Hi group,

I would like to know, whether is possible set czech language in the Edge
chromium.

I have tried find the setting, but I was unsuccessful.

Do you have an idea, how I could be successful?


--
Jarek

On Jan 21, 2020, at 4:31 PM, Martin McCormick <martin.m@suddenlink.net> wrote:

 I was listening to a demo of some software when someone
needed to upload a file from their computer to an attached radio
and they used alt + p. This gives you two alternatives, r and w
which is easy enough to follow so far except that I get that
unceremonious dumpout you get when you hit the wrong button and
the effect is the same as typing Escape. You just go back to
whatever was going on before typing alt + p.

Thanks.

Martin McCormick

Hi group,

I would like to know, whether is possible set czech language in the Edge chromium.

I have tried find the setting, but I was unsuccessful.

Do you have an idea, how I could be successful?

KeePass makes it extremely easy to synchronize your database between devices. In fact, if I update the database on my local computer, it is automatically updated on my iPhone and iPad. Likewise if I update on the iPhone or iPad, it is also updated on my computer. It is free and very secure.

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 5:13 PM Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@gmail.com <mailto:nimerjaber1@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello,

While it's true that 1password has cloud options, and keypass is
local, 1password makes password syncing between devices much
easier. Moreover, 1password is secured with a key and now also
with 2FA, thus making the likelihood that my password gets
compromised that much more unlikely. In fact, I trust 1password
with its layers of security over just about any other cloud
provider which I might choose to use to store my database and have
it synced. And yes, I could choose to just keep it offline, but
that just isn't convenient. :-D

Tyler's right though, everyone should make those considerations
for themselves about what level of risk they are willing to
tolerate, and how they choose to perceive the risk.

Thanks.

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 2:06 PM Tyler Wood <tcwood12@gmail.com
<mailto:tcwood12@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi,

My go to will always be key pass.

Free, open source, ability to put your database **wherever**
you want, easy to run on any operating system of your choice
and lots of configuration options.

I will never touch 1 password – for one it’s paid – and for 2
having my passwords in the cloud when that cloud could be
breached at any moment much easier than my database on a thumb
drive, and has been before. Why have a password manager at all
in that case?

That is, of course, my opinion, and common sense is still
one’s best friend.

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf
Of *Nimer Jaber
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 15, 2020 3:20 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Accessible password managers, again.

Chrome should work, as should Firefox, but you want a
3rd-party, which is probably smart, give 1password a try.
Also, I played around with bitwarden, and it seemed to work
pretty well also.

Thanks.

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 1:09 PM Hareth <hareth4m@gmail.com
<mailto:hareth4m@gmail.com>> wrote:

I was playing with
bitwarden
on windows10, desktop app an chrome and waterfox / firefox
extensions.
I start liking it
,.
Later tonight, going to try the android app and see what's
going on there.
For sure it worth the try.

On 1/15/20, René Linke <rene.linke@hamburg.de
<mailto:rene.linke@hamburg.de>> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I recommend to use KeePass Safe, it is completely based
on XML
> structures of import/export files.
> It has many extensions, and it works well with NVDA.
>
> René
>
>
>
>
>



--

Best,

Nimer Jaber

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addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its
contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in
civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your
machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for
windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest
technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me
at (970) (393-4481) and I will do my best to respond to you
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you, and have a great day!



--
Best,

Nimer Jaber

The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was
addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient,
please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this
correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents
by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or
criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding
attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is
up to you. Thanks.

Registered Linux User 529141.
http://counter.li.org/

To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP
and above, please click here:
http://www.nvda-project.org

You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news.

To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at
(970) (393-4481) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly.
Thank
you, and have a great day!

how about firefox?

i wish to save my pages as html only in reader mode.

On 1/24/20, ADRIAN POCOCK <ampbeast@...> wrote:

> Try just read or mercury reader.  Just reader when you right click on page

> and save as it allows single html which is read by nvda.

> 

>

> 

> 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

Try just read or mercury reader. Just reader when you right click on page
and save as it allows single html which is read by nvda.

yes, the new edge support all versions of windows since windows seven.

but the old edge was specific for windows ten.

yes, i have xp, but i want to know about new edge too.

On 1/23/20, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

> Well then it may not work for xp.  If you are still using it.  I thought

> edge is only for ten.

> 

> 

> 

> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

> 

> 

> 

> From: zahra

> Sent: January 23, 2020 11:05 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial: Disable UI Automation in the Chromium Edge.

> 

> 

> 

> its not specific for windows ten only.

> 

> new edge support all windows versions since windows seven.

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> On 1/23/20, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

> 

>> If you are continuing xp I don’t think you can try Chromian Edge. Not

>> unless

> 

>> you upgrade to windows ten.  If you end up on windows ten. You wil have

> 

>> yourself a learning curve.  You will get used to it.  Edge and Chrome are

>> a

> 

>> like if you have used firefox.  They are like firefox.  Windows ten takes

> 

>> getting used to.  You can do it.  I’m afraid you can’t test these new

>> things

> 

>> with xp!  If you intend on staying there.  It wont hurt to ask questions

> 

>> I’ll tell you this. Either way you will end up on windows ten sooner or

> 

>> later.

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> From: zahra

> 

>> Sent: January 23, 2020 4:05 AM

> 

>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> 

>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial: Disable UI Automation in the Chromium Edge.

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> hi.

> 

>> 

> 

>> some people mentioned crashing when using nvda with new edge based on

> 

>> chromium.

> 

>> 

> 

>> is it true?

> 

>> 

> 

>> i really wish to become familiar with new edge, and want to ask some

> 

>> questions.

> 

>> 

> 

>> does it support MultiProcess forever?

> 

>> 

> 

>> is there a setting to turn the Multiprocess off?

> 

>> 

> 

>> also, does it have all the settings and options that chrome and chromium

> 

>> have?

> 

>> 

> 

>> does it support flash?

> 

>> 

> 

>> can we uncheck automatic update or not?

> 

>> 

> 

>> i really wish if someone knows answers for my questions, post the answers

> 

>> hear.

> 

>> 

> 

>> God bless you and His especial mercy i pray for you!

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> On 1/15/20, Robert Kingett <kingettr@...> wrote:

> 

>> 

> 

>>> Joseph posted this previously, but I am busy [giving fiction to my

>>> patreon

> 

>> 

> 

>>> supporters](http://www.patreon.com/blindwriter) so can't pull up his link

> 

>> 

> 

>>> right now.

> 

>> 

> 

>>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>>> NVDA 2019.2 won't work with Edge without turning off UIA. The more tech

> 

>> 

> 

>>> savvy people on this list can tell you if NVDA 2019.3 will work with it

>>> on

> 

>> 

> 

>>> or not. For now, I've turned my UIA in Edge back on. Below though, is

> 

>>> steps

> 

>> 

> 

>>> on how to turn it off.

> 

>> 

> 

>>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>>> In the address bar, type,

> 

>> 

> 

>>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>>> edge://flags

> 

>> 

> 

>>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>>> Tab to search experimentation's.

> 

>> 

> 

>>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>>> Type,

> 

>> 

> 

>>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>>> UI Automation.

> 

>> 

> 

>>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>>> Hit tab until you get to a combo box.

> 

>> 

> 

>>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>>> enable it or disable it.

> 

>> 

> 

>>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>>> Happy Browsing! In the meantime, I'm creating disability fiction. [Pledge

> 

>>> to

> 

>> 

> 

>>> see early drafts and more.](http://www.patreon.com/blindwriter)

> 

>> 

> 

>>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> --

> 

>> 

> 

>> By God,

> 

>> 

> 

>> were I given all the seven heavens

> 

>> 

> 

>> with all they contain

> 

>> 

> 

>> in order that

> 

>> 

> 

>> I may disobey God

> 

>> 

> 

>> by depriving an ant

> 

>> 

> 

>> from the husk of a grain of barley,

> 

>> 

> 

>> I would not do it.

> 

>> 

> 

>> imam ali

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> --

> 

> By God,

> 

> were I given all the seven heavens

> 

> with all they contain

> 

> in order that

> 

> I may disobey God

> 

> by depriving an ant

> 

> from the husk of a grain of barley,

> 

> I would not do it.

> 

> imam ali

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

>

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

hi quentin.
i could not access my system for one week, so pardon my late reply.
about renaming the version number of nvda, could you please rename it 2020.1?
since 2020 started and even january is near ending!
if possible, i wish that you rename it to 2020.1.
God bless you and His infinite mercy i pray for you!
On 1/16/20, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:

Hi everyone,

The first In-Process for the year is here!

Featuring news on NVDA 2019.3 beta2, who should update and lots more, get
it first here: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-16th-january/

Quentin.
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Web: www.nvaccess.org
Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>;

And I wrote an addon for it, see here:
https://github.com/Novalis7747/totalcmd-enhanced/raw/master/totalcmd-0.6.3.nvda-addon

cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Donnerstag, 23. Januar 2020 18:31
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda and Total Commander

Oh... One more note: you can access ftp's with it, and it works great for that porpose.





On 23/01/2020 12:20, john s wrote:

Ollie, what does this program do and how much does it cost?

At 05:23 AM 1/23/2020, Mallard, wrote:

Hello Quentin,


There are other issues, especially in the forms to set up ftp
connections, but those can't be solved, apparently.


Ciao,

Ollie




On 22/01/2020 23:03, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Jarek,

I'm not familiar with the program, but if NVDA is working everywhere
except for announcing these two buttons, it sounds like the
developers of Total Commander has simply forgotten to label them.Â
The easiest solution is to contact the developer of Total Commander
and let them know and request they please label those two buttons.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 10:20 PM Jarek.Krcmar <Jarek.Krcmar@email.cz
<mailto:Jarek.Krcmar@email.cz>> wrote:

Hello all,

After starting Total Commander I select the mass re-naming in Total
Commander, Nvda is mute by two buttons.

I would like to know, what can I do for Nvda should be speaking.

Nvda speaks everywhere, but by a two buttons it is mute.


-- Jarek






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Web: www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>;
Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>;

John

Well then it may not work for xp.  If you are still using it.  I thought
edge is only for ten.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: zahra
Sent: January 23, 2020 11:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial: Disable UI Automation in the Chromium Edge.



its not specific for windows ten only.

new edge support all windows versions since windows seven.





On 1/23/20, Arlene <nedster66@gmail.com> wrote:

If you are continuing xp I don’t think you can try Chromian Edge. Not
unless

you upgrade to windows ten.  If you end up on windows ten. You wil have

yourself a learning curve.  You will get used to it.  Edge and Chrome are
a

like if you have used firefox.  They are like firefox.  Windows ten takes

getting used to.  You can do it.  I’m afraid you can’t test these new
things

with xp!  If you intend on staying there.  It wont hurt to ask questions

I’ll tell you this. Either way you will end up on windows ten sooner or

later.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: zahra

Sent: January 23, 2020 4:05 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial: Disable UI Automation in the Chromium Edge.

hi.

some people mentioned crashing when using nvda with new edge based on

chromium.

is it true?

i really wish to become familiar with new edge, and want to ask some

questions.

does it support MultiProcess forever?

is there a setting to turn the Multiprocess off?

also, does it have all the settings and options that chrome and chromium

have?

does it support flash?

can we uncheck automatic update or not?

i really wish if someone knows answers for my questions, post the answers

hear.

God bless you and His especial mercy i pray for you!

On 1/15/20, Robert Kingett <kingettr@gmail.com> wrote:

Joseph posted this previously, but I am busy [giving fiction to my
patreon

supporters](http://www.patreon.com/blindwriter) so can't pull up his link

right now.

NVDA 2019.2 won't work with Edge without turning off UIA. The more tech

savvy people on this list can tell you if NVDA 2019.3 will work with it
on

or not. For now, I've turned my UIA in Edge back on. Below though, is

steps

on how to turn it off.

In the address bar, type,

edge://flags

Tab to search experimentation's.

Type,

UI Automation.

Hit tab until you get to a combo box.

enable it or disable it.

Happy Browsing! In the meantime, I'm creating disability fiction. [Pledge

to

see early drafts and more.](http://www.patreon.com/blindwriter)

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

its not specific for windows ten only.

new edge support all windows versions since windows seven.

On 1/23/20, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:

> If you are continuing xp I don’t think you can try Chromian Edge. Not unless

> you upgrade to windows ten.  If you end up on windows ten. You wil have

> yourself a learning curve.  You will get used to it.  Edge and Chrome are a

> like if you have used firefox.  They are like firefox.  Windows ten takes

> getting used to.  You can do it.  I’m afraid you can’t test these new things

> with xp!  If you intend on staying there.  It wont hurt to ask questions

> I’ll tell you this. Either way you will end up on windows ten sooner or

> later.

> 

> 

> 

> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

> 

> 

> 

> From: zahra

> Sent: January 23, 2020 4:05 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial: Disable UI Automation in the Chromium Edge.

> 

> 

> 

> hi.

> 

> some people mentioned crashing when using nvda with new edge based on

> chromium.

> 

> is it true?

> 

> i really wish to become familiar with new edge, and want to ask some

> questions.

> 

> does it support MultiProcess forever?

> 

> is there a setting to turn the Multiprocess off?

> 

> also, does it have all the settings and options that chrome and chromium

> have?

> 

> does it support flash?

> 

> can we uncheck automatic update or not?

> 

> i really wish if someone knows answers for my questions, post the answers

> hear.

> 

> God bless you and His especial mercy i pray for you!

> 

> 

> 

> On 1/15/20, Robert Kingett <kingettr@...> wrote:

> 

>> Joseph posted this previously, but I am busy [giving fiction to my patreon

> 

>> supporters](http://www.patreon.com/blindwriter) so can't pull up his link

> 

>> right now.

> 

>> 

> 

>> NVDA 2019.2 won't work with Edge without turning off UIA. The more tech

> 

>> savvy people on this list can tell you if NVDA 2019.3 will work with it on

> 

>> or not. For now, I've turned my UIA in Edge back on. Below though, is

>> steps

> 

>> on how to turn it off.

> 

>> 

> 

>> In the address bar, type,

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> edge://flags

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> Tab to search experimentation's.

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> Type,

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> UI Automation.

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> Hit tab until you get to a combo box.

> 

>> 

> 

>> enable it or disable it.

> 

>> 

> 

>> Happy Browsing! In the meantime, I'm creating disability fiction. [Pledge

>> to

> 

>> see early drafts and more.](http://www.patreon.com/blindwriter)

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

>> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> --

> 

> By God,

> 

> were I given all the seven heavens

> 

> with all they contain

> 

> in order that

> 

> I may disobey God

> 

> by depriving an ant

> 

> from the husk of a grain of barley,

> 

> I would not do it.

> 

> imam ali

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

> 

>

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

what is the last version of chrome which supports reader mode?
On 1/17/20, Geoff Connor <gjconnor@shaw.ca> wrote:

Unfortunately, as far as I know, Chrome removed that feature. I'm
disappointed about that. It really worked well. I hope they eventually put
it back.

Ollie, what does this program do and how much does it cost?

At 05:23 AM 1/23/2020, Mallard, wrote:

Hello Quentin,


There are other issues, especially in the forms to set up ftp
connections, but those can't be solved, apparently.


Ciao,

Ollie




On 22/01/2020 23:03, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Jarek,

I'm not familiar with the program, but if NVDA is working everywhere
except for announcing these two buttons, it sounds like the
developers of Total Commander has simply forgotten to label them.Â
The easiest solution is to contact the developer of Total Commander
and let them know and request they please label those two buttons.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Jan 22, 2020 at 10:20 PM Jarek.Krcmar <Jarek.Krcmar@email.cz
<mailto:Jarek.Krcmar@email.cz>> wrote:

Hello all,

After starting Total Commander I select the mass re-naming in Total
Commander, Nvda is mute by two buttons.

I would like to know, what can I do for Nvda should be speaking.

Nvda speaks everywhere, but by a two buttons it is mute.


-- Jarek






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Web: www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>;
Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>;

John

If you are continuing xp I don’t think you can try Chromian Edge. Not unless
you upgrade to windows ten. If you end up on windows ten. You wil have
yourself a learning curve. You will get used to it. Edge and Chrome are a
like if you have used firefox. They are like firefox. Windows ten takes
getting used to. You can do it. I’m afraid you can’t test these new things
with xp! If you intend on staying there. It wont hurt to ask questions
I’ll tell you this. Either way you will end up on windows ten sooner or
later.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: zahra
Sent: January 23, 2020 4:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Tutorial: Disable UI Automation in the Chromium Edge.



hi.

some people mentioned crashing when using nvda with new edge based on
chromium.

is it true?

i really wish to become familiar with new edge, and want to ask some
questions.

does it support MultiProcess forever?

is there a setting to turn the Multiprocess off?

also, does it have all the settings and options that chrome and chromium
have?

does it support flash?

can we uncheck automatic update or not?

i really wish if someone knows answers for my questions, post the answers
hear.

God bless you and His especial mercy i pray for you!



On 1/15/20, Robert Kingett <kingettr@gmail.com> wrote:

Joseph posted this previously, but I am busy [giving fiction to my patreon

supporters](http://www.patreon.com/blindwriter) so can't pull up his link

right now.

NVDA 2019.2 won't work with Edge without turning off UIA. The more tech

savvy people on this list can tell you if NVDA 2019.3 will work with it on

or not. For now, I've turned my UIA in Edge back on. Below though, is
steps

on how to turn it off.

In the address bar, type,

edge://flags

Tab to search experimentation's.

Type,

UI Automation.

Hit tab until you get to a combo box.

enable it or disable it.

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By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

A single keystroke invocation is pretty nice. With firefox, I just press the f9 key and the page reloads in reader mode. It is a useful feature, up to a point.

I use one in the Brave  Browser called Reader View which is presumably identical in Chrome as they use the same engine.

When a page loads in which you want to invoke the reader view bring up the context menu and Reader View options will probably be there.

It may be that the context menu includes an option to show in Reader View or alternatively open link in Reader View – options seem to vary depending on the actual page and where you are focussed when the page opens. Anyway you get used to things working in certain ways on certain sites. I have learnt on some sites for example simply pressing application followed  by S will invoke the Show in Reader View command, but this does not always work.

I contacted the developers to request for a designated Reader View keystroke shortcut but they did not respond. They probably did not really understand the issue for those of us using screenreaders.

David Griffith

what is the last version of chrome which supports reader mode?

On 1/17/20, Geoff Connor <gjconnor@...> wrote:
> Unfortunately, as far as I know, Chrome removed that feature. I'm
> disappointed about that. It really worked well. I hope they eventually put
> it back.
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--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali