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Re: accessing embedded video links in Power point slides

Payal Kapoor
 

thanks for the inputs Quentin. for now i'll simply have to make do
with whatever is available-juggle around a bit; figure out the best
way to get it going. ultimately though, i'll look at creating my own
presentation in Powerr Point with the same content and videos. since
it is my first time using all this overload of information, it's
rather overwhelming.
i've been given various workarounds by other friends using PPT with
media info. maybe i will try and work with those as well.
Best,
Payal

On 12/3/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Hi Payal,

There are several different ways of inserting videos. Depending on how it
was inserted, PowerPoint treats it differently when running the
presentation. To be honest, from what you've described I'm not exactly
sure how they created it. If you can get it to work though, that's good :)

Linking to other powerpoint files from within one file is not something I
would generally try to do. If it works, I guess that's one way of doing
things, but it seems messy.

Copying things out of PowerPoint can be done in a couple of ways depending
on what you need.

If you go to Outline view (alt+w, p, o) you can select all (control+a) then
copy (control+c), move to Word and paste it (control+v). It won't
necessarily paste everything, but in general, it should copy most titles,
and possibly some content (again, PowerPoint is not very consistent, and it
depends on the content).

You could also move to the top of your presentation, and on the first
slide, select all, copy and paste into Word, come back, press page down,
repeat. Graphics don't always copy nicely, but text is often ok.

If what you really want is a set of notes to work off when presenting, you
can use F6 to jump between sections until you get to the notes section,
type what you want for each slide, and then when you run the slideshow,
press CONTROL+SHIFT+S to toggle between NVDA reading the slide content, and
the speaker notes.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 10:15 PM Payal Kapoor <payal69@...> wrote:

hi Quentin,
here is my response to the questions you've asked. thought i'd break
them up into two parts.
Q: When you say link to a video, do you mean a text URL or link on the
slide, or do you mean an embedded video? When you activate a link it
will open your browser to the specified URL. An embedded video has a
preview of the video (a still image, similar to that shown on
thumbnails in Youtube etc) with a triangle play button), when you
activate it, the video plays there in the slideshow without opening
another program.
P: There is no real text link, only some image and text saying video.
when coppied on to a word doc, it says hyperlink, but, no real URL. i
am not sure what that would be ccalled. it is however, not an external
source, but links to a folder that has all the relevant videos. i was
told it links there and plays.
essentially, it is an entire presentation made by sighted folk at my
work place that is used for training. i am the first blind person
attempting to use it. it contains two different PPTs for two different
programmes we run. also, it has other training material we access from
within the whole thing.
Q: Activating links is a bit problematic and sounds like what you are
encountering. To activate a link on a slide, press TAB to move to it
- NVDA reports nothing - and then press ENTER. Out of curiosity,
since you mentioned trying it with Jaws, did you have trouble with
Jaws as well? (That would help narrow down the issue - if it works
fine with Jaws, it could be NVDA not responding correctly to the link
- if it doesn't work any better with Jaws then it's more likely to be
PowerPoint not exposing it correctly).
P: I think what you have said about the problem with accessing links
is exactly what i'm having trouble with. however, i noticed that when
the PPT is in slide mode, where more specifically, i activate the edit
mode by pressing enter when in the specific slide, the link appears
alongside the video. arrow down to it, choosing the open hyperlink
option in the applications menu, voila! the video began playing.
i was told that this option cannot be used when making a presentation,
since it is not visually appealing or as good as it is in the
presentation mode.
the presentation mode won't show me a link,and when pressing enter
there brings a prompt saying-no pointer available; choose a pointer.
back to the application menu, but this time, all the pointer options
do nothing.
JAWS did nothing different either. in fact, NVDA allowed me to see the
link; JAWS didn't. that might also be due to the old version of JAWS i
have installed on my laptop.
also, could you tell me how can i copy the contents of the slides, so
i have it in a word doc to refer as notes rather than opepning the PPT
eacj time? i did try the universal copy paste command, but strangely
nothing showed up.
this is definitely a deterrent in being able to run presentations
visually for sighted folk when training. i hope we find a resolution
to it soon enough.
thanks for the help.
Best,
Payal


On 12/2/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
When you say link to a video, do you mean a text URL or link on the
slide,
or do you mean an embedded video? When you activate a link it will
open
your browser to the specified URL. An embedded video has a preview of
the
video (a still image, similar to that shown on thumbnails in Youtube
etc)
with a triangle play button), when you activate it, the video plays
there
in the slideshow without opening another program.

While running the slideshow, activating embedded videos should work ok.
Activating links is a bit problematic and sounds like what you are
encountering. To activate a link on a slide, press TAB to move to it -
NVDA reports nothing - and then press ENTER. Out of curiosity, since
you
mentioned trying it with Jaws, did you have trouble with Jaws as well?
(That would help narrow down the issue - if it works fine with Jaws, it
could be NVDA not responding correctly to the link - if it doesn't work
any
better with Jaws then it's more likely to be PowerPoint not exposing it
correctly).

Re obscured, that is usually reported at design time (ie when you open
the
file in PowerPoint but haven't pressed F5 to run the slideshow). and
means
that one placeholder is covering another on the slide. It may not mean
the
contents of each aren't visible - if you have a one line title, but
expand
the size of the placeholder to cover the whole slide, it won't actually
hide any other content but it will announce that it is covering it (and
that the other content is obscured). Overlapping placeholders can also
be
used for visual effect, although in general, when creating, it is
safest
to
try to avoid overlapping unless you are sure of what you are doing.

If you want to activate a link within a placeholder at design time, you
can
move to it, then open the context menu and select "Open link".

We do have an issue for the problem with links while running slideshows
here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7288 Feel free to add
any
extra comments on that (if you do, the issue is still present in the
latest
alpha).

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 2:02 AM Payal Kapoor <payal69@...> wrote:

hi,
i am working with a PPT with several slides which have not only
graphics as part of the content of a slide, but also links to videos.
however, i am unable to access the links(which don't show up as a link
there) .
i have tried everything but have had no success. when checking using
insert+F1, the message very clearly said there were hyperlinks as part
of the content.
to test that theory, i did copy the content of the slide to a word doc
and it shows a link as well.
i am using the latest version of NVDA and have tried it with one of
the earlier versions of JAWS 18 installed on my Windows 10 laptop.
the office version is 2016.
the message when focusing on the video in the slide is: video
obscured. also, i saw a message about access to the links being
blocked. now i don't know which key combination brought that one on.
after all that mishmash of information, i would be eternally grateful
to anyone who can help me get to the video links.
it is critical, since those are part of the training content for work
i
do.
thanks for any possible help.
Best,



--
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Training and Support Manager

Web: www.nvaccess.org
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Training and Support Manager

Web: www.nvaccess.org
Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>




Re: accessing embedded video links in Power point slides

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Payal,

There are several different ways of inserting videos.  Depending on how it was inserted, PowerPoint treats it differently when running the presentation.  To be honest, from what you've described I'm not exactly sure how they created it.  If you can get it to work though, that's good :)

Linking to other powerpoint files from within one file is not something I would generally try to do.  If it works, I guess that's one way of doing things, but it seems messy.

Copying things out of PowerPoint can be done in a couple of ways depending on what you need.

If you go to Outline view (alt+w, p, o) you can select all (control+a) then copy (control+c), move to Word and paste it (control+v).  It won't necessarily paste everything, but in general, it should copy most titles, and possibly some content (again, PowerPoint is not very consistent, and it depends on the content).

You could also move to the top of your presentation, and on the first slide, select all, copy and paste into Word, come back, press page down, repeat.  Graphics don't always copy nicely, but text is often ok.

If what you really want is a set of notes to work off when presenting, you can use F6 to jump between sections until you get to the notes section, type what you want for each slide, and then when you run the slideshow, press CONTROL+SHIFT+S to toggle between NVDA reading the slide content, and the speaker notes.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 10:15 PM Payal Kapoor <payal69@...> wrote:
hi Quentin,
here is my response to the questions you've asked. thought i'd break
them up into two parts.
Q: When you say link to a video, do you mean a text URL or link on the
slide, or do you mean an embedded video?  When you activate a link it
will open your browser to the specified URL.  An embedded video has a
preview of the video (a still image, similar to that shown on
thumbnails in Youtube etc) with a triangle play button), when you
activate it, the video plays there in the slideshow without opening
another program.
P: There is no real text link, only some image and text saying video.
when coppied on to a word doc, it says hyperlink, but, no real URL. i
am not sure what that would be ccalled. it is however, not an external
source, but links to a folder that has all the relevant videos. i was
told it links there and plays.
essentially, it is an entire presentation made by sighted folk at my
work place that is used for training. i am the first blind person
attempting to use it. it contains two different PPTs for two different
programmes we run. also, it has other training material we access from
within the whole thing.
Q: Activating links is a bit problematic and sounds like what you are
encountering.  To activate a link on a slide, press TAB to move to it
- NVDA reports nothing - and then press ENTER.  Out of curiosity,
since you mentioned trying it with Jaws, did you have trouble with
Jaws as well?  (That would help narrow down the issue - if it works
fine with Jaws, it could be NVDA not responding correctly to the link
- if it doesn't work any better with Jaws then it's more likely to be
PowerPoint not exposing it correctly).
P: I think what you have said about the problem with accessing links
is exactly what i'm having trouble with. however, i noticed that when
the PPT is in slide mode, where more specifically, i activate the edit
mode by pressing enter when in the specific slide, the link appears
alongside the video. arrow down to it, choosing the open hyperlink
option in the applications menu, voila! the video began playing.
i was told that this option cannot be used when making a presentation,
since it is not visually appealing or as good as it is in the
presentation mode.
the presentation mode won't show me a link,and when pressing enter
there brings a prompt saying-no pointer available; choose a pointer.
back to the application menu, but this time, all the pointer options
do nothing.
JAWS did nothing different either. in fact, NVDA allowed me to see the
link; JAWS didn't. that might also be due to the old version of JAWS i
have installed on my laptop.
also, could you tell me how can i copy the contents of the slides, so
i have it in a word doc to refer as notes rather than opepning the PPT
eacj time? i did try the universal copy paste command, but strangely
nothing showed up.
this  is definitely a deterrent in being able to run presentations
visually for sighted folk when training. i hope we find a resolution
to it soon enough.
thanks for the help.
Best,
Payal


On 12/2/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
> When you say link to a video, do you mean a text URL or link on the slide,
> or do you mean an embedded video?  When you activate a link it will open
> your browser to the specified URL.  An embedded video has a preview of the
> video (a still image, similar to that shown on thumbnails in Youtube etc)
> with a triangle play button), when you activate it, the video plays there
> in the slideshow without opening another program.
>
> While running the slideshow, activating embedded videos should work ok.
> Activating links is a bit problematic and sounds like what you are
> encountering.  To activate a link on a slide, press TAB to move to it -
> NVDA reports nothing - and then press ENTER.  Out of curiosity, since you
> mentioned trying it with Jaws, did you have trouble with Jaws as well?
> (That would help narrow down the issue - if it works fine with Jaws, it
> could be NVDA not responding correctly to the link - if it doesn't work any
> better with Jaws then it's more likely to be PowerPoint not exposing it
> correctly).
>
> Re obscured, that is usually reported at design time (ie when you open the
> file in PowerPoint but haven't pressed F5 to run the slideshow). and means
> that one placeholder is covering another on the slide.  It may not mean the
> contents of each aren't visible - if you have a one line title, but expand
> the size of the placeholder to cover the whole slide, it won't actually
> hide any other content but it will announce that it is covering it (and
> that the other content is obscured).  Overlapping placeholders can also be
> used for visual effect, although in general, when creating, it is safest to
> try to avoid overlapping unless you are sure of what you are doing.
>
> If you want to activate a link within a placeholder at design time, you can
> move to it, then open the context menu and select "Open link".
>
> We do have an issue for the problem with links while running slideshows
> here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7288  Feel free to add any
> extra comments on that (if you do, the issue is still present in the latest
> alpha).
>
> Regards
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 2:02 AM Payal Kapoor <payal69@...> wrote:
>
>> hi,
>> i am working with a PPT with several slides which have not only
>> graphics as part of the content of a slide, but also links to videos.
>> however, i am unable to access the links(which don't show up as a link
>> there) .
>> i have tried everything  but have had no success. when checking using
>> insert+F1, the message very clearly said there were hyperlinks as part
>> of the content.
>> to test that theory, i did copy the content of the slide to a word doc
>> and it shows a link as well.
>> i am using the latest version of NVDA and have tried it with one of
>> the earlier versions of JAWS 18  installed on my Windows 10 laptop.
>> the office version is 2016.
>> the message when focusing on the video in the slide is: video
>> obscured. also, i saw a message about access to the links being
>> blocked. now i don't know which key combination brought that one on.
>> after all that mishmash of information, i would be eternally grateful
>> to anyone who can help me get to the video links.
>> it is critical, since those are part of the training content for work i
>> do.
>> thanks for any possible help.
>> Best,
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Quentin Christensen
> Training and Support Manager
>
> Web: www.nvaccess.org
> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>
>
>
>
>





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Typhoon

Betsy Grenevitch
 

Thank you for the update. Glad to hear the great news about your family's safety.

On 12/2/2019 5:23 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:
Hi. First, thanks to those who prayed for us and to those who kept us in mind.  Me and my family, we truly appreciate your concern and thank you all from the bottom of our hearts.  The worst of the typhoon has almost passed, and my family is safe.  As of now, though the rain is heavy, the winds are slowing down.  I personally couldn't be at peace if I didn't know that you are all praying for and wishing your best for my family's  safety. Thank you.


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678=862-3876


Re: Why does NVDA say selected instead at times?

Gene
 

Combo box is a term I've used for years and not thought about much.  I'm not sure why it is called a combo box.  I don't see what combination a standard one does.  You up and down arrow to select something and if they are designed in certain ways, you have to open them to stop them from taking actions when you move to an item with the arrow keys.  I can see why a combo edit box would be called that, since it can be used in two different ways.
 
Since this is no longer an NVDA discussion, are you on the chat list?  I'd like to see if you can answer my question about why they are called combo boxes but after that, I suppose we should take further discussion off list, if there is any further discussion.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2019 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why does NVDA say selected instead at times?

It's not a combo box. It's a combo edit box, like the suggestions on Google search. Standard combo boxes don't allow users to type a value in, but the run dialog does, obviously. Selecting any option from the list causes the value to be placed immediately in the text field of the run dialog. The options in the combo box portion of the control serve as autocomplete options. The run dialog in Windows has actually been this way since Windows 95.

On 12/1/2019 3:19 PM, Gene wrote:
Perhaps.  I wonder if this is information Microsoft is presenting.  It doesn't sound like something NVDA would do.
 
I should correct an error.  I initially said the run dialog presents a list.  It’s a combo box but it evidently is not a standard one.  I don't know how they look but combo boxes don't usually announce items as selected. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2019 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why does NVDA say selected instead at times?

I actually have no idea. Perhaps someone else with more knowledge on that side of things can explain.

On 12/1/2019 4:55 AM, Gene wrote:
I'm curious what changed in NVDA.  It didn't used to do that.  I don't know when it started.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why does NVDA say selected instead at times?

This happens because text in the run dialogue is selected by default when the dialogue opens. When you use the up and down arrow keys to move through the history of commands you have entered, the text changes, but the selection remains. Windows simply puts the new text into the text field every time you press up or down, but the text never gets unselected before being changed.


On Nov 30, 2019, at 4:38 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:


I updated to Windows 7 Service pack 1 recently to try to solve a problem which wasn’t solved in that way.  I had put it off because there was a version of a program I can’t run after the update.  It’s a little less convenient but I can run a newer version and I almost never run it anyway. 
 
Which is to explain why I hadn’t played with newer versions of NVDA for a good while.  But now, I’m curious about something.  When I am in the run dialog and up and down arrow in the list of things I have run, NVDA says the word instead off and on.  It might say Notepad selected, then if I down arrow, it might say c:\audio selected instead or maybe Wordpad selected instead.  This isn’t consistent and it doesn’t do this in Windows Explorer.  I’m curious why that is.
 
Gene

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Re: Typhoon

 

hi. i am very glad that you and your family are safe.
i pray for the people of the world always.
i wish prosperity, felicity and happiness for all.

On 12/3/19, Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...> wrote:
Hi. First, thanks to those who prayed for us and to those who kept us
in mind. Me and my family, we truly appreciate your concern and thank
you all from the bottom of our hearts. The worst of the typhoon has
almost passed, and my family is safe. As of now, though the rain is
heavy, the winds are slowing down. I personally couldn't be at peace if
I didn't know that you are all praying for and wishing your best for my
family's safety. Thank you.




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Why does NVDA say selected instead at times?

Laughing Thunder
 

It's not a combo box. It's a combo edit box, like the suggestions on Google search. Standard combo boxes don't allow users to type a value in, but the run dialog does, obviously. Selecting any option from the list causes the value to be placed immediately in the text field of the run dialog. The options in the combo box portion of the control serve as autocomplete options. The run dialog in Windows has actually been this way since Windows 95.

On 12/1/2019 3:19 PM, Gene wrote:
Perhaps.  I wonder if this is information Microsoft is presenting.  It doesn't sound like something NVDA would do.
 
I should correct an error.  I initially said the run dialog presents a list.  It’s a combo box but it evidently is not a standard one.  I don't know how they look but combo boxes don't usually announce items as selected. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2019 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why does NVDA say selected instead at times?

I actually have no idea. Perhaps someone else with more knowledge on that side of things can explain.

On 12/1/2019 4:55 AM, Gene wrote:
I'm curious what changed in NVDA.  It didn't used to do that.  I don't know when it started.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why does NVDA say selected instead at times?

This happens because text in the run dialogue is selected by default when the dialogue opens. When you use the up and down arrow keys to move through the history of commands you have entered, the text changes, but the selection remains. Windows simply puts the new text into the text field every time you press up or down, but the text never gets unselected before being changed.


On Nov 30, 2019, at 4:38 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:


I updated to Windows 7 Service pack 1 recently to try to solve a problem which wasn’t solved in that way.  I had put it off because there was a version of a program I can’t run after the update.  It’s a little less convenient but I can run a newer version and I almost never run it anyway. 
 
Which is to explain why I hadn’t played with newer versions of NVDA for a good while.  But now, I’m curious about something.  When I am in the run dialog and up and down arrow in the list of things I have run, NVDA says the word instead off and on.  It might say Notepad selected, then if I down arrow, it might say c:\audio selected instead or maybe Wordpad selected instead.  This isn’t consistent and it doesn’t do this in Windows Explorer.  I’m curious why that is.
 
Gene

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Re: Typhoon

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi,


I'm so glad you're all safwe nopw and that the typhoon winds have started to slow down.


Rosemarie

On 12/2/2019 2:23 PM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:
Hi. First, thanks to those who prayed for us and to those who kept us in mind.  Me and my family, we truly appreciate your concern and thank you all from the bottom of our hearts.  The worst of the typhoon has almost passed, and my family is safe.  As of now, though the rain is heavy, the winds are slowing down.  I personally couldn't be at peace if I didn't know that you are all praying for and wishing your best for my family's  safety. Thank you.



Typhoon

Jaffar Sidek
 

Hi.  First, thanks to those who prayed for us and to those who kept us in mind.  Me and my family, we truly appreciate your concern and thank you all from the bottom of our hearts.  The worst of the typhoon has almost passed, and my family is safe.  As of now, though the rain is heavy, the winds are slowing down.  I personally couldn't be at peace if I didn't know that you are all praying for and wishing your best for my family's  safety. Thank you.


log snippet

 

I sent an email to this list a couple days ago about alert dialogs with Microsoft Edge Dev. I will put a link to the file in one drive. Same problem seems to be going on as with Zoom. Again, any help with this one is appreciated.


https://1drv.ms/t/s!Agj_JzZ2cFnXgvN8wuuFFJdsOb11IA?e=kYvTLW


Re: Programming Braille Displays

Rui Fontes
 

Have you tried in Manage Input gestures dialog?


Rui Fontes


Às 09:13 de 01/12/2019, Pele West escreveu:

Hi Everyone

I am quite new to NVDA and have not played with it very much.

Is there a way, either in NVDA itself or with an addon, to program
the keys on braille displays as one can in JAWS? I have a Brailliant 64
and my husband has an Alva 680 and we both use the keys to perform lot
of actions.

Thanks

pele West




Re: accessing embedded video links in Power point slides

Payal Kapoor
 

hi Quentin,
here is my response to the questions you've asked. thought i'd break
them up into two parts.
Q: When you say link to a video, do you mean a text URL or link on the
slide, or do you mean an embedded video?  When you activate a link it
will open your browser to the specified URL.  An embedded video has a
preview of the video (a still image, similar to that shown on
thumbnails in Youtube etc) with a triangle play button), when you
activate it, the video plays there in the slideshow without opening
another program.
P: There is no real text link, only some image and text saying video.
when coppied on to a word doc, it says hyperlink, but, no real URL. i
am not sure what that would be ccalled. it is however, not an external
source, but links to a folder that has all the relevant videos. i was
told it links there and plays.
essentially, it is an entire presentation made by sighted folk at my
work place that is used for training. i am the first blind person
attempting to use it. it contains two different PPTs for two different
programmes we run. also, it has other training material we access from
within the whole thing.
Q: Activating links is a bit problematic and sounds like what you are
encountering.  To activate a link on a slide, press TAB to move to it
- NVDA reports nothing - and then press ENTER.  Out of curiosity,
since you mentioned trying it with Jaws, did you have trouble with
Jaws as well?  (That would help narrow down the issue - if it works
fine with Jaws, it could be NVDA not responding correctly to the link
- if it doesn't work any better with Jaws then it's more likely to be
PowerPoint not exposing it correctly).
P: I think what you have said about the problem with accessing links
is exactly what i'm having trouble with. however, i noticed that when
the PPT is in slide mode, where more specifically, i activate the edit
mode by pressing enter when in the specific slide, the link appears
alongside the video. arrow down to it, choosing the open hyperlink
option in the applications menu, voila! the video began playing.
i was told that this option cannot be used when making a presentation,
since it is not visually appealing or as good as it is in the
presentation mode.
the presentation mode won't show me a link,and when pressing enter
there brings a prompt saying-no pointer available; choose a pointer.
back to the application menu, but this time, all the pointer options
do nothing.
JAWS did nothing different either. in fact, NVDA allowed me to see the
link; JAWS didn't. that might also be due to the old version of JAWS i
have installed on my laptop.
also, could you tell me how can i copy the contents of the slides, so
i have it in a word doc to refer as notes rather than opepning the PPT
eacj time? i did try the universal copy paste command, but strangely
nothing showed up.
this is definitely a deterrent in being able to run presentations
visually for sighted folk when training. i hope we find a resolution
to it soon enough.
thanks for the help.
Best,
Payal

On 12/2/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
When you say link to a video, do you mean a text URL or link on the slide,
or do you mean an embedded video? When you activate a link it will open
your browser to the specified URL. An embedded video has a preview of the
video (a still image, similar to that shown on thumbnails in Youtube etc)
with a triangle play button), when you activate it, the video plays there
in the slideshow without opening another program.

While running the slideshow, activating embedded videos should work ok.
Activating links is a bit problematic and sounds like what you are
encountering. To activate a link on a slide, press TAB to move to it -
NVDA reports nothing - and then press ENTER. Out of curiosity, since you
mentioned trying it with Jaws, did you have trouble with Jaws as well?
(That would help narrow down the issue - if it works fine with Jaws, it
could be NVDA not responding correctly to the link - if it doesn't work any
better with Jaws then it's more likely to be PowerPoint not exposing it
correctly).

Re obscured, that is usually reported at design time (ie when you open the
file in PowerPoint but haven't pressed F5 to run the slideshow). and means
that one placeholder is covering another on the slide. It may not mean the
contents of each aren't visible - if you have a one line title, but expand
the size of the placeholder to cover the whole slide, it won't actually
hide any other content but it will announce that it is covering it (and
that the other content is obscured). Overlapping placeholders can also be
used for visual effect, although in general, when creating, it is safest to
try to avoid overlapping unless you are sure of what you are doing.

If you want to activate a link within a placeholder at design time, you can
move to it, then open the context menu and select "Open link".

We do have an issue for the problem with links while running slideshows
here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7288 Feel free to add any
extra comments on that (if you do, the issue is still present in the latest
alpha).

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 2:02 AM Payal Kapoor <payal69@...> wrote:

hi,
i am working with a PPT with several slides which have not only
graphics as part of the content of a slide, but also links to videos.
however, i am unable to access the links(which don't show up as a link
there) .
i have tried everything but have had no success. when checking using
insert+F1, the message very clearly said there were hyperlinks as part
of the content.
to test that theory, i did copy the content of the slide to a word doc
and it shows a link as well.
i am using the latest version of NVDA and have tried it with one of
the earlier versions of JAWS 18 installed on my Windows 10 laptop.
the office version is 2016.
the message when focusing on the video in the slide is: video
obscured. also, i saw a message about access to the links being
blocked. now i don't know which key combination brought that one on.
after all that mishmash of information, i would be eternally grateful
to anyone who can help me get to the video links.
it is critical, since those are part of the training content for work i
do.
thanks for any possible help.
Best,



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Re: Typhoon

Betsy Grenevitch
 

I will be praying for you and your family. Please somehow let us know how things are going there. I hope they allow this topic to continue since it is affecting one of the list members.


On 12/1/2019 3:17 PM, Arlene wrote:

There: I’ll keep you all in my prayers. Stay safe.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jaffar Sidek
Sent: December 1, 2019 5:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Typhoon

 

Hi all.  This is strictly Off topic I know,     but please keep my

family in the philippines in mind as Typhoon Kamuri with winds of up to

150 MPH, bringing with it rain of up to 16 inches  is as of now raging

across Luzon Island in the Philippines.  The hurricane winds is slowly

rising,  blowing across the area where we live. and is expected to peak

early this morning, philippines time.  I am expected to return to my

family for christmes as I am currently working in Singapore.  I only

hope that I can return to my wife and kids with the knowledge that they

are safe and sound. To those of you who believe in God, please pray for

us.  If you don't, keep us in your hopes.  Thank you.

 

 

 

 

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Re: Typhoon

Sile
 

Thinking of you and your family at this time.
On Dec 1, 2019, at 8:19 AM, molly the blind tech lover <brainardmolly@...> wrote:

I will be praying for you. God bless you and your family.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Sunday, December 1, 2019 8:11 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Typhoon

Hi all. This is strictly Off topic I know, but please keep my family in the philippines in mind as Typhoon Kamuri with winds of up to
150 MPH, bringing with it rain of up to 16 inches is as of now raging across Luzon Island in the Philippines. The hurricane winds is slowly rising, blowing across the area where we live. and is expected to peak early this morning, philippines time. I am expected to return to my family for christmes as I am currently working in Singapore. I only hope that I can return to my wife and kids with the knowledge that they are safe and sound. To those of you who believe in God, please pray for us. If you don't, keep us in your hopes. Thank you.







Thinking of you and your family at this time.
Sile


Re: Nvda keeps repeating every thing twice on the whats new page with alpha.

Kevin Cussick
 

as I say using firefox and edge dev. happens with both.

On 30/11/2019 23:47, Quentin Christensen wrote:
As Joseph said, which browser are you using?
Firefox does seem to repeat a couple of things at the start, even moreso than Chrome - partly also, the title of the page "What's new in NVDA" is the same as the first heading level1 which starts the page, so that text gets read at least twice.  After that, the version number, new features etc, should all be read only once.
On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 10:18 AM Joseph Lee <@joslee <mailto:@joslee>> wrote:
Hi,
Which web browser is this?
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> On Behalf Of
Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 3:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Nvda keeps repeating every thing twice on the whats
new page with alpha.
Hi  Nvda devs,   I have now for at least 3 weeks now when reading the
what's new under the help of Nvda alphahad the problem of Nvda
repeating
everything twice,   it did not used to do this!   every thing and every
link it speaks twice it is very annoying. tried espeak and the sinth I
use is RH voice,   any ideas? thanking you all in advance.
--
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Training and Support Manager
Web: www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>


Re: accessing embedded video links in Power point slides

Quentin Christensen
 

When you say link to a video, do you mean a text URL or link on the slide, or do you mean an embedded video?  When you activate a link it will open your browser to the specified URL.  An embedded video has a preview of the video (a still image, similar to that shown on thumbnails in Youtube etc) with a triangle play button), when you activate it, the video plays there in the slideshow without opening another program.

While running the slideshow, activating embedded videos should work ok.  Activating links is a bit problematic and sounds like what you are encountering.  To activate a link on a slide, press TAB to move to it - NVDA reports nothing - and then press ENTER.  Out of curiosity, since you mentioned trying it with Jaws, did you have trouble with Jaws as well?  (That would help narrow down the issue - if it works fine with Jaws, it could be NVDA not responding correctly to the link - if it doesn't work any better with Jaws then it's more likely to be PowerPoint not exposing it correctly).

Re obscured, that is usually reported at design time (ie when you open the file in PowerPoint but haven't pressed F5 to run the slideshow). and means that one placeholder is covering another on the slide.  It may not mean the contents of each aren't visible - if you have a one line title, but expand the size of the placeholder to cover the whole slide, it won't actually hide any other content but it will announce that it is covering it (and that the other content is obscured).  Overlapping placeholders can also be used for visual effect, although in general, when creating, it is safest to try to avoid overlapping unless you are sure of what you are doing.

If you want to activate a link within a placeholder at design time, you can move to it, then open the context menu and select "Open link".

We do have an issue for the problem with links while running slideshows here: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7288  Feel free to add any extra comments on that (if you do, the issue is still present in the latest alpha).

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 2:02 AM Payal Kapoor <payal69@...> wrote:
hi,
i am working with a PPT with several slides which have not only
graphics as part of the content of a slide, but also links to videos.
however, i am unable to access the links(which don't show up as a link
there) .
i have tried everything  but have had no success. when checking using
insert+F1, the message very clearly said there were hyperlinks as part
of the content.
to test that theory, i did copy the content of the slide to a word doc
and it shows a link as well.
i am using the latest version of NVDA and have tried it with one of
the earlier versions of JAWS 18  installed on my Windows 10 laptop.
the office version is 2016.
the message when focusing on the video in the slide is: video
obscured. also, i saw a message about access to the links being
blocked. now i don't know which key combination brought that one on.
after all that mishmash of information, i would be eternally grateful
to anyone who can help me get to the video links.
it is critical, since those are part of the training content for work i do.
thanks for any possible help.
Best,





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: Nvda keeps repeating every thing twice on the whats new page with alpha.

Kevin Cussick
 

edge dev and firefox I am sure I already said this but maybe not.

On 29/11/2019 23:18, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Which web browser is this?
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 3:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Nvda keeps repeating every thing twice on the whats new page with alpha.
Hi Nvda devs, I have now for at least 3 weeks now when reading the
what's new under the help of Nvda alphahad the problem of Nvda repeating
everything twice, it did not used to do this! every thing and every
link it speaks twice it is very annoying. tried espeak and the sinth I
use is RH voice, any ideas? thanking you all in advance.


Re: NVDA not reading MS-Word Dialog Boxes

Quentin Christensen
 

Try running the "COM Registration fixing tool" which you can find on NVDA's tools menu (NVDA+N, then T, then down arrow to that option and enter).

Otherwise, please let us know exactly WHICH version of Windows / office the machines are running.  A copy of the NVDA log from one of the affected machines might also help (either pasted into the body of a message, or email oflist to info@... with a quick description of the issue).

See: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/LogFilesAndCrashDumps for info on the log, debug level would be ideal.

Regards

Quentin

On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 2:56 AM Aman Agrawal <amanagrawal456@...> wrote:
Yes all are same 

On Sun, 1 Dec, 2019, 21:21 Antony Stone, <antony.stone@...> wrote:
Are all the laptops identical, running the same version of Windows, and the
same version of Word?

If not, please tell us about the differences.


Antony.

On Sunday 01 December 2019 at 12:54:34, Aman Agrawal wrote:

> I have installed NVDA in 5 laptops. But in 3 laptops I'm facing a problem
> which i think you can solve.
>
> In MS Word, while opening any dialog box ( like of Font ) , the NVDA is not
> reading the contents/ options provided in the dialog box.
>
> Please help me out to solve this problem so that it can be a great help for
> some special Students.
>
> Waiting for an early reply.

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Re: Why does NVDA say selected instead at times?

Gene
 

Perhaps.  I wonder if this is information Microsoft is presenting.  It doesn't sound like something NVDA would do.
 
I should correct an error.  I initially said the run dialog presents a list.  It’s a combo box but it evidently is not a standard one.  I don't know how they look but combo boxes don't usually announce items as selected. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2019 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why does NVDA say selected instead at times?

I actually have no idea. Perhaps someone else with more knowledge on that side of things can explain.

On 12/1/2019 4:55 AM, Gene wrote:
I'm curious what changed in NVDA.  It didn't used to do that.  I don't know when it started.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why does NVDA say selected instead at times?

This happens because text in the run dialogue is selected by default when the dialogue opens. When you use the up and down arrow keys to move through the history of commands you have entered, the text changes, but the selection remains. Windows simply puts the new text into the text field every time you press up or down, but the text never gets unselected before being changed.


On Nov 30, 2019, at 4:38 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:


I updated to Windows 7 Service pack 1 recently to try to solve a problem which wasn’t solved in that way.  I had put it off because there was a version of a program I can’t run after the update.  It’s a little less convenient but I can run a newer version and I almost never run it anyway. 
 
Which is to explain why I hadn’t played with newer versions of NVDA for a good while.  But now, I’m curious about something.  When I am in the run dialog and up and down arrow in the list of things I have run, NVDA says the word instead off and on.  It might say Notepad selected, then if I down arrow, it might say c:\audio selected instead or maybe Wordpad selected instead.  This isn’t consistent and it doesn’t do this in Windows Explorer.  I’m curious why that is.
 
Gene

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Re: Why does NVDA say selected instead at times?

Laughing Thunder
 

I actually have no idea. Perhaps someone else with more knowledge on that side of things can explain.

On 12/1/2019 4:55 AM, Gene wrote:
I'm curious what changed in NVDA.  It didn't used to do that.  I don't know when it started.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2019 10:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why does NVDA say selected instead at times?

This happens because text in the run dialogue is selected by default when the dialogue opens. When you use the up and down arrow keys to move through the history of commands you have entered, the text changes, but the selection remains. Windows simply puts the new text into the text field every time you press up or down, but the text never gets unselected before being changed.


On Nov 30, 2019, at 4:38 PM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:


I updated to Windows 7 Service pack 1 recently to try to solve a problem which wasn’t solved in that way.  I had put it off because there was a version of a program I can’t run after the update.  It’s a little less convenient but I can run a newer version and I almost never run it anyway. 
 
Which is to explain why I hadn’t played with newer versions of NVDA for a good while.  But now, I’m curious about something.  When I am in the run dialog and up and down arrow in the list of things I have run, NVDA says the word instead off and on.  It might say Notepad selected, then if I down arrow, it might say c:\audio selected instead or maybe Wordpad selected instead.  This isn’t consistent and it doesn’t do this in Windows Explorer.  I’m curious why that is.
 
Gene

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Re: Typhoon

Arlene
 

There: I’ll keep you all in my prayers. Stay safe.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jaffar Sidek
Sent: December 1, 2019 5:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Typhoon

 

Hi all.  This is strictly Off topic I know,     but please keep my

family in the philippines in mind as Typhoon Kamuri with winds of up to

150 MPH, bringing with it rain of up to 16 inches  is as of now raging

across Luzon Island in the Philippines.  The hurricane winds is slowly

rising,  blowing across the area where we live. and is expected to peak

early this morning, philippines time.  I am expected to return to my

family for christmes as I am currently working in Singapore.  I only

hope that I can return to my wife and kids with the knowledge that they

are safe and sound. To those of you who believe in God, please pray for

us.  If you don't, keep us in your hopes.  Thank you.