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Re: Strange symbols on my Braille display

Pele West
 

Hi Brian

I don't see "Braille Extender" or "Prevent Undefined characters with
Hexadecimal Value". Is there something I have to do to get it, like an
addon.

I am running NVDA 3.

Thanks

Pele West


Re: Accessible of google things in Google chrome

Marco Oros
 

Thank You very much. I'll check It, as soon, as I can.


Re: Strange symbols on my Braille display

Denis Sariyannis
 

Hi Adriani,
this issue not only appears in web browsers on several websites. Sometimes I also experience it in Windows, especially when the focus gets lost. But I don't know how to reproduce these situations and they happen rarely.

Best
Denis


Am Mo., 16. Dez. 2019 um 23:15 Uhr schrieb Adriani Botez <adriani.botez@...>:

Hey Denis,

 

are you experiencing this also on Firefox? And is this behavior only on Twitter? Or do you see it on every website?

 

Here is some background about the character that you get on your braille display. This is an object replacement character and although seems to be part of the accessibility tree, it should not be exposed to the braille display.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Accessibility/Architecture

 

Have you enabled any accessibility development features in Chrome which might expose those characters?

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Denis Sariyannis
Gesendet: Montag, 16. Dezember 2019 14:21
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] Strange symbols on my Braille display

 

Hi all,
When I switch to focus mode in Chrome, my Braille display often shows things like '\xfffc'. That also sometimes happens in other situations like on the Windows login screen. Are these symbols the result of ANSI codes not defined in the configured Braille table or where do these come from?

My Braille table is German Computer Braille. I'm using NVDA Version 2019.2.1 on Windows 10.
This problem is reproducible. On the Twitter website I turn on focus mode by pressing NVDA+SPACE. When I navigate through the tweets by pressing J and K my Braille display shows these groups of symbols exclusively. If I want to read information about the tweet I have to scroll left. So it seems the Braille display is at the very end of the line by default which ends with a '\xfffc'.
Do you have any idea what this could be?

Thanks and best regards
Denis

 

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Re: Accessible of google things in Google chrome

Aravind R
 

Check this youtube channel. Even though its based for jaws, it will
work for NVDA also.
https://www.youtube.com/FreedomScientificTraining

On 17/12/2019, Marco Oros <marco.oros93@...> wrote:
I have a question.

Is Google docs, Google slides, and Google sheets accessible in Google
chrome for NVDA?

If not, where I can post this suggestion?

Thank You.

best regards

Marco Oros





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Re: Accessible of google things in Google chrome

Nimer Jaber
 

Yes, they are accessible. Just be sure to enable accessibility mode, if you have not yet, by pressing ctrl+alt+z. Also, you must get comfortable in using web apps, and in jumping in and out of browse mode in order to achieve success with Docs, Sheets, and Slides.

Thanks.

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I have a question.

Is Google docs, Google slides, and Google sheets accessible in Google
chrome for NVDA?

If not, where I can post this suggestion?

Thank You.

best regards

Marco Oros






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Accessible of google things in Google chrome

Marco Oros
 

I have a question.

Is Google docs, Google slides, and Google sheets accessible in Google chrome for NVDA?

If not, where I can post this suggestion?

Thank You.

best regards

Marco Oros


Interesting issue with Desktop version of Facebook and Microsoft Edge Dev

 

While reading some posts on Facebook, I see a weird thing going on. Instead of saying how long ago the post was posted in one line, the letters will read out as I arrow down.


For example, "sponsored" will read

s

p

o

n

s

o

r

e

d


It's slightly annoying. I'm using alpha 19460 with the latest development version of Microsoft Edge, Development version. A solution to this would be fantastic.


Re: Strange symbols on my Braille display

Brian Tew
 

There is a setting that got rid of many weird symbols for me:

 NVDA menu, preferences, Braille Extender, Braille Tables, Prevent undefined characters with Hexadecimal Unicode value 


Re: How to make Android studio accessible

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Ramesh,

Try the NVDA 2019.3 beta 1 version which has improvements to Java which others have reported have improved the experience with Android Studio: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta1-now-available-for-testing/

On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 4:48 PM Ramesh Patil <ramesh.patil1989@...> wrote:

I am using windows 10 32 bit version with JDK 8 installed for 32 bit also I have activated Java access bridge but Android studio is not supporting Nvda screen reader



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Re: Strange possible bug with the latest veta of Nvda.

Quentin Christensen
 

It is likely because in our alpha (and now beta) versions, we have updated NVDA to use Python 3 rather than Python 2.  For the most part, you don't need to understand too much about programming, except in general, that is a needed step, I noted a couple of the reasons in our In-Process blog a few weeks ago:  https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-29th-november/

Basically, it means that all add-ons also need to be updated to Python 3.  Joseph has done a fantastic amount of work with many add-ons and add-on developers to help them, and he has also collated the status of all of the main official add-ons here: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/nvdapy3.en.html  

So, what I'd recommend, is contacting the developer of the RH Voice to advise them and request they update their NVDA add-on to Python 3.

regards

Quentin.



On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 9:21 AM Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io <the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi all,   I us RH voice,   I have all the voices for English installed,
  I only use Scottish Alan,   but for some reason I tried to change one
of the voices still using RH voice,   but it will not let me change from
Alan to one of the other voices.   I can say it used to work so not sure
why it is not changing now.   it does the same with the beta and alpha,
  any chance of some of the devs trying this or if someone is using the
same sinth as me maybe they can try this it used to work so not sure
when it changed.





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Re: Android studio accessibility for windows 32 bit

Jaffar Sidek
 

Ok.  do this:

1. open Android Studio with NVDA.

2. Press NVDA key+f1.  You are now presented with the NVDA log file.  Copy the contents and send me as an email to jaffar.sidek10@....  I'll do a check for you and try to help you solve your problem.  Cheers!

On 12/17/2019 9:52 AM, Ramesh Patil wrote:

I did all things. But NVDA still not reading anything . As i stated previous JAWS starts support.
What is problem with NVDA.


On Tue, Dec 17, 2019, 3:10 AM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Yes.  Set that as  your Android_home as your system variable.

On 12/16/2019 11:33 PM, Ramesh Patil wrote:

Yes its present their sir.
Should I set that path  asbenvironmental variable for android_home?


On Mon, Dec 16, 2019, 7:57 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

no it is in your c:\user\yourname\Appdata\Local\Android\SDK  Try this and let me know.

On 12/16/2019 10:09 PM, Ramesh Patil wrote:

Thank you sir for your reply.

I have downloaded Android studio from from official website. I have installed it. I have checked folder Android SDK in my program files but there is no search folder present.  The Android folder in program files contain one folder with Android studio and in that there are several folders like bin JRE  lib and others. But there is no any Android SDK folder.  Should I need to download Android SDK separately from website? But I did not find any such link for downloading Android SDK I found only SDK tools for command line on Android official website.

Another thing I would like to tell you that  in Android studio folder there is JRE  folder in that there is a bin folder so I have copied windows access bridge dll file from that folder and pasted to the windows system32 folder after that my jaws become accessible with Android studio but still NVDA  is not responding any thing

I am very new in Android programming so please if you can tell me in detail thank you

Thanks
Ramesh Patil
+91 84 4670 1980.


On Mon, Dec 16, 2019, 3:15 AM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi:

1.  Go to:

Control panel/System/Advanced System Settings/Environment Variables.  You will first land on "User Variables"  Tab until you hear "System Variables.

Now press the arrow key to see if Your ANDROID_Home is listed.

if not you will have to create one yourself:

2.  Still on the "System Variable tab", tab once to new.  you will land on an edit box that will allow you to type in your variable name.

Type ANDROID_HOME.

3.  now tab once more to another Edit box and fill in the full path to the directory name where your Android SDK resides.  If you don't know where it is, tab once more to locate the browse button.  Press space on it and tab to the tree view where you can open it up to look for your Android SDK installation, usually it is in:

c:\users\YourName\Appdata\Local\Android\Sdk.

Note: Some folders are hidden by default.  You have to go to Control Panel/File options to unhide these folders.

Note: You must have admin rights to perform these system specific functions.

Hope that helps.



On 12/15/2019 11:28 PM, Ramesh Patil wrote:

Yes, I am absolutely sure I have installed 32 bit Android studio because my windows is 32bit only.

Another have set the environment variable for java home.
How to check android_home variable question mark

Thank you


On Sun, Dec 15, 2019, 7:41 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hello!  Are you absolutely sure you installed the 32 bit version of Android Studio?  Also, Check your JAVA_HOME and ANDROID_HOME variables.

On 12/15/2019 7:10 PM, Ramesh Patil wrote:



I am using windows 10 32 bit version with JDK 8 installed for 32 bit also I have activated Java access bridge but Android studio is not supporting Nvda screen reader. I vhecked check box of screen reader support under setting of android studio. But still not works.  Please guide me

Regards
Ramesh Patil


Re: Android studio accessibility for windows 32 bit

Ramesh Patil
 

I did all things. But NVDA still not reading anything . As i stated previous JAWS starts support.
What is problem with NVDA.


On Tue, Dec 17, 2019, 3:10 AM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Yes.  Set that as  your Android_home as your system variable.

On 12/16/2019 11:33 PM, Ramesh Patil wrote:

Yes its present their sir.
Should I set that path  asbenvironmental variable for android_home?


On Mon, Dec 16, 2019, 7:57 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

no it is in your c:\user\yourname\Appdata\Local\Android\SDK  Try this and let me know.

On 12/16/2019 10:09 PM, Ramesh Patil wrote:

Thank you sir for your reply.

I have downloaded Android studio from from official website. I have installed it. I have checked folder Android SDK in my program files but there is no search folder present.  The Android folder in program files contain one folder with Android studio and in that there are several folders like bin JRE  lib and others. But there is no any Android SDK folder.  Should I need to download Android SDK separately from website? But I did not find any such link for downloading Android SDK I found only SDK tools for command line on Android official website.

Another thing I would like to tell you that  in Android studio folder there is JRE  folder in that there is a bin folder so I have copied windows access bridge dll file from that folder and pasted to the windows system32 folder after that my jaws become accessible with Android studio but still NVDA  is not responding any thing

I am very new in Android programming so please if you can tell me in detail thank you

Thanks
Ramesh Patil
+91 84 4670 1980.


On Mon, Dec 16, 2019, 3:15 AM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi:

1.  Go to:

Control panel/System/Advanced System Settings/Environment Variables.  You will first land on "User Variables"  Tab until you hear "System Variables.

Now press the arrow key to see if Your ANDROID_Home is listed.

if not you will have to create one yourself:

2.  Still on the "System Variable tab", tab once to new.  you will land on an edit box that will allow you to type in your variable name.

Type ANDROID_HOME.

3.  now tab once more to another Edit box and fill in the full path to the directory name where your Android SDK resides.  If you don't know where it is, tab once more to locate the browse button.  Press space on it and tab to the tree view where you can open it up to look for your Android SDK installation, usually it is in:

c:\users\YourName\Appdata\Local\Android\Sdk.

Note: Some folders are hidden by default.  You have to go to Control Panel/File options to unhide these folders.

Note: You must have admin rights to perform these system specific functions.

Hope that helps.



On 12/15/2019 11:28 PM, Ramesh Patil wrote:

Yes, I am absolutely sure I have installed 32 bit Android studio because my windows is 32bit only.

Another have set the environment variable for java home.
How to check android_home variable question mark

Thank you


On Sun, Dec 15, 2019, 7:41 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hello!  Are you absolutely sure you installed the 32 bit version of Android Studio?  Also, Check your JAVA_HOME and ANDROID_HOME variables.

On 12/15/2019 7:10 PM, Ramesh Patil wrote:



I am using windows 10 32 bit version with JDK 8 installed for 32 bit also I have activated Java access bridge but Android studio is not supporting Nvda screen reader. I vhecked check box of screen reader support under setting of android studio. But still not works.  Please guide me

Regards
Ramesh Patil


Re: Strange symbols on my Braille display

Ibrahim Abedrabbo
 

Sometimes I get these symbols when I use the English braille tables using my braille sense with NVDA. Is there a setting to make the braille display or NVDA ignore these symbols? They occupy many braille cells on the display unnecessarily,on top of being very annoying.

On Dec 16, 2019, at 3:41 PM, Pele West <pele.westlists@...> wrote:

Hi

I believe these braille signs are hexadecimal codes that are displayed if there is no braille equivalent. This probably means that the German Computer Braille table has not been completed.

Pele West






Re: Strange symbols on my Braille display

René Linke <rene.linke@...>
 

Am 16.12.2019 um 21:38 schrieb Pele West:
I believe these braille signs are hexadecimal codes that are displayed if there is no braille equivalent. This probably means that the German Computer Braille table has not been completed.
I agree. The German 8 dots computer braille table needs to be updated for most of those Unicode special characters yet.

René


Re: Strange symbols on my Braille display

Adriani Botez
 

Hey Denis,

 

are you experiencing this also on Firefox? And is this behavior only on Twitter? Or do you see it on every website?

 

Here is some background about the character that you get on your braille display. This is an object replacement character and although seems to be part of the accessibility tree, it should not be exposed to the braille display.

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Accessibility/Architecture

 

Have you enabled any accessibility development features in Chrome which might expose those characters?

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Denis Sariyannis
Gesendet: Montag, 16. Dezember 2019 14:21
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] Strange symbols on my Braille display

 

Hi all,
When I switch to focus mode in Chrome, my Braille display often shows things like '\xfffc'. That also sometimes happens in other situations like on the Windows login screen. Are these symbols the result of ANSI codes not defined in the configured Braille table or where do these come from?

My Braille table is German Computer Braille. I'm using NVDA Version 2019.2.1 on Windows 10.
This problem is reproducible. On the Twitter website I turn on focus mode by pressing NVDA+SPACE. When I navigate through the tweets by pressing J and K my Braille display shows these groups of symbols exclusively. If I want to read information about the tweet I have to scroll left. So it seems the Braille display is at the very end of the line by default which ends with a '\xfffc'.
Do you have any idea what this could be?

Thanks and best regards
Denis

 

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Re: Android studio accessibility for windows 32 bit

Jaffar Sidek
 

Yes.  Set that as  your Android_home as your system variable.

On 12/16/2019 11:33 PM, Ramesh Patil wrote:

Yes its present their sir.
Should I set that path  asbenvironmental variable for android_home?


On Mon, Dec 16, 2019, 7:57 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

no it is in your c:\user\yourname\Appdata\Local\Android\SDK  Try this and let me know.

On 12/16/2019 10:09 PM, Ramesh Patil wrote:

Thank you sir for your reply.

I have downloaded Android studio from from official website. I have installed it. I have checked folder Android SDK in my program files but there is no search folder present.  The Android folder in program files contain one folder with Android studio and in that there are several folders like bin JRE  lib and others. But there is no any Android SDK folder.  Should I need to download Android SDK separately from website? But I did not find any such link for downloading Android SDK I found only SDK tools for command line on Android official website.

Another thing I would like to tell you that  in Android studio folder there is JRE  folder in that there is a bin folder so I have copied windows access bridge dll file from that folder and pasted to the windows system32 folder after that my jaws become accessible with Android studio but still NVDA  is not responding any thing

I am very new in Android programming so please if you can tell me in detail thank you

Thanks
Ramesh Patil
+91 84 4670 1980.


On Mon, Dec 16, 2019, 3:15 AM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hi:

1.  Go to:

Control panel/System/Advanced System Settings/Environment Variables.  You will first land on "User Variables"  Tab until you hear "System Variables.

Now press the arrow key to see if Your ANDROID_Home is listed.

if not you will have to create one yourself:

2.  Still on the "System Variable tab", tab once to new.  you will land on an edit box that will allow you to type in your variable name.

Type ANDROID_HOME.

3.  now tab once more to another Edit box and fill in the full path to the directory name where your Android SDK resides.  If you don't know where it is, tab once more to locate the browse button.  Press space on it and tab to the tree view where you can open it up to look for your Android SDK installation, usually it is in:

c:\users\YourName\Appdata\Local\Android\Sdk.

Note: Some folders are hidden by default.  You have to go to Control Panel/File options to unhide these folders.

Note: You must have admin rights to perform these system specific functions.

Hope that helps.



On 12/15/2019 11:28 PM, Ramesh Patil wrote:

Yes, I am absolutely sure I have installed 32 bit Android studio because my windows is 32bit only.

Another have set the environment variable for java home.
How to check android_home variable question mark

Thank you


On Sun, Dec 15, 2019, 7:41 PM Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:

Hello!  Are you absolutely sure you installed the 32 bit version of Android Studio?  Also, Check your JAVA_HOME and ANDROID_HOME variables.

On 12/15/2019 7:10 PM, Ramesh Patil wrote:



I am using windows 10 32 bit version with JDK 8 installed for 32 bit also I have activated Java access bridge but Android studio is not supporting Nvda screen reader. I vhecked check box of screen reader support under setting of android studio. But still not works.  Please guide me

Regards
Ramesh Patil


Edge doesn't work with NVDA?

Gerardo Corripio
 

Using the latest NVDA, with latest Windows10 (Windows 10Ver1909 (64 bits) build 18363.476), and Microsoft Edge version 79.0.309.51, since this morning,  open Edge, but can’t navigate with the keyboard!;tbab is the only command that works; and when I Alt into the menus,the arrows work perfectly! I can’t even perform the NVDA+space command to hange between Focus and non-focus mode as before! Internet Explorer works beautifully! I don’t know what else to do aside maybe uninstall and reinstall edge? Or maybe uninstall and reinstall NVDA? This is so frustrating! Thanks for any info you guys might have on this.

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 


Re: Strange symbols on my Braille display

Pele West
 

Hi

I believe these braille signs are hexadecimal codes that are displayed if there is no braille equivalent. This probably means that the German Computer Braille table has not been completed.

Pele West


Re: how to get to other email inboxes in Outlook 2016

David Griffith
 

Press Control Y and cursor down to hear all your email folders.
David Griffith

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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] how to get to other email inboxes in Outlook 2016

Hello there


Can someone give me some step by step instructions to get to my different email inboxes. I have two different accounts and the I can't quite figure this out.. Thanks in advance.



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how to get to other email inboxes in Outlook 2016

Scott Berry
 

Hello there


Can someone give me some step by step instructions to get to my different email inboxes.  I have two different accounts and the I can't quite figure this out..  Thanks in advance.



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Associates in Allied health
Patient Advocate