Date   

Re: happy holidays

Kendra Schaber <kschaber@...>
 

Hi all!

Marry Christmas to you too!!!

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 2:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] happy holidays

 

I would like to wish everybody a Merry Christmas!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: December 24, 2019 9:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] happy holidays

 

Hi, Molly,

 

 

Happy Holidays to you and everyone on list. May 2020 be a better year

for all of us.

 

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

On 12/24/2019 8:51 AM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

> Hey everyone.

> I'd like to wish you all  happy holidays and a happy  new year.

>  

> Regards

>  

> Molly

>

 

 

 


Re: happy holidays

Arlene
 

I would like to wish everybody a Merry Christmas!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: December 24, 2019 9:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] happy holidays

 

Hi, Molly,

 

 

Happy Holidays to you and everyone on list. May 2020 be a better year

for all of us.

 

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

On 12/24/2019 8:51 AM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

> Hey everyone.

> I'd like to wish you all  happy holidays and a happy  new year.

>  

> Regards

>  

> Molly

>

 

 

 


Re: Eloquence in XP and Windows 10

mattias
 

You still can download eloquence for Android if you have buyed it

 

Skickades från E-post för Windows 10

 

Från: Hareth
Skickat: den 24 december 2019 02:55
Till: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Ämne: Re: [nvda] Eloquence in XP and Windows 10

 

They simply dropped the support all together.

it wont work with the 64bit apps  only future android OS.

plus they pooled it from the play store. even if you've purchased it

it and you have a direct link to its page, it would show this item is

no longer available.

In short if the user doesn't have a backed up apk file, or  or have a

friend who does, he or she can kiss their money goodbye.

the only solution for them would be 3rd party  websites, and those are

mostly offering a cracked eloquence file.

See the irony?

 

On 12/24/19, Lenron <lenron93@...> wrote:

> Yeah I refuse to buy anything from them again. What a total rip

> On 12/23/19, g melconian <gmelconian619@...> wrote:

>> Haryth, I do agree with you on this one.

>> 

>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hareth

>> Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 3:10 PM

>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence in XP and Windows 10

>> 

>> After the eloquence for android ripoff

>> I won't purchase any Code Factory product in the future.

>> they have the poorest license check and fix if error bit it.

>> among all the paid software  I've known and used.

>> plus From the way of their updates routine, It look like they higher temp

>> developers to patch and leave.

>> 

>> On 12/23/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

>>> For anyone still using XP who is interested, Code Factory states that

>>> MSAPI5 Eloquence works in Windows Vista, 7, 8, and 10.  I tried it on

>>> my XP Service Pack 3 machine today and it runs properly.  Many years

>>> ago, I tried it on another XP machine I no longer have running Service

>>> Pack 2.  It ran in that as well so it will probably run in XP in

>>> general.

>>> 

>>> Also, since an MSAPI5 synthesizer should run in any program that

>>> supports

>>> MSAPI5 speech, it should run in the beta versions of NVDA as well as

>>> in the earlier versions. So it should make no difference if you are

>>> going to use the new versions as they come out or continue to use an old

>>> one.

>>> 

>>> Gene

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> --

> Lenron Brown

> Cell: 985-271-2832

> Skype: ron.brown762

>

 

 

 


Re: happy holidays

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Molly,


Happy Holidays to you and everyone on list. May 2020 be a better year for all of us.


Rosemarie

On 12/24/2019 8:51 AM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
Hey everyone.

I'd like to wish you all happy holidays and a happy new year.


Regards


Molly




Re: happy holidays

Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo
 

merry xmas to all NVDA users Xmas eve happy holidays 2NVDA staff from
Chikodinaka Family Obianuju Chiderra Happiness and I Chikodinaka happy
Xmas.

On 12/24/19, molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> wrote:
Hey everyone.

I'd like to wish you all happy holidays and a happy new year.



Regards



Molly





happy holidays

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hey everyone.

I’d like to wish you all  happy holidays and a happy  new year.

 

Regards

 

Molly


Re: turning off UIA for the Microsoft Edge Development Version

 

I haven't figured out how to do this for just edge, but I did report the latest beta bug this morning. When a page loads in Edge, nothing is read aloud when trying to navigate through the browser except when pressing tab and shift tab. On Chrome and FF, no problems.


Re: Windows OneCore Voices Speed

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

cool

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Montag, 23. Dezember 2019 22:16
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 1 Core Voices Speed

 

There is already a compatible version.  I tried the demo about a week ago. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 2:57 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 1 Core Voices Speed

 

The SAPI5 version works for sure, but not the one with the NVDA addon. Codefactory will give an updated version of the addon as soon as NVDA 2019.3 is released.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Montag, 23. Dezember 2019 21:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 1 Core Voices Speed

 

What do you mean by the newer version doesn't work like the older versions?  What are you using, an NVDA add-on or something else?  You can use Eloquence in the new version of NVDA.  The Code Factory Add-on has been made compatible.  You should be able to use the SAPI 5 version with NVDA.  I haven't tried it but there is no reason it shouldn't work.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 1:53 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 1 Core Voices Speed

 

Hi all! 

I use Elequance on both JAWS and NVDA. I’m sorry that the newest version doesn’t work like the older versions! So far, I’ve done all right with Elequance but if that changes, I’ll be sure to explore other voices on NVDA and pick one. 

 

As the result of attending school, I have discovered that Writing is one of my gifts. On the other hand, I have eighth grade spelling. Because of my eighth grade spelling, I’m currently working on improving my spelling where it is possible.

Thank you for taking the time to read this email!

 Blessed Be!

Kendra Schaber

Vice-President of the Oregon Association of Blind Students(ORABS)

Oregon Association of Blind Students(ORABS)

National Federation of the Blind of Oregon (NFB-O)

(503) 599-9991

 

One Minute Message:

The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not what holds you back.

NFB Pledge:

I pledge to participate actively in the effort of the National Federation of the Blind to achieve equality, opportunity, and security for the blind; to support the policies and programs of the Federation; and to abide by its constitution.

 

Go Detroit, Red Wings! Go Pittsburgh, Penguins! Go Portland, Winterhawks! Go Baltimore, Oriels! Go Baltimore, Ravens! Go Oregon State Beavers, baseball and football teams!

“When the student is ready, the teacher will appear”, Author Unknown.


Re: Eloquence in XP and Windows 10

Hareth
 

Shaun,

With android its like
when ever you out of internet connection, and rebooted your phone,
change battery, when that was done a lot years back.
you'd end up with a total silent phone,
it happen with me during a time with very important call to make,
when I was in a busy street, Had to ask a total stranger to dial the
number for me.
the only times I've used it after,
was for testing the voice app after its rarely updates. and of
course, the same crap we got from them despite their responds, years
back, with a promises for a final fix.

I won't believe a word coming out of of them.

On 12/24/19, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:
Their licences are ok as long as you deactivate before any major bios or
os update and you can reset them easily by contacting them or atguys
where I got my stuff from.

The issue I have is if the server goes down and they ask to well check
to see if they are active they instantly becaome non active.

You don't lose your seat but still.



On 24/12/2019 12:09 pm, Hareth wrote:
After the eloquence for android ripoff
I won't purchase any Code Factory product in the future.
they have the poorest license check and fix if error bit it.
among all the paid software I've known and used.
plus From the way of their updates routine,
It look like they higher temp developers to patch and leave.

On 12/23/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
For anyone still using XP who is interested, Code Factory states that
MSAPI5
Eloquence works in Windows Vista, 7, 8, and 10. I tried it on my XP
Service
Pack 3 machine today and it runs properly. Many years ago, I tried it
on
another XP machine I no longer have running Service Pack 2. It ran in
that
as well so it will probably run in XP in general.

Also, since an MSAPI5 synthesizer should run in any program that
supports
MSAPI5 speech, it should run in the beta versions of NVDA as well as in
the
earlier versions. So it should make no difference if you are going to
use
the new versions as they come out or continue to use an old one.

Gene




.



Re: Using NVDA on a tablet.

John Isige
 

So I tried putting my surface into tablet mode. If I'm using it normally, I can move around the touch screen and find qRead and double tap it, and the window will open. If it's in tablet mode though, I get qRead as a running window at the bottom of the screen as a button with a submenu. If I double tap that, it says pressed, but I don't see anything new, just the start menu with the tiles. Am I missing something? How am I supposed to get to things, e.g. the desktop or what have you? I generally get using touch gestures on NVDA, but I'm clearly missing something when trying to use the Surface purely as a tablet. In theory if I have qRead open I can get into the window and do a three finger flick down to start reading, since I've got enhanced touch installed. But I am clearly missing something about Windows' tablet mode.

On 12/17/2019 23:35, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Ah, touchscreens...
1. Moving around text inside a window: this is done with what's called "text mode" (you can toggle between at least two touch modes by doing a three finger single tap; I'll explain why I said "at least two modes" below). In text mode, one finger flick right or left will move to next or previous character, two finger flick right or left will move to next or previous word, and one finger flick down or up will move to next or previous line. This is in relation to review cursor.
2. Thunderbird email entries: if the logic from other email clients is applicable, then yes, you can move between messages by using one finger flick left or right in object mode.
3. Touchscreen tutorial: already covered by yours truly as part of Welcome to NVDA series.

As for my remark on touch modes above: yes, I did say "at least two modes". The reason: Enhanced Touch Gestures add-on (I know, I find myself advertising my add-ons on a monthly basis...). IN addition to text and object modes, Enhanced Touch Gestures adds two additional touch modes:
* Synth settings: used to change synthesizer settings on the fly such as rate and voice (two finger flick left or right to step through settings, two finger flick up or down to change settings).
* Web: used to navigate between different web elements (one finger flick up or down to go through web elements (regular/normal, headings, links, form fields, frames, tables, landmarks), one finger flick left or right to move amongst elements).
But that's a small taste of what that add-on can do (it is perhaps one of the most powerful add-ons out there besides Remote and Windows 10 App Essentials).
Cheers,
JOseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 9:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using NVDA on a tablet.

Hey all. I know this has been talked about in here before, but it seems to have been pretty brief. I don't want a whole crash course on using a tablet, I'll keep it to a simple use case.


I have QRead, or Notepad, or whatever open with some text. I pull the tablet off of the keyboard, so now it's a tablet, it's a Surface Pro, if that matters. I can move around on the desktop or whatever to get to a program, and double tap it, and it will open. I still haven't figured out if that puts me in its window, so let's say the window's already open. How do I:


1. Get to the window, and put focus in the window?


2. Make the window read, i.e. a say-all, the equivalent of NVDA-a in the laptop layout? I assume touching anywhere on the screen will stop it.


I've briefly tried messing with this, and although I get the basic
swiping to objects and such, I still haven't figured out what happens
once an object is active, lie what I'm talking about here. I don't know
how to get inside of it and manipulate the insides, so to speak, with
touch gestures. As another example, assume I open Thunderbird. I'm not
sure the individual messages get treated as objects, do they?


If somebody can cover this use case, I can start playing with things,
and I can see about making a tutorial, at least in text and possibly
audio, since I know I'm not the only person to ask about this.






Re: Eloquence in XP and Windows 10

Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo
 

liquince & other hq voices for nvda payed and free NVDA voices for the
new NVDA for the brand-new NVDA are there out yet?

On 12/23/19, Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo via Groups.Io
<chikodinaka.2girls=gmail.com@groups.io> wrote:
whin will the new voices come out for the new NVDA

On 12/23/19, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:
Their licences are ok as long as you deactivate before any major bios or
os update and you can reset them easily by contacting them or atguys
where I got my stuff from.

The issue I have is if the server goes down and they ask to well check
to see if they are active they instantly becaome non active.

You don't lose your seat but still.



On 24/12/2019 12:09 pm, Hareth wrote:
After the eloquence for android ripoff
I won't purchase any Code Factory product in the future.
they have the poorest license check and fix if error bit it.
among all the paid software I've known and used.
plus From the way of their updates routine,
It look like they higher temp developers to patch and leave.

On 12/23/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
For anyone still using XP who is interested, Code Factory states that
MSAPI5
Eloquence works in Windows Vista, 7, 8, and 10. I tried it on my XP
Service
Pack 3 machine today and it runs properly. Many years ago, I tried it
on
another XP machine I no longer have running Service Pack 2. It ran in
that
as well so it will probably run in XP in general.

Also, since an MSAPI5 synthesizer should run in any program that
supports
MSAPI5 speech, it should run in the beta versions of NVDA as well as in
the
earlier versions. So it should make no difference if you are going to
use
the new versions as they come out or continue to use an old one.

Gene




.





Re: Eloquence in XP and Windows 10

Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo
 

whin will the new voices come out for the new NVDA

On 12/23/19, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:
Their licences are ok as long as you deactivate before any major bios or
os update and you can reset them easily by contacting them or atguys
where I got my stuff from.

The issue I have is if the server goes down and they ask to well check
to see if they are active they instantly becaome non active.

You don't lose your seat but still.



On 24/12/2019 12:09 pm, Hareth wrote:
After the eloquence for android ripoff
I won't purchase any Code Factory product in the future.
they have the poorest license check and fix if error bit it.
among all the paid software I've known and used.
plus From the way of their updates routine,
It look like they higher temp developers to patch and leave.

On 12/23/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
For anyone still using XP who is interested, Code Factory states that
MSAPI5
Eloquence works in Windows Vista, 7, 8, and 10. I tried it on my XP
Service
Pack 3 machine today and it runs properly. Many years ago, I tried it
on
another XP machine I no longer have running Service Pack 2. It ran in
that
as well so it will probably run in XP in general.

Also, since an MSAPI5 synthesizer should run in any program that
supports
MSAPI5 speech, it should run in the beta versions of NVDA as well as in
the
earlier versions. So it should make no difference if you are going to
use
the new versions as they come out or continue to use an old one.

Gene




.



Re: Eloquence in XP and Windows 10

 

Their licences are ok as long as you deactivate before any major bios or os update and you can reset them easily by contacting them or atguys where I got my stuff from.

The issue I have is if the server goes down and they ask to well check to see if they are active they instantly becaome non active.

You don't lose your seat but still.

On 24/12/2019 12:09 pm, Hareth wrote:
After the eloquence for android ripoff
I won't purchase any Code Factory product in the future.
they have the poorest license check and fix if error bit it.
among all the paid software I've known and used.
plus From the way of their updates routine,
It look like they higher temp developers to patch and leave.

On 12/23/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
For anyone still using XP who is interested, Code Factory states that MSAPI5
Eloquence works in Windows Vista, 7, 8, and 10. I tried it on my XP Service
Pack 3 machine today and it runs properly. Many years ago, I tried it on
another XP machine I no longer have running Service Pack 2. It ran in that
as well so it will probably run in XP in general.

Also, since an MSAPI5 synthesizer should run in any program that supports
MSAPI5 speech, it should run in the beta versions of NVDA as well as in the
earlier versions. So it should make no difference if you are going to use
the new versions as they come out or continue to use an old one.

Gene



.


Re: Eloquence in XP and Windows 10

Arlene
 

Ey, how much did it cost to purchase the Eloquence for NVDA?  I don’t want it. I’m just curious.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: g melconian
Sent: December 23, 2019 3:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence in XP and Windows 10

 

Haryth, I do agree with you on this one.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hareth

Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 3:10 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence in XP and Windows 10

 

After the eloquence for android ripoff

I won't purchase any Code Factory product in the future.

they have the poorest license check and fix if error bit it.

among all the paid software  I've known and used.

plus From the way of their updates routine, It look like they higher temp developers to patch and leave.

 

On 12/23/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

> For anyone still using XP who is interested, Code Factory states that

> MSAPI5 Eloquence works in Windows Vista, 7, 8, and 10.  I tried it on

> my XP Service Pack 3 machine today and it runs properly.  Many years

> ago, I tried it on another XP machine I no longer have running Service

> Pack 2.  It ran in that as well so it will probably run in XP in general.

> Also, since an MSAPI5 synthesizer should run in any program that

> supports

> MSAPI5 speech, it should run in the beta versions of NVDA as well as

> in the earlier versions. So it should make no difference if you are

> going to use the new versions as they come out or continue to use an old one.

> Gene

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA 2019.3 Beta 1 is out

Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo
 

how can bedabaita of nvda

On 12/23/19, Kostadin Kolev <@k_kolev1985> wrote:
Hello Quentin,

Recently I was thinking about it and I've decided to ask/suggest what I was
thinking. It is related to the version number for the next release of NVDA.
Yes, it is planned to be 2019.3, but considering that it will probably come
out in early 2020, isn't it better to change it to 2020.1? And on second
thought (which came just as I was writing this) - maybe it is not such a
good idea to do such a change. Main reason against - it is the fact that
add-ons have compatibility flags in their templates and the change suggested
by me will brake those compatibility flags (the add-ons in practice will be
compatible, but the compatibility flags in them will indicate otherwise (and
the flags are what NVDA checks add-ons for compatibility)). So, we might as
well leave the NVDA version to be 2019.3, even if it will be released
probably in early 2020.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

На 9.12.2019 г. в 13:20, Quentin Christensen написа:

Replying to everyone at once just to save traffic:

Kostadin: I'm not sure when the translation freeze will begin, I'd suggest
likely early in the new year, but don't quote me on that - I'll try to get
you a more up to date answer.

Shaun: I'm not sure what you were replying to there about not wanting
another announcement?  Which one don't you want?  Also re audio themes,
yes, it will come, not in 2019.3, but it will come :)

Robert: Feel free to try the beta out, even if you are using non-standard
add-ons, at least you can work out what will work and what won't and maybe
find an alternative way for some things or convince add-on authors to
update (and ideally publish on the community page - unless they....
wouldn't meet the legal requirements, shall we say, in which case, do
consider finding an alternative :))

Gene: Glad the update didn't break your startup setting.  Fingers crossed
it works from now on! :)

Quentin.

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 7:52 PM hurrikennyandopo ...
<hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin


I noticed this time when I down loaded the beta it keeped my setting for
starting nvda when windows starts up. it used to un check the box so glad
it is fixed.


Well I am guessing it will stay the same from now on with each beta
update?


Gene nz


On 9/12/2019 8:32 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Sky,

The copy to clipboard etc conversation comes up regularly.  For now,
I'll just direct you to my comment last time this came
up: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/66783

Re Remote, there are arguments for and against that.  For, as you say,
means new users don't need to install an update.  Against is we often
get asked by companies installing NVDA about security and what data NVDA
can or does send.  Currently, it's quite easy to answer, as the program
sends very little information and no personal information or speech
content or what the user is doing.  If we included Remote in the core,
we'd need to work out how to keep everyone happy.  I'm not saying we
can't or wouldn't, but it won't be in 2019.3 (not least of which because
aside from whether we agree or not, we don't tend to add too many new
features after we release a beta - from now on, work on 2019.3 will
primarily be around stability and addressing any issues which get
reported.  New features will still be worked on, but for Alpha releases
looking towards inclusion in 2019.1.

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 6:21 PM Sky Mundell <skyt@...> wrote:

Hello Quentin. I have downloaded the NVDA 2019.3.1 Beta release, and I
have noticed a huge improvements over the 2019.2 one. Speech refactor
is certainly a wonderful thing and I applaud speech refactor very much.
However, there is one suggestion that could be included in the next
betas. And that is the ability to have NVDA say, copied to clipboard,
cut to clipboard, without the need for an add-on, and the second is I’d
like to see the remote functionality built into the core of NVDA so
that those of us who train on NVDA like myself can help clients without
them having to install add-ons. Thanks, Sky.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2019 10:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 Beta 1 is out



Hi everyone,



The big news you've all been waiting for - 2019.3 beta 1 is out.  Read
the full release notes
here: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta1-now-available-for-testing/



As well as the update to Python, there are lots of exciting things in
this release, some of these were covered in In-Process
recently: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-29th-november/ and a
few more will be highlighted in the next In-Process



Be sure to download it and please do let us know what works and
importantly, what
doesn't: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta1-now-available-for-testing/



Kind regards



Quentin.



--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



Web: www.nvaccess.org

Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Web: www.nvaccess.org
Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Web: www.nvaccess.org
Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: Eloquence in XP and Windows 10

Hareth
 

They simply dropped the support all together.
it wont work with the 64bit apps only future android OS.
plus they pooled it from the play store. even if you've purchased it
it and you have a direct link to its page, it would show this item is
no longer available.
In short if the user doesn't have a backed up apk file, or or have a
friend who does, he or she can kiss their money goodbye.
the only solution for them would be 3rd party websites, and those are
mostly offering a cracked eloquence file.
See the irony?

On 12/24/19, Lenron <lenron93@...> wrote:
Yeah I refuse to buy anything from them again. What a total rip

On 12/23/19, g melconian <gmelconian619@...> wrote:
Haryth, I do agree with you on this one.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hareth
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 3:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence in XP and Windows 10

After the eloquence for android ripoff
I won't purchase any Code Factory product in the future.
they have the poorest license check and fix if error bit it.
among all the paid software I've known and used.
plus From the way of their updates routine, It look like they higher temp
developers to patch and leave.

On 12/23/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
For anyone still using XP who is interested, Code Factory states that
MSAPI5 Eloquence works in Windows Vista, 7, 8, and 10. I tried it on
my XP Service Pack 3 machine today and it runs properly. Many years
ago, I tried it on another XP machine I no longer have running Service
Pack 2. It ran in that as well so it will probably run in XP in
general.

Also, since an MSAPI5 synthesizer should run in any program that
supports
MSAPI5 speech, it should run in the beta versions of NVDA as well as
in the earlier versions. So it should make no difference if you are
going to use the new versions as they come out or continue to use an old
one.

Gene










--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762




Re: Eloquence in XP and Windows 10

Lenron
 

Yeah I refuse to buy anything from them again. What a total rip

On 12/23/19, g melconian <gmelconian619@...> wrote:
Haryth, I do agree with you on this one.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hareth
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 3:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence in XP and Windows 10

After the eloquence for android ripoff
I won't purchase any Code Factory product in the future.
they have the poorest license check and fix if error bit it.
among all the paid software I've known and used.
plus From the way of their updates routine, It look like they higher temp
developers to patch and leave.

On 12/23/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
For anyone still using XP who is interested, Code Factory states that
MSAPI5 Eloquence works in Windows Vista, 7, 8, and 10. I tried it on
my XP Service Pack 3 machine today and it runs properly. Many years
ago, I tried it on another XP machine I no longer have running Service
Pack 2. It ran in that as well so it will probably run in XP in general.

Also, since an MSAPI5 synthesizer should run in any program that
supports
MSAPI5 speech, it should run in the beta versions of NVDA as well as
in the earlier versions. So it should make no difference if you are
going to use the new versions as they come out or continue to use an old
one.

Gene









--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762


Re: Eloquence in XP and Windows 10

g melconian
 

Haryth, I do agree with you on this one.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Hareth
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 3:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence in XP and Windows 10

After the eloquence for android ripoff
I won't purchase any Code Factory product in the future.
they have the poorest license check and fix if error bit it.
among all the paid software I've known and used.
plus From the way of their updates routine, It look like they higher temp developers to patch and leave.

On 12/23/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
For anyone still using XP who is interested, Code Factory states that
MSAPI5 Eloquence works in Windows Vista, 7, 8, and 10. I tried it on
my XP Service Pack 3 machine today and it runs properly. Many years
ago, I tried it on another XP machine I no longer have running Service
Pack 2. It ran in that as well so it will probably run in XP in general.

Also, since an MSAPI5 synthesizer should run in any program that
supports
MSAPI5 speech, it should run in the beta versions of NVDA as well as
in the earlier versions. So it should make no difference if you are
going to use the new versions as they come out or continue to use an old one.

Gene




Re: Eloquence in XP and Windows 10

Gene
 

What did they do?  As I recall, they aren't selling Eloquence for Android any longer but can't you use what you already purchased?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Hareth
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 5:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence in XP and Windows 10

After the eloquence for android ripoff
I won't purchase any Code Factory product in the future.
they have the poorest license check and fix if error bit it.
among all the paid software  I've known and used.
plus From the way of their updates routine,
It look like they higher temp developers to patch and leave.

On 12/23/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> For anyone still using XP who is interested, Code Factory states that MSAPI5
> Eloquence works in Windows Vista, 7, 8, and 10.  I tried it on my XP Service
> Pack 3 machine today and it runs properly.  Many years ago, I tried it on
> another XP machine I no longer have running Service Pack 2.  It ran in that
> as well so it will probably run in XP in general.
>
> Also, since an MSAPI5 synthesizer should run in any program that supports
> MSAPI5 speech, it should run in the beta versions of NVDA as well as in the
> earlier versions. So it should make no difference if you are going to use
> the new versions as they come out or continue to use an old one.
>
> Gene
>
>
>
>



Re: Windows OneCore Voices Speed

Arlene
 

Hi, I only used Eloquence with jaws. I use whatever voice NVDA comes with.  I change the rate to my liking!

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Annette Moore
Sent: December 23, 2019 11:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 1 Core Voices Speed

 

I stopped using Eloquence a while back. I didn't think I'd ever get used to a different voice, but I now actually prefer Microsoft Zira in the OneCore voices, and yes, you can speed them up. You have to go to the rate boost option and check it. to get to the rate boost option, I do the following:

NVDA+control+v, then tab over until you hear rate boost. Check that box and tab to OK. You might be able to play around with the rates after checking that rate boost box before going to OK, but I'd hit OK, then I'd go back into those settings and set your rate and then tab to OK again. If you have NVDA 2019.2 this should work. I think the rate boost option came as a feature to 2019.2. It was either 1 or 2, I don't remember, but I'm certainly glad it's available. Hope this helps.

Annette

On 12/23/2019 8:57 AM, kelby carlson wrote:

Which voices do you use? The version of Eloquence I am using is nout out for NVDA 2019.3. I find Espeak very difficult to use and don't have options besides the 1 Core voices.

 

On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 9:18 AM molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> wrote:

Hi.

You might like to try the rate boost. If it’s turned on NVDA will speak very fast. If using laptop, hold down control, shift, NVDA and use left or right arrow to navigate to rate boost option. Press up arrow to turn it on, down arrow to turn it off.

I am I am not sure what the commands for desktop are.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of kelby carlson
Sent: Monday, December 23, 2019 8:44 AM
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Windows 1 Core Voices Speed

 

Is there a way to increase the speed of the Windows 1 Core Voices while using them with NVDA? Even set at 100%, the rate is still extremely slow.


--

Kelby Carlson



--

Kelby Carlson