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Re: can't play an internet station using waterfox
Oriana
Gene, When you attempt to use the .wax file in VLC, it attempts to resolve to the stream url i posted with the character %20 appended to the end. (I don't know that the error displaying this attempt is displayed accessibly, however, which is likely why the end user was unable to troubleshoot.) %20 is url encoding for space, which is not usually appended to the end of urls. To test my theory that the stream url would work without the space, i downloaded the .wax file, which turned out to be a ".pls by any other name", removed the space in my text editing app Quoda, and opened it as a playlist in VLC... and that solved the problem as i expected. I am not familiar with .wax filetype, but it seems it encodes trailing spaces as being part of the url and thus, it was a typo. The "AAC" playlist file is also VLC compatible, at least on my version of VLC, which means the trailing space is not encoded, if it's present, and it's very likely the "Android" playlist file also ignores spaces, playing as designed in my browser. I suspect the same trailing space issue is present in the fourth playlist file, or possibly, given the error code i received, that the url is missing entirely. (After seeing how many other typos and broken tags are in the HTML for the website, the file could contain the entirety of War And Peace without surprising me.) Note: by ".pls by any other name" what i mean is, most online streaming playlists are nothing more than some kind of text file that includes nothing but one or more actual stream url. This is handy for making shortcuts to the radio station, simply download the file and rename it to the radio station, and run it every time you want to listen - your media player (such as VLC, which is free, low-memory, and handles nearly every filetype you can throw at it) will load the stream url automatically. However, I don't understand why there are so many different "filetypes" for the same, standard behavior... all they are is a text document containing a url!
On Sun, Jan 26, 2020, 3:17 AM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
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Re: Using Open audible
Oh yikes! So sorry about the lack of international support! Contact them directly about that. I'm just their accessibility guy. Note that they are nowhere near as large as Amazon, but they aim to make this better but keep books DRM free. See contact info below. Our team is small (but mighty!), so email is the best way to ensure our customers get a quick response. If you’d like to talk to one of our team members on the phone, simply email hello@... with your name, phone number, and the best time to reach you, and we will call you as soon as possible.
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Re: Web Capture
Gene
The only one is for older versions of
Firefox. You can download it and see instructions for installing it on
this page:
https://www.blindbargains.com/bargains.php?m=15142 As far as Firefox goes, if you use an old version
of Firefox portable, you can continue to use your current version of Firefox for
general browsing and use Firefox portable for sites you want to solve captchas
with. I know the last version you can use with Webvisum is Firefox
52ESR. You can download the portable version here:
https://portableapps.com/downloading/?a=FirefoxPortableLegacy52&n=Mozilla%20Firefox,%20Portable%20Edition%20Legacy%20%2052&s=s&p=&d=pa&f=FirefoxPortableLegacy52_52.9.0_English.paf.exe Run the installer. It is a portable version
so it won't put anything on your machine but the program. Open the folder
where the program is, and find the exe file. Press enter and the program
will run. Make a shortcut on the desktop and assign a shortcut key for
convenient running.
Probably just typing f once in the folder will take you to the exe file. Before you use Webvisum, you will have to set up an
account on the Webvisum site:
https://www.webvisum.com/ At some point, you will have to ask on list for an
invitation. The site isn't monitored by the developer any longer and you
can't get an invitation there.
Gene
From: Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 5:20 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Web Capture On 1/26/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: > CAPTCHA Be Gone is no longer available. Webvisum works with old versions of > Firefox, if you want to try it. I can provide more information if you are > interested. I don't know if it will work with the captchas you want to > solve. And the name is c a p t c h a, not capture. > > Gene > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo > Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 4:42 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] Web Capture > > > captcha begone nvdaNVDA. style or a addOn my viewpoint Please tell > NVDA addon maniger josofe leee > > On 1/26/20, Stephen <whocrazy@...> wrote: >> I've encountered something like this on the steam platform. It's >> horrible. >> At 04:32 PM 1/26/2020, you wrote: >>>Something that is NVDA friendly and will read those pesky things >>>which you are expected to enter as a response on a webpage to prove >>>you are a genuine person and not some form of robot. >>>There was once something called Rumola or some such. >>>One of the major probs is that the capture graphic or whatever it is >>>only inhabits the screen for a short time. >>>Any ideas? >>>Andrea >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > >
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Re: Using Open audible
David Griffith
From other lists I know that there are lots of visually impaired people using Open Audible.
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The issue is that the setup screens are reportedly inaccessible but if you get sighted help beyond this it is apparently completely accessible. One person posted the key sequences you need to press to ensure setup through the inaccessible setup screens but I am not sure I saved this. I will have a look and post if I find the instructions. David Griffith.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Val Temp Sent: 26 January 2020 08:23 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Open audible Thanks. When I tried it with Jaws, I kind of wondered. On 26/01/2020 08:21, Felix G. wrote: Hi,
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Re: Using Open audible
David Griffith
I looked at this and unfortunately it is only available in the USA as a membership so not really an option for those of us in the UK and elsewhere. David Griffith
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Kingett
No, I've never used Open Audible. but, a bit of a shameless plug, Libro.FM allows you to buy DRM free, downloadable audiobooks, and gives you the option to support your local independent bookstore if desired. The team listened very closely to my feedback with NVDA and on mobile apps. I did the best I could without having an Android device, but they just released an IOS update that addresses a ton of VoiceOver navigational quirks. I consulted using NVDA but the site should work with JAWS. They loved my feedback so much they said, explicitly, they will hire me again when they have the budget to pay me again and to do a big batch of accessibility work, which is certainly on the roadmap. Gotta say, they payed me on time, and payed me via direct deposit, which was nice. They really want to adopt a culture of accessibility, even if it takes time to do so. My affiliate link is below. If you don't want a membership, buy any audiobook without the membership and the affiliate link will still work. Affiliate link for monthly membership.
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Re: Web Capture
Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo
I need a n v d a. addon for captcha
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On 1/26/20, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
CAPTCHA Be Gone is no longer available. Webvisum works with old versions of
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Re: Web Capture
Gene
CAPTCHA Be Gone is no longer available.
Webvisum works with old versions of Firefox, if you want to try it. I can
provide more information if you are interested. I don't know if it will
work with the captchas you want to solve. And the name is c a p t c h a,
not capture.
Gene
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From: Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 4:42 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Web Capture NVDA addon maniger josofe leee On 1/26/20, Stephen <whocrazy@...> wrote: > I've encountered something like this on the steam platform. It's horrible. > At 04:32 PM 1/26/2020, you wrote: >>Something that is NVDA friendly and will read those pesky things >>which you are expected to enter as a response on a webpage to prove >>you are a genuine person and not some form of robot. >>There was once something called Rumola or some such. >>One of the major probs is that the capture graphic or whatever it is >>only inhabits the screen for a short time. >>Any ideas? >>Andrea >> >> > > > > >
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Re: Using Open audible
No, I've never used Open Audible. but, a bit of a shameless plug, Libro.FM allows you to buy DRM free, downloadable audiobooks, and gives you the option to support your local independent bookstore if desired. The team listened very closely to my feedback with NVDA and on mobile apps. I did the best I could without having an Android device, but they just released an IOS update that addresses a ton of VoiceOver navigational quirks. I consulted using NVDA but the site should work with JAWS. They loved my feedback so much they said, explicitly, they will hire me again when they have the budget to pay me again and to do a big batch of accessibility work, which is certainly on the roadmap. Gotta say, they payed me on time, and payed me via direct deposit, which was nice. They really want to adopt a culture of accessibility, even if it takes time to do so. My affiliate link is below. If you don't want a membership, buy any audiobook without the membership and the affiliate link will still work.
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Re: Web Capture
Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo
captcha begone nvdaNVDA. style or a addOn my viewpoint Please tell
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NVDA addon maniger josofe leee
On 1/26/20, Stephen <whocrazy@internode.on.net> wrote:
I've encountered something like this on the steam platform. It's horrible.
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Re: Using Open audible
Val Temp <val.paul2005@...>
Thanks.
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When I tried it with Jaws, I kind of wondered.
On 26/01/2020 08:21, Felix G. wrote:
Hi,
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Re: Using Open audible
Felix G.
Hi,
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did a bit of research since the name of the program sounded interesting. Looks shady to me though, so even if it were accessible I'd be reluctant to use it. Best, Felix Am So., 26. Jan. 2020 um 09:06 Uhr schrieb Val Temp <val.paul2005@gmail.com>:
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Re: can't play an internet station using waterfox
Gene
I should also say that trying another browser is
still a good idea, but not believing the site and trying the link I discussed is
the first thing to do. it is the easiest, and it may solve the problem, as
in this case.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2020 1:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't play an internet station using
waterfox I'm going into detail of how you may approach a
problem like this so you may have a better understanding of what to do in future
when you encounter such a problem. Those who are not interested may want
to skip this message. Those interested may find it useful in
future.
I see no error in the Windows Mediaplayer
link. I pasted it to the clippboard using the copy address submenu
function in Chrome and got the following:
There are many listen links but, except for the Android
devices link, However, they appear to be somehow coded incorrectly. They
cause Chrome to display a save as dialog, at least on my machine. Others
may report what they do on theirs. I doubt using another browser would
solve the problem, though that is generally one of the first gthings I do in
such a case. But, based on the behavior here, I doubt it will help, though
I'm not sure. Given the odd behavior, the
thing to do is the following:
Never believe a site in such a
case. Site developers may not know what they are doing and they may
mislabel links in terms of describing what they do. Try the android
devices link. I pressed enter on it and the stream played in my
browser. In short, the Android devices link is properly configured and
will play in a Windows browser. It may play using android devices as well
but, the person who labeled the link as to its purpose didn't know what the link
would do and mislabeled the only one that works.
Gene
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From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2020 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't play an internet station using
waterfox
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
There appear to be a number of URLs that get you to this
station. Could you please share the address you're using? Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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Using Open audible
Val Temp <val.paul2005@...>
Hi!
I received an email from a friend telling me to try open audible, but as this friend has some sight, I have no idea if this is accessible with NVDA. I have tried to use this program with jaws, but to no avail. Can someone tell me if this is accessible with NVDA and how to use it? Val.
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Re: can't play an internet station using waterfox
Gene
I'm going into detail of how you may approach a
problem like this so you may have a better understanding of what to do in future
when you encounter such a problem. Those who are not interested may want
to skip this message. Those interested may find it useful in
future.
I see no error in the Windows Mediaplayer
link. I pasted it to the clippboard using the copy address submenu
function in Chrome and got the following:
There are many listen links but, except for the Android
devices link, However, they appear to be somehow coded incorrectly. They
cause Chrome to display a save as dialog, at least on my machine. Others
may report what they do on theirs. I doubt using another browser would
solve the problem, though that is generally one of the first gthings I do in
such a case. But, based on the behavior here, I doubt it will help, though
I'm not sure. Given the odd behavior, the
thing to do is the following:
Never believe a site in such a
case. Site developers may not know what they are doing and they may
mislabel links in terms of describing what they do. Try the android
devices link. I pressed enter on it and the stream played in my
browser. In short, the Android devices link is properly configured and
will play in a Windows browser. It may play using android devices as well
but, the person who labeled the link as to its purpose didn't know what the link
would do and mislabeled the only one that works.
Gene
----- Original Message
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From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2020 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't play an internet station using
waterfox
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
There appear to be a number of URLs that get you to this
station. Could you please share the address you're using? Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it. ~ Madonna
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Re: can't play an internet station using waterfox
Gene
Did you try another browser? Sometimes, you
just have to use something else for a reason you may never know. No one
program may meet every need in a certain category of use.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2020 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] can't play an internet station using
waterfox I don't have an android device.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Oriana
That being said, the stream for Android works for my Android device.
On Sat, Jan 25, 2020, 11:27 PM Oriana Neulinger <o.neulinger@...> wrote:
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Re: Web Capture
Stephen
I've encountered something like this on the steam platform. It's horrible.
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At 04:32 PM 1/26/2020, you wrote:
Something that is NVDA friendly and will read those pesky things which you are expected to enter as a response on a webpage to prove you are a genuine person and not some form of robot.
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Web Capture
Andrea Sherry
Something that is NVDA friendly and will read those pesky things which you are expected to enter as a response on a webpage to prove you are a genuine person and not some form of robot.
There was once something called Rumola or some such. One of the major probs is that the capture graphic or whatever it is only inhabits the screen for a short time. Any ideas? Andrea
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Re: can't play an internet station using waterfox
Rosemarie Chavarria
Yes, I was able to get the tune-in link to work. I'm gonna try listening to it on my google home device.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Oriana
The entire site's code is lousy with typos and broken tags. They need to hire a web designer, or at least take some html5 classes. If anyone knows the people who work there, please let them know I'd be willing to volunteer a quick typo-fix just to get the site... not broken.
Aside from that, were you able to get the direct Tune-In stream link to work? I believe Tune-In offers more streaming options, so if you need a different link I might be able to help.
On Sat, Jan 25, 2020, 11:46 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
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Re: can't play an internet station using waterfox
Oriana
The entire site's code is lousy with typos and broken tags. They need to hire a web designer, or at least take some html5 classes. If anyone knows the people who work there, please let them know I'd be willing to volunteer a quick typo-fix just to get the site... not broken. Aside from that, were you able to get the direct Tune-In stream link to work? I believe Tune-In offers more streaming options, so if you need a different link I might be able to help.
On Sat, Jan 25, 2020, 11:46 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
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Re: can't play an internet station using waterfox
Rosemarie Chavarria
I hope they fix it. I don't have this problem with other sites.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Oriana
I've been doing some more testing and it seems like the .aac (iphone) and .stream (Android) links are correct, but the windows media player link has a typo: a space has been entered after the link in the .wax file. Copy and paste the following link into windows media player, or use one of the first two options in VLC.
On Sat, Jan 25, 2020, 11:31 PM Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
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