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Re: microsoft edge saying loading compleat

 

Hi,
A workaround is already available: I know I'm advertising this a lot, but install Windows 10 App Essentials, then open NVDA menu/Preferences/Settings/Object Presentation and turn off "report notifications". If you do turn this off, you won't be able to hear things such as volume changes from File Explorer, notifications from many apps, and so on (technical: this is UIA notification event).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] microsoft edge saying loading compleat

I don't know if their is a way to do this. Narrator does the same thing.

On 7/30/2020 11:24 AM, Bobby Vinton wrote:
Hay I am using the new Microsoft edge and I was wondering if you could
stop nvda from saying loading compleat every time you open or going to
a nother web page? Just let me know




Re: for Joseph Lee

 

Hi,

According to another thread, he tried. I bet it is something that will require eventual remote assistance. I won’t be able to provide such a service until mid-August at the earliest.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 10:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

Have you tried the obvious fix by running the com registration fixing tool that comes with NVDA?

 

 

 

 

 

From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: 30 July 2020 17:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

ever since getting my new HP Pavillian I have not been able to use NVDA on a web page.It says google legacy in chrome and nothing at all on any other browser. if I tab it says unknown.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:51 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

Robert. What seems to be the problem?

On 7/30/2020 5:18 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Joseph Lee says, as much as he wishes to help, he won’t be able to do so until mid-August.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

This concerns my new HP pc not liking NVDA. Does your busy schedule allow you time to remote to this pc to get an idea of where the problem lies?

 

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Re: for Joseph Lee

Chris
 

Have you tried the obvious fix by running the com registration fixing tool that comes with NVDA?

 

 

 

 

 

From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: 30 July 2020 17:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

ever since getting my new HP Pavillian I have not been able to use NVDA on a web page.It says google legacy in chrome and nothing at all on any other browser. if I tab it says unknown.

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:51 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

Robert. What seems to be the problem?

On 7/30/2020 5:18 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Joseph Lee says, as much as he wishes to help, he won’t be able to do so until mid-August.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

This concerns my new HP pc not liking NVDA. Does your busy schedule allow you time to remote to this pc to get an idea of where the problem lies?

 

******Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !

 

Family times where there is fun for every ear!
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3

 


Re: for Joseph Lee

Lino Morales
 

And I'm assuming your running latest build of Google Chrome, Edge, and FF?

On 7/30/2020 12:49 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:
ever since getting my new HP Pavillian I have not been able to use NVDA on a web page.It says google legacy in chrome and nothing at all on any other browser. if I tab it says unknown.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

Robert. What seems to be the problem?

On 7/30/2020 5:18 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Joseph Lee says, as much as he wishes to help, he won’t be able to do so until mid-August.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

This concerns my new HP pc not liking NVDA. Does your busy schedule allow you time to remote to this pc to get an idea of where the problem lies?

 

******Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !

 

Family times where there is fun for every ear!
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3


Re: microsoft edge saying loading compleat

Lino Morales
 

I don't know if their is a way to do this. Narrator does the same thing.

On 7/30/2020 11:24 AM, Bobby Vinton wrote:
Hay I am using the new Microsoft edge and I was wondering if you could stop nvda from saying loading compleat every time you open or going to a nother web page?  Just let me know



Re: for Joseph Lee

Jackie
 

Yeah, Robert--I hate to say this, but HP is known for its massive
amount of bloatware. When my dad got his, I removed it all. & I've
done likewise on other clients as well. Having thus said, though, did
you try Tyler's solution?

On 7/30/20, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
ever since getting my new HP Pavillian I have not been able to use NVDA on a
web page.It says google legacy in chrome and nothing at all on any other
browser. if I tab it says unknown.
----- Original Message -----
From: Lino Morales
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] for Joseph Lee


Robert. What seems to be the problem?


On 7/30/2020 5:18 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:



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Re: for Joseph Lee

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

ever since getting my new HP Pavillian I have not been able to use NVDA on a web page.It says google legacy in chrome and nothing at all on any other browser. if I tab it says unknown.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

Robert. What seems to be the problem?

On 7/30/2020 5:18 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Joseph Lee says, as much as he wishes to help, he won’t be able to do so until mid-August.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

This concerns my new HP pc not liking NVDA. Does your busy schedule allow you time to remote to this pc to get an idea of where the problem lies?

 

******Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !

 

Family times where there is fun for every ear!
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3


Re: nvda and browse verses focus mode and submenus: navigation of discord's submenus

Sarah k Alawami
 

Let me try that. I actually did not know that was there. I guess both I and the sighted dev learned somethingn new today lol!

Ok, in doing this, the thign won't route correctly now. I went ton my own server and the curser stays at the top

So it looks like I have to toggle this on, but toggle it off. I don't like that, but it works.

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On 30 Jul 2020, at 9:19, Tony Malykh wrote:

You might want to try "Automatically set system focus to focusable elements off" mode - NVDA+NumRow 8 -it might help prevent autoexpanding menus.

--Tony

On 7/30/2020 8:11 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Sorry about the long ish subject line. I've having a problem with discord where the menus are auto expanding. I'm using the canary version of discord but no one else either seems not to have this issue or this is a bug in nvda 20.x. I'm going to send a video of what happens, but even though the voice is fast it should still be ok.

Basically this is happening:

  1. The submenus are auto expanding.
  2. Left and right arrow are spelling the submenus out

Is there a setting in browse mode that would cause this? I've never seen this before in any app but discord and the stuff member I'm in contact with can't reproduce this on his copy of nvda 2020.
here is the video clip

Again do I have a setting wrong in browse mode? Do the discord people need to code something differently? I think I've stumped the dev I'm in talks with. I don't have any stuck keys as this also happens on my shadow.

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Re: microsoft edge saying loading compleat

Roger Stewart
 

If this could be done, I hope it is a toggle as I like to know when the page is completely loaded.
Roger

On 7/30/2020 10:24 AM, Bobby Vinton wrote:
Hay I am using the new Microsoft edge and I was wondering if you could stop nvda from saying loading compleat every time you open or going to a nother web page?  Just let me know



Re: nvda and browse verses focus mode and submenus: navigation of discord's submenus

Tony Malykh
 

You might want to try "Automatically set system focus to focusable elements off" mode - NVDA+NumRow 8 -it might help prevent autoexpanding menus.

--Tony

On 7/30/2020 8:11 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Sorry about the long ish subject line. I've having a problem with discord where the menus are auto expanding. I'm using the canary version of discord but no one else either seems not to have this issue or this is a bug in nvda 20.x. I'm going to send a video of what happens, but even though the voice is fast it should still be ok.

Basically this is happening:

  1. The submenus are auto expanding.
  2. Left and right arrow are spelling the submenus out

Is there a setting in browse mode that would cause this? I've never seen this before in any app but discord and the stuff member I'm in contact with can't reproduce this on his copy of nvda 2020.
here is the video clip

Again do I have a setting wrong in browse mode? Do the discord people need to code something differently? I think I've stumped the dev I'm in talks with. I don't have any stuck keys as this also happens on my shadow.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here


Re: for Joseph Lee

Lino Morales
 

Robert. What seems to be the problem?

On 7/30/2020 5:18 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Joseph Lee says, as much as he wishes to help, he won’t be able to do so until mid-August.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

This concerns my new HP pc not liking NVDA. Does your busy schedule allow you time to remote to this pc to get an idea of where the problem lies?

 

******Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !

 

Family times where there is fun for every ear!
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3


Re: I am needing assistance updating to the latest version of NVDA

 

And to add to Mr. Goldfield's advice, if you have an issue running the full installer for NVDA 2020.2, then manually uninstall whatever NVDA you currently have installed via Control Panel, Programs and Features, then trying to install the latest again.  But don't do that first, as an install-over install generally works just fine.
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Re: Tutorials for sighted users.

 

Not that I'm aware of.  But I can give some useful input.

Make certain that they have the latest version of NVDA and that they have gone into NVDA settings, Vision, and turned Focus Highlight, with all its options, on.  This is the easiest way for a sighted person not only to know what has focus, but what state NVDA is in on the object with focus.  If they need to, they should print out a brief cheat sheet as to what the outline colors and styles tell them about NVDA state at that moment.

I'm not quite sure which aspect of keyboard navigation you're trying to get someone to "get the hang of," but if it's quick navigation in web browsing the easiest way I've found to do that is to make the tester aware that the capability exists and give them the section from the documentation with those single key commands, and, if possible, walk them through using the most common ones on a web page or two that's fairly typical.  Things like Google Search results, using the H shortcut to move from returned item to returned item, rather than L (which will involve other links not of interest), is a good way to give a brief introduction and to show how those two differ from one another in practice.

Speaking strictly from my own experience in learning screen readers, period, the only way is to play with them and, if possible, with a bit of initial guidance (which I really didn't have) from someone who actually uses one to get across the basics of what one does day to day, and how.  It need not be a long intro, but brute force TABbing around tends to be the navigation of choice only because it's most easily stumbled upon (and it's grossly inefficient).  The web browsing single key navigation shortcuts are very easy to pick up on and use if you are made aware they are there, and someone shows you, when you need to do a "massive jump" from wherever you might be to a button, or checkbox, or whatever, that this can be achieved with much greater ease using those shortcuts than many, many hits of TAB.
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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

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microsoft edge saying loading compleat

Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...>
 

Hay I am using the new Microsoft edge and I was wondering if you could stop nvda from saying loading compleat every time you open or going to a nother web page?  Just let me know


Tutorials for sighted users.

 

Wasn't sure if this should go in the chat subgroup, but I am looking for tutorials geared towards sighted users of NVDA? I have many sighted people wanting to test with it, but they can't grasp the concept of keyboard navigation. They're still using the mouse to interact. Also, they are tabbing everywhere. Is there a tutorial for testers?


nvda and browse verses focus mode and submenus: navigation of discord's submenus

Sarah k Alawami
 

Sorry about the long ish subject line. I've having a problem with discord where the menus are auto expanding. I'm using the canary version of discord but no one else either seems not to have this issue or this is a bug in nvda 20.x. I'm going to send a video of what happens, but even though the voice is fast it should still be ok.

Basically this is happening:

  1. The submenus are auto expanding.
  2. Left and right arrow are spelling the submenus out

Is there a setting in browse mode that would cause this? I've never seen this before in any app but discord and the stuff member I'm in contact with can't reproduce this on his copy of nvda 2020.
here is the video clip

Again do I have a setting wrong in browse mode? Do the discord people need to code something differently? I think I've stumped the dev I'm in talks with. I don't have any stuck keys as this also happens on my shadow.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here


Re: unknown still here

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I recieved no error message. Not even the trace back you mentioned. That is
why I think its the PC itself.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tyler Spivey" <tspivey@pcdesk.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 12:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] unknown still here


I'm pretty sure my instructions should've worked. What happened when you
were doing that? Did it traceback or give you another form of error in
the Python console?


On 7/28/2020 1:35 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:
I just installed the very latest and I am still getting "unknown" in
Google. It announces "google legacy".when I arrow I get no result. It
has to be my pc and i don't know how. It works just fine on my Dell
Latitude.
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Re: I am needing assistance updating to the latest version of NVDA

David Goldfield
 

Betsy,

If you have not already done so I would recommend going to the NVDA Web site and downloading the full installer for 2020.2.


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On 7/30/2020 1:40 AM, Betsy Grenevitch wrote:

I have not seen any responses to my situation I posted earlier today so am assuming I did not name it a clear enough topic since I just responded to a topic I thought would get people's attention. As far as I know I have the latest version of NVDA before the latest one but could not download the latest update. I tried it two different times and got the message that my attempt to update failed. It said something about checking the log but I could not remember how to do that and most likely would not understand what it was saying. I looked at my notes and could not find how to tell which version of NVDA I have but know it is the one before this one because I always update when I am alerted to do so.


I would appreciate any assistance I can receive. Thanks.


I am currently in Oregon so am on PST.




Re: for Joseph Lee

 

Joseph Lee says, as much as he wishes to help, he won’t be able to do so until mid-August.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 1:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] for Joseph Lee

 

This concerns my new HP pc not liking NVDA. Does your busy schedule allow you time to remote to this pc to get an idea of where the problem lies?

 

******Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !

 

Family times where there is fun for every ear!
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3


for Joseph Lee

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

This concerns my new HP pc not liking NVDA. Does your busy schedule allow you time to remote to this pc to get an idea of where the problem lies?
 
******Very funny Scotty ... now beam down my clothes !
 
Family times where there is fun for every ear!
http://stream.wrighthere.net:8000/stream.mp3

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