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Re: NVDA and express vpn
I used Express VPN for the year between September 2018 and 2019 while I was living in a uni hall of residence so wanted to minimise any potential wifi snooping.
I found Express VPN very hard to use with NVDA. I figured out which button to press to turn the VPN on (none of the buttons are spoken as anything other than "button") and I could hear the label next to the switch network .... but it never gave me any alternative VPN networks other than the one it was connected to ... maybe it did list other networks but didn't speak them ... whatever the reason Express VPN worked as far as connecting to one single VPN network, but nothing at all more than that. I haven't tried using a VPN since the Express VPN experience, but do read any posts about them on here in case something easy to use does get suggested :) Giles
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Re: Alternatives to Excel
Hmmm firstly do you still have your old excell licence key or office licence key at all?
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Do you have your office cd at all? You probably can get that back, however be aware that office 2007 I think is about to be out of support. I have used libre office on a cloud system and its worked well enough. You can always buy another office, either a so called recycled key from ebay and take the risk that its fake, get into the office home program if working in a company I think its called home use, or simply buy office. Right now, I think you still can buy office versions 2013 and up and while 2019 the latest is best they still update 2016 regularly. The support and updates on 2013 that I have on another system are getting less but still it can be done. There is office 365 to subscribe to if you are looking to that point and if you run the office program in windows you can get it. I havn't used openoffice extensively enough to know if it or libre will work for your needs or not. I have used libre as part of a home solution and it does for the most part seem to work well. Office online may be another option for you, I am not sure how well that works.
On 16/01/2020 12:43 am, Chris Mullins wrote:
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Re: a question about the new edge browser
Hareth
It hasn't been bundled with windows update as expected here.
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had to look for it and found the online installer from the stable channel link, It did replace the old ugly edge. Here is the URL: https://c2rsetup.officeapps.live.com/c2r/downloadEdge.aspx?ProductreleaseID=Edge&;platform=Default&version=Edge&source=EdgeInsiderPage&Channel=Stable&language=en
On 1/15/20, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
To be honest I am happy they didn't role all of it out today.
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Re: Dropbox interfering with NVDA when reading Word files
Clive Lever
Thanks,
I’ll give that a go and report back.
Best, Clive
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 10:15 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox interfering with NVDA when reading Word files
Not at all stupid Clive.
First of all Windows plus B to get to the notification area / system tray. If you hear notification chevron you should press space on that to open up all your system tray icons to view. You can change settings so that your icons all show all the time but I will give instructions for that in another email if needed. Now cursor left or right until you hear DropBox. If for whatever reason you miss this and hear notification chevron again then press space on this to make sure all your icons are showing. As soon as you hear DropBox press the space bar. This should open up the context menu in DropBox’s case – it does on my system. From this menu select preferences. Tab down to the section where it talks about badges and set this to never show and your problems with opening Office documents should disappear.
N>B A regrettable feature of the system tray in Windows is that the key to open up the context menu varies. Sometimes it is enter, sometimes it is space as in this case and sometimes it is the application key. You need to experiment with each icon to see what works. David Griffith
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Clive Lever
Thanks David,
It always sounds stupid, but how do I get to Dropbox in the system tray?
Thanks, Clive
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
I don’t know if my original suggestion ever got posted but this problem disappeared for me when I went to DropBox preferences in the system tray and turned badges notifications to never show in the General tab.
I have never, since doing this, had had any issue opening Office Files of any kind in my DropBox under Windows.
I mention this again as it seems not to have been discussed as an obvious solution despite my trying to post it yesterday. David Griffith From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Shaun, I'm having the same issue as Clive. I usually open files directly in Word, no matter where they are. I still have this issue with files in Dropbox whether I'm opening them there or in Word. Fortunately, I don't need those files in Dropbox, so I've moved them to a different location.
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Help getting NVDA to read descriptions of elements in SVGs
Paddy Uglow <paddy.uglow@...>
Hi, This is my first post here – I develop learning resources for a university and we want to make them NVDA-friendly.
I’m currently working on a decision tree, which can be seen here: https://www.creativemedia.org.uk/interactive-trees/filtration-tryout.html
I want to add an invisible description to each node on the tree to help NVDA users navigate. Below is part of the SVG (Scalable Vector Graphic) from the page: I’ve used the aria-label tag to explain where the node fits in the tree, but my NVDA doesn’t read it out. I’ve also tried title, alt and label in various places but they don’t get read out either. Can anyone give me any hints or solutions? All I can think of is to use a hidden <div> which I don’t think is an ideal solution. Thank you
<svg width="950" height="800"> <g class="node" transform="translate(697.5,95)"> <foreignObject tabindex="0" focusable="true" height="48" aria-label="Option for choice, 'An example of a decision tree.'" width="110" x="-55" class="nodestyle">Keep liquid</foreignObject> </g> </svg>
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Re: Accessible password managers, again.
FireFox is one of your best bets, but if you need to manually export your passwords for whatever reason, that's not easy to do. It is accessible though, and can generate strong passwords but I've never gotten FireFox's generator to work with the keyboard. Managing passwords is accessible, though. Chromium Edge is far better at doing this, in all aspects, though.
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Re: State of the NvDA Remote add-on: NV Access sent patches to add-on authors
Salvador Domenech Miguel
Oh yas. Thank you so much, because is an add-on really interesting for people who gives support and something like that.
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Cheers.
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Re: State of the NvDA Remote add-on: NV Access sent patches to add-on authors
Kara Goldfinch
Joseph, This is fantastic news. Thanks for letting us all know. Kara
On 14/01/2020 23:36, Joseph Lee wrote:
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Re: Alternatives to Excel
cecropia64
hi:
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open office is also a good alternative. works very well and more or less replaces Microsoft Office. Doesn't have all the bells and whistles but if you just want spread sheetts and documents, it works well.
On 1/15/2020 6:53 AM, René Linke wrote:
Hi,
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Re: Alternatives to Excel
René Linke <rene.linke@...>
Hi,
LibreOffice is now very accessible because it is getting many updates in short time (improvements, security fixes, etc.). René
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Alternatives to Excel
Chris Mullins
Hi
A hard disk crash has seen off my copy of Excel 2007 so I'm looking for an alternative amongst Open Office, Libra Office and Google. Are there any NVDA users out there that could give me feedback regarding the accessibility of these products and whether I could still access my existing Excel format spreadsheets with any or all of them? Your advice would be greatly appreciated. Cheers Chris
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Re: NVDA and express vpn
Vlad Dragomir
Hello,
The Windows app isn't accessible at all, and I truly mean it when I say so. The android version is better, it does have some issues but they are not essential. On the other hand, the service is of a very good quality. My work around is to connect manually on Windows, without using their software. Regards, Vlad.
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Re: Excel and VBa 2010 Questions
Pele West
Hi chris
Thanks for writing and confirming that I am not going mad. JAWS and Window-Eyes do not seem to have this problem with VBA code. I really don't want to have to copy the code to Notepad unless I have to. Pele
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Re: Dropbox interfering with NVDA when reading Word files
David Griffith
Not at all stupid Clive.
First of all Windows plus B to get to the notification area / system tray. If you hear notification chevron you should press space on that to open up all your system tray icons to view. You can change settings so that your icons all show all the time but I will give instructions for that in another email if needed. Now cursor left or right until you hear DropBox. If for whatever reason you miss this and hear notification chevron again then press space on this to make sure all your icons are showing. As soon as you hear DropBox press the space bar. This should open up the context menu in DropBox’s case – it does on my system. From this menu select preferences. Tab down to the section where it talks about badges and set this to never show and your problems with opening Office documents should disappear.
N>B A regrettable feature of the system tray in Windows is that the key to open up the context menu varies. Sometimes it is enter, sometimes it is space as in this case and sometimes it is the application key. You need to experiment with each icon to see what works. David Griffith
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Clive Lever
Sent: 15 January 2020 00:21 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox interfering with NVDA when reading Word files
Thanks David,
It always sounds stupid, but how do I get to Dropbox in the system tray?
Thanks, Clive
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
I don’t know if my original suggestion ever got posted but this problem disappeared for me when I went to DropBox preferences in the system tray and turned badges notifications to never show in the General tab.
I have never, since doing this, had had any issue opening Office Files of any kind in my DropBox under Windows.
I mention this again as it seems not to have been discussed as an obvious solution despite my trying to post it yesterday. David Griffith From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Shaun, I'm having the same issue as Clive. I usually open files directly in Word, no matter where they are. I still have this issue with files in Dropbox whether I'm opening them there or in Word. Fortunately, I don't need those files in Dropbox, so I've moved them to a different location.
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Re: Elementary Question I'm afraid: How do I access the toolbars on screen with NVDA?
Jacob Kruger
Toolbars explorer add-on?
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/toolbarsExplorer.en.html Jacob Kruger Blind Biker Skype: BlindZA "...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2020-01-15 06:14 AM, Gene wrote:
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Re: Elementary Question I'm afraid: How do I access the toolbars on screen with NVDA?
Mobeen Iqbal
Hi Clive. It depends which program you're in, what toolbars are present and what you would like to do. For example, there is a scanning program that you cannot operate unless you access the toolbars as there is no menu bar. But word has toolbars that people seldom need. So the question is do you need to access the toolbars? if so, what program are you trying to access? Cheers, Mo.
On 15/01/2020 00:37, Clive Lever wrote:
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Re: State of the NvDA Remote add-on: NV Access sent patches to add-on authors
Hareth
No. Jaws tandem is a problem for a lot of corporations and offices.
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Or that's at least what they believe. That's why FS have created a way for customized non tandem installers.
On 1/15/20, Lenron <lenron93@gmail.com> wrote:
It's insane after all jaws has remote and it's not a problem.
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Re: State of the NvDA Remote add-on: NV Access sent patches to add-on authors
hurrikennyandopo ...
So then I guess in short from a network admin would be is there a way to lock down the remote add on if it becomes part of nvda for security risk? or will it be safe as only when nvda is running it can be used then.
I guess you have to look at it from a network admin point of view. I think they can have it so add ons can not be installed etc if they do not want people to use them. if it does not become part of NVDA and only get added in certain cases to do work with I guess we will see before long.
Gene nz
On 15/01/2020 5:15 pm, hurrikennyandopo
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Re: Elementary Question I'm afraid: How do I access the toolbars on screen with NVDA?
hi. I wish to preempt the following with the following statement. After my conduct on the windows list I am trying to be a little less abrupt. I am not sure how important toolbars are currently. I know that for a long time from windows 95 through to xp and even 7, toolbars had stuff on them that were found in menus and were conciddered by me and others as just clutter and you just turned them off. I have however heard conflicting things that they actually may actually be usefull but never use them myself. Most stuff is in a menu or ribbon or something. Then again I have never found something that I have really needed a toolbar before. I know there is a toolbars explorer addon and while I have had it installed I have yet to need a toolbar of any sort as such. Saying that, I have tweaks to menuise as much of the windows shell as I can, and everything I use like thunderbird I never need to access a bar bar status. With status itself in the traditional form changing, I am unsure how true it is for any bar in any program if its got a use or not. With a lot of things being web based especially with chromium type deals its probable we actually won't need a toolbar, at least not generally, I mean never say never but there are things we didn't need in the past, either through access or they didn't exist before and we got on without them. For example I never needed to login with an account and can get round with an apps account, then again I don't use all services and whatever, however there are always different ways of accessing windows even if microsoft wants you to do something else. Thats true of other companies to. The same is with toolbars. I have never needed to use one but it doesn't mean others may use them. I havn't needed to care if a command exists or not, but I will hold off judgement on if we need one or not. I have honestly never looked into that sort of thing and I most like never will unless it is something I frequently need.
On 15/01/2020 5:14 pm, Gene wrote:
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Re: State of the NvDA Remote add-on: NV Access sent patches to add-on authors
hurrikennyandopo ...
Hi
Out of curiosity most installs of jaws I have seen are not on a huge network There might be lone machines I mean only a copy on one pc out of all of them on a network.
If so have they got it so the remote add on will not work on a huge network or some how have it disabled. I mean as in there version of the addon tandam. Or are they happy to let the person use a tandam remote part of jaws?
The reason I ask this is here in new Zealand the 3 large networks which are library networks have nvda installed on all of there computers. The APN K network 750 computers.Christ church libraries 390 computers Auckland libraries 600 computers all with nvda on them.
So I would be guessing they would have to lock down the remote add on some how if it was installed into nvda you would say for security purposes. I know if nvda is not running then it does not matter.
I guess we will have to wait and see what happens.
home use etc does not matter but a large network might and might be one of the questions from them to know how to do it if part of NVDA.
Gene nz
On 15/01/2020 2:02 pm, Sarah k Alawami
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