address bar and tab control. It
doesn't bring me back to the full page. After I restart NVDA, it
works. Something weird is definitely going on here.



On 2/11/20, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
Tryu up and down arrowing to get the button to click. I have had this
problem with 19.2 and any web page like interface now for months.

Take care

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our
[website.](http://www.tffppodcast.com) This is also our libsyn page as
well.

to subscribe to the feed click [here](http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp)

Our [telegram](https://t.me/tffppodcast) channel is also a good place
for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our [discord](https://discord.gg/dfr7MaVK) is where you will know when
we go live on [twitch.](twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel
a follow and see what is up there.


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On 11 Feb 2020, at 15:17, Clarissa Mitchell wrote:

I am having the following issue with the new NVDA update and the
latest update to the Chrome browser. If I'm filling out a long form
that has several pages, a survey for instance, I try to check a box or
a radio button, and NVDA will not say "checked". It acts like nothing
happened. And if I press the "next" button, it seems like nothing
happens. If I go to the NVDA menu or restart NVDA, and go back to the
browser window, the refreshed page will display. I've had to restart
NVDA countless times just for one survey. What could be causing this,
and is anyone else having this issue with Chrome? It seems to work
fine on Firefox.

Google Chrome Version: 80.0.3987.100
NVDA version: 2019.3.1

Thanks.



I tried insert+space, and that didn't do the trick either.


Re: Remote 2.3 released.

 

Hi,
"Current" makes more sense... at least for now. There will come a time when we will update to a newer Python 3.x release, and that'll change what "current" means by then.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cordelia Scharpf
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 9:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote 2.3 released.

Hi,
I see where "modern" comes from, but wonder whether "current" might be more appropriate. "Modern" being preciously relative, "current" reflects the present, i.e., here and now.
Cordelia

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 5:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote 2.3 released.

Hi,
That's an interesting point. I think part of the reason for labeling it that way is due to Python 2 versus Python 3 - the former is ancient now, and the latter is modern.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 8:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote 2.3 released.

I'm not thrilled that this add-on is said to work with "modern" NVDA, as some folks think 2019.2.1 is pretty modern already. Why can't that page just say 2019.3 and above, and be done with it?


On 2/11/2020 3:53 PM, Robert Kingett wrote:

They just tweeted this out. This new version will work with the new
NVDA. Below is the download page.

https://nvdaremote.com/download/


Re: Remote 2.3 released.

Cordelia Scharpf
 

Hi,
I see where "modern" comes from, but wonder whether "current" might be more appropriate. "Modern" being preciously relative, "current" reflects the present, i.e., here and now.
Cordelia

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 5:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote 2.3 released.

Hi,
That's an interesting point. I think part of the reason for labeling it that way is due to Python 2 versus Python 3 - the former is ancient now, and the latter is modern.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 8:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote 2.3 released.

I'm not thrilled that this add-on is said to work with "modern" NVDA, as some folks think 2019.2.1 is pretty modern already. Why can't that page just say 2019.3 and above, and be done with it?


On 2/11/2020 3:53 PM, Robert Kingett wrote:

They just tweeted this out. This new version will work with the new
NVDA. Below is the download page.

https://nvdaremote.com/download/


Re: Remote 2.3 released.

 

Hi,
That's an interesting point. I think part of the reason for labeling it that way is due to Python 2 versus Python 3 - the former is ancient now, and the latter is modern.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Matzura
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 8:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remote 2.3 released.

I'm not thrilled that this add-on is said to work with "modern" NVDA, as some folks think 2019.2.1 is pretty modern already. Why can't that page just say 2019.3 and above, and be done with it?


On 2/11/2020 3:53 PM, Robert Kingett wrote:

They just tweeted this out. This new version will work with the new
NVDA. Below is the download page.

https://nvdaremote.com/download/


Re: special characters and punctuation feedback while typing in v2019.3.1

Gene
 

I don't know how special characters were handled previously, I don't use them.  But the suggestion sounds like a very good one. 
 
Aside from that, I think that how certain default behaviors are reached would be a good topic for discussion.  At times, I think it would be a good idea to place certain proposed behaviors before a panel of users or on a list like this as advisory.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 6:41 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] special characters and punctuation feedback while typing in v2019.3.1

Hi,


as I tryed to state, I want typed characters set to off! :-)

But still one has to get feedback on typed characters in word mode - they cannot be ignored, they have to be spoken as words then.

If someone wants spoken words feedback, it does not mean, that he does not care about which characters he typed ;-) ...as this smiley for example. I now did not hear if it was typed or not. I also do not get feedback about the "," and "." ...this is defenitely not how someone can write, even in speak-words mode.


I will restart the computer, but would be very surprised if that changes something ...

cheers

Martin


Am 12.02.2020 um 12:43 schrieb Quentin Christensen:
Hi Martin,

Have you restarted the computer since you updated NVDA?  I just tried type a. with speak typed characters on, and NVDA read "A dot" just as you expected.  I don't have Eloquence, but it worked the same with eSpeak and with Windows OneCore voices.

Occasionally you get random bugs (such as this) after installing or updating the software but before restarting the computer.  Restarting the computer shuts everything down and loads again from scratch so usually fixes up these random on-off issues.

Also double check that you have speak typed characters on as well :)

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:00 PM Martin Thomas Swaton <list@...> wrote:
Hi,


I searched for this problem, but could not find a topic on it ... so if
this already was asked, I am sorry...


Since the update the feedback of special characters and punctuation
while typing has changed when you set the feedback to "words" and
disable "characters".


normally special characters and punctuation was spoken emedeately on
their keypress together with any other characters, that have been typed
before.


example of old behaviour:

type: a.

feedback: a dot


new behavour:

type: a.

feedback: a


this is very problematic as you now do not get any feedback on typed
special characters and punctuation. Try to type a smiley, you won't hear
it. just silence.


Tried that with eloquence and espeak. So the speech/voice does not matter.


Hope this can be fixed

and additionally I would suggest to add a option/choice to choose wether
special characters (and numbers) should be spoken emedeately on their
keypress or together with other characters as whole words. So users
could decide, which they prefer, as there where discussions in the past
about that.


but right now it would be important to get back any feedback for theese
special characters and punctuation.


cheers

Martin








--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



Re: Remote 2.3 released.

Steve Matzura
 

I'm not thrilled that this add-on is said to work with "modern" NVDA, as some folks think 2019.2.1 is pretty modern already. Why can't that page just say 2019.3 and above, and be done with it?

On 2/11/2020 3:53 PM, Robert Kingett wrote:

They just tweeted this out. This new version will work with the new NVDA. Below is the download page.

https://nvdaremote.com/download/


Re: special characters and punctuation feedback while typing in v2019.3.1

Gene
 

I would imagine there is a setting to change this behavior but it is another example of a very poor choice for the default being chosen.  Are such choices reviewed by a panel of users or perhaps sent to a list like this?  How are such choices made?  At times defaults are chosen that I consider very poor.
 
Gene
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Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 5:00 AM
Subject: [nvda] special characters and punctuation feedback while typing in v2019.3.1

Hi,


I searched for this problem, but could not find a topic on it ... so if
this already was asked, I am sorry...


Since the update the feedback of special characters and punctuation
while typing has changed when you set the feedback to "words" and
disable "characters".


normally special characters and punctuation was spoken emedeately on
their keypress together with any other characters, that have been typed
before.


example of old behaviour:

type: a.

feedback: a dot


new behavour:

type: a.

feedback: a


this is very problematic as you now do not get any feedback on typed
special characters and punctuation. Try to type a smiley, you won't hear
it. just silence.


Tried that with eloquence and espeak. So the speech/voice does not matter.


Hope this can be fixed

and additionally I would suggest to add a option/choice to choose wether
special characters (and numbers) should be spoken emedeately on their
keypress or together with other characters as whole words. So users
could decide, which they prefer, as there where discussions in the past
about that.


but right now it would be important to get back any feedback for theese
special characters and punctuation.


cheers

Martin





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