On 12 Feb 2020, at 04:36, Michael Maslo <michaelmaslo04@...> wrote:



I am new to nVda and was wondering where I would get Java access Bridge From? Also I have seen a application like this before in the office I work at.I was wondering the Purpose of this application?

Any help would be appreciated.                                                             

Sincerely,

Michael maslo

On Feb 11, 2020, at 19:59, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:



What is the Java program you are using which doesn't work?  Have you got a link to its website please?

Also have you restarted your computer since updating NVDA?  (It's worth doing that just because sometimes random things can misbehave in that time between updating software and restarting the PC).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 12:27 PM heike67 <heikesb1967@...> wrote:

hello
i have installed version 2019.3 and in >what's new in nvda< i can read that java access bridge is accessible now for nvda. i started an application that needs java to see if there are changes, it doesn't recognized anymore and java access bridge wasn't deactivated in ease of access center. some hours before it has still worked. can someone please help?
sorry if my english is not perfect.

--

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Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc2-now-available-for-testing/

Web: www.nvaccess.org 

Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess

Hello,

as anounced I looked up the version of NVDA where it last worked correctly:

nvda v2019.2.1 gives the feedback as expected.

a "." is spoken emedeately. Other "words" are spoken on space or at the keypress of such special characters.

In V2019.3.1 special characters still trigger speaking of words, but are not spoken themselves.

This should be fixed as soon as possible as typing in word mode is no longer manageable.

cheers

Martin

Hi again,

 

the reboot did not change anything - as expected.

 

@Ralf I had 2019.2 (do not know which one exactly) installed on this computer (and still have it on my notebook) and there it works as expected.

   when I get back home, I can look at the version of nvda where it worked last.

 

cheers

Martin

 

 

 

Am 12.02.2020 um 13:04 schrieb Ralf Kefferpuetz:

Hi Quentin,

I understood Martin that he discovers that with typed chars off and typed words on. And that can beconfirmed at my end, but it was the same under 2019.2.1

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Mittwoch, 12. Februar 2020 12:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] special characters and punctuation feedback while typing in v2019.3.1

 

Hi Martin,

 

Have you restarted the computer since you updated NVDA?  I just tried type a. with speak typed characters on, and NVDA read "A dot" just as you expected.  I don't have Eloquence, but it worked the same with eSpeak and with Windows OneCore voices.

 

Occasionally you get random bugs (such as this) after installing or updating the software but before restarting the computer.  Restarting the computer shuts everything down and loads again from scratch so usually fixes up these random on-off issues.

 

Also double check that you have speak typed characters on as well :)

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:00 PM Martin Thomas Swaton <list@...> wrote:

Hi,


I searched for this problem, but could not find a topic on it ... so if
this already was asked, I am sorry...


Since the update the feedback of special characters and punctuation
while typing has changed when you set the feedback to "words" and
disable "characters".


normally special characters and punctuation was spoken emedeately on
their keypress together with any other characters, that have been typed
before.


example of old behaviour:

type: a.

feedback: a dot


new behavour:

type: a.

feedback: a


this is very problematic as you now do not get any feedback on typed
special characters and punctuation. Try to type a smiley, you won't hear
it. just silence.


Tried that with eloquence and espeak. So the speech/voice does not matter.


Hope this can be fixed

and additionally I would suggest to add a option/choice to choose wether
special characters (and numbers) should be spoken emedeately on their
keypress or together with other characters as whole words. So users
could decide, which they prefer, as there where discussions in the past
about that.


but right now it would be important to get back any feedback for theese
special characters and punctuation.


cheers

Martin

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc2-now-available-for-testing/

 

Web: www.nvaccess.org 

Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess

Hi again,

the reboot did not change anything - as expected.

@Ralf I had 2019.2 (do not know which one exactly) installed on this computer (and still have it on my notebook) and there it works as expected.

   when I get back home, I can look at the version of nvda where it worked last.

cheers

Martin

Am 12.02.2020 um 13:04 schrieb Ralf Kefferpuetz:

Hi Quentin,

I understood Martin that he discovers that with typed chars off and typed words on. And that can beconfirmed at my end, but it was the same under 2019.2.1

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Mittwoch, 12. Februar 2020 12:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] special characters and punctuation feedback while typing in v2019.3.1

 

Hi Martin,

 

Have you restarted the computer since you updated NVDA?  I just tried type a. with speak typed characters on, and NVDA read "A dot" just as you expected.  I don't have Eloquence, but it worked the same with eSpeak and with Windows OneCore voices.

 

Occasionally you get random bugs (such as this) after installing or updating the software but before restarting the computer.  Restarting the computer shuts everything down and loads again from scratch so usually fixes up these random on-off issues.

 

Also double check that you have speak typed characters on as well :)

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:00 PM Martin Thomas Swaton <list@...> wrote:

Hi,


I searched for this problem, but could not find a topic on it ... so if
this already was asked, I am sorry...


Since the update the feedback of special characters and punctuation
while typing has changed when you set the feedback to "words" and
disable "characters".


normally special characters and punctuation was spoken emedeately on
their keypress together with any other characters, that have been typed
before.


example of old behaviour:

type: a.

feedback: a dot


new behavour:

type: a.

feedback: a


this is very problematic as you now do not get any feedback on typed
special characters and punctuation. Try to type a smiley, you won't hear
it. just silence.


Tried that with eloquence and espeak. So the speech/voice does not matter.


Hope this can be fixed

and additionally I would suggest to add a option/choice to choose wether
special characters (and numbers) should be spoken emedeately on their
keypress or together with other characters as whole words. So users
could decide, which they prefer, as there where discussions in the past
about that.


but right now it would be important to get back any feedback for theese
special characters and punctuation.


cheers

Martin

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc2-now-available-for-testing/

 

Web: www.nvaccess.org 

Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess

Hi Rui,

Are you talking when writing in a browser, in Skype and so on?

it does not matter where - right now I write in thunderbird, I also tryed firefox and Notebad.

It is a global behaviour

best,

Martin

Rui Fontes


Às 11:00 de 12/02/2020, Martin Thomas Swaton escreveu:

Hi,


I searched for this problem, but could not find a topic on it ... so if this already was asked, I am sorry...


Since the update the feedback of special characters and punctuation while typing has changed when you set the feedback to "words" and disable "characters".


normally special characters and punctuation was spoken emedeately on their keypress together with any other characters, that have been typed before.


example of old behaviour:

type: a.

feedback: a dot
a.aa a.a.

new behavour:

type: a.

feedback: a


this is very problematic as you now do not get any feedback on typed special characters and punctuation. Try to type a smiley, you won't hear it. just silence.


Tried that with eloquence and espeak. So the speech/voice does not matter.


Hope this can be fixed

and additionally I would suggest to add a option/choice to choose wether special characters (and numbers) should be spoken emedeately on their keypress or together with other characters as whole words. So users could decide, which they prefer, as there where discussions in the past about that.


but right now it would be important to get back any feedback for theese special characters and punctuation.


cheers

Martin

Hi Quentin,

I understood Martin that he discovers that with typed chars off and typed words on. And that can beconfirmed at my end, but it was the same under 2019.2.1

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Mittwoch, 12. Februar 2020 12:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] special characters and punctuation feedback while typing in v2019.3.1

 

Hi Martin,

 

Have you restarted the computer since you updated NVDA?  I just tried type a. with speak typed characters on, and NVDA read "A dot" just as you expected.  I don't have Eloquence, but it worked the same with eSpeak and with Windows OneCore voices.

 

Occasionally you get random bugs (such as this) after installing or updating the software but before restarting the computer.  Restarting the computer shuts everything down and loads again from scratch so usually fixes up these random on-off issues.

 

Also double check that you have speak typed characters on as well :)

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:00 PM Martin Thomas Swaton <list@...> wrote:

Hi,


I searched for this problem, but could not find a topic on it ... so if
this already was asked, I am sorry...


Since the update the feedback of special characters and punctuation
while typing has changed when you set the feedback to "words" and
disable "characters".


normally special characters and punctuation was spoken emedeately on
their keypress together with any other characters, that have been typed
before.


example of old behaviour:

type: a.

feedback: a dot


new behavour:

type: a.

feedback: a


this is very problematic as you now do not get any feedback on typed
special characters and punctuation. Try to type a smiley, you won't hear
it. just silence.


Tried that with eloquence and espeak. So the speech/voice does not matter.


Hope this can be fixed

and additionally I would suggest to add a option/choice to choose wether
special characters (and numbers) should be spoken emedeately on their
keypress or together with other characters as whole words. So users
could decide, which they prefer, as there where discussions in the past
about that.


but right now it would be important to get back any feedback for theese
special characters and punctuation.


cheers

Martin

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc2-now-available-for-testing/

 

Web: www.nvaccess.org 

Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess

Hi Martin,

Have you restarted the computer since you updated NVDA?  I just tried type a. with speak typed characters on, and NVDA read "A dot" just as you expected.  I don't have Eloquence, but it worked the same with eSpeak and with Windows OneCore voices.

Occasionally you get random bugs (such as this) after installing or updating the software but before restarting the computer.  Restarting the computer shuts everything down and loads again from scratch so usually fixes up these random on-off issues.

Also double check that you have speak typed characters on as well :)

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:00 PM Martin Thomas Swaton <list@...> wrote:

Hi,


I searched for this problem, but could not find a topic on it ... so if
this already was asked, I am sorry...


Since the update the feedback of special characters and punctuation
while typing has changed when you set the feedback to "words" and
disable "characters".


normally special characters and punctuation was spoken emedeately on
their keypress together with any other characters, that have been typed
before.


example of old behaviour:

type: a.

feedback: a dot


new behavour:

type: a.

feedback: a


this is very problematic as you now do not get any feedback on typed
special characters and punctuation. Try to type a smiley, you won't hear
it. just silence.


Tried that with eloquence and espeak. So the speech/voice does not matter.


Hope this can be fixed

and additionally I would suggest to add a option/choice to choose wether
special characters (and numbers) should be spoken emedeately on their
keypress or together with other characters as whole words. So users
could decide, which they prefer, as there where discussions in the past
about that.


but right now it would be important to get back any feedback for theese
special characters and punctuation.


cheers

Martin

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc2-now-available-for-testing/

Web: www.nvaccess.org 

Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Mittwoch, 12. Februar 2020 12:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] special characters and punctuation feedback while typing in v2019.3.1

--

Hello Rui, I have try to remove the activation but it doesn't work. Now I can't do anything with my activation, I can't check activation count or delete it and I can't change my credential from the menu too. I tried to remove the driver and reinstall it but it just doesn't work.

Rui, an important question:
if a user install the new driver, is it possible to deactivate the old license from the new driver?

Il 12/02/2020 02:05, Rui Fontes ha scritto:

Hello!


The activation is removed through the NVDA/Vocalizer Expressive menu.

It will take some hours to be available again, and you will receive an e-mail notifying you that the activation is again available...


Best regards,

Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.



Às 04:23 de 11/02/2020, Ibrahim Abedrabbo escreveu:

Sorry Rui,
I downloaded the vocalizer add on you recommended in your link and re-downloaded the voices I need and installed all of them, but it did not help. This time I did not get a message that they are not compatible, but I got no speech at all. How do I remove the installation activation of the vocalizer so that I can reuse it?  I do not want to lose one activation trying and failing.
I now reinstalled NVDA 2019.2 and everything is working normal.
Where can I find the instruction on how to remove the activation and restore it in another installation?

Regards,
Ibrahim

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 4:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2019.3 vocalizer, and remote support

Hello!

You can get a NVDA 2019.3.1 compatible version at:
https://www.tiflotecnia.net/Instal/vocalizer_expressive_driver-3.1.0.nvda-addon

It still have one or two problems, but we are taking care of them...

Best regards,
Costumer support
Tiflotecnia, Lda.

Às 13:26 de 10/02/2020, David Mehler escreveu:

Hello,

I just updated to nvda 2019.3 and a bunch of my addons which wouldn't
update just broke/disabled. One of them is my nuance vocalizer drivers
and synth. I'm not seeing anything on addons.nvda-project.org on this.
Another is nvda remote support. Does this addon have a 2019.3
compatible version? I just checked addons.nvda-project.org and stable
looks like it isn't, actually i'm not seeing a download for that at
all.

Suggestions welcome.

Thanks.
Dave.

Hi,


I searched for this problem, but could not find a topic on it ... so if this already was asked, I am sorry...


Since the update the feedback of special characters and punctuation while typing has changed when you set the feedback to "words" and disable "characters".


normally special characters and punctuation was spoken emedeately on their keypress together with any other characters, that have been typed before.


example of old behaviour:

type: a.

feedback: a dot


new behavour:

type: a.

feedback: a


this is very problematic as you now do not get any feedback on typed special characters and punctuation. Try to type a smiley, you won't hear it. just silence.


Tried that with eloquence and espeak. So the speech/voice does not matter.


Hope this can be fixed

and additionally I would suggest to add a option/choice to choose wether special characters (and numbers) should be spoken emedeately on their keypress or together with other characters as whole words. So users could decide, which they prefer, as there where discussions in the past about that.


but right now it would be important to get back any feedback for theese special characters and punctuation.


cheers

Martin

Hello!
The activation is removed through the NVDA/Vocalizer Expressive menu.
It will take some hours to be available again, and you will receive an e-mail notifying you that the activation is again available...
Best regards,
Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.
Às 04:23 de 11/02/2020, Ibrahim Abedrabbo escreveu:

Sorry Rui,
I downloaded the vocalizer add on you recommended in your link and re-downloaded the voices I need and installed all of them, but it did not help. This time I did not get a message that they are not compatible, but I got no speech at all. How do I remove the installation activation of the vocalizer so that I can reuse it?  I do not want to lose one activation trying and failing.
I now reinstalled NVDA 2019.2 and everything is working normal.
Where can I find the instruction on how to remove the activation and restore it in another installation?

Regards,
Ibrahim

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 4:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda 2019.3 vocalizer, and remote support

Hello!

You can get a NVDA 2019.3.1 compatible version at:
https://www.tiflotecnia.net/Instal/vocalizer_expressive_driver-3.1.0.nvda-addon

It still have one or two problems, but we are taking care of them...

Best regards,
Costumer support
Tiflotecnia, Lda.

Às 13:26 de 10/02/2020, David Mehler escreveu:

Hello,

I just updated to nvda 2019.3 and a bunch of my addons which wouldn't
update just broke/disabled. One of them is my nuance vocalizer drivers
and synth. I'm not seeing anything on addons.nvda-project.org on this.
Another is nvda remote support. Does this addon have a 2019.3
compatible version? I just checked addons.nvda-project.org and stable
looks like it isn't, actually i'm not seeing a download for that at
all.

Suggestions welcome.

Thanks.
Dave.

Hello Rui, I have try to remove the activation but it doesn't work. Now I can't do anything with my activation, I can't check activation count or delete it and I can't change my credential from the menu too. I tried to remove the driver and reinstall it but it just doesn't work.

On Feb 11, 2020, at 19:59, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:



What is the Java program you are using which doesn't work?  Have you got a link to its website please?

Also have you restarted your computer since updating NVDA?  (It's worth doing that just because sometimes random things can misbehave in that time between updating software and restarting the PC).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 12:27 PM heike67 <heikesb1967@...> wrote:

hello
i have installed version 2019.3 and in >what's new in nvda< i can read that java access bridge is accessible now for nvda. i started an application that needs java to see if there are changes, it doesn't recognized anymore and java access bridge wasn't deactivated in ease of access center. some hours before it has still worked. can someone please help?
sorry if my english is not perfect.

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc2-now-available-for-testing/

Web: www.nvaccess.org 

Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess