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Will NVDA work smoothly in Windows 10 on ARM?

Adam Samec
 

Hello,

I am considering buying a notebook with an ARM-based processor, and I am just wondering whether the x86 version of NVDA will work well in the Windows 10 on ARM version of Windows. If not, are there plans for the development of an ARM-based version of NVDA?

Thanks for your thoughts.

Best regards

Adam


moderated Re: RAM Problem with Dell computers that have Realtek HD Audio Driver, and NVDA or JAWS

luke scholey
 

I agree, good point raised. But I don’t want to automatically exclude NVDA or a 3rd party component that it uses unless I can prove it is dell. What if a tweak could be made within NVDA that detects this driver and fixes the leak. After all, anyone could find The source of the leak and fix it themselves if they know how, and have the appropriate access.

I think if it were possible to fix, we have better luck with NVAccess taking it seriously than dell.

Thanks also for updating the title.

All the best
Luke



On 30 Nov 2020, at 15:39, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Luke,

         In this situation, you've pretty much effectively eliminated NVDA from the equation.  If NVDA were the source of the problem it should occur regardless of the device drivers in place.  Memory leaks, much like fluid leaks, have sources, and if you patch a given source and the leaking stops entirely, you know the culprit.

         Also note that Melissa states that she has the issue with either JAWS or NVDA, which points even more toward something external to either one of those programs as being the root cause.

         I hope someone reports these findings to Dell.  Many manufacturers, and Dell is one of them, customize device drivers provided by the actual hardware manufacturers to their own liking.  I've got Realtek audio drivers on several machines and have never encountered this issue either with JAWS or NVDA.  The finger is pointing directly at Dell and some tweak(s) they've made to the audio drivers they supply with their machines.
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moderated Re: RAM Problem with Dell computers that have Realtek HD Audio Driver, and NVDA or JAWS

 

By the way, I have updated the title of this topic for archival purposes.  This situation is very limited in scope and requires a specific combination of computer brand, Dell, and audio drivers (probably customized), Realtek, in order for the issue to occur.
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

If you think that you can think about a thing, inextricably attached to something else, without thinking of the thing it is attached to, then you have a legal mind.

        ~ Thomas Reed Powell

 


moderated Re: RAM Problem with Dell computers that have Realtek HD Audio Driver, and NVDA or JAWS

 

Luke,

         In this situation, you've pretty much effectively eliminated NVDA from the equation.  If NVDA were the source of the problem it should occur regardless of the device drivers in place.  Memory leaks, much like fluid leaks, have sources, and if you patch a given source and the leaking stops entirely, you know the culprit.

         Also note that Melissa states that she has the issue with either JAWS or NVDA, which points even more toward something external to either one of those programs as being the root cause.

         I hope someone reports these findings to Dell.  Many manufacturers, and Dell is one of them, customize device drivers provided by the actual hardware manufacturers to their own liking.  I've got Realtek audio drivers on several machines and have never encountered this issue either with JAWS or NVDA.  The finger is pointing directly at Dell and some tweak(s) they've made to the audio drivers they supply with their machines.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 20H2, Build 19042  

If you think that you can think about a thing, inextricably attached to something else, without thinking of the thing it is attached to, then you have a legal mind.

        ~ Thomas Reed Powell

 


moderated Re: RAM Problem with Dell computers that have Realtek HD Audio Driver, and NVDA or JAWS

luke scholey
 

Hi Melissa

I know how annoying this can be. See my message below for instructions on how to sort it.

Let me know if you need anymore detailed steps.

All the best
Luke



On 30 Nov 2020, at 12:17, luke scholey via groups.io <l.scholey@...> wrote:



Hi all

 

Just to add to this:

 

There seems to be an issue with some (but not all) new Dell laptops that use a version of the Realtech audio driver and NVDA.

 

As stated below, there’s a memory leak with the Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation (audiodg.exe) service. When using NVDA, especially for long periods of time, this service eats all available ram and then starts gobbling up virtual memory as well until the device blue screens. This is limited to when NVDA speaks, my testing has revealed that if you leave NVDA silent for a while, the memory slowly comes back down again. This leak also doesn’t happen when other audio is playing so it seems to be a problem with the way NVDA uses this service. But if you’re using one of these effected laptops in a 9 til 5  job, over a few hours, the machine would become slower and slower.

 

A temporary fix for this is to find the audio driver in use in the device manager from hardware and sound, navigate to the sounds video and game controllers category and update the audio driver. Instead of searching for updates on the internet automatically, choose the manual option and select the button that will allow the user to choose a driver from a compatible list of drivers in the same category. Usually there will only be two drivers in this list, the current Realtech driver and the default Windows 10 driver which is called HD Audio from Microsoft. Click this driver to update and the audio on the machine will stop. Restart the laptop to begin using the new updated driver. Using this HD Audio driver, the issue is no longer present.

 

I’m not saying NVDA is at fault here because I don’t know enough about this yet. It could be that the driver is the culprit, and NVDA is doing things correctly but the driver is not handling NVDA very well.

 

So far I’ve tested this on Dell Inspiron laptops from the 570 range and above, from Windows 10 1809 and above and NVDA 2019.1 and above.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Luke

 

 

From: William Wong
Sent: 30 November 2020 11:19
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Ram problem and nvda

 

H

 


moderated Re: RAM Problem with Dell computers that have Realtek HD Audio Driver, and NVDA or JAWS

 

I have had the same issue with my Dell laptop that I got in September for school. This happens Withjaws or NVDA. I would love the instructions please because it does this to me in word or just using a browser and I would love to avoid sending in my laptop once the semester is over to get it fixed.

Melissa

On Nov 30, 2020, at 5:19 AM, William Wong <@WaiWilliam> wrote:

Hi,

The issue here was first discussed within the Win 10 mailing list.


I bought a new Dell desktop and I found that after using for several minutes the ram was abnormally behaved, i.e. without using much of a ram consuming program, the ram is almost full.


The Dell technical, pointed out that the Windows Grapth Audio isolation was the process that caused the problem.


But actually it is not, many thanks to Luke who pointed out to me that after changing the sound driver from Realtech HD Audio to Windows default Windows HD audio, and the ram issue has gone.

I want to bring this issue to your attention, seeing if this is a nvda issue? if so I will make a issue on github.


Thanks,

William






moderated Re: RAM Problem with Dell computers that have Realtek HD Audio Driver, and NVDA or JAWS

luke scholey
 

Hi all

 

Just to add to this:

 

There seems to be an issue with some (but not all) new Dell laptops that use a version of the Realtech audio driver and NVDA.

 

As stated below, there’s a memory leak with the Windows Audio Device Graph Isolation (audiodg.exe) service. When using NVDA, especially for long periods of time, this service eats all available ram and then starts gobbling up virtual memory as well until the device blue screens. This is limited to when NVDA speaks, my testing has revealed that if you leave NVDA silent for a while, the memory slowly comes back down again. This leak also doesn’t happen when other audio is playing so it seems to be a problem with the way NVDA uses this service. But if you’re using one of these effected laptops in a 9 til 5  job, over a few hours, the machine would become slower and slower.

 

A temporary fix for this is to find the audio driver in use in the device manager from hardware and sound, navigate to the sounds video and game controllers category and update the audio driver. Instead of searching for updates on the internet automatically, choose the manual option and select the button that will allow the user to choose a driver from a compatible list of drivers in the same category. Usually there will only be two drivers in this list, the current Realtech driver and the default Windows 10 driver which is called HD Audio from Microsoft. Click this driver to update and the audio on the machine will stop. Restart the laptop to begin using the new updated driver. Using this HD Audio driver, the issue is no longer present.

 

I’m not saying NVDA is at fault here because I don’t know enough about this yet. It could be that the driver is the culprit, and NVDA is doing things correctly but the driver is not handling NVDA very well.

 

So far I’ve tested this on Dell Inspiron laptops from the 570 range and above, from Windows 10 1809 and above and NVDA 2019.1 and above.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Luke

 

 

From: William Wong
Sent: 30 November 2020 11:19
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Ram problem and nvda

 

H

 


moderated RAM Problem with Dell computers that have Realtek HD Audio Driver, and NVDA or JAWS

William Wong
 

Hi,

The issue here was first discussed within the Win 10 mailing list.


I bought a new Dell desktop and I found that after using for several minutes the ram was abnormally behaved, i.e. without using much of a ram consuming program, the ram is almost full.


The Dell technical, pointed out that the Windows Grapth Audio isolation was the process that caused the problem.


But actually it is not, many thanks to Luke who pointed out to me that after changing the sound driver from Realtech HD Audio to Windows default Windows HD audio, and the ram issue has gone.

I want to bring this issue to your attention, seeing if this is a nvda issue?  if so I will make a issue on github.


Thanks,

William


Playing NVDA sound in a Microsoft Teams conference

Sylvie Duchateau
 

Hello,

I am trying to have NVDA speak in a Microsoft teams meeting.

I check the screen sharing setting, check the box to include audio.

But people do not hear nvda sound.

In tried different things in pressing ctrl+alt+S and choosing different sound sources.

But nothing helps.

Using another screen reader with the same sound settings works.

Do you have experienced this with teams? Have you any suggestions?

Thank you

Best

Sylvie


Re: NVDA goes silent when arrowing down the list of participants panel in Zoom

Bob Cavanaugh
 

I'll have to investigate that. I don't use Zoom with System Access all
that much, because most of the time I'm doing the recording, and
System Access does not find the record button when tabbing through.
I'm not sure what my friend uses when we talk on Zoom regularly, but I
know her cue to start talking is me finishing setting my timer,
meaning that System Access doesn't read the recording alert. I'll play
around with that when I attend a large meeting next.

On 11/29/20, Sky Mundell <skyt@...> wrote:
Hello Bob. Just curious, does SA have that problem? System Access I mean?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob
Cavanaugh
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 6:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA goes silent when arrowing down the list of
participants panel in Zoom

I have this issue too. What I've found to work is to hit your up arrow when
you get to the point where it goes silent, then your down arrow again. That
helps for a brief time, then you have to repeat that process again. I agree,
kind of annoying. I'm also having two additional issues with NVDA not
reading things properly in Zoom:
1. When typing anything in Zoom and you type something wrong, NVDA does not
read what you backspace. It reads if you type things normally, but if you
try to review or correct an error, it will not read.
2. If you're in a meeting that initially isn't being recorded, then the host
starts recording, NVDA does not read the alert that tells you that the
meeting is now being recorded.

On 11/29/20, Sim Kah Yong <simkahyong@...> wrote:
Hi all,

Wish to report the above problem when using NVDA in Zoom. IN a zoom
meeting, if I wish to find out the list of participants, I will press
alt + U to call out the participants panel. I will then arrow down the
list. After severl down arrow, NVDA will stop speaking.

I am using the latest version of NVDA, Zoom enhancement app and Zoom.
This problem has been there even with the older version of NVDA and
Zoom. I am using Windows 8.1. I have tried the following with no avail:

1. Wit no apps

2. restart NVDA

3. Re-boot my computer.

Just wish to find out if any of you have similar problem and what can
be done? Perhaps this can help to improve future version of NVDA.

I have also use JAWS and this has not been a problem. Thanks all.
















NVDA and terminal

Afik Souffir
 



Hi,
As part of my work, i need to connect via terminal, at Strauss Group.

When loading the Terminal from my laptop, NVDA is not speak and nothing shows in Braille.

What do i have to do for this to work?

Thanks for any help
Afik Souffir


Re: Excel 365

Quentin Christensen
 

NVDA+control+c should normally save NVDA's configuration.  It's NVDA+shift+c you want to set column headers (and NVDA+shift+r to set row headers).

If it's copying text, it sounds like it's just registering control+c. Double check that your NVDA key works, and if using the numpad insert, make sure numlock is off etc.

Quentin.

On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 5:42 PM Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:
when I press nvda+ctrl+c it announces 'copy link'
 
Shouldn't I be able to use cell A1 to set both column and row headers?
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Re: NVDA goes silent when arrowing down the list of participants panel in Zoom

Gene
 

What happens if you down arrow and when speech stops, read the current line. You can also try reading the current line of the navigator object, in the desktop layout, numpad 8. I don't know the laptop layout. You may not hear anything but if this combination allows you to hear the names as you move, that may be a work around that is reasonable for now.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Sky Mundell
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 8:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA goes silent when arrowing down the list of participants panel in Zoom

Hello Bob. Just curious, does SA have that problem? System Access I mean?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 6:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA goes silent when arrowing down the list of participants panel in Zoom

I have this issue too. What I've found to work is to hit your up arrow when you get to the point where it goes silent, then your down arrow again. That helps for a brief time, then you have to repeat that process again. I agree, kind of annoying. I'm also having two additional issues with NVDA not reading things properly in Zoom:
1. When typing anything in Zoom and you type something wrong, NVDA does not read what you backspace. It reads if you type things normally, but if you try to review or correct an error, it will not read.
2. If you're in a meeting that initially isn't being recorded, then the host starts recording, NVDA does not read the alert that tells you that the meeting is now being recorded.

On 11/29/20, Sim Kah Yong <simkahyong@...> wrote:
Hi all,

Wish to report the above problem when using NVDA in Zoom. IN a zoom
meeting, if I wish to find out the list of participants, I will press
alt + U to call out the participants panel. I will then arrow down the
list. After severl down arrow, NVDA will stop speaking.

I am using the latest version of NVDA, Zoom enhancement app and Zoom.
This problem has been there even with the older version of NVDA and
Zoom. I am using Windows 8.1. I have tried the following with no avail:

1. Wit no apps

2. restart NVDA

3. Re-boot my computer.

Just wish to find out if any of you have similar problem and what can
be done? Perhaps this can help to improve future version of NVDA.

I have also use JAWS and this has not been a problem. Thanks all.







Re: NVDA goes silent when arrowing down the list of participants panel in Zoom

Sim Kah Yong
 

Hi, the different alerts not picking up by NVDA also Occurs with JAWS.

One solution to hear chat alerts is to open up the chat panel with Alt + H. Thanks.

On 11/30/2020 10:17 AM, Sim Kah Yong via groups.io wrote:
Hi,

Thanks for adding that into the problem of using NVDA with Zoom. I encountered those  too.

To add on, NVDA will stop to read out any alert after a while, alerts can be from chat, participants joining, leaving, or muting or unmuting. Thanks.


On 11/30/2020 10:09 AM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
I have this issue too. What I've found to work is to hit your up arrow
when you get to the point where it goes silent, then your down arrow
again. That helps for a brief time, then you have to repeat that
process again. I agree, kind of annoying. I'm also having two
additional issues with NVDA not reading things properly in Zoom:
1. When typing anything in Zoom and you type something wrong, NVDA
does not read what you backspace. It reads if you type things
normally, but if you try to review or correct an error, it will not
read.
2. If you're in a meeting that initially isn't being recorded, then
the host starts recording, NVDA does not read the alert that tells you
that the meeting is now being recorded.

On 11/29/20, Sim Kah Yong <simkahyong@...> wrote:
Hi all,

Wish to report the above problem when using NVDA in Zoom. IN a zoom
meeting, if I wish to find out the list of participants, I will press
alt + U to call out the participants panel. I will then arrow down the
list. After severl down arrow, NVDA will stop speaking.

I am using the latest version of NVDA, Zoom enhancement app and Zoom.
This problem has been there even with the older version of NVDA and
Zoom. I am using Windows 8.1. I have tried the following with no avail:

1.  Wit no apps

2.  restart NVDA

3.  Re-boot my computer.

Just wish to find out if any of you have similar problem and what can be
done? Perhaps this can help to improve future version of NVDA.

I have also use JAWS and this has not been a problem. Thanks all.











Re: NVDA goes silent when arrowing down the list of participants panel in Zoom

Sky Mundell
 

Hello Bob. Just curious, does SA have that problem? System Access I mean?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 6:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA goes silent when arrowing down the list of participants panel in Zoom

I have this issue too. What I've found to work is to hit your up arrow when you get to the point where it goes silent, then your down arrow again. That helps for a brief time, then you have to repeat that process again. I agree, kind of annoying. I'm also having two additional issues with NVDA not reading things properly in Zoom:
1. When typing anything in Zoom and you type something wrong, NVDA does not read what you backspace. It reads if you type things normally, but if you try to review or correct an error, it will not read.
2. If you're in a meeting that initially isn't being recorded, then the host starts recording, NVDA does not read the alert that tells you that the meeting is now being recorded.

On 11/29/20, Sim Kah Yong <simkahyong@...> wrote:
Hi all,

Wish to report the above problem when using NVDA in Zoom. IN a zoom
meeting, if I wish to find out the list of participants, I will press
alt + U to call out the participants panel. I will then arrow down the
list. After severl down arrow, NVDA will stop speaking.

I am using the latest version of NVDA, Zoom enhancement app and Zoom.
This problem has been there even with the older version of NVDA and
Zoom. I am using Windows 8.1. I have tried the following with no avail:

1. Wit no apps

2. restart NVDA

3. Re-boot my computer.

Just wish to find out if any of you have similar problem and what can
be done? Perhaps this can help to improve future version of NVDA.

I have also use JAWS and this has not been a problem. Thanks all.







Re: NVDA goes silent when arrowing down the list of participants panel in Zoom

Sim Kah Yong
 

Hi,

Thanks for adding that into the problem of using NVDA with Zoom. I encountered those  too.

To add on, NVDA will stop to read out any alert after a while, alerts can be from chat, participants joining, leaving, or muting or unmuting. Thanks.

On 11/30/2020 10:09 AM, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:
I have this issue too. What I've found to work is to hit your up arrow
when you get to the point where it goes silent, then your down arrow
again. That helps for a brief time, then you have to repeat that
process again. I agree, kind of annoying. I'm also having two
additional issues with NVDA not reading things properly in Zoom:
1. When typing anything in Zoom and you type something wrong, NVDA
does not read what you backspace. It reads if you type things
normally, but if you try to review or correct an error, it will not
read.
2. If you're in a meeting that initially isn't being recorded, then
the host starts recording, NVDA does not read the alert that tells you
that the meeting is now being recorded.

On 11/29/20, Sim Kah Yong <simkahyong@...> wrote:
Hi all,

Wish to report the above problem when using NVDA in Zoom. IN a zoom
meeting, if I wish to find out the list of participants, I will press
alt + U to call out the participants panel. I will then arrow down the
list. After severl down arrow, NVDA will stop speaking.

I am using the latest version of NVDA, Zoom enhancement app and Zoom.
This problem has been there even with the older version of NVDA and
Zoom. I am using Windows 8.1. I have tried the following with no avail:

1. Wit no apps

2. restart NVDA

3. Re-boot my computer.

Just wish to find out if any of you have similar problem and what can be
done? Perhaps this can help to improve future version of NVDA.

I have also use JAWS and this has not been a problem. Thanks all.








Re: NVDA goes silent when arrowing down the list of participants panel in Zoom

Bob Cavanaugh
 

I have this issue too. What I've found to work is to hit your up arrow
when you get to the point where it goes silent, then your down arrow
again. That helps for a brief time, then you have to repeat that
process again. I agree, kind of annoying. I'm also having two
additional issues with NVDA not reading things properly in Zoom:
1. When typing anything in Zoom and you type something wrong, NVDA
does not read what you backspace. It reads if you type things
normally, but if you try to review or correct an error, it will not
read.
2. If you're in a meeting that initially isn't being recorded, then
the host starts recording, NVDA does not read the alert that tells you
that the meeting is now being recorded.

On 11/29/20, Sim Kah Yong <simkahyong@...> wrote:
Hi all,

Wish to report the above problem when using NVDA in Zoom. IN a zoom
meeting, if I wish to find out the list of participants, I will press
alt + U to call out the participants panel. I will then arrow down the
list. After severl down arrow, NVDA will stop speaking.

I am using the latest version of NVDA, Zoom enhancement app and Zoom.
This problem has been there even with the older version of NVDA and
Zoom. I am using Windows 8.1. I have tried the following with no avail:

1. Wit no apps

2. restart NVDA

3. Re-boot my computer.

Just wish to find out if any of you have similar problem and what can be
done? Perhaps this can help to improve future version of NVDA.

I have also use JAWS and this has not been a problem. Thanks all.







Re: NVDA goes silent when arrowing down the list of participants panel in Zoom

Sim Kah Yong
 

Hi Gene

Thanks for your suggestions. I have forgotten to mention that I have also tried maximising the window to no help.  Does anyone else have any ideas? Thanks.

On 11/30/2020 6:59 AM, Gene wrote:
I don't know if this will help but did you try alt enter and then maximizing the window in the menu?  also, and I don't think this will help but you never know, have you tried pressing the full screen button?

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 4:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA goes silent when arrowing down the list of participants panel in Zoom

Hi all,

Wish to report the above problem when using NVDA in Zoom. IN a zoom
meeting, if I wish to find out the list of participants, I will press
alt + U to call out the participants panel. I will then arrow down the
list. After severl down arrow, NVDA will stop speaking.

I am using the latest version of NVDA, Zoom enhancement app and Zoom.
This problem has been there even with the older version of NVDA and
Zoom. I am using Windows 8.1. I have tried the following with no avail:

1.  Wit no apps

2.  restart NVDA

3.  Re-boot my computer.

Just wish to find out if any of you have similar problem and what can be
done? Perhaps this can help to improve future version of NVDA.

I have also use JAWS and this has not been a problem. Thanks all.









Re: Input gestures dialogue section in user guide

Quentin Christensen
 

What did you have in mind?  Most sections don't have detailed examples.  I could expand on it in the Basic Training for NVDA module - currently it just gets a brief mention in the advanced section.


On Sat, Nov 28, 2020 at 5:14 PM Khalid Anwar <anwarkhalid850@...> wrote:
 I feel that the input gestures section in the user guide is not very helpful, I think there are a couple of lines in section 12 about the dialogue but not many examples of how to actually use it,  and exactly what it can be used for.
 Perhaps a video tutorial or audio podcast might be better served to explain this. 



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Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA goes silent when arrowing down the list of participants panel in Zoom

Gene
 

I don't know if this will help but did you try alt enter and then maximizing the window in the menu? also, and I don't think this will help but you never know, have you tried pressing the full screen button?

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Sim Kah Yong
Sent: Sunday, November 29, 2020 4:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA goes silent when arrowing down the list of participants panel in Zoom

Hi all,

Wish to report the above problem when using NVDA in Zoom. IN a zoom
meeting, if I wish to find out the list of participants, I will press
alt + U to call out the participants panel. I will then arrow down the
list. After severl down arrow, NVDA will stop speaking.

I am using the latest version of NVDA, Zoom enhancement app and Zoom.
This problem has been there even with the older version of NVDA and
Zoom. I am using Windows 8.1. I have tried the following with no avail:

1. Wit no apps

2. restart NVDA

3. Re-boot my computer.

Just wish to find out if any of you have similar problem and what can be
done? Perhaps this can help to improve future version of NVDA.

I have also use JAWS and this has not been a problem. Thanks all.