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Re: file explorer

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,
Make sure that file explorers window is maximized. Use the alt plus spacebar menu to do this.

Greg Wocher


On Dec 22, 2019, at 12:28 AM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:

I am running NVDA 2019.2.1. when I open file explorer I can no longer use the tree to move from drive to drive.
 
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character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                        
 


Re: Alternative like jaws curser for NVDA,

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi



the following link may help you just jump down to the section for frequently asked questions.


the link to this page is https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/FAQ

Hopefully it should answer your questions about jaws cursor or similar etc.


Gene nz


On 22/12/2019 5:25 pm, Ramesh Patil wrote:

Hello friends,

I would like to know there is any option to use NVDA as a jaws curser. I have used insert plus left aur right Arrow, but it it reads only certain loops. It's not moved from top to bottom means from title bar to end bar for any application.
I hope you know the behaviour of Jaws curser. I want the same alternative for NVDA

thank you regards
Ramesh Patil


file explorer

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I am running NVDA 2019.2.1. when I open file explorer I can no longer use the tree to move from drive to drive.

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 


Re: Accessing alerts on webpages

Arlene
 

, I think google staff may have to fix Chrome issues. I’ve noticed this with Both Jaws and NVDA.  I shave both latest versions of NVDA and Jaws. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: December 21, 2019 6:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages

 

I use Chrome mostly but that happens in Chrome also.  I have no idea if NVDA can solve the problem or if Chrome developers have to solve it. 

 

The information, whatever it is, seems to be unimportant; I can do what I want regardless of not being able to read the alert.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: zahra

Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2019 8:30 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages

 

for me, nvda sometimes says only alert!
and does not say the content of notification,
and i thaught that i cant interact with it or activate or accept it.
i use firefox.

On 12/21/19, Luke <bugsyman35@...> wrote:
> Hi!  Just seeing this now. I noticed you said you use Firefox in a message
> below. I use Firefox as well and I use this add on to get to the
> notifications https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html
> here is a excerpt from the link in which  it will help you • NVDA+Control+N
> Reads the last notification and it takes the system focus to it if it is
> possible.
>
>
>
> From: leochick78@...
> Sent: December 3, 2019 11:41 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages
>
>
>
> How does one access alerts on a webpage?  Like the would you like to save
> this password alert or answer an incoming chat request on a chat help page?
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
> Sarah
>
>
>
>


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

 


Re: Alternative like jaws curser for NVDA,

Arlene
 

Yes, that would be nice if you can have the same alternative for NVDA.  Speaking of NVDA, how does one put links in a list as you do with Jaws?  Can you do it?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Ramesh Patil
Sent: December 21, 2019 8:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Alternative like jaws curser for NVDA,

 

Hello friends,

I would like to know there is any option to use NVDA as a jaws curser. I have used insert plus left aur right Arrow, but it it reads only certain loops. It's not moved from top to bottom means from title bar to end bar for any application.
I hope you know the behaviour of Jaws curser. I want the same alternative for NVDA

thank you regards
Ramesh Patil

 


Re: Setting Up New All-In-One Computer with Win10, Acer Brand

Arlene
 

Hi there: Can you use Narator for your main screen reader? Someone did ask me if you can. I did tell this person I’m not sure if you can.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: December 21, 2019 8:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Setting Up New All-In-One Computer with Win10, Acer Brand

 

Well, the licence will be tied to your bios.

 

You will probably want to set the system up and refresh it/reformat

immediately because of the amount of bloat on it.

 

You can use fresh start for this but I forget where it is.

 

If you got office there is a key, most installs are the same and yeah

they work.

 

Narator has come a long way since 2016.

 

You can start and stop it and you can run nvda with it to if you want

you don't need to and you can't uninstall it.

 

I sometimes run nvda and narator together because narator scan can be

usefull.

 

You can set up windows with narator and to some extent use narator, nvda

will work with a lot more apps but if you read your article from 2016

well  its old.

 

As for office it depends on the version as I said.

 

Basically you will need to adjust background apps to not load everything

bar windows security, and you will also want to adjust your privacy and

security settings to what you want and a few other things.

 

If you are not wanting to reformat just yet, removing unwanted stuff is

fine.

 

The issue I have found with all the systems that have come preconfigured

mainly my hp boxes is that windows came with several recovery

partitions, including but not limited to, recovery bios and diagnostic

partitions and important recovery and oem partitions.

 

The point being that you may reach a point where windows will not be

able to install feature updates due to the fact there is no more space

to create a recovery partition and set extra stuff up.

 

There is a probable way round that but the way I have done it is to

clear out all the drives, by cleaning all partitions except with thehard

drive if its a secondary where I can clear the secondary partition off

it and then well expand the volume.

 

With windows and your drivers downloadable from the net you won't need

to have the spaciffic configurations needed anyway.

 

If you are going the new user rout, you probably will have a lot of

trials like mcafee  and other stuff about.

 

The easiest way is to download all the drivers or get someone to do it,

and then clear off the entire computer then recreate all partitions,

then and only then install windows or well you can do that yourself.

 

After doing this to all systems I have had no issue with them not

wanting to install updates for features at all.

 

I have always tried to custom build things myself but saying that I have

never had shop brought shop branded things so maybe I can control things.

 

 

 

 

On 22/12/2019 7:30 am, David Russell wrote:

> Hello NVDA Members,

> I first want to express thanks to NV Everiss for taking the time to

> send me an admittedly rough guide to ensure windows 10 gets installed

> on my newly purchased all-in-one computer.

> I have a couple concerns that relate to this topic and NVDA that may

> also be of concern to others in a similar situation:

> "I found a 2016 article at Accessibility Central, discouraging then

> the download of windows 2010 and reasons given. Since this comes with

> the Narrator Screen Reader, am I obligated to use it for setting up

> windows on any computer as a blind person?

> - Since Narrator is the built-in screen reading program, will the

> installation of Win10 work if I follow the steps from

> support.microsoft.com

> According to them one can install windows by using Narrator.

> Note: I did purchase a product key for MS Office, and though yet to

> open the box, assume a product key comes with the windows 10 on this

> Acer PC.

> - If I have to do much more to ensure proper install of windows and MS

> Office, than finding an outside vendor may be wise.

> - The final issue is if I want NVDA, can I uninstall Narrator and make

> NVDA the primary screen reader, once all is installed?

> Thanks once again!

> Sincerely,

 

 

 


Re: Setting Up New All-In-One Computer with Win10, Acer Brand

 

Well, the licence will be tied to your bios.

You will probably want to set the system up and refresh it/reformat immediately because of the amount of bloat on it.

You can use fresh start for this but I forget where it is.

If you got office there is a key, most installs are the same and yeah they work.

Narator has come a long way since 2016.

You can start and stop it and you can run nvda with it to if you want you don't need to and you can't uninstall it.

I sometimes run nvda and narator together because narator scan can be usefull.

You can set up windows with narator and to some extent use narator, nvda will work with a lot more apps but if you read your article from 2016 well  its old.

As for office it depends on the version as I said.

Basically you will need to adjust background apps to not load everything bar windows security, and you will also want to adjust your privacy and security settings to what you want and a few other things.

If you are not wanting to reformat just yet, removing unwanted stuff is fine.

The issue I have found with all the systems that have come preconfigured mainly my hp boxes is that windows came with several recovery partitions, including but not limited to, recovery bios and diagnostic partitions and important recovery and oem partitions.

The point being that you may reach a point where windows will not be able to install feature updates due to the fact there is no more space to create a recovery partition and set extra stuff up.

There is a probable way round that but the way I have done it is to clear out all the drives, by cleaning all partitions except with thehard drive if its a secondary where I can clear the secondary partition off it and then well expand the volume.

With windows and your drivers downloadable from the net you won't need to have the spaciffic configurations needed anyway.

If you are going the new user rout, you probably will have a lot of trials like mcafee  and other stuff about.

The easiest way is to download all the drivers or get someone to do it, and then clear off the entire computer then recreate all partitions, then and only then install windows or well you can do that yourself.

After doing this to all systems I have had no issue with them not wanting to install updates for features at all.

I have always tried to custom build things myself but saying that I have never had shop brought shop branded things so maybe I can control things.

On 22/12/2019 7:30 am, David Russell wrote:
Hello NVDA Members,

I first want to express thanks to NV Everiss for taking the time to
send me an admittedly rough guide to ensure windows 10 gets installed
on my newly purchased all-in-one computer.

I have a couple concerns that relate to this topic and NVDA that may
also be of concern to others in a similar situation:
"I found a 2016 article at Accessibility Central, discouraging then
the download of windows 2010 and reasons given. Since this comes with
the Narrator Screen Reader, am I obligated to use it for setting up
windows on any computer as a blind person?

- Since Narrator is the built-in screen reading program, will the
installation of Win10 work if I follow the steps from
support.microsoft.com

According to them one can install windows by using Narrator.

Note: I did purchase a product key for MS Office, and though yet to
open the box, assume a product key comes with the windows 10 on this
Acer PC.

- If I have to do much more to ensure proper install of windows and MS
Office, than finding an outside vendor may be wise.

- The final issue is if I want NVDA, can I uninstall Narrator and make
NVDA the primary screen reader, once all is installed?

Thanks once again!
Sincerely,


Alternative like jaws curser for NVDA,

Ramesh Patil
 

Hello friends,

I would like to know there is any option to use NVDA as a jaws curser. I have used insert plus left aur right Arrow, but it it reads only certain loops. It's not moved from top to bottom means from title bar to end bar for any application.
I hope you know the behaviour of Jaws curser. I want the same alternative for NVDA

thank you regards
Ramesh Patil


Re: Accessing alerts on webpages

Gene
 

I use Chrome mostly but that happens in Chrome also.  I have no idea if NVDA can solve the problem or if Chrome developers have to solve it. 
 
The information, whatever it is, seems to be unimportant; I can do what I want regardless of not being able to read the alert.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: zahra
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2019 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages

for me, nvda sometimes says only alert!
and does not say the content of notification,
and i thaught that i cant interact with it or activate or accept it.
i use firefox.

On 12/21/19, Luke <bugsyman35@...> wrote:
> Hi!  Just seeing this now. I noticed you said you use Firefox in a message
> below. I use Firefox as well and I use this add on to get to the
> notifications https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html
> here is a excerpt from the link in which  it will help you • NVDA+Control+N
> Reads the last notification and it takes the system focus to it if it is
> possible.
>
>
>
> From: leochick78@...
> Sent: December 3, 2019 11:41 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages
>
>
>
> How does one access alerts on a webpage?  Like the would you like to save
> this password alert or answer an incoming chat request on a chat help page?
>
> Thanks for any help,
>
> Sarah
>
>
>
>


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali



Re: Accessing alerts on webpages

 

for me, nvda sometimes says only alert!
and does not say the content of notification,
and i thaught that i cant interact with it or activate or accept it.
i use firefox.

On 12/21/19, Luke <bugsyman35@...> wrote:
Hi!  Just seeing this now. I noticed you said you use Firefox in a message
below. I use Firefox as well and I use this add on to get to the
notifications https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html
here is a excerpt from the link in which  it will help you • NVDA+Control+N
Reads the last notification and it takes the system focus to it if it is
possible.



From: leochick78@...
Sent: December 3, 2019 11:41 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Accessing alerts on webpages



How does one access alerts on a webpage?  Like the would you like to save
this password alert or answer an incoming chat request on a chat help page?

Thanks for any help,

Sarah



--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: OCR WITH NVDA

Kerryn Gunness
 


thanks all
 
i normally  hear recognising
but i dont see anything appearing
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 21, 2019 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OCR WITH NVDA

Hi kerryn


If it is the one that is part of windows 10 and nvda make sure it is in focus the item you want. then it is a matter of just useing the arrow keys to see what it says.


Gene nz


On 22/12/2019 6:50 am, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
windows     10 with NVDA
 
how to use OCR
i pressed nvda key and r and i got recognising
thats all
 
what happen next
 
thanks
 
kerryn
 


Re: Season's greetings

Arlene
 

Hi, have a wonderful Christmas to you all.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: December 21, 2019 2:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Season's greetings

 

Hi, Clyve,

 

Seasons greetings. May you get what you wish for and more.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

On 12/21/2019 2:28 PM, Clive Pallett wrote:

Hello everyone,

 

May I take this opportunity to wish all on the list the very best for the holiday season, however you celebrate it.  May all your presents be useful and accessible.

 

Best wishes,

 

Clive Pallett

 

 

 


Re: OCR WITH NVDA

John Isige
 

Sometimes it just doesn't recognize anything. I don't just mean it works
for some things and not others. I mean I've run it sometimes and gotten
text, and then run it again on the same thing and have gotten no text
whatsoever. I thought it was mostly in Facebook with memes so I didn't
care too much, but it happens in programs too. I thought I'd gotten it
working on FB by running with addons disabled, it worked, and then
worked for a while when I reenabled everything. But I think that's
stopped. This is on multiple machines BTW.

On 12/21/2019 17:49, Rui Fontes wrote:

Read the recognized text as if you were in NotePad...

When you want to click in anything you think is a control, press
SpaceBar...


Rui Fontes


Às 17:50 de 21/12/2019, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io escreveu:

windows     10 with NVDA
how to use OCR
i pressed nvda key and r and i got recognising
thats all
what happen next
thanks
kerryn


Re: OCR WITH NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

Read the recognized text as if you were in NotePad...

When you want to click in anything you think is a control, press SpaceBar...


Rui Fontes


Às 17:50 de 21/12/2019, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io escreveu:


windows     10 with NVDA
 
how to use OCR
i pressed nvda key and r and i got recognising
thats all
 
what happen next
 
thanks
 
kerryn
 


Re: Season's greetings

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Clyve,


Seasons greetings. May you get what you wish for and more.


Rosemarie



On 12/21/2019 2:28 PM, Clive Pallett wrote:
Hello everyone,
 
May I take this opportunity to wish all on the list the very best for the holiday season, however you celebrate it.  May all your presents be useful and accessible.
 
Best wishes,
 
Clive Pallett
 
 


Season's greetings

Clive Pallett
 

Hello everyone,
 
May I take this opportunity to wish all on the list the very best for the holiday season, however you celebrate it.  May all your presents be useful and accessible.
 
Best wishes,
 
Clive Pallett
 
 


Re: Drag and Drop Ishue

Luke Davis
 

This is a week old, but nobody answered. So...

What are you trying to drag and drop?

Sometimes there is another way.

Luke

On Sat, 14 Dec 2019, Bruno Aníbal Prieto González wrote:

Hello!
Is there a way to drag and drop with NVDA without using the mouse?
In theory, keeping the left click with the NVDA command and releasing
it in another mouse position should work, but that doesn't happen. The
only way I found to fix this is to hold down the physical mouse click
while with the other hand I move the object browser and synchronize it
with the mouse pointer.
Before I used a drag-and-drop addon but with NVDA 2019.3 it is no
longer compatible.

I remain attentive if you know anything, greetings and thank you very
much beforehand


--
Luke Davis
Moderator: the new NVDA Help mailing list! (https://groups.io/g/NVDAHelp)
Author: Debug Helper NVDA add-on (https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/debugHelper.en.html)


addons

Cecelia Rodriguez <cessbraille@...>
 

Are there any addons that allow NVDA to read text that is highlighted in a certain color?                  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: OCR WITH NVDA

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi kerryn


If it is the one that is part of windows 10 and nvda make sure it is in focus the item you want. then it is a matter of just useing the arrow keys to see what it says.


Gene nz


On 22/12/2019 6:50 am, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
windows     10 with NVDA
 
how to use OCR
i pressed nvda key and r and i got recognising
thats all
 
what happen next
 
thanks
 
kerryn
 


Re: Setting Up New All-In-One Computer with Win10, Acer Brand

 

As a separate note, I would like anyone who wishes to extend this conversation further to take it to the NVDA Chat Subgroup and/or consider asking on the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users group.  It's really not about NVDA in any meaningful way, as there's nothing distinctive about installing NVDA on Windows 10 versus 8.1 or 7.  You simply fetch the installer for the version you wish to install and run it.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.

         ~ Robert Frost, The Black Cottage (1914)