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Re: confused

David Griffith
 

I would be tempted to do a Windows Re-install with all these difficulties with the core functioning of my main screenreader.

However assuming  that you want to stick with your setup and do not want to switch to using Explorer ++ the way I have coped with NVDA difficulties with File Explorer  in the past was to switch to Narrator with control windows enter  until NVDA started responding again.

The situation is better now but for a long time NVDA was pretty dreadful with File Explorer for me, taking ages and ages to recognise and respond to any files in a file explorer list.  Not just sluggish but completely unresponsive. In those situations I simply switched to Narrator and used that with File Explorer. Unlike NVDA Narrator would instantly start reading the necessary filenames as you cursor down.  I continued like this until NVDA decided to wake up again. As soon as NVDA was responding again I would turn Narrator off again with control windows enter and revert to using NVDA solely.

You could try the same approach with your File Explorer Drive tree.

David Griffith

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: 27 December 2019 07:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] confused

 

I use the tree view to get to places quickly.  Aside from drive C I have E, F, H, K, and N as well as needing to get to Dropbox quickly. Can you imagine all the backspacing I would have to do?

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 5:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] confused

 

Its interesting.  You have established that the tree view is workihng properlhy but that NVDA isn’t recognizing it.  Are you pursuing this because you particularly want to use the tree view instead of the list view or just as a matter of curiosity and interest? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 5:32 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] confused

 

Here is an update. I discovered that when I shift tab to where the tree view is suppose to be and I know the first two letters of where I am trying to get to I find I am in the correct place. Even though nothing is announced until I tab to the item view and voila! I’m in the right place. So the tree view is there but NVDA is not announcing where I am.

 

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 8:38 AM
To: Gene; nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] confused

 

I just looked at the setting in the advanced category.  I don't think it applies, but if the check box is checked, uncheck it.  I doubt you ever changed the setting but I was trying to think of something that might apply.

 

Also, though I don't think it would make any difference, have you tried changing the window, maximizing it if it isn't, or restoring it if it isn't?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 8:52 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] confused

 

Is the item view the same as a list view?  If so, you can use it very efficiently and, I prefer the list view because nothing automatically opens.  Simply back space to move up one level and press enter to open something like a drive or a folder. 


As to why the tree view isn't being read, I don't know, but I wonder if it has anything to do with the UIA setting being used.  I don't know where it is in NVDA, but there is a setting for using UIA or not using UIA.  What is it set for?  others can discuss that setting in more detail, I don't have Windows 10.

 

]Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 6:46 AM

Subject: [nvda] confused

 

I have downgraded to 2019.2 and I still get the same result. When I open file explorer and shift tab from the item view to what  should be the tree view NVDA does not speak. If I shift tab again it says Cortana. When I turn NVDA off and open JAWS the tree view is there. Two weeks ago everything was fine. I have even uninstalled NVDA and reinstalled and get the same results. On my laptop which is also running NVDA2019.2.1 it is working just fine in this area.  The only major thing that I have done in this time period is to upgrade Windows to    

Version 1909 OS build 18365.535.

I am running the same version and build on the laptop but not having this problem in file explorer there.

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

 

 


Re: confused

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I use the tree view to get to places quickly.  Aside from drive C I have E, F, H, K, and N as well as needing to get to Dropbox quickly. Can you imagine all the backspacing I would have to do?

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 5:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] confused

 

Its interesting.  You have established that the tree view is workihng properlhy but that NVDA isn’t recognizing it.  Are you pursuing this because you particularly want to use the tree view instead of the list view or just as a matter of curiosity and interest? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 5:32 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] confused

 

Here is an update. I discovered that when I shift tab to where the tree view is suppose to be and I know the first two letters of where I am trying to get to I find I am in the correct place. Even though nothing is announced until I tab to the item view and voila! I’m in the right place. So the tree view is there but NVDA is not announcing where I am.

 

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 8:38 AM
To: Gene; nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] confused

 

I just looked at the setting in the advanced category.  I don't think it applies, but if the check box is checked, uncheck it.  I doubt you ever changed the setting but I was trying to think of something that might apply.

 

Also, though I don't think it would make any difference, have you tried changing the window, maximizing it if it isn't, or restoring it if it isn't?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 8:52 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] confused

 

Is the item view the same as a list view?  If so, you can use it very efficiently and, I prefer the list view because nothing automatically opens.  Simply back space to move up one level and press enter to open something like a drive or a folder. 


As to why the tree view isn't being read, I don't know, but I wonder if it has anything to do with the UIA setting being used.  I don't know where it is in NVDA, but there is a setting for using UIA or not using UIA.  What is it set for?  others can discuss that setting in more detail, I don't have Windows 10.

 

]Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 6:46 AM

Subject: [nvda] confused

 

I have downgraded to 2019.2 and I still get the same result. When I open file explorer and shift tab from the item view to what  should be the tree view NVDA does not speak. If I shift tab again it says Cortana. When I turn NVDA off and open JAWS the tree view is there. Two weeks ago everything was fine. I have even uninstalled NVDA and reinstalled and get the same results. On my laptop which is also running NVDA2019.2.1 it is working just fine in this area.  The only major thing that I have done in this time period is to upgrade Windows to    

Version 1909 OS build 18365.535.

I am running the same version and build on the laptop but not having this problem in file explorer there.

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

 

 


Re: confused

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

The problem still exists. I noticed that when I press windows +t to bring up the task bar it says unknown there too.

I have done the following:

Run restore

Uninstalled NVDA

Deleted the NVDA folder in app-data\roaming

Downgraded to 2019.2

There is no change.

 

Is there something else I should have deleted after uninstalling to make sure NVDA was completely removed?

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 8:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] more confusion

 

Hi,

Try the following in the order shown:

  1. Restart NVDA while focused on these apps.
  2. Restart the computer.
  3. Run “COM registration fixing tool” – NVDA menu/Tools/Run COM registration fixing tool and follow the prompts.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 7:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] more confusion

 

Now when I go to chrome it only says unknown. In IE it only reads the title bar. In Edge I get a little more but it drags a lot before saying anything.

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

 


Re: confused

 

Hi,

Try the following in the order shown:

  1. Restart NVDA while focused on these apps.
  2. Restart the computer.
  3. Run “COM registration fixing tool” – NVDA menu/Tools/Run COM registration fixing tool and follow the prompts.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 7:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] more confusion

 

Now when I go to chrome it only says unknown. In IE it only reads the title bar. In Edge I get a little more but it drags a lot before saying anything.

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 


confused

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

Now when I go to chrome it only says unknown. In IE it only reads the title bar. In Edge I get a little more but it drags a lot before saying anything.

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 


Re: Announcing Capital Letters

Gene
 

It isn’t a question of right or wrong.  Your synthesizer may respond, or respond as you wish at fifthy percent.  But Eloquence users would find fifthy percent to be very piercing and extremely exaggerated.  It depends on the synthesizer, so I don’t suggest or prescribe a general setting. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 5:47 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
 
Hi
Maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years then.  I use 50% to
make it obvious because I find 30% can be indistinct in some cases.
At least when Colin experiences the output for whatever synthesizer he
uses, I'm sure he is capable of adjusting the setting to his personal
preference.

Cheers
Chris

On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> That is not correct.  Fifty percent is extrremely too high pitched for some
> synthesizers.  It may be alright for others.  the default is 30 percent and
> I wouldn't assume that that is remotely correct for a lot of synthesizers.
> also, these settings are all on by default and they don't change from one
> synthesizer to another.  It is very unlikely that a new user would turn them
> off.   Therefore, the problem is very likely related to the synthesizer or
> some problem with the NVDA installation.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Chris Mullins
> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 3:04 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
>
>
> Hi
> Use NVDA+Control+k to open the Keyboard settings dialog and ensure the
> check box entitled "Beep if typing lowercase when caps lock is on" is
> checked.  This will cause a beep to sound if you type a shifted
> letter, giving you a big clue that caps lock is on."
> Secondly, for each synthesizer you use, press NVDA+Control+v to open
> the Voice Settings dialog and ensure the edit box entitled "Capital
> pitch change perCentage" is set to at least 50%  This will make it
> obvious that you are typing a capital letter or reviewing one when
> reading letter by letter.  Note: Ensure you  have "Speak typed
> characters" active (NVDA+NumRow 2) to get this feedback when typing.
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
> On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> I suspect you are using the illegal add-on which isn’t supported on the
>> list.  the list can’t, for legal reasons, support oor assist in using
>> such
>> software.  If you want Eloquence that functions properlhy, you can
>> ppurchase
>> either an add-on for it or an MSAPI version of Eloquence.  I and other
>> list
>> members would be happy to provide more information.  You can try demos of
>> both, if you wish.
>>
>> Meantime, trhy switching to another synthesizer to see if capital
>> notification works properly.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Colin Phelan
>> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:58 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
>>
>> You might be onto something there I am using eloquence which did not come
>> as
>> part of the initial NVDA download thoughts welcome and thanks Colin
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26 Dec 2019, at 6:44 pm, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>   You should hear a beep if the caps lock is on and you use the shift key
>> and type a letter.  NVDA by default raises the pitch of capital letters.
>> If
>> you don’t hear that, what synthesizer are you using.  The first thing we
>> need to determine is whether the problem is a limitation of the
>> synthesizer
>> or some problem perhaps with the NVDA installation.
>>
>>   Gene
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Colin Phelan
>>   Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:33 PM
>>   To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>   Subject: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
>>
>>   I am new to NVDA and recognise this is a basic question, however, I
>> cannot
>> seem to get NVDA to give me feedback with regard to if I am typing
>> capital
>> letters which is a concern as caps lock may be on by accident.
>>
>>   Please confirm settings to be ticked and how to ensure settings are
>> saved
>> in case this is the issue.
>>
>>   Thanks
>>
>>   Colin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>



Re: confused

Gene
 

Its interesting.  You have established that the tree view is workihng properlhy but that NVDA isn’t recognizing it.  Are you pursuing this because you particularly want to use the tree view instead of the list view or just as a matter of curiosity and interest? 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] confused
 

Here is an update. I discovered that when I shift tab to where the tree view is suppose to be and I know the first two letters of where I am trying to get to I find I am in the correct place. Even though nothing is announced until I tab to the item view and voila! I’m in the right place. So the tree view is there but NVDA is not announcing where I am.

 

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 8:38 AM
To: Gene; nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] confused

 

I just looked at the setting in the advanced category.  I don't think it applies, but if the check box is checked, uncheck it.  I doubt you ever changed the setting but I was trying to think of something that might apply.

 

Also, though I don't think it would make any difference, have you tried changing the window, maximizing it if it isn't, or restoring it if it isn't?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 8:52 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] confused

 

Is the item view the same as a list view?  If so, you can use it very efficiently and, I prefer the list view because nothing automatically opens.  Simply back space to move up one level and press enter to open something like a drive or a folder. 


As to why the tree view isn't being read, I don't know, but I wonder if it has anything to do with the UIA setting being used.  I don't know where it is in NVDA, but there is a setting for using UIA or not using UIA.  What is it set for?  others can discuss that setting in more detail, I don't have Windows 10.

 

]Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 6:46 AM

Subject: [nvda] confused

 

I have downgraded to 2019.2 and I still get the same result. When I open file explorer and shift tab from the item view to what  should be the tree view NVDA does not speak. If I shift tab again it says Cortana. When I turn NVDA off and open JAWS the tree view is there. Two weeks ago everything was fine. I have even uninstalled NVDA and reinstalled and get the same results. On my laptop which is also running NVDA2019.2.1 it is working just fine in this area.  The only major thing that I have done in this time period is to upgrade Windows to    

Version 1909 OS build 18365.535.

I am running the same version and build on the laptop but not having this problem in file explorer there.

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

 


Re: Announcing Capital Letters

Chris Mullins
 

Hi
Maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years then. I use 50% to
make it obvious because I find 30% can be indistinct in some cases.
At least when Colin experiences the output for whatever synthesizer he
uses, I'm sure he is capable of adjusting the setting to his personal
preference.

Cheers
Chris

On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
That is not correct. Fifty percent is extrremely too high pitched for some
synthesizers. It may be alright for others. the default is 30 percent and
I wouldn't assume that that is remotely correct for a lot of synthesizers.
also, these settings are all on by default and they don't change from one
synthesizer to another. It is very unlikely that a new user would turn them
off. Therefore, the problem is very likely related to the synthesizer or
some problem with the NVDA installation.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 3:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters


Hi
Use NVDA+Control+k to open the Keyboard settings dialog and ensure the
check box entitled "Beep if typing lowercase when caps lock is on" is
checked. This will cause a beep to sound if you type a shifted
letter, giving you a big clue that caps lock is on."
Secondly, for each synthesizer you use, press NVDA+Control+v to open
the Voice Settings dialog and ensure the edit box entitled "Capital
pitch change perCentage" is set to at least 50% This will make it
obvious that you are typing a capital letter or reviewing one when
reading letter by letter. Note: Ensure you have "Speak typed
characters" active (NVDA+NumRow 2) to get this feedback when typing.

Cheers
Chris

On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I suspect you are using the illegal add-on which isn’t supported on the
list. the list can’t, for legal reasons, support oor assist in using
such
software. If you want Eloquence that functions properlhy, you can
ppurchase
either an add-on for it or an MSAPI version of Eloquence. I and other
list
members would be happy to provide more information. You can try demos of
both, if you wish.

Meantime, trhy switching to another synthesizer to see if capital
notification works properly.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Colin Phelan
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

You might be onto something there I am using eloquence which did not come
as
part of the initial NVDA download thoughts welcome and thanks Colin



On 26 Dec 2019, at 6:44 pm, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:


You should hear a beep if the caps lock is on and you use the shift key
and type a letter. NVDA by default raises the pitch of capital letters.
If
you don’t hear that, what synthesizer are you using. The first thing we
need to determine is whether the problem is a limitation of the
synthesizer
or some problem perhaps with the NVDA installation.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Colin Phelan
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

I am new to NVDA and recognise this is a basic question, however, I
cannot
seem to get NVDA to give me feedback with regard to if I am typing
capital
letters which is a concern as caps lock may be on by accident.

Please confirm settings to be ticked and how to ensure settings are
saved
in case this is the issue.

Thanks

Colin











Re: confused

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I checked the advance option in settings and the box was unchecked. I did look at what it offered but all it did was to cause me to scratch my head. So I turned it back off.

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 8:38 AM
To: Gene; nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] confused

 

I just looked at the setting in the advanced category.  I don't think it applies, but if the check box is checked, uncheck it.  I doubt you ever changed the setting but I was trying to think of something that might apply.

 

Also, though I don't think it would make any difference, have you tried changing the window, maximizing it if it isn't, or restoring it if it isn't?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 8:52 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] confused

 

Is the item view the same as a list view?  If so, you can use it very efficiently and, I prefer the list view because nothing automatically opens.  Simply back space to move up one level and press enter to open something like a drive or a folder. 


As to why the tree view isn't being read, I don't know, but I wonder if it has anything to do with the UIA setting being used.  I don't know where it is in NVDA, but there is a setting for using UIA or not using UIA.  What is it set for?  others can discuss that setting in more detail, I don't have Windows 10.

 

]Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 6:46 AM

Subject: [nvda] confused

 

I have downgraded to 2019.2 and I still get the same result. When I open file explorer and shift tab from the item view to what  should be the tree view NVDA does not speak. If I shift tab again it says Cortana. When I turn NVDA off and open JAWS the tree view is there. Two weeks ago everything was fine. I have even uninstalled NVDA and reinstalled and get the same results. On my laptop which is also running NVDA2019.2.1 it is working just fine in this area.  The only major thing that I have done in this time period is to upgrade Windows to     

Version 1909 OS build 18365.535.

I am running the same version and build on the laptop but not having this problem in file explorer there.

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

 


Re: confused

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

Here is an update. I discovered that when I shift tab to where the tree view is suppose to be and I know the first two letters of where I am trying to get to I find I am in the correct place. Even though nothing is announced until I tab to the item view and voila! I’m in the right place. So the tree view is there but NVDA is not announcing where I am.

 

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 8:38 AM
To: Gene; nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] confused

 

I just looked at the setting in the advanced category.  I don't think it applies, but if the check box is checked, uncheck it.  I doubt you ever changed the setting but I was trying to think of something that might apply.

 

Also, though I don't think it would make any difference, have you tried changing the window, maximizing it if it isn't, or restoring it if it isn't?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 8:52 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] confused

 

Is the item view the same as a list view?  If so, you can use it very efficiently and, I prefer the list view because nothing automatically opens.  Simply back space to move up one level and press enter to open something like a drive or a folder. 


As to why the tree view isn't being read, I don't know, but I wonder if it has anything to do with the UIA setting being used.  I don't know where it is in NVDA, but there is a setting for using UIA or not using UIA.  What is it set for?  others can discuss that setting in more detail, I don't have Windows 10.

 

]Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 6:46 AM

Subject: [nvda] confused

 

I have downgraded to 2019.2 and I still get the same result. When I open file explorer and shift tab from the item view to what  should be the tree view NVDA does not speak. If I shift tab again it says Cortana. When I turn NVDA off and open JAWS the tree view is there. Two weeks ago everything was fine. I have even uninstalled NVDA and reinstalled and get the same results. On my laptop which is also running NVDA2019.2.1 it is working just fine in this area.  The only major thing that I have done in this time period is to upgrade Windows to     

Version 1909 OS build 18365.535.

I am running the same version and build on the laptop but not having this problem in file explorer there.

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

 


Re: Announcing Capital Letters

Gene
 

That is not correct.  Fifty percent is extrremely too high pitched for some synthesizers.  It may be alright for others.  the default is 30 percent and I wouldn't assume that that is remotely correct for a lot of synthesizers.  also, these settings are all on by default and they don't change from one synthesizer to another.  It is very unlikely that a new user would turn them off.   Therefore, the problem is very likely related to the synthesizer or some problem with the NVDA installation.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

Hi
Use NVDA+Control+k to open the Keyboard settings dialog and ensure the
check box entitled "Beep if typing lowercase when caps lock is on" is
checked.  This will cause a beep to sound if you type a shifted
letter, giving you a big clue that caps lock is on."
Secondly, for each synthesizer you use, press NVDA+Control+v to open
the Voice Settings dialog and ensure the edit box entitled "Capital
pitch change perCentage" is set to at least 50%  This will make it
obvious that you are typing a capital letter or reviewing one when
reading letter by letter.  Note: Ensure you  have "Speak typed
characters" active (NVDA+NumRow 2) to get this feedback when typing.

Cheers
Chris

On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> I suspect you are using the illegal add-on which isn’t supported on the
> list.  the list can’t, for legal reasons, support oor assist in using such
> software.  If you want Eloquence that functions properlhy, you can ppurchase
> either an add-on for it or an MSAPI version of Eloquence.  I and other list
> members would be happy to provide more information.  You can try demos of
> both, if you wish.
>
> Meantime, trhy switching to another synthesizer to see if capital
> notification works properly.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Colin Phelan
> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:58 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
>
> You might be onto something there I am using eloquence which did not come as
> part of the initial NVDA download thoughts welcome and thanks Colin
>
>
>
> On 26 Dec 2019, at 6:44 pm, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>
>
>   You should hear a beep if the caps lock is on and you use the shift key
> and type a letter.  NVDA by default raises the pitch of capital letters.  If
> you don’t hear that, what synthesizer are you using.  The first thing we
> need to determine is whether the problem is a limitation of the synthesizer
> or some problem perhaps with the NVDA installation.
>
>   Gene
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Colin Phelan
>   Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:33 PM
>   To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   Subject: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
>
>   I am new to NVDA and recognise this is a basic question, however, I cannot
> seem to get NVDA to give me feedback with regard to if I am typing capital
> letters which is a concern as caps lock may be on by accident.
>
>   Please confirm settings to be ticked and how to ensure settings are saved
> in case this is the issue.
>
>   Thanks
>
>   Colin
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



Re: Announcing Capital Letters

Chris Mullins
 

Hi
Use NVDA+Control+k to open the Keyboard settings dialog and ensure the
check box entitled "Beep if typing lowercase when caps lock is on" is
checked. This will cause a beep to sound if you type a shifted
letter, giving you a big clue that caps lock is on."
Secondly, for each synthesizer you use, press NVDA+Control+v to open
the Voice Settings dialog and ensure the edit box entitled "Capital
pitch change perCentage" is set to at least 50% This will make it
obvious that you are typing a capital letter or reviewing one when
reading letter by letter. Note: Ensure you have "Speak typed
characters" active (NVDA+NumRow 2) to get this feedback when typing.

Cheers
Chris

On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I suspect you are using the illegal add-on which isn’t supported on the
list. the list can’t, for legal reasons, support oor assist in using such
software. If you want Eloquence that functions properlhy, you can ppurchase
either an add-on for it or an MSAPI version of Eloquence. I and other list
members would be happy to provide more information. You can try demos of
both, if you wish.

Meantime, trhy switching to another synthesizer to see if capital
notification works properly.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Colin Phelan
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

You might be onto something there I am using eloquence which did not come as
part of the initial NVDA download thoughts welcome and thanks Colin



On 26 Dec 2019, at 6:44 pm, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:


You should hear a beep if the caps lock is on and you use the shift key
and type a letter. NVDA by default raises the pitch of capital letters. If
you don’t hear that, what synthesizer are you using. The first thing we
need to determine is whether the problem is a limitation of the synthesizer
or some problem perhaps with the NVDA installation.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Colin Phelan
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

I am new to NVDA and recognise this is a basic question, however, I cannot
seem to get NVDA to give me feedback with regard to if I am typing capital
letters which is a concern as caps lock may be on by accident.

Please confirm settings to be ticked and how to ensure settings are saved
in case this is the issue.

Thanks

Colin







Re: Announcing Capital Letters

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Have a look under the following 2 sections in nvda.

Press the nvda key + letter N then go to preferences then right to settings then press the enter key.


The 2 categories are speech and keyboard. Have a look under those 2 sections .


Gene nz


On 27/12/2019 7:33 am, Colin Phelan wrote:

I am new to NVDA and recognise this is a basic question, however, I cannot seem to get NVDA to give me feedback with regard to if I am typing capital letters which is a concern as caps lock may be on by accident.

Please confirm settings to be ticked and how to ensure settings are saved in case this is the issue.

Thanks

Colin

 


Re: Announcing Capital Letters

Gene
 

I suspect you are using the illegal add-on which isn’t supported on the list.  the list can’t, for legal reasons, support oor assist in using such software.  If you want Eloquence that functions properlhy, you can ppurchase either an add-on for it or an MSAPI version of Eloquence.  I and other list members would be happy to provide more information.  You can try demos of both, if you wish. 
 
Meantime, trhy switching to another synthesizer to see if capital notification works properly.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
 
You might be onto something there I am using eloquence which did not come as part of the initial NVDA download thoughts welcome and thanks Colin


On 26 Dec 2019, at 6:44 pm, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

You should hear a beep if the caps lock is on and you use the shift key and type a letter.  NVDA by default raises the pitch of capital letters.  If you don’t hear that, what synthesizer are you using.  The first thing we need to determine is whether the problem is a limitation of the synthesizer or some problem perhaps with the NVDA installation.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:33 PM
Subject: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
 

I am new to NVDA and recognise this is a basic question, however, I cannot seem to get NVDA to give me feedback with regard to if I am typing capital letters which is a concern as caps lock may be on by accident.

Please confirm settings to be ticked and how to ensure settings are saved in case this is the issue.

Thanks

Colin

 


Re: happy holidays

molly the blind tech lover
 

That's awesome you got a Bluetooth speaker.
I got a rechargeable flashlight. I can see a little, so I find it very useful, especially for at night.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 1:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] happy holidays

happy post Xmas. I have a bluetoothSpeaker. I love it so much

On 12/26/19, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
God bless you and your family too.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
zahra
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 10:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] happy holidays

hi. thanks. God bless you and your family!

On 12/26/19, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
Hi, Zara,

Happy new year. May 2020 be a better year for us all.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
zahra
Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2019 9:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] happy holidays

hi every one.
happy new year, God bless you and his mercy and graces i pray for you!

On 12/25/19, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:
Merry Christmas all!
You are such a blessing to me all year, so I hope you have a great
Christmas, and a Happy New Year!
I hope all of you have a great and relaxing time!
Have a great time with loved ones!
Thank you for all you guys do, and you are family to me!
David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Kendra Schaber
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 5:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] happy holidays

Hi all!
Marry Christmas to you too!!!


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 2:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] happy holidays

I would like to wish everybody a Merry Christmas!

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: December 24, 2019 9:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] happy holidays

Hi, Molly,


Happy Holidays to you and everyone on list. May 2020 be a better
year for all of us.


Rosemarie



On 12/24/2019 8:51 AM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
Hey everyone.

I'd like to wish you all happy holidays and a happy new year.



Regards



Molly












--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali








--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali








Re: Announcing Capital Letters

Colin Phelan <colinphelan1@...>
 

You might be onto something there I am using eloquence which did not come as part of the initial NVDA download thoughts welcome and thanks Colin


On 26 Dec 2019, at 6:44 pm, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

You should hear a beep if the caps lock is on and you use the shift key and type a letter.  NVDA by default raises the pitch of capital letters.  If you don’t hear that, what synthesizer are you using.  The first thing we need to determine is whether the problem is a limitation of the synthesizer or some problem perhaps with the NVDA installation.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:33 PM
Subject: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
 

I am new to NVDA and recognise this is a basic question, however, I cannot seem to get NVDA to give me feedback with regard to if I am typing capital letters which is a concern as caps lock may be on by accident.

Please confirm settings to be ticked and how to ensure settings are saved in case this is the issue.

Thanks

Colin

 


Re: happy holidays

Monte Single
 

OK, click on the link below for Annie Lennox and friends doing Winter Wonderland; and you'll like that speaker even more!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoraVkKtKzY

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo
Sent: December-26-19 12:46 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] happy holidays

happy post Xmas. I have a bluetoothSpeaker. I love it so much

On 12/26/19, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
God bless you and your family too.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
zahra
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 10:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] happy holidays

hi. thanks. God bless you and your family!

On 12/26/19, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
Hi, Zara,

Happy new year. May 2020 be a better year for us all.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
zahra
Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2019 9:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] happy holidays

hi every one.
happy new year, God bless you and his mercy and graces i pray for you!

On 12/25/19, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:
Merry Christmas all!
You are such a blessing to me all year, so I hope you have a great
Christmas, and a Happy New Year!
I hope all of you have a great and relaxing time!
Have a great time with loved ones!
Thank you for all you guys do, and you are family to me!
David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Kendra Schaber
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 5:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] happy holidays

Hi all!
Marry Christmas to you too!!!


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 2:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] happy holidays

I would like to wish everybody a Merry Christmas!

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: December 24, 2019 9:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] happy holidays

Hi, Molly,


Happy Holidays to you and everyone on list. May 2020 be a better
year for all of us.


Rosemarie



On 12/24/2019 8:51 AM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
Hey everyone.

I'd like to wish you all happy holidays and a happy new year.



Regards



Molly












--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali








--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali








Re: happy holidays

Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo
 

happy post Xmas. I have a bluetoothSpeaker. I love it so much

On 12/26/19, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
God bless you and your family too.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 10:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] happy holidays

hi. thanks. God bless you and your family!

On 12/26/19, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
Hi, Zara,

Happy new year. May 2020 be a better year for us all.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
zahra
Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2019 9:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] happy holidays

hi every one.
happy new year, God bless you and his mercy and graces i pray for you!

On 12/25/19, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:
Merry Christmas all!
You are such a blessing to me all year, so I hope you have a great
Christmas, and a Happy New Year!
I hope all of you have a great and relaxing time!
Have a great time with loved ones!
Thank you for all you guys do, and you are family to me!
David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Kendra Schaber
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 5:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] happy holidays

Hi all!
Marry Christmas to you too!!!


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2019 2:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] happy holidays

I would like to wish everybody a Merry Christmas!

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: December 24, 2019 9:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] happy holidays

Hi, Molly,


Happy Holidays to you and everyone on list. May 2020 be a better year
for all of us.


Rosemarie



On 12/24/2019 8:51 AM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
Hey everyone.

I'd like to wish you all happy holidays and a happy new year.



Regards



Molly












--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali








--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali








Re: Announcing Capital Letters

Gene
 

You should hear a beep if the caps lock is on and you use the shift key and type a letter.  NVDA by default raises the pitch of capital letters.  If you don’t hear that, what synthesizer are you using.  The first thing we need to determine is whether the problem is a limitation of the synthesizer or some problem perhaps with the NVDA installation.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:33 PM
Subject: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
 

I am new to NVDA and recognise this is a basic question, however, I cannot seem to get NVDA to give me feedback with regard to if I am typing capital letters which is a concern as caps lock may be on by accident.

Please confirm settings to be ticked and how to ensure settings are saved in case this is the issue.

Thanks

Colin

 


Re: Announcing Capital Letters

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi.

If you go to preferences, settings, then speech settings, there are checkboxes that you can check to have NVDA beep or announce capital letters. If you enable these options every time you type a capital letter NVDA will beep and tell you when you have typed a capital letter.  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Colin Phelan
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 1:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

 

I am new to NVDA and recognise this is a basic question, however, I cannot seem to get NVDA to give me feedback with regard to if I am typing capital letters which is a concern as caps lock may be on by accident.

Please confirm settings to be ticked and how to ensure settings are saved in case this is the issue.

Thanks

Colin