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Re: my vocalizer expressive 1.1 version 3.14 and its attached voices no longer work with NVDA 2019.3

Brian Vogel
 

As a generic statement:  With any paid product the first thing you should do in terms of seeking a solution is to contact that company's support folks, whether by phone, e-mail, web form, or online chat.   They bear primary responsibility, and in cases like this, will be the ones who have to make changes to their own code to make it compatible with ongoing releases of the "master program" (NVDA in this case) it's supposed to work with.
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Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 
Re: my vocalizer expressive 1.1 version 3.14 and its attached voices no longer work with NVDA 2019.3

Moty Azrad
 

Dear all,

 

I have the same problem with the newest vocalizer expressive driver version 3.1.0.

I can not switch between languages, hebrew engine and English voice.

I wrote privately to tiflotecnia, and uptonow, I don’t have good solution to my and my friends vocalizer expressibe users.

I purchased only three weeks ago three activations and paid 90 Euro for it.

What can I do more to solve my and my other blind friends users?

 

Thank much for any support.

 

Moti

 

 

Moti Azrad 

Musician and Piano-Tuner         

 

motiaz@...

 

azrad_moty@...

 

Israel

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ibrahim Abedrabbo
Sent: February 10, 2020 17:23
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] my vocalizer expressive 1.1 version 3.14 and its attached voices no longer work with NVDA 2019.3

 

Hello folks,

As the subject says: my vocalizer expressive 1.1 version 3.0.14 no longer works on the newly released NVDA 2019.3. I get this message indicating its incompatibility.

Vocalizer Expressive 1.1 Driver; Status: Incompatible; Version: 3.0.14; Author: Tiflotecnia, LDA

How do I correct this problem?  Where do I download the compatible drivers? Do I have to purchase the drivers again or do I qualify for an upgrade?

Any help will be appreciated.

 

Ibrahim
Re: NVDA Not Working with CyberLink PowerDVD Ultra 19

lauracornwell
 

Hey there, to all the new nvda works great from hear also do we know when remote is going to hit the aire waves? I have had  a lot of people asking me .

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, February 9, 2020 9:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Not Working with CyberLink PowerDVD Ultra 19

 

I haven't used Cyberlink myself, but I wonder for those who have it, have you reached out to Cyberlink about the accessibility problems?

 

WIthout having looked at the software this is all just general, but in general:

- NVDA supports standard controls (buttons, edit boxes, labels, etc), so if a program uses standard controls they should generally be accessible.  There might be issues like if they created the buttons in reverse order TAB might take you everywhere in a weird order, but you should be able to get there.

 

- If a developer has created their own custom controls, they may not be accessible, depending on whether they based them off an accessible control or really did create them from scratch.  If they created them from scratch, it's still possible to make them accessible, it just requires extra work in terms of ensuring information is declared to accessibility APIs which might be listening, labels are attached to edit boxes, and so on.

 

- Often, it's not just being able to tab or arrow to information, but you need to be able to quickly jump to important controls.  If you have a telephone answering program for instance, you really want a shortcut that will let you answer the phone immediately - you don't want to have to tab 35 times to get to the "answer" button.  You also want the program to alert you to the fact that the phone is ringing in the first place.  A flashing light with no other indication and nothing for NVDA to detect isn't going to be very accessible.

 

There might be things NVDA can do better to access a program, and it might be possible to write an add-on or modify NVDA to overcome issues with the above points, however if the developer of the original software can address those points and ensure their software is as accessible as possible, then it will help not only NVDA users, (and NVDA users who don't have a specific version of NVDA or a particular add-on) but it will help other users as well - users of other screen readers, keyboard users who might not use a screen reader, etc.

 

As I said, I haven't used this particular program so those are all general comments.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 4:08 PM Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

Thats true.

I have had a similar issue with abbyy fine reader 15.

At first they just said it worked with jaws and that was fine but would test it.

It took them over a month to test and find it was their software being bad.

Now its not been fixed yet but its in the cue so its going to appear at some point maybe in the next update in the 15 x series whenever that is.

 

 

On 9/02/2020 3:22 am, Brian Vogel wrote:

What any screen reader user needs to understand is that issues of inaccessibility can originate with the screen reader itself, the software you're trying to use it to control, or both.

Your request is not unreasonable, but be aware that it may have nothing to do with NVDA (or any other screen reader) and may have everything to do with something the folks at CyberLink have done (or not done) with PowerDVD Ultra 19.

There are times, of course, where both sides of the equation will have tweaks that must be made.
--

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Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


 

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Training and Support Manager

 

 
OE Classic 3.1 gets more accessibility fixes.

Robert Kingett
 

The below is from their accessibility email list. No, I have no clue how to join it. I was added. For those who hate Thunderbird, this may be a good alternative but understand that the free version does not support IMAP or profiles yet.

Before I paste the email, here's the website. Check it out. Send them bugs and questions.

In the latest release of OE Classic 3.1, released today (10th February 2020), we've added the support for standard Message dialogs which are now fully screen-reader accessible. The dialogs use standard buttons and standard way of displaying messages which is easily readable to any screen-reader. The dialog we're describing are the ones such as "are you sure" type of dialogs. For example, when you right click the empty deleted items folder option one such dialog will show up.

To have this support there are some requirements though:

  • you must run at least Windows Vista or newer (Windows 7, Windows 8 or Windows 10 work well, and Windows 10 works best regarding this)

  • Theme support must be enabled on Windows Vista, Windows 7 and Windows 8. (so in other words, Windows must be using at least Windows Basic or Windows Aero theme). On Windows 10 this is not a problem, because the themes from Windows 8 and earlier are removed - Windows 10 has always theme support enabled so message dialogs in OE Classic will be always the standard Windows ones which are accessible. The requirement to have theme support enabled on Windows Vista / 7 / 8 will be removed in one of the updates when we switch to newer compiler than the one we currently use. But this is not much of a problem. Windows 7 usually is already set to one of the above mentioned themes by default, and for Windows 10 this is not a problem at all, since it has this always enabled.

  • Windows XP cannot be supported unfortunately. It doesn't support the required programming interface needed to add this. If you use that version, OE Classic will revert to the older dialogs which are not accessible. We have some ideas how to support even this, but it will require some compromises which we are only ready to take when the popularity of Windows XP is below 1% (currently about 2%).

In addition to all the above, we're also working on adding accessibility support for the list views (message list, contact list, folder list) which is currently the biggest known thing to be missing. We have made some progress regarding that in discovering why it doesn't work but there is still work to be done. We will notify you about this separately. There are also a few other windows which haven't been localized and as such adjusted for accessibility, and that will be done in time too, but these windows are rare in the current version (it is the updates window and send/receive window for example). With all of that we're approaching the goal of reaching 100% accessibility.

If you have suggestions, other than the ones which are already listed, we're always looking forward to those. If you have already made a suggestion, rest assured it is already in our queue to be implemented so there is no need to suggest it again.
my vocalizer expressive 1.1 version 3.14 and its attached voices no longer work with NVDA 2019.3

Ibrahim Abedrabbo
 

Hello folks,

As the subject says: my vocalizer expressive 1.1 version 3.0.14 no longer works on the newly released NVDA 2019.3. I get this message indicating its incompatibility.

Vocalizer Expressive 1.1 Driver; Status: Incompatible; Version: 3.0.14; Author: Tiflotecnia, LDA

How do I correct this problem?  Where do I download the compatible drivers? Do I have to purchase the drivers again or do I qualify for an upgrade?

Any help will be appreciated.

 

Ibrahim
Re: python3 compatability list

Joseph Lee
 

Hi,
The compatibility list will be updated soon once Python 3 versions of some add-ons (mostly marked as "planned" or "work in progress") are released.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 4:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] python3 compatability list

Hi.

Could the link for the python 3 compatability list be either merged or added to the main addon website index please?

Also, where stuff says work in prograss or not working I am not sure how update the list actually is.

If something is compatible, there should be a download link to the latest version and if its actually completed the addon update on the site should be done.

I am not badgering people as I am sure it will be done.

I am amazed how many addons are actually compatible.

Some like jgt are just minted some like teamtalk while I didn't find them immediately I did find the addons on their homepages and updated.

On that note, dug lee it may be a good idea to make sure the dev of teamtalk has the right addon on his site both in portable versions and on his ftp.
Re: NVDA 2019.3 released

Brian Vogel
 

Just thought I'd post this as it is a first for me:  NVDA would not update from the "in NVDA" update process.  It failed and said to see the log.

I downloaded the new installer and that worked perfectly, and without having to uninstall the existing NVDA installation.  I probably should have posted this before going that route, as I believe I've probably now overwritten the log.  However, if the log is appended to, and anyone on the development team would like for me to send them a copy, just let me know.  I won't likely be using NVDA at all additionally today so the log is going to remain however it happens to be at the moment.

As a completely unrelated aside, can anyone tell me why NVDA announces, "Switch to USB Dialog Adapter Combo Box," as the first thing after starting virtually every time?  I've grown used to it, but I cannot for the life of me figure out what it thinks it has focus on such that this is what is announced.  And that quote is verbatim.
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Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 
Re: nvda 2019.3 vocalizer, and remote support

lauracornwell
 

Yes there, is if you are on teamtalk would you please email me off list thanks . ---Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 7:27 AM
To: nvda <nvda@groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] nvda 2019.3 vocalizer, and remote support

Hello,

I just updated to nvda 2019.3 and a bunch of my addons which wouldn't
update just broke/disabled. One of them is my nuance vocalizer drivers
and synth. I'm not seeing anything on addons.nvda-project.org on this.
Another is nvda remote support. Does this addon have a 2019.3
compatible version? I just checked addons.nvda-project.org and stable
looks like it isn't, actually i'm not seeing a download for that at
all.

Suggestions welcome.

Thanks.
Dave.
Re: NVDA 2019.3 released

CARLOS-ESTEBAN <carlosestebanpianista@...>
 

Hello.

Thanks, i go to update my NVDA!

Thanks.


El 10/02/2020 a las 6:44, Quentin Christensen escribió:
Hi everyone,

NV Access is very pleased to present the long awaited next installment of the world's most popular screen reader:  NVDA 2019.3!

NVDA 2019.3 is a very significant release containing many under-the-hood changes including the upgrade of Python 2 to Python 3, and a major re-write of NVDA’s speech subsystem. Although these changes do break compatibility with older NVDA add-ons, the upgrade to Python 3 is necessary for security, and the changes to speech allow for some exciting innovations in the near future.

Other highlights in this release include 64 bit support for Java VMs, Screen Curtain and Focus Highlight functionality, support for more braille displays and a new Braille viewer, and many many other bug fixes.

Please note, after updating any software, it is a good idea to restart the computer. Restart by going to the Shutdown dialog, selecting “restart” and pressing ENTER. Updating software can change files which are in use. This can lead to instability and strange behaviour which is resolved by rebooting. This is the first thing to try if you do notice anything odd after updating.

To read the full release, and download NVDA, please see the announcement at: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3-released/

Kind regards

Quentin.

-- 
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
Re: NVDA 2019.3 released

Gerardo Corripio
 

I don’t plan to update mine, until the Vocalizer bug is squashed. Apart from the upgrade to Python, I don’t see any significant changes so as to go ahead and update, though the curiosity is there of course!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel

El 10 feb 2020, a la(s) 6:21 a.m., zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> escribió:

hi quentin.
i am very glad about this news!
while the best version for me as i always mentioned is 2017.2, but i
became very delighted to hear the news and wanted to appreciate you as
always!
i never forget praying for you, God bless you and His infinite mercy i
pray for you!

On 2/10/20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi everyone,

NV Access is very pleased to present the long awaited next installment of
the world's most popular screen reader: NVDA 2019.3!

NVDA 2019.3 is a very significant release containing many under-the-hood
changes including the upgrade of Python 2 to Python 3, and a major re-write
of NVDA’s speech subsystem. Although these changes do break compatibility
with older NVDA add-ons, the upgrade to Python 3 is necessary for security,
and the changes to speech allow for some exciting innovations in the near
future.

Other highlights in this release include 64 bit support for Java VMs,
Screen Curtain and Focus Highlight functionality, support for more braille
displays and a new Braille viewer, and many many other bug fixes.

Please note, after updating any software, it is a good idea to restart the
computer. Restart by going to the Shutdown dialog, selecting “restart” and
pressing ENTER. Updating software can change files which are in use. This
can lead to instability and strange behaviour which is resolved by
rebooting. This is the first thing to try if you do notice anything odd
after updating.

To read the full release, and download NVDA, please see the announcement
at: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3-released/

Kind regards

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing:
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc2-now-available-for-testing/

Web: www.nvaccess.org
Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>;




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali
Re: NVDA 2019.3 released

Margus Ojaots
 

i am little bit worried. i use eloquence for school, should i update?

2020-02-10 15:43 GMT +02:00, molly the blind tech lover
<brainardmolly@gmail.com>:

It’s out . . . Yes!

Can’t wait to download it 😀



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin
Christensen
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 6:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 released



Hi everyone,



NV Access is very pleased to present the long awaited next installment of
the world's most popular screen reader: NVDA 2019.3!



NVDA 2019.3 is a very significant release containing many under-the-hood
changes including the upgrade of Python 2 to Python 3, and a major re-write
of NVDA’s speech subsystem. Although these changes do break compatibility
with older NVDA add-ons, the upgrade to Python 3 is necessary for security,
and the changes to speech allow for some exciting innovations in the near
future.

Other highlights in this release include 64 bit support for Java VMs, Screen
Curtain and Focus Highlight functionality, support for more braille displays
and a new Braille viewer, and many many other bug fixes.

Please note, after updating any software, it is a good idea to restart the
computer. Restart by going to the Shutdown dialog, selecting “restart” and
pressing ENTER. Updating software can change files which are in use. This
can lead to instability and strange behaviour which is resolved by
rebooting. This is the first thing to try if you do notice anything odd
after updating.




To read the full release, and download NVDA, please see the announcement at:
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3-released/



Kind regards



Quentin.



--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing:
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc2-now-available-for-testing/



Web: <http://www.nvaccess.org/>; www.nvaccess.org

Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>;
Re: NVDA 2019.3 released

molly the blind tech lover
 

It’s out . . . Yes!

Can’t wait to download it 😀

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 6:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 released

 

Hi everyone,

 

NV Access is very pleased to present the long awaited next installment of the world's most popular screen reader:  NVDA 2019.3!

 

NVDA 2019.3 is a very significant release containing many under-the-hood changes including the upgrade of Python 2 to Python 3, and a major re-write of NVDA’s speech subsystem. Although these changes do break compatibility with older NVDA add-ons, the upgrade to Python 3 is necessary for security, and the changes to speech allow for some exciting innovations in the near future.

Other highlights in this release include 64 bit support for Java VMs, Screen Curtain and Focus Highlight functionality, support for more braille displays and a new Braille viewer, and many many other bug fixes.

Please note, after updating any software, it is a good idea to restart the computer. Restart by going to the Shutdown dialog, selecting “restart” and pressing ENTER. Updating software can change files which are in use. This can lead to instability and strange behaviour which is resolved by rebooting. This is the first thing to try if you do notice anything odd after updating.

 

To read the full release, and download NVDA, please see the announcement at: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3-released/

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

-- 

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

 
nvda 2019.3 vocalizer, and remote support

David Mehler
 

Hello,

I just updated to nvda 2019.3 and a bunch of my addons which wouldn't
update just broke/disabled. One of them is my nuance vocalizer drivers
and synth. I'm not seeing anything on addons.nvda-project.org on this.
Another is nvda remote support. Does this addon have a 2019.3
compatible version? I just checked addons.nvda-project.org and stable
looks like it isn't, actually i'm not seeing a download for that at
all.

Suggestions welcome.

Thanks.
Dave.
Re: new nvda 2019.3 addon compatability update list

Robert Kingett
 

There are a lot of add ons on the community website that say they are compatible with 2019.3 but are actually not. One of these is the speak passwords add on. In the coming weeks, could we start removing old add ons from the community website to avoid confusion?
Untranslated strings in final NVDA 2019.3

Michel Such
 

Hi all,


It looks like stable version was built from RC2 since untranslated strings that were fixed by rc3 are back.


--
Michel Such

Re: NVDA 2019.3 released

Pascal Lambert
 

Good morning Quentin,

Please, where can one download an Eloquent synthesizer  version that is compatible with NVDA 2019.3?

I tried to donate this morning and I found the spin button did not work for me.  Why can’t we use a combo box to choose the amount and another one to choose whether it is a monthly or single donation?

Many thanks

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2020 6:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 released

 

Hi everyone,

 

NV Access is very pleased to present the long awaited next installment of the world's most popular screen reader:  NVDA 2019.3!

 

NVDA 2019.3 is a very significant release containing many under-the-hood changes including the upgrade of Python 2 to Python 3, and a major re-write of NVDA’s speech subsystem. Although these changes do break compatibility with older NVDA add-ons, the upgrade to Python 3 is necessary for security, and the changes to speech allow for some exciting innovations in the near future.

Other highlights in this release include 64 bit support for Java VMs, Screen Curtain and Focus Highlight functionality, support for more braille displays and a new Braille viewer, and many many other bug fixes.

Please note, after updating any software, it is a good idea to restart the computer. Restart by going to the Shutdown dialog, selecting “restart” and pressing ENTER. Updating software can change files which are in use. This can lead to instability and strange behaviour which is resolved by rebooting. This is the first thing to try if you do notice anything odd after updating.

 

To read the full release, and download NVDA, please see the announcement at: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3-released/

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

-- 

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

 
Re: NVDA 2019.3 released

zahra
 

hi quentin.
i am very glad about this news!
while the best version for me as i always mentioned is 2017.2, but i
became very delighted to hear the news and wanted to appreciate you as
always!
i never forget praying for you, God bless you and His infinite mercy i
pray for you!

On 2/10/20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi everyone,

NV Access is very pleased to present the long awaited next installment of
the world's most popular screen reader: NVDA 2019.3!

NVDA 2019.3 is a very significant release containing many under-the-hood
changes including the upgrade of Python 2 to Python 3, and a major re-write
of NVDA’s speech subsystem. Although these changes do break compatibility
with older NVDA add-ons, the upgrade to Python 3 is necessary for security,
and the changes to speech allow for some exciting innovations in the near
future.

Other highlights in this release include 64 bit support for Java VMs,
Screen Curtain and Focus Highlight functionality, support for more braille
displays and a new Braille viewer, and many many other bug fixes.

Please note, after updating any software, it is a good idea to restart the
computer. Restart by going to the Shutdown dialog, selecting “restart” and
pressing ENTER. Updating software can change files which are in use. This
can lead to instability and strange behaviour which is resolved by
rebooting. This is the first thing to try if you do notice anything odd
after updating.

To read the full release, and download NVDA, please see the announcement
at: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3-released/

Kind regards

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing:
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc2-now-available-for-testing/

Web: www.nvaccess.org
Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>;



--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali
python3 compatability list

Shaun Everiss
 

Hi.

Could the link for the python 3 compatability list be either merged or added to the main addon website index please?

Also, where stuff says work in prograss or not working I am not sure how update the list actually is.

If something is compatible, there should be a download link to the latest version and if its actually completed the addon update on the site should be done.

I am not badgering people as I am sure it will be done.

I am amazed how many addons are actually compatible.

Some like jgt are just minted some like teamtalk while I didn't find them immediately I did find the addons on their homepages and updated.

On that note, dug lee it may be a good idea to make sure the dev of teamtalk has the right addon on his site both in portable versions and on his ftp.
update on the message I posted

Shaun Everiss
 

The teamtalk is on dlee and I have the latest update now.
new nvda 2019.3 addon compatability update list

Shaun Everiss
 

Hi.

I know some of these are compatible now or in rout.

Firstly, all the addons by nick stockton like ifinterpritors are not compatible.

if you search for nick stockton nvda addons you will find the github repo with all the repos in it.

Some of these are usefull.

Dropbox.

I know there is a version, its not on the addons website though, its link needs updating.

Image describer.

Its status is unknown right now.

Emoteicons and report simbols.

I think versions exist for this they just are not on the website.

Teamtalk.

I am not sure if I have the compatible one or not is that on dlee.org allready and the website if not this needs updating.

The espeak ng synth seems a bit abbrupt with any d or t simbol sounds like its double.

Its a minor data issue and could probably get used to.

WIndows defender is not throwing a wobly though which is good.
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