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locked Re: is firefox quantum now works well with nvda without any crash or major issue?

 

when i use dynamic heavy web pages with javascript,
when my system has overheating issue,
i face unresponsiveness of firefox,
but i did not face firefox and mozilla crash report,
at least since firefox 45.
i really wish to know, if firefox quantum crashing with nvda is
resolved, since which version of firefox exactly it works without any
crashes.

On 7/5/20, JM Casey <jmcasey@teksavvy.com> wrote:
Firefox is up to version 78 now. Crashes more often with JAWS 018 on my
new(er) desktop than with nVDA (newest stable release) on my old(er) lenovo
laptop. Never founda browser that is completely stable 100% of the time.
Firefox is pretty good at recovering from most crashes, though. Not sure how
much the screen-reader influences the browser crashing but, I am not sure
Freedom Scientific cares that much about Firefox support. Anyway, you'll
need to stop using XP to use Quantum I think...



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: July 5, 2020 11:59 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] is firefox quantum now works well with nvda without any
crash or major issue?

hello every one.
as you know,
i use windows xp and firefox 52 with nvda versions 2017.2 and 2017.3.
my only browser is firefox and i really cant tolerate other browsers.
i had issue of firefox crashes in firefox old versions with nvda.
but did not observe firefox crashes at least in firefox 45!
once, i could access windows seven and i tested firefox 61 the crashes
returned frequently.
so, i observed firefox crashes in 30 minute of using firefox!
even in simple web pages like nvda user guide, and my gmail interface which
is in basic html view, i had frequent crashes and firefox 61 was completely
unusable for me!
when testing with windows seven, i only used and tested firefox 61 with nvda
2017.2.
and i did not have nvda 2017.3 on that time.
i know one person who has a laptop from 2009 and for this reason, He
migrated to chrome!
i really wish some experts,
and who use only firefox and compare versions, especially users of old
laptops, help me that 1. is frequent crashing of firefox quantum with nvda
is resolved or not?
2.
if the issue is resolved,
and mozilla released a stable version of firefox without crashes like
firefox 56 and before, please give me exact version number.
for example: tell me that firefox since version xxx became completely stable
as it was before firefox quantum.
i searched in the internet and found only this link.
https://www.accessibilityoz.com/2018/11/accessibility-issues-with-firefox-quantum-and-screen-readers/
can someone please help?
can i use one day firefox quantum with nvda 2017.3 without any issues?
or, i should use firefox 52 forever?
thanks so much every one and God bless you all!

--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali






--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Windows 10 Upgrade and Windows 10 App Essentials

 

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 12:49 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Actually, Windows 10 App Essentials now require November 2019 Update (Version 1909) or later, not 2004 yet.
-
Which brings us back to why it's so important to:

1. Identify the version and build of Windows 10 under which you're running everything you're running, including NVDA.

2. Keep your version of Windows 10 up to date.  At this point in time, that would mean Version 1909 at the oldest.

When you hear that the next Feature Update is about to be released, regardless of what that happens to be numbered, if your machine is not already on the version immediately previous to that one, then take the steps necessary to manually update, as by that point all machines should have been automatically updated to it, and if they have not been, that means manual intervention is needed.

This can be done either by going to the Microsoft Windows 10 Download Page and using the Update Assistant (Update this PC button) or, preferably in my opinion, Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file.

Right now anyone who's not already on 1909, and whose machine is giving the "not quite ready for Version 2004" message is in a bit of a bind, as the Media Creation Tool is now creating media for Version 2004, and if you don't already have the ISO file for 1909 you're not getting it (or getting it easily, anyway) from Microsoft.  If anyone happens to know if there is a page, at Microsoft (not elsewhere), that hosts the ISO files for those versions of Windows 10 still under support, but not the latest, please share, as I do not know of it.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


locked Re: is firefox quantum now works well with nvda without any crash or major issue?

JM Casey
 

Firefox is up to version 78 now. Crashes more often with JAWS 018 on my new(er) desktop than with nVDA (newest stable release) on my old(er) lenovo laptop. Never founda browser that is completely stable 100% of the time. Firefox is pretty good at recovering from most crashes, though. Not sure how much the screen-reader influences the browser crashing but, I am not sure Freedom Scientific cares that much about Firefox support. Anyway, you'll need to stop using XP to use Quantum I think...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: July 5, 2020 11:59 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] is firefox quantum now works well with nvda without any crash or major issue?

hello every one.
as you know,
i use windows xp and firefox 52 with nvda versions 2017.2 and 2017.3.
my only browser is firefox and i really cant tolerate other browsers.
i had issue of firefox crashes in firefox old versions with nvda.
but did not observe firefox crashes at least in firefox 45!
once, i could access windows seven and i tested firefox 61 the crashes returned frequently.
so, i observed firefox crashes in 30 minute of using firefox!
even in simple web pages like nvda user guide, and my gmail interface which is in basic html view, i had frequent crashes and firefox 61 was completely unusable for me!
when testing with windows seven, i only used and tested firefox 61 with nvda 2017.2.
and i did not have nvda 2017.3 on that time.
i know one person who has a laptop from 2009 and for this reason, He migrated to chrome!
i really wish some experts,
and who use only firefox and compare versions, especially users of old laptops, help me that 1. is frequent crashing of firefox quantum with nvda is resolved or not?
2.
if the issue is resolved,
and mozilla released a stable version of firefox without crashes like firefox 56 and before, please give me exact version number.
for example: tell me that firefox since version xxx became completely stable as it was before firefox quantum.
i searched in the internet and found only this link.
https://www.accessibilityoz.com/2018/11/accessibility-issues-with-firefox-quantum-and-screen-readers/
can someone please help?
can i use one day firefox quantum with nvda 2017.3 without any issues?
or, i should use firefox 52 forever?
thanks so much every one and God bless you all!

--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


locked Re: is firefox quantum now works well with nvda without any crash or major issue?

Gene
 

I should say I haven't had problems with NVDA.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2020 11:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is firefox quantum now works well with nvda without any crash or major issue?

First, you can't use Firefox 51 forever. Old browsers gradually work with
fewer and fewer sites. Try the latest version of Firefox and see if it
crashes or not on your Windows 7 system. You can try the portable version
since that alters nothing on your system. You can continue to use your
beloved years out of date dangerous version if you wish and evaluate the
current portable version. Many people are using Firefox, the latest one,
and I've seen no pattern of complaints. While I don't use firefox much, I
haven't had problems with more recent versions.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: zahra
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2020 10:58 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] is firefox quantum now works well with nvda without any
crash or major issue?

hello every one.
as you know,
i use windows xp and firefox 52 with nvda versions 2017.2 and 2017.3.
my only browser is firefox and i really cant tolerate other browsers.
i had issue of firefox crashes in firefox old versions with nvda.
but did not observe firefox crashes at least in firefox 45!
once, i could access windows seven and i tested firefox 61
the crashes returned frequently.
so, i observed firefox crashes in 30 minute of using firefox!
even in simple web pages like nvda user guide,
and my gmail interface which is in basic html view,
i had frequent crashes and firefox 61 was completely unusable for me!
when testing with windows seven, i only used and tested firefox 61
with nvda 2017.2.
and i did not have nvda 2017.3 on that time.
i know one person who has a laptop from 2009 and for this reason, He
migrated to chrome!
i really wish some experts,
and who use only firefox and compare versions,
especially users of old laptops,
help me that
1. is frequent crashing of firefox quantum with nvda is resolved or not?
2.
if the issue is resolved,
and mozilla released a stable version of firefox without crashes like
firefox 56 and before,
please give me exact version number.
for example: tell me that firefox since version xxx became completely
stable as it was before firefox quantum.
i searched in the internet and found only this link.
https://www.accessibilityoz.com/2018/11/accessibility-issues-with-firefox-quantum-and-screen-readers/
can someone please help?
can i use one day firefox quantum with nvda 2017.3 without any issues?
or, i should use firefox 52 forever?
thanks so much every one and God bless you all!

--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Windows 10 Upgrade and Windows 10 App Essentials

 

Hi,
Actually, Windows 10 App Essentials now require November 2019 Update (Version 1909) or later, not 2004 yet. The add-on won't require Version 2004 until next year.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 7:05 AM
To: NVDA Official Group <nvda@groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 Upgrade and Windows 10 App Essentials

Hi Group,

I keep getting this 'this version of Windows 10 app essentials is incompatible with this version of Windows message every time I restart my system and try installing the latest version of Windows 10 app essentials. I know Joseph has indicated that this would happen if you weren't running Windows 2004 verwsion. I tried to manually install the Windows 2004 version from the Microsoft support page and half way through the installation, I got the following message.
This PC can't be upgraded to Windows 10.
Your PC settings aren't supported yet on this version of Windows 10.
Microsoft is working to support your settings soon. No action is needed.
Windows Update will offer this version of Windows 10 automatically when these settings are supported.

a cursory search on Google for this information shows that only about half the systems are now running version 2004. I am wondering why Joseph used this upgraded version of Windows 10 app essentials under these circumstances. I wonder what they mean about the settings on your PC are not supported.

Any enlightenment would be greatly appreciated.


--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Microsoft OneNote

 

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 10:43 AM, Daniel Damacena wrote:
I could not understand wich software is better for us: the one that comes with office package or the one wich comes on windows 10?
And "better" is very likely to be a matter of opinion.  The version from the Microsoft Store is free, so if you've got the Office Version you can download the Store Version then play with both and see which is better for you.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


locked Re: is firefox quantum now works well with nvda without any crash or major issue?

Gene
 

First, you can't use Firefox 51 forever. Old browsers gradually work with fewer and fewer sites. Try the latest version of Firefox and see if it crashes or not on your Windows 7 system. You can try the portable version since that alters nothing on your system. You can continue to use your beloved years out of date dangerous version if you wish and evaluate the current portable version. Many people are using Firefox, the latest one, and I've seen no pattern of complaints. While I don't use firefox much, I haven't had problems with more recent versions.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: zahra
Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2020 10:58 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] is firefox quantum now works well with nvda without any crash or major issue?

hello every one.
as you know,
i use windows xp and firefox 52 with nvda versions 2017.2 and 2017.3.
my only browser is firefox and i really cant tolerate other browsers.
i had issue of firefox crashes in firefox old versions with nvda.
but did not observe firefox crashes at least in firefox 45!
once, i could access windows seven and i tested firefox 61
the crashes returned frequently.
so, i observed firefox crashes in 30 minute of using firefox!
even in simple web pages like nvda user guide,
and my gmail interface which is in basic html view,
i had frequent crashes and firefox 61 was completely unusable for me!
when testing with windows seven, i only used and tested firefox 61
with nvda 2017.2.
and i did not have nvda 2017.3 on that time.
i know one person who has a laptop from 2009 and for this reason, He
migrated to chrome!
i really wish some experts,
and who use only firefox and compare versions,
especially users of old laptops,
help me that
1. is frequent crashing of firefox quantum with nvda is resolved or not?
2.
if the issue is resolved,
and mozilla released a stable version of firefox without crashes like
firefox 56 and before,
please give me exact version number.
for example: tell me that firefox since version xxx became completely
stable as it was before firefox quantum.
i searched in the internet and found only this link.
https://www.accessibilityoz.com/2018/11/accessibility-issues-with-firefox-quantum-and-screen-readers/
can someone please help?
can i use one day firefox quantum with nvda 2017.3 without any issues?
or, i should use firefox 52 forever?
thanks so much every one and God bless you all!

--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


locked Re: is firefox quantum now works well with nvda without any crash or major issue?

Chris
 

But that’s no good if you are using XP which doesn’t support quantum  at all in any way shape or form

 

 

From: zahra
Sent: 05 July 2020 17:30
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is firefox quantum now works well with nvda without any crash or major issue?

 

in the link which i posted in my description,

the author said that:

"Both NV Access and Freedom Scientific declare that NVDA (starting

from version 2018.2) and JAWS (starting from version 2018)

respectively are compatible with Firefox Quantum. Compatibility may be

understood broadly. Yes, Firefox is again usable with screen readers,

but it is still not as smooth as it was before Firefox 57.

in the last week, i found informations in mozilla website that jaws

should be version 2018 for compatability with firefox quantum.

but did not declare specific version for nvda, and i believe that any

version of nvda, (at least since 2016.4), should support firefox

quantum!

 

On 7/5/20, zahra ayat <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:

> hello every one.

> as you know,

> i use windows xp and firefox 52 with nvda versions 2017.2 and 2017.3.

> my only browser is firefox and i really cant tolerate other browsers.

> i had issue of firefox crashes in firefox old versions with nvda.

> but did not observe firefox crashes at least in firefox 45!

> once, i could access windows seven and i tested firefox 61

> the crashes returned frequently.

> so, i observed firefox crashes in 30 minute of using firefox!

> even in simple web pages like nvda user guide,

> and my gmail interface which is in basic html view,

> i had frequent crashes and firefox 61 was completely unusable for me!

> when testing with windows seven, i only used and tested firefox 61

> with nvda 2017.2.

>  and i did not have nvda 2017.3 on that time.

> i know one person who has a laptop from 2009 and for this reason, He

> migrated to chrome!

> i really wish some experts,

> and who use only firefox and compare versions,

> especially users of old laptops,

> help me that

> 1. is frequent crashing of firefox quantum with nvda is resolved or not?

> 2.

> if the issue is resolved,

> and mozilla released a stable version of firefox without crashes like

> firefox 56 and before,

> please give me exact version number.

> for example: tell me that firefox since version xxx became completely

> stable as it was before firefox quantum.

> i searched in the internet and found only this link.

> https://www.accessibilityoz.com/2018/11/accessibility-issues-with-firefox-quantum-and-screen-readers/

> can someone please help?

> can i use one day firefox quantum with nvda 2017.3 without any issues?

> or, i should use firefox 52 forever?

> thanks so much every one and God bless you all!

> --

> By God,

> were I given all the seven heavens

> with all they contain

> in order that

> I may disobey God

> by depriving an ant

> from the husk of a grain of barley,

> I would not do it.

> imam ali

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 


locked Re: is firefox quantum now works well with nvda without any crash or major issue?

 

in the link which i posted in my description,
the author said that:
"Both NV Access and Freedom Scientific declare that NVDA (starting
from version 2018.2) and JAWS (starting from version 2018)
respectively are compatible with Firefox Quantum. Compatibility may be
understood broadly. Yes, Firefox is again usable with screen readers,
but it is still not as smooth as it was before Firefox 57.
in the last week, i found informations in mozilla website that jaws
should be version 2018 for compatability with firefox quantum.
but did not declare specific version for nvda, and i believe that any
version of nvda, (at least since 2016.4), should support firefox
quantum!

On 7/5/20, zahra ayat <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
hello every one.
as you know,
i use windows xp and firefox 52 with nvda versions 2017.2 and 2017.3.
my only browser is firefox and i really cant tolerate other browsers.
i had issue of firefox crashes in firefox old versions with nvda.
but did not observe firefox crashes at least in firefox 45!
once, i could access windows seven and i tested firefox 61
the crashes returned frequently.
so, i observed firefox crashes in 30 minute of using firefox!
even in simple web pages like nvda user guide,
and my gmail interface which is in basic html view,
i had frequent crashes and firefox 61 was completely unusable for me!
when testing with windows seven, i only used and tested firefox 61
with nvda 2017.2.
and i did not have nvda 2017.3 on that time.
i know one person who has a laptop from 2009 and for this reason, He
migrated to chrome!
i really wish some experts,
and who use only firefox and compare versions,
especially users of old laptops,
help me that
1. is frequent crashing of firefox quantum with nvda is resolved or not?
2.
if the issue is resolved,
and mozilla released a stable version of firefox without crashes like
firefox 56 and before,
please give me exact version number.
for example: tell me that firefox since version xxx became completely
stable as it was before firefox quantum.
i searched in the internet and found only this link.
https://www.accessibilityoz.com/2018/11/accessibility-issues-with-firefox-quantum-and-screen-readers/
can someone please help?
can i use one day firefox quantum with nvda 2017.3 without any issues?
or, i should use firefox 52 forever?
thanks so much every one and God bless you all!

--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali
--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Microsoft OneNote

Sarah k Alawami
 

I like the one you can get from the store. Look for one note in the microsoft store. You do need a microsoft account but it is beautiful, and cross platform too. I used the mac and iOs and I think android counter part. I don't need it anymore so I took it off.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 5 Jul 2020, at 7:43, Daniel Damacena wrote:

I could not understand wich software is better for us: the one that comes with office package or the one wich comes on windows 10?
Be pacient with me, please, haha, I am trying to learn english.
Thank you so much!

Em sáb., 4 de jul. de 2020 às 19:19, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> escreveu:

Look in the microsoft store. You will find the newest version.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 4 Jul 2020, at 11:19, Gary Metzler wrote:

Hi,

 

I have office 2016 is there a newer version of one note?  If so, where do I get it?  Thanks for any help

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2020 2:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft OneNote

 

Thanks!@ I might need it.

I know it’s been a while as you said, but have you any thoughts about what exactly needs improving? At this point as nothing is up and organised yet I’m not even really sure what to do with it to learn how to make the most effective use of it.Looks like I need to set up a microsoft account to even get it to do anything…Figures.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: July 3, 2020 7:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft OneNote

 

I actually talked to a microsoft rep directly and showed them everything that was wrong. They gave me virble feedback about f6 and stuff, then said they would forward all of this onto the developers of one note. This was last year. I have not had on enote on my system since as I no longer need it, but good luck.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 3 Jul 2020, at 11:42, JM Casey wrote:

Hey Sarah.

 

May I ask the nature of the feedback that was submitted? My friend 9sighted) and I were just talking about that as he uses the feedback thing quite a lot.

Lol at “pain”…yeah, they can be that. 8grins*

I can’t quite picture yet how he wants to organise all this.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: July 3, 2020 2:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft OneNote

 

I have used one note and it's ok, they suggest hitting f6 to get between pains. I submitted feedback a while ago, and that's as far as it went.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 3 Jul 2020, at 11:11, JM Casey wrote:

Hey folks. Just putting some feelers out to see if anybody uses this (OneNote) and how well it works with NVDA. I’m in a position where it’s been used to conduct/coordinate a D&D campaign (yes, really) and I don’t want to have to make someone change his whole way of doing things – but the last time I poked around with oneNote I couldn’t really make much useful out of it. At that time though I had no specific goal in mind. Any thoughts? Tips /pointers? Is the app that comes with Windows 10 sufficient or is there, like Skype, another/better one I should download for best results?

 

Thanks!

 

 



--
Daniel Damacena


Re: Windows 10 Upgrade and Windows 10 App Essentials

 

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 10:04 AM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
I am wondering why Joseph used this upgraded version of Windows 10 app essentials under these circumstances. 
I'd say that like any developer in the era of Windows as a Service he's doing what makes the most sense - keeping up with/ahead of what's coming down the pike right now.

If the choice is between not updating the software, and having those who so happen to have gotten the Version 2004 Feature Update of Windows 10 with problems, or updating the software and having those of us not on that Version yet get a message out of Add-On updater that the latest version of an Add-On won't work for us, the latter is the only reasonable choice.  We'll all eventually be on Version 2004, and being proactive about having all work with that release, which is the latest one, is the only way to go.

This is the nature of transition periods.  This isn't the first time this situation has been encountered, nor will it be the last.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


locked is firefox quantum now works well with nvda without any crash or major issue?

 

hello every one.
as you know,
i use windows xp and firefox 52 with nvda versions 2017.2 and 2017.3.
my only browser is firefox and i really cant tolerate other browsers.
i had issue of firefox crashes in firefox old versions with nvda.
but did not observe firefox crashes at least in firefox 45!
once, i could access windows seven and i tested firefox 61
the crashes returned frequently.
so, i observed firefox crashes in 30 minute of using firefox!
even in simple web pages like nvda user guide,
and my gmail interface which is in basic html view,
i had frequent crashes and firefox 61 was completely unusable for me!
when testing with windows seven, i only used and tested firefox 61
with nvda 2017.2.
and i did not have nvda 2017.3 on that time.
i know one person who has a laptop from 2009 and for this reason, He
migrated to chrome!
i really wish some experts,
and who use only firefox and compare versions,
especially users of old laptops,
help me that
1. is frequent crashing of firefox quantum with nvda is resolved or not?
2.
if the issue is resolved,
and mozilla released a stable version of firefox without crashes like
firefox 56 and before,
please give me exact version number.
for example: tell me that firefox since version xxx became completely
stable as it was before firefox quantum.
i searched in the internet and found only this link.
https://www.accessibilityoz.com/2018/11/accessibility-issues-with-firefox-quantum-and-screen-readers/
can someone please help?
can i use one day firefox quantum with nvda 2017.3 without any issues?
or, i should use firefox 52 forever?
thanks so much every one and God bless you all!

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By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Microsoft OneNote

Daniel Damacena
 

I could not understand wich software is better for us: the one that comes with office package or the one wich comes on windows 10?
Be pacient with me, please, haha, I am trying to learn english.
Thank you so much!

Em sáb., 4 de jul. de 2020 às 19:19, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> escreveu:

Look in the microsoft store. You will find the newest version.

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On 4 Jul 2020, at 11:19, Gary Metzler wrote:

Hi,

 

I have office 2016 is there a newer version of one note?  If so, where do I get it?  Thanks for any help

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2020 2:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft OneNote

 

Thanks!@ I might need it.

I know it’s been a while as you said, but have you any thoughts about what exactly needs improving? At this point as nothing is up and organised yet I’m not even really sure what to do with it to learn how to make the most effective use of it.Looks like I need to set up a microsoft account to even get it to do anything…Figures.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: July 3, 2020 7:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft OneNote

 

I actually talked to a microsoft rep directly and showed them everything that was wrong. They gave me virble feedback about f6 and stuff, then said they would forward all of this onto the developers of one note. This was last year. I have not had on enote on my system since as I no longer need it, but good luck.

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Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

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On 3 Jul 2020, at 11:42, JM Casey wrote:

Hey Sarah.

 

May I ask the nature of the feedback that was submitted? My friend 9sighted) and I were just talking about that as he uses the feedback thing quite a lot.

Lol at “pain”…yeah, they can be that. 8grins*

I can’t quite picture yet how he wants to organise all this.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: July 3, 2020 2:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft OneNote

 

I have used one note and it's ok, they suggest hitting f6 to get between pains. I submitted feedback a while ago, and that's as far as it went.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 3 Jul 2020, at 11:11, JM Casey wrote:

Hey folks. Just putting some feelers out to see if anybody uses this (OneNote) and how well it works with NVDA. I’m in a position where it’s been used to conduct/coordinate a D&D campaign (yes, really) and I don’t want to have to make someone change his whole way of doing things – but the last time I poked around with oneNote I couldn’t really make much useful out of it. At that time though I had no specific goal in mind. Any thoughts? Tips /pointers? Is the app that comes with Windows 10 sufficient or is there, like Skype, another/better one I should download for best results?

 

Thanks!

 

 



--
Daniel Damacena


Re: Windows 10 Upgrade and Windows 10 App Essentials

 

hello.
doue to several bugs and issues in windows ten 2004,
microsoft did not upgrade all computers to this versions until now.
when this operating system becomes stable, people can easily use it
and update their computers.

On 7/5/20, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote:
Hi Group,

I keep getting this 'this version of Windows 10 app essentials is
incompatible with this version of Windows message every time I restart
my system and try installing the latest version of Windows 10 app
essentials. I know Joseph has indicated that this would happen if you
weren't running Windows 2004 verwsion.  I tried to manually install the
Windows 2004 version from the Microsoft support page and half way
through the installation, I got the following message.
This PC can't be upgraded to Windows 10.
Your PC settings aren't supported yet on this version of Windows 10.
Microsoft is working to support your settings soon. No action is needed.
Windows Update will offer this version of Windows 10 automatically when
these settings are supported.

a cursory search on Google for this information shows that only about
half the systems are now running version 2004. I am wondering why Joseph
used this upgraded version of Windows 10 app essentials under these
circumstances.  I wonder what they  mean about the settings on your PC
are not supported.

Any enlightenment would be greatly appreciated.


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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Windows 10 Upgrade and Windows 10 App Essentials

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

I keep getting this 'this version of Windows 10 app essentials is incompatible with this version of Windows message every time I restart my system and try installing the latest version of Windows 10 app essentials. I know Joseph has indicated that this would happen if you weren't running Windows 2004 verwsion.  I tried to manually install the Windows 2004 version from the Microsoft support page and half way through the installation, I got the following message.
This PC can't be upgraded to Windows 10.
Your PC settings aren't supported yet on this version of Windows 10. Microsoft is working to support your settings soon. No action is needed. Windows Update will offer this version of Windows 10 automatically when these settings are supported.

a cursory search on Google for this information shows that only about half the systems are now running version 2004. I am wondering why Joseph used this upgraded version of Windows 10 app essentials under these circumstances.  I wonder what they  mean about the settings on your PC are not supported.

Any enlightenment would be greatly appreciated.


--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07.1 #addonrelease

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I just tried the solitaire game and it was fun to play.

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Sunday, July 5, 2020 12:25 AM
Subject: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07.1 #AddonRelease

Hi all,

 

Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07.1 will show up in about half an hour from now. This version is a bug fix release for people using May 2020 Update (Version 2004) where Open With dialog wasn’t announced when opened.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07.1 #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

Windows 10 App Essentials 20.07.1 will show up in about half an hour from now. This version is a bug fix release for people using May 2020 Update (Version 2004) where Open With dialog wasn’t announced when opened.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Microsoft OneNote

Sarah k Alawami
 

Look in the microsoft store. You will find the newest version.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 4 Jul 2020, at 11:19, Gary Metzler wrote:

Hi,

 

I have office 2016 is there a newer version of one note?  If so, where do I get it?  Thanks for any help

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, July 4, 2020 2:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft OneNote

 

Thanks!@ I might need it.

I know it’s been a while as you said, but have you any thoughts about what exactly needs improving? At this point as nothing is up and organised yet I’m not even really sure what to do with it to learn how to make the most effective use of it.Looks like I need to set up a microsoft account to even get it to do anything…Figures.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: July 3, 2020 7:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft OneNote

 

I actually talked to a microsoft rep directly and showed them everything that was wrong. They gave me virble feedback about f6 and stuff, then said they would forward all of this onto the developers of one note. This was last year. I have not had on enote on my system since as I no longer need it, but good luck.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 3 Jul 2020, at 11:42, JM Casey wrote:

Hey Sarah.

 

May I ask the nature of the feedback that was submitted? My friend 9sighted) and I were just talking about that as he uses the feedback thing quite a lot.

Lol at “pain”…yeah, they can be that. 8grins*

I can’t quite picture yet how he wants to organise all this.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: July 3, 2020 2:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft OneNote

 

I have used one note and it's ok, they suggest hitting f6 to get between pains. I submitted feedback a while ago, and that's as far as it went.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 3 Jul 2020, at 11:11, JM Casey wrote:

Hey folks. Just putting some feelers out to see if anybody uses this (OneNote) and how well it works with NVDA. I’m in a position where it’s been used to conduct/coordinate a D&D campaign (yes, really) and I don’t want to have to make someone change his whole way of doing things – but the last time I poked around with oneNote I couldn’t really make much useful out of it. At that time though I had no specific goal in mind. Any thoughts? Tips /pointers? Is the app that comes with Windows 10 sufficient or is there, like Skype, another/better one I should download for best results?

 

Thanks!

 

 


Re: Microsoft OneNote

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yep you sure do. That's the beauty of it. That's how it will sync between devices. It's beautiful!

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 4 Jul 2020, at 11:16, JM Casey wrote:

Thanks!@ I might need it.

I know it’s been a while as you said, but have you any thoughts about what exactly needs improving? At this point as nothing is up and organised yet I’m not even really sure what to do with it to learn how to make the most effective use of it.Looks like I need to set up a microsoft account to even get it to do anything…Figures.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: July 3, 2020 7:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft OneNote

 

I actually talked to a microsoft rep directly and showed them everything that was wrong. They gave me virble feedback about f6 and stuff, then said they would forward all of this onto the developers of one note. This was last year. I have not had on enote on my system since as I no longer need it, but good luck.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 3 Jul 2020, at 11:42, JM Casey wrote:

Hey Sarah.

 

May I ask the nature of the feedback that was submitted? My friend 9sighted) and I were just talking about that as he uses the feedback thing quite a lot.

Lol at “pain”…yeah, they can be that. 8grins*

I can’t quite picture yet how he wants to organise all this.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: July 3, 2020 2:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft OneNote

 

I have used one note and it's ok, they suggest hitting f6 to get between pains. I submitted feedback a while ago, and that's as far as it went.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 3 Jul 2020, at 11:11, JM Casey wrote:

Hey folks. Just putting some feelers out to see if anybody uses this (OneNote) and how well it works with NVDA. I’m in a position where it’s been used to conduct/coordinate a D&D campaign (yes, really) and I don’t want to have to make someone change his whole way of doing things – but the last time I poked around with oneNote I couldn’t really make much useful out of it. At that time though I had no specific goal in mind. Any thoughts? Tips /pointers? Is the app that comes with Windows 10 sufficient or is there, like Skype, another/better one I should download for best results?

 

Thanks!

 

 


Re: Microsoft OneNote

 

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 04:19 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
And since Brian answered this, I will add also that Dropbox and iCloud are both additional solutions
-
How dare you have the temerity to add additional options!! Off with your head!!!  (I do hope that emoticons are unnecessary here).
 
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Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

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