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Re: NVDA and Jabber

Marquette, Ed
 

Sean is absolutely correct here. Just upgrading to the latest version is not an answer.
In an organization with enterprise applications and stringent data security policies, ordinary users--even senior partners in large law firms--almost never have administrative privileges.
One has to schedule time with a member of the IT Department to install updates. In fact, I'm waiting right now to get the latest 2020 version of NVDA (I'm still on 2019.3).
Then, there is the question of whether the enterprise is ready to upgrade an enterprise application. Typically, an application will go through a testing phase, and at that, the version will be at least one (and usually two) releases back, the hope being that patches and bug fixes will have solved problems that almost inevitably accompany new releases.
Being a part of a large organization has its advantages, but there are disadvantages too.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Jabber

[ CAUTION - EXTERNAL SENDER ]

Well obviously you couldn't do it yourself in a work place, you need to ask for it.

I found that out the hard way when updating my isp controled router last year I had to ask for it and was used to doing my own updates.



On 16/06/2020 10:42 pm, Sean Murphy wrote:
Shawn

when I used to work for Cisco, I supported the jabber application for accessibility. The last version I worked on was 12.7. Hence I have a far deeper knowledge than yourself and most people on this list. You just can’t upgrade such an application without your IT department support. Your comment on just upgrade to the latest version is very misplaced and clearly indicates you don’t have a full understanding on how enterprise applications work

Cisco‘s long-term is to remove the requirement of having any form of scripts or plug-ins for Windows screen readers.

Sean



My experience is the part

On 16 Jun 2020, at 8:13 pm, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmmm well obviously first you should get the latest update and try again if you are not updated.



On 16/06/2020 10:10 pm, Sean Murphy wrote:
I used to work for Cisco Systems in the accessibility team. Jabber version 12.1 and 4.0 support NVDA JabbJabber version 12.5 and later does not really supportnvda Jabber 12.7 and later I suspect the level of support has improved. Jabber 12.7 has a major uplift where you do not require Jaws scrips There are still some gaps here as well. I do not know about any later versions. My suggestion is send your complaints tMy suggestion is send your complaints to Cisco Be vebe very loud about it. The accessibility team will do their best but the ownership relies on the product teamThe accessibility team will do their best but the ownership relies on the product team.

My experience is the part

On 16 Jun 2020, at 12:23 am, Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@kutakrock.com> wrote:
All:

I know at least one other member of this list is a Jabber user. Jabber, a Cisco softphone product, is really wonderful and is mostly accessible. When office phones are not accessible or only marginally accessible, Jabber really helps, and because it is a Cisco product, the IT departments in large companies do not push back--as they do with programs having less recognized pedigrees. Jabber is even more important now that many, if not most, of us are working primarily from our home offices.
NVDA works quite well with Jabber on 95% of the calling features; however, it does not give the "STATUS" of the person being called, and it does not work well with Jabber's live chat feature.
JAWS handles these features fine, but JAWS is so bloated and so slow that our key application, a document management system, nearly chokes with JAWS running.
Once there was a Jabber add-in for NVDA, but it did not help with the above features.
Any assistance would be appreciated.





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Re: remote servers

Hareth
 

Using that term, won't help you fixing it.
I'm using nvdaremote.com a lot for many times a day for remote support.
My network is private and my computers behind 2 routers.
Other than the rare a few seconds connection drop offs once in a while
I have no problems using it appreciatively.
I'm sure whatever is going on with you not making it work properly, Is
on your end of the network, routers port forwarding or your own
provider blocking it. its on your end.
As long its working fine with most of us, you know what that means.
TC

On 6/16/20, mattias <mjonsson1986@gmail.com> wrote:
NVDA remote addon has allways been crap

If you are behind a router no go

Trust me i have tryed



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Ämne: [nvda] remote servers



I tried to connect to the remote server, j c host, and then I tried to
connect to the default remote server. in both cases, I got a can not connect
to the remote computer. and all I had was o ik to press.
where is there a list of remote servers? larry




Re: CodeFactory eloquence won't start anymore

Chris
 

There are two versions of the code factory addon available

Make sure you have the python 3 compatible version installed

 

 

From: Vincent Le Goff
Sent: 16 June 2020 19:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] CodeFactory eloquence won't start anymore

 

Hello everyone,

 

 

I don't know if I should write here, but it's mostly to see if others

had this issue.  Perhaps I was unlucky.  I often am with technology.

 

 

So I purchased CodeFactory eloquence and it worked well... until it

didn't.  Now my profile with Eloquence in it won't start.  When

selecting it I have a dialog telling me that CodeFactory will open

settings to check registration.  I say okay and yes when Windows asks me

if this software should be allowed to perform admin tasks.  The settings

open... but on clicking on ok I get a simple error: couldn't load

synthesizer.  This happens if I select the speech synthesizer in NVDA's

settings as well.

 

 

So I would guess: not an NVDA bug, most likely a CodeFactory bug. 

Still, as far as I know, things worked great before the update of the

last NVDA version (I'm running on 2020.1 now).  Then again, it can

hardly be a Python version error, since I don't expect major changes

took place in Python version between these NVDA versions.

 

 

Has anyone experienced similar issues?  And found a quick fix?  I like

quick fixes... if they hold.

 

 

Thanks!

 

 

Vincent

 

 

 

 


Re: CodeFactory eloquence won't start anymore

Rui Fontes
 

Have you re-registered the product?


Rui Fontes


Às 19:28 de 16/06/2020, Vincent Le Goff escreveu:

Hello everyone,


I don't know if I should write here, but it's mostly to see if others had this issue.  Perhaps I was unlucky.  I often am with technology.


So I purchased CodeFactory eloquence and it worked well... until it didn't.  Now my profile with Eloquence in it won't start.  When selecting it I have a dialog telling me that CodeFactory will open settings to check registration.  I say okay and yes when Windows asks me if this software should be allowed to perform admin tasks.  The settings open... but on clicking on ok I get a simple error: couldn't load synthesizer.  This happens if I select the speech synthesizer in NVDA's settings as well.


So I would guess: not an NVDA bug, most likely a CodeFactory bug. Still, as far as I know, things worked great before the update of the last NVDA version (I'm running on 2020.1 now).  Then again, it can hardly be a Python version error, since I don't expect major changes took place in Python version between these NVDA versions.


Has anyone experienced similar issues?  And found a quick fix?  I like quick fixes... if they hold.


Thanks!


Vincent



Re: NVDA and Jabber

 

Well obviously you couldn't do it yourself in a work place, you need to ask for it.

I found that out the hard way when updating my isp controled router last year I had to ask for it and was used to doing my own updates.

On 16/06/2020 10:42 pm, Sean Murphy wrote:
Shawn

when I used to work for Cisco, I supported the jabber application for accessibility. The last version I worked on was 12.7. Hence I have a far deeper knowledge than yourself and most people on this list. You just can’t upgrade such an application without your IT department support. Your comment on just upgrade to the latest version is very misplaced and clearly indicates you don’t have a full understanding on how enterprise applications work

Cisco‘s long-term is to remove the requirement of having any form of scripts or plug-ins for Windows screen readers.

Sean



My experience is the part

On 16 Jun 2020, at 8:13 pm, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmmm well obviously first you should get the latest update and try again if you are not updated.



On 16/06/2020 10:10 pm, Sean Murphy wrote:
I used to work for Cisco Systems in the accessibility team. Jabber version 12.1 and 4.0 support NVDA JabbJabber version 12.5 and later does not really supportnvda Jabber 12.7 and later I suspect the level of support has improved. Jabber 12.7 has a major uplift where you do not require Jaws scrips There are still some gaps here as well. I do not know about any later versions. My suggestion is send your complaints tMy suggestion is send your complaints to Cisco Be vebe very loud about it. The accessibility team will do their best but the ownership relies on the product teamThe accessibility team will do their best but the ownership relies on the product team.

My experience is the part

On 16 Jun 2020, at 12:23 am, Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@kutakrock.com> wrote:
All:

I know at least one other member of this list is a Jabber user. Jabber, a Cisco softphone product, is really wonderful and is mostly accessible. When office phones are not accessible or only marginally accessible, Jabber really helps, and because it is a Cisco product, the IT departments in large companies do not push back--as they do with programs having less recognized pedigrees. Jabber is even more important now that many, if not most, of us are working primarily from our home offices.
NVDA works quite well with Jabber on 95% of the calling features; however, it does not give the "STATUS" of the person being called, and it does not work well with Jabber's live chat feature.
JAWS handles these features fine, but JAWS is so bloated and so slow that our key application, a document management system, nearly chokes with JAWS running.
Once there was a Jabber add-in for NVDA, but it did not help with the above features.
Any assistance would be appreciated.





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CodeFactory eloquence won't start anymore

Vincent Le Goff <vincent.legoff.srs@...>
 

Hello everyone,


I don't know if I should write here, but it's mostly to see if others had this issue.  Perhaps I was unlucky.  I often am with technology.


So I purchased CodeFactory eloquence and it worked well... until it didn't.  Now my profile with Eloquence in it won't start.  When selecting it I have a dialog telling me that CodeFactory will open settings to check registration.  I say okay and yes when Windows asks me if this software should be allowed to perform admin tasks.  The settings open... but on clicking on ok I get a simple error: couldn't load synthesizer.  This happens if I select the speech synthesizer in NVDA's settings as well.


So I would guess: not an NVDA bug, most likely a CodeFactory bug.  Still, as far as I know, things worked great before the update of the last NVDA version (I'm running on 2020.1 now).  Then again, it can hardly be a Python version error, since I don't expect major changes took place in Python version between these NVDA versions.


Has anyone experienced similar issues?  And found a quick fix?  I like quick fixes... if they hold.


Thanks!


Vincent


Re: How Do I Stop the NVDA Updater from Monitoring Specific Addons?

Kenny <kwashingtonbox@...>
 

Thanks Joseph for clearing the mystery up for me. It's really no big deal. I just disabled the Updater from monitoring the two add-ons in question. All is well again.


On 6/16/2020 3:41 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi Kenny,

Part of the reason is that the add-ons community did not receive a notice from Tony about new versions of his add-ons. Also, unless requested by add-on authors, there are no separate development releases channel for add-ons.

There are two other reasons:

  1. There is (or was) a huge discussion in the add-ons community about modernizing add-on release workflow and related materials. In the old days, add-ons workflow was intimately tied to NVDA translations, and NV Access people had a hard time maintaining the original version of this workflow (things have improved in recent months somewhat through communication between the original author of this workflow and NV Access staff). However, since the bulk of maintaining add-ons and translations workflow was carried out by people outside of NV Access through NV Access facility, it was felt that, for security reasons and for maintenance, NV Access staff decided to think about modernizing all this. Add-on Updater is merely the first step of this process, and if things go well, there will come a day when I can quietly retire from NVDA development after donating Add-on Updater code to NV Access.
  2. The person responsible for majority of add-on update metadata maintenance (yours truly) is away from his office at the moment for various reasons (mental health and academics being the highest of highest of priorities). For this reason, there is a delay between when an add-on author publishes an announcement about updated add-ons and when they will show up via Add-on Updater. I will indeed return to actively manage add-on update publishing in a few weeks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: my bluetooth headset doesn't pick up the first little bit of what nvda is saying?

Gene
 

If you don't have extract all, something may have removed it. 7Zip is a good alternative.

Gene

----- Original Message -----
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 11:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] my bluetooth headset doesn't pick up the first little bit of what nvda is saying?

Here is a Send Space link to the utility. As I recall, you press enter on
the file and that's all.

If you are a free user of Send Space, to download safely, it is very
important to do the following:
Find the download button. Don't activate it.
Open the context menu. Find whatever your browser calls save target as. It
may be save link as or something else.
Press enter. A save dialog will open and save the file as you would with
any standard save as dialog.

Send Space shows advertising for free users. It may be hacked and it may
try to download malware to your machine. This method of saving prevents
that. It usually won't work on buttons but it works here because even
though it looks like a button, it is really a link.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 5:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] my bluetooth headset doesn't pick up the first little
bit of what nvda is saying?

You might be able to keep the headset active if you use a utility called
something like Silence. I don't know if you can find it on the Internet,
but I'll send a link to it on my Dropbox account. It keeps things active
that turn off automatically like some sound cards and some portable
speakers. You will have to see if it works with Blue Tooth speakers. I
haven't used Blue Tooth Enough to know.

I'll send the link soon.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Luke Davis
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 3:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] my bluetooth headset doesn't pick up the first little
bit of what nvda is saying?

On Mon, 15 Jun 2020, Norman wrote:

That works. Seems there has to be a better solution though.
There isn't. Bluetooth is not really expected to be used for short bursts of
noise. It is expected (by manufacturers) that it will be used for music,
videos,
etc. You don't really care if you miss the first couple ms of a sound, if
the
sound is three minutes long.
There probably isn't much content in that first few ms, and you can always
rewind if there is.

They don't expect there to be periodic speech synthesis coming through the
devices.
In the case where they do expect that, such as on a phone call, the phone
call
has enough of a natural noise floor to keep the amplification active, so
it's
not a problem.

Some manufacturers handle this better than others, but quite many
of them prioritize power savings over that first few ms of sound.

It costs power, and therefore battery life, to keep the audio path open,
amplified, and ready for action at all times.

The only way to fix this problem, is to keep the bluetooth device in an
awake
state. The only way you can do that, for these manufacturers which don't use
gate circuits with a fast enough response, or for some other reason take
long
enough to power up that you miss words, is to send some constant sound to
them.
That's what the Bluetooth Audio add-on does: it sends a noise floor at a
high
enough level that the bluetooth device stays active longer, and so you don't
miss any speech.

Don't use it if your tooth device handles speech without difficulty. Do use
it
if it doesn't.

Luke


Re: my bluetooth headset doesn't pick up the first little bit of what nvda is saying?

Gene
 

Here is a Send Space link to the utility. As I recall, you press enter on the file and that's all.

If you are a free user of Send Space, to download safely, it is very important to do the following:
Find the download button. Don't activate it.
Open the context menu. Find whatever your browser calls save target as. It may be save link as or something else.
Press enter. A save dialog will open and save the file as you would with any standard save as dialog.

Send Space shows advertising for free users. It may be hacked and it may try to download malware to your machine. This method of saving prevents that. It usually won't work on buttons but it works here because even though it looks like a button, it is really a link.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Gene via groups.io
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 5:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] my bluetooth headset doesn't pick up the first little bit of what nvda is saying?

You might be able to keep the headset active if you use a utility called
something like Silence. I don't know if you can find it on the Internet,
but I'll send a link to it on my Dropbox account. It keeps things active
that turn off automatically like some sound cards and some portable
speakers. You will have to see if it works with Blue Tooth speakers. I
haven't used Blue Tooth Enough to know.

I'll send the link soon.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Luke Davis
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 3:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] my bluetooth headset doesn't pick up the first little
bit of what nvda is saying?

On Mon, 15 Jun 2020, Norman wrote:

That works. Seems there has to be a better solution though.
There isn't. Bluetooth is not really expected to be used for short bursts of
noise. It is expected (by manufacturers) that it will be used for music,
videos,
etc. You don't really care if you miss the first couple ms of a sound, if
the
sound is three minutes long.
There probably isn't much content in that first few ms, and you can always
rewind if there is.

They don't expect there to be periodic speech synthesis coming through the
devices.
In the case where they do expect that, such as on a phone call, the phone
call
has enough of a natural noise floor to keep the amplification active, so
it's
not a problem.

Some manufacturers handle this better than others, but quite many
of them prioritize power savings over that first few ms of sound.

It costs power, and therefore battery life, to keep the audio path open,
amplified, and ready for action at all times.

The only way to fix this problem, is to keep the bluetooth device in an
awake
state. The only way you can do that, for these manufacturers which don't use
gate circuits with a fast enough response, or for some other reason take
long
enough to power up that you miss words, is to send some constant sound to
them.
That's what the Bluetooth Audio add-on does: it sends a noise floor at a
high
enough level that the bluetooth device stays active longer, and so you don't
miss any speech.

Don't use it if your tooth device handles speech without difficulty. Do use
it
if it doesn't.

Luke


seika6 display braille, why no driver?

Simone Dal Maso
 

Hello,
the situation for Seika Display Braille is quite strange on my opinion.
Now, for Seika until version5, users should use an external addon, since from 2019.3 NVDA is not able to recognize properly the display braille.
For seika6, the situation is different because there are no addons and NVDA is not able to initialize the display.
I think that NVDA should be able to manage Seika Display Braille... do you have some hints or ideas about this?


Re: remote servers

larry k <sir-laurence@...>
 

I'm on a private network.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mobeen Iqbal
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 6:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] remote servers

Hi.

I can access nvdaremote.com fine from here. Are you on a corporate or
work network? It could be that the other JC server is down.

Cheers,

Mo.


On 16/06/2020 13:54, larry k wrote:
you know, I just said what I got. I was using the jc hosting site successfully and after about 3 days, now I just get an error.
I didn't change anything.
I'm just trying to figure out what happened and how to go on from here.


-----Original Message----- From: Luke Davis
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] remote servers

On Tue, 16 Jun 2020, mattias wrote:

NVDA remote addon has allways been crap
If you are behind a router no go
Everyone I know who uses NVDA Remote add-on, including me, uses it from behind a
router. It is almost impossible to find a network that doesn't use a router and
a firewall of some sort.
Without changing anything on my routers at all (yes, several routers), I have
connected to people across the room and across the country, usually with no
trouble at all.

Rather than making outlandish statements, why not describe a situation, with
specifics, where you've had problems, and people can help you figure out how to
get around the problems, rather than making statements that are demonstrably
false given all the people who daily use the add-on.

Luke







Re: remote servers

Mobeen Iqbal
 

Hi.

I can access nvdaremote.com fine from here. Are you on a corporate or work network? It could be that the other JC server is down.

Cheers,

Mo.

On 16/06/2020 13:54, larry k wrote:
you know, I just said what I got. I was using the jc hosting site successfully and after about 3 days, now I just get an error.
I didn't change anything.
I'm just trying to figure out what happened and how to go on from here.


-----Original Message----- From: Luke Davis
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] remote servers

On Tue, 16 Jun 2020, mattias wrote:

NVDA remote addon has allways been crap
If you are behind a router no go
Everyone I know who uses NVDA Remote add-on, including me, uses it from behind a
router. It is almost impossible to find a network that doesn't use a router and
a firewall of some sort.
Without changing anything on my routers at all (yes, several routers), I have
connected to people across the room and across the country, usually with no
trouble at all.

Rather than making outlandish statements, why not describe a situation, with
specifics, where you've had problems, and people can help you figure out how to
get around the problems, rather than making statements that are demonstrably
false given all the people who daily use the add-on.

Luke






Re: remote servers

larry k <sir-laurence@...>
 

you know, I just said what I got. I was using the jc hosting site successfully and after about 3 days, now I just get an error.
I didn't change anything.
I'm just trying to figure out what happened and how to go on from here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Luke Davis
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2020 1:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] remote servers

On Tue, 16 Jun 2020, mattias wrote:

NVDA remote addon has allways been crap
If you are behind a router no go
Everyone I know who uses NVDA Remote add-on, including me, uses it from behind a
router. It is almost impossible to find a network that doesn't use a router and
a firewall of some sort.
Without changing anything on my routers at all (yes, several routers), I have
connected to people across the room and across the country, usually with no
trouble at all.

Rather than making outlandish statements, why not describe a situation, with
specifics, where you've had problems, and people can help you figure out how to
get around the problems, rather than making statements that are demonstrably
false given all the people who daily use the add-on.

Luke


Re: NVDA and Jabber

Sean Murphy
 

Shawn

when I used to work for Cisco, I supported the jabber application for accessibility. The last version I worked on was 12.7. Hence I have a far deeper knowledge than yourself and most people on this list. You just can’t upgrade such an application without your IT department support. Your comment on just upgrade to the latest version is very misplaced and clearly indicates you don’t have a full understanding on how enterprise applications work

Cisco‘s long-term is to remove the requirement of having any form of scripts or plug-ins for Windows screen readers.

Sean



My experience is the part

On 16 Jun 2020, at 8:13 pm, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:

Hmmm well obviously first you should get the latest update and try again if you are not updated.



On 16/06/2020 10:10 pm, Sean Murphy wrote:
I used to work for Cisco Systems in the accessibility team. Jabber version 12.1 and 4.0 support NVDA JabbJabber version 12.5 and later does not really supportnvda Jabber 12.7 and later I suspect the level of support has improved. Jabber 12.7 has a major uplift where you do not require Jaws scrips There are still some gaps here as well. I do not know about any later versions. My suggestion is send your complaints tMy suggestion is send your complaints to Cisco Be vebe very loud about it. The accessibility team will do their best but the ownership relies on the product teamThe accessibility team will do their best but the ownership relies on the product team.

My experience is the part

On 16 Jun 2020, at 12:23 am, Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@kutakrock.com> wrote:
All:

I know at least one other member of this list is a Jabber user. Jabber, a Cisco softphone product, is really wonderful and is mostly accessible. When office phones are not accessible or only marginally accessible, Jabber really helps, and because it is a Cisco product, the IT departments in large companies do not push back--as they do with programs having less recognized pedigrees. Jabber is even more important now that many, if not most, of us are working primarily from our home offices.
NVDA works quite well with Jabber on 95% of the calling features; however, it does not give the "STATUS" of the person being called, and it does not work well with Jabber's live chat feature.
JAWS handles these features fine, but JAWS is so bloated and so slow that our key application, a document management system, nearly chokes with JAWS running.
Once there was a Jabber add-in for NVDA, but it did not help with the above features.
Any assistance would be appreciated.





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Re: NVDA and Jabber

 

Hmmm well obviously first you should get the latest update and try again if you are not updated.

On 16/06/2020 10:10 pm, Sean Murphy wrote:
I used to work for Cisco Systems in the accessibility team. Jabber version 12.1 and 4.0 support NVDA JabbJabber version 12.5 and later does not really supportnvda Jabber 12.7 and later I suspect the level of support has improved. Jabber 12.7 has a major uplift where you do not require Jaws scrips There are still some gaps here as well. I do not know about any later versions. My suggestion is send your complaints tMy suggestion is send your complaints to Cisco Be vebe very loud about it. The accessibility team will do their best but the ownership relies on the product teamThe accessibility team will do their best but the ownership relies on the product team.

My experience is the part

On 16 Jun 2020, at 12:23 am, Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@kutakrock.com> wrote:

All:

I know at least one other member of this list is a Jabber user. Jabber, a Cisco softphone product, is really wonderful and is mostly accessible. When office phones are not accessible or only marginally accessible, Jabber really helps, and because it is a Cisco product, the IT departments in large companies do not push back--as they do with programs having less recognized pedigrees. Jabber is even more important now that many, if not most, of us are working primarily from our home offices.
NVDA works quite well with Jabber on 95% of the calling features; however, it does not give the "STATUS" of the person being called, and it does not work well with Jabber's live chat feature.
JAWS handles these features fine, but JAWS is so bloated and so slow that our key application, a document management system, nearly chokes with JAWS running.
Once there was a Jabber add-in for NVDA, but it did not help with the above features.
Any assistance would be appreciated.





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Re: NVDA and Jabber

Sean Murphy
 

I used to work for Cisco Systems in the accessibility team. Jabber version 12.1 and 4.0 support NVDA JabbJabber version 12.5 and later does not really supportnvda Jabber 12.7 and later I suspect the level of support has improved. Jabber 12.7 has a major uplift where you do not require Jaws scrips There are still some gaps here as well. I do not know about any later versions. My suggestion is send your complaints tMy suggestion is send your complaints to Cisco Be vebe very loud about it. The accessibility team will do their best but the ownership relies on the product teamThe accessibility team will do their best but the ownership relies on the product team.

My experience is the part

On 16 Jun 2020, at 12:23 am, Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@kutakrock.com> wrote:

All:

I know at least one other member of this list is a Jabber user. Jabber, a Cisco softphone product, is really wonderful and is mostly accessible. When office phones are not accessible or only marginally accessible, Jabber really helps, and because it is a Cisco product, the IT departments in large companies do not push back--as they do with programs having less recognized pedigrees. Jabber is even more important now that many, if not most, of us are working primarily from our home offices.
NVDA works quite well with Jabber on 95% of the calling features; however, it does not give the "STATUS" of the person being called, and it does not work well with Jabber's live chat feature.
JAWS handles these features fine, but JAWS is so bloated and so slow that our key application, a document management system, nearly chokes with JAWS running.
Once there was a Jabber add-in for NVDA, but it did not help with the above features.
Any assistance would be appreciated.





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Re: Nvda and Office 2016

Jarek.Krcmar
 

Hi Quentyn,

I had to uninstall and install Nvda again, because when I started word, nothing sound has been heard.

After reinstalling Nvda is OK.


Jarek
Dne 12.06.2020 v 2:04 Quentin Christensen napsal(a):

If you press NVDA+N, then T, there is an option there in the Tools menu called "Run COM Registration fixing tool".  That can help in some situations.  Usually it's more when everything reports "unknown" but it could be worth a try here.

Otherwise, could you have any add-ons in Microsoft Office which might be stealing focus to an invisible window on startup?  I know DropBox was doing that at one point.  Some Anti-Virus programs have in the past as well.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 7:16 AM David Goldfield <david.goldfield@...> wrote:
I have occasionally encountered this problem and not just with NVDA as
the screen reader. The alt-tab solution will certainly work. However,
what usually works for me is to press the alt key twice. The first press
will move focus to the ribbon and the second press returns focus to the
document window and speech should behave as expected. The bottom line is
that you want to move focus away from and then back to the document
window. Alt-tab certainly does this but pressing either the alt or the
Windows key twice will do the same thing and may be a tad easier and
quicker.


On 6/11/2020 11:46 AM, zahra wrote:
> did you try alt tab to go to another application, and alt tab again
> for returning to your desired program?
> i face this issue many times in firefox and alt tab solution work for me.
>
> On 6/11/20, Jarek.Krcmar <Jarek.Krcmar@...> wrote:
>> Hello group,
>>
>> I have Nvda 2020 and Office 2016.
>>
>> I have found a problem.
>>
>> After starting word or excel, Nvda is silent.
>>
>> I would like to know, where is an error.
>>
>> Do you have an idea, please?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Jarek
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>





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Re: remote servers

Luke Davis
 

On Tue, 16 Jun 2020, mattias wrote:

NVDA remote addon has allways been crap
If you are behind a router no go
Everyone I know who uses NVDA Remote add-on, including me, uses it from behind a router. It is almost impossible to find a network that doesn't use a router and a firewall of some sort.
Without changing anything on my routers at all (yes, several routers), I have connected to people across the room and across the country, usually with no trouble at all.

Rather than making outlandish statements, why not describe a situation, with specifics, where you've had problems, and people can help you figure out how to get around the problems, rather than making statements that are demonstrably false given all the people who daily use the add-on.

Luke


Re: How Do I Stop the NVDA Updater from Monitoring Specific Addons?

 

Hi Kenny,

Part of the reason is that the add-ons community did not receive a notice from Tony about new versions of his add-ons. Also, unless requested by add-on authors, there are no separate development releases channel for add-ons.

There are two other reasons:

  1. There is (or was) a huge discussion in the add-ons community about modernizing add-on release workflow and related materials. In the old days, add-ons workflow was intimately tied to NVDA translations, and NV Access people had a hard time maintaining the original version of this workflow (things have improved in recent months somewhat through communication between the original author of this workflow and NV Access staff). However, since the bulk of maintaining add-ons and translations workflow was carried out by people outside of NV Access through NV Access facility, it was felt that, for security reasons and for maintenance, NV Access staff decided to think about modernizing all this. Add-on Updater is merely the first step of this process, and if things go well, there will come a day when I can quietly retire from NVDA development after donating Add-on Updater code to NV Access.
  2. The person responsible for majority of add-on update metadata maintenance (yours truly) is away from his office at the moment for various reasons (mental health and academics being the highest of highest of priorities). For this reason, there is a delay between when an add-on author publishes an announcement about updated add-ons and when they will show up via Add-on Updater. I will indeed return to actively manage add-on update publishing in a few weeks.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: remote servers

mattias
 

NVDA remote addon has allways been crap

If you are behind a router no go

Trust me i have tryed

 

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Från: larry k
Skickat: den 16 juni 2020 03:50
Till: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Ämne: [nvda] remote servers

 

I tried to connect to the remote server, j c host, and then I tried to connect to the default remote server. in both cases, I got a can not connect to the remote computer. and all I had was o ik to press.
where is there a list of remote servers? larry

 

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