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Re: State of the NvDA Remote add-on: NV Access sent patches to add-on authors

Mark <marktyler2014@...>
 

I agree 100% as team leader of a tech team we use nvda remote all the time

Mark.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 15 January 2020 01:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] State of the NvDA Remote add-on: NV Access sent patches to add-on authors

 

Agreed. I still don't understand why it is not added to core. After all we have jaws tandem and no one complains about it. So why not nvda remote in nvda itself? This would be useful for us personal helpers too. I hear that feedback all the time on the phone, or on twitter etc.

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On 14 Jan 2020, at 16:35, Robert Kingett wrote:

This is the beauty of open source software. I only wish this could be added to the core without non profits and government people freaking out about it. I'm beyond happy this is an open source project. The add on, and the screen reader. I also, of course, understand why many see this add on as a possible security risk. While I don't think the same way, I can understand the need for high security assurance. Could multiple people from the NVDA community be in charge of that github page so they could review and merge changes if the developers become completely tired of it in the future?

 


Re: State of the NvDA Remote add-on: NV Access sent patches to add-on authors

Sarah k Alawami
 

Agreed. I still don't understand why it is not added to core. After all we have jaws tandem and no one complains about it. So why not nvda remote in nvda itself? This would be useful for us personal helpers too. I hear that feedback all the time on the phone, or on twitter etc.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 14 Jan 2020, at 16:35, Robert Kingett wrote:

This is the beauty of open source software. I only wish this could be added to the core without non profits and government people freaking out about it. I'm beyond happy this is an open source project. The add on, and the screen reader. I also, of course, understand why many see this add on as a possible security risk. While I don't think the same way, I can understand the need for high security assurance. Could multiple people from the NVDA community be in charge of that github page so they could review and merge changes if the developers become completely tired of it in the future?


Re: NVDA 2019.3 beta 2 now available

 

Hi,

As part of NVDA’s UIA support, a set of bad UIA class names is kept to inform NVDA that windows with class names in that list should not be treated as UIA elements, thus forcing NVDA to switch to MSAA/IAccessible support. Even though UIA is used in Edge 79 Chromium-based), it is not that solid yet, so NVDA 2019.3 will force IAccessible2 mode, which works better (this is done by adding Chromium UIA widget window class name to the aforementioned set of bad UIA class names).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Kingett
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 4:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 beta 2 now available

 

I'm extremely confused. If the new Edge uses Chromium by default, how can NVDA work with Edge at all if that option has been removed from the NVDA settings? Darn you, Microsoft! Why couldn't you at least help JAWS, NVDA, etc. Build in UIA? This seems like a huge blunder on Microsoft's part, no? They have more man power, so either, help screen readers work with UIA, or disable it in the new Edge by default.


Re: Dropbox interfering with NVDA when reading Word files

 

Hmmm I think you can change in dropbox settings online or is it in the client forget where though I was there yesterday.

Anyway you can tell dropbox to not take over viewing stuff in its viewer.



On 15/01/2020 12:30 pm, Abbie Taylor wrote:
Shaun, I'm having the same issue as Clive. I usually open files directly in Word, no matter where they are. I still have this issue with files in Dropbox whether I'm opening them  there or in Word. Fortunately, I don't need those files in Dropbox, so I've moved them to a different location.
--
Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@...


Re: NVDA 2019.3 beta 2 now available

 

I'm extremely confused. If the new Edge uses Chromium by default, how can NVDA work with Edge at all if that option has been removed from the NVDA settings? Darn you, Microsoft! Why couldn't you at least help JAWS, NVDA, etc. Build in UIA? This seems like a huge blunder on Microsoft's part, no? They have more man power, so either, help screen readers work with UIA, or disable it in the new Edge by default.


Elementary Question I'm afraid: How do I access the toolbars on screen with NVDA?

Clive Lever
 

Hi all,

 

The subject line says it all. I apologise that this is probably an elementary question. I’m asking because I’ve only recently started using NVDA as my main Screenreader, and Jaws as secondary (only when I have to). Until recently I prioritised them the other way round.

 

Thanks,

Clive

 

 


Re: State of the NvDA Remote add-on: NV Access sent patches to add-on authors

 

This is the beauty of open source software. I only wish this could be added to the core without non profits and government people freaking out about it. I'm beyond happy this is an open source project. The add on, and the screen reader. I also, of course, understand why many see this add on as a possible security risk. While I don't think the same way, I can understand the need for high security assurance. Could multiple people from the NVDA community be in charge of that github page so they could review and merge changes if the developers become completely tired of it in the future?


Re: Excel and VBa 2010 Questions

 

Hmmm, yes, its not like I have heard microsoft saying otherwise.

Vba is how they make macros so if you look about as I say, then they probably do but I have never used vba in my life.

On 14/01/2020 10:27 pm, Pele West wrote:
Hi Shaun

Thanks. Do later versions of Office still include VBA?

Pele



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Re: State of the NvDA Remote add-on: NV Access sent patches to add-on authors

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Joseph,


That's great news Joseph! I think the community will happy to hear it!

Hopefully it should stop the same question coming up now about when it will be ready. Looking forward to it working with NVDA 2019.3 when it comes out!


Regards,

Gene NZ


On 15/01/2020 12:36 pm, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hello NVDA users, especially NVDA Remote add-on fans:

 

For the last few months, many of you were wondering about what’s going on with NVDA Remote add-on, which isn’t compatible with upcoming NVDA 2019.3. I’m delighted to announce that something is indeed happening with the add-on. According to Reef Turner, an NV Access staff and NVDA developer, NV Access people just sent a series of patches to Remote add-on developers to make the add-on ready for NVDA 2019.3.

Stay tuned for updates on this front.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Dropbox interfering with NVDA when reading Word files

Clive Lever
 

Thanks David,

 

It always sounds stupid, but how do I get to Dropbox in the system tray?

 

Thanks,

Clive

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2020 12:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox interfering with NVDA when reading Word files

 

 

I don’t know if my original suggestion  ever got posted but this  problem disappeared for  me when I went to DropBox preferences in the system tray and turned badges notifications to never show in the General tab.

 

I have never, since  doing this, had had any issue opening Office Files of any kind in my DropBox under Windows.

 

I mention this again as it seems not to have been discussed as an obvious solution despite my trying to post it yesterday.

David Griffith

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: 14 January 2020 23:31
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox interfering with NVDA when reading Word files

 

Shaun, I'm having the same issue as Clive. I usually open files directly in Word, no matter where they are. I still have this issue with files in Dropbox whether I'm opening them  there or in Word. Fortunately, I don't need those files in Dropbox, so I've moved them to a different location.
--
Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@...


Re: Dropbox interfering with NVDA when reading Word files

David Griffith
 

 

I don’t know if my original suggestion  ever got posted but this  problem disappeared for  me when I went to DropBox preferences in the system tray and turned badges notifications to never show in the General tab.

 

I have never, since  doing this, had had any issue opening Office Files of any kind in my DropBox under Windows.

 

I mention this again as it seems not to have been discussed as an obvious solution despite my trying to post it yesterday.

David Griffith

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Abbie Taylor
Sent: 14 January 2020 23:31
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dropbox interfering with NVDA when reading Word files

 

Shaun, I'm having the same issue as Clive. I usually open files directly in Word, no matter where they are. I still have this issue with files in Dropbox whether I'm opening them  there or in Word. Fortunately, I don't need those files in Dropbox, so I've moved them to a different location.
--
Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@...


NVDA 2019.3 beta 2 now available

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

NVDA 2019.3 beta 2 is now available for testing.

This update adds a few new features and fixes from beta 1 including: 

- The new Windows console support using UI Automation is no longer used by default as it is not yet ready for production use. However, it is still available from NVDA’s advance settings panel. (#10684)
- NVDA no longer freezes in the new version of Microsoft Edge that is based on Chromium. (#10675)
- A short sound is now optionally played when screen curtain is turned on or off. (#10611)
- Fixed an issue when upgrading configuration from recent alpha builds. (#10598)
- Fixed an issue when navigating lists with table navigation commands. (#10623)

For all the details and to download the new beta, please visit: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta2-now-available-for-testing/

As always, please do report any issues or bugs you encounter.

Kind regards

Quentin.

-- 

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


State of the NvDA Remote add-on: NV Access sent patches to add-on authors

 

Hello NVDA users, especially NVDA Remote add-on fans:

 

For the last few months, many of you were wondering about what’s going on with NVDA Remote add-on, which isn’t compatible with upcoming NVDA 2019.3. I’m delighted to announce that something is indeed happening with the add-on. According to Reef Turner, an NV Access staff and NVDA developer, NV Access people just sent a series of patches to Remote add-on developers to make the add-on ready for NVDA 2019.3.

Stay tuned for updates on this front.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Dropbox interfering with NVDA when reading Word files

Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@...>
 

Shaun, I'm having the same issue as Clive. I usually open files directly in Word, no matter where they are. I still have this issue with files in Dropbox whether I'm opening them  there or in Word. Fortunately, I don't need those files in Dropbox, so I've moved them to a different location.
--
Abbie Johnson Taylor, Author
http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com
http://abbiescorner.wordpress.com
abbietaylor945@...


Re: Tree View Lost in the Forest.

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, I am not going to be of to much help really, but I have 2 of said radio's and seem to remember that the Cps software was not very accessible using nvda. I just get a mate to program the radio up. don't really like the handset.

On 14/01/2020 23:05, Martin McCormick wrote:
"Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com> writes:
Martin,

Having the program name, and a download link if it's freeware, would be
most helpful for any assistant. One generally has to play with the
actual software to determine anything meaningful when it's odd stuff such
as this.
Certainly. Here is a link which will lead you to a zip archiv.
https://gd-77.s3.amazonaws.com/GD-77S%20Firmware%20V1.3.0%20%26%20Software%20V1.1.10_20190712.zip
This is not a particularly dangerous zip file but unpack it
somewhere you feel comfortable with it.
It will produce two directories, one with firmware in
it's name and the other with program in it's name.
We're interested in the program directory.
You must run the setup and it will install gd-77S which
is the program.
Always be careful with this kind of software, but unless you have
a radio connected to one of your usb ports, it's not likely to do
anything bad.
I got the same screens when the radio was not connected
so you don't need it to play with the program.
Thanks very much.
Martin WB5AGZ


Re: Tree View Lost in the Forest.

Martin McCormick
 

"Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com> writes:
Martin,

Having the program name, and a download link if it's freeware, would be
most helpful for any assistant. One generally has to play with the
actual software to determine anything meaningful when it's odd stuff such
as this.
Certainly. Here is a link which will lead you to a zip archiv.

https://gd-77.s3.amazonaws.com/GD-77S%20Firmware%20V1.3.0%20%26%20Software%20V1.1.10_20190712.zip

This is not a particularly dangerous zip file but unpack it
somewhere you feel comfortable with it.

It will produce two directories, one with firmware in
it's name and the other with program in it's name.

We're interested in the program directory.

You must run the setup and it will install gd-77S which
is the program.

Always be careful with this kind of software, but unless you have
a radio connected to one of your usb ports, it's not likely to do
anything bad.

I got the same screens when the radio was not connected
so you don't need it to play with the program.

Thanks very much.

Martin WB5AGZ


Re: nvda] Excel and word with dropbox

 

You didn't clearly explain your issue. Try again! :) Are you having an issue or do you have a comment?


Re: Excel and VBa 2010 Questions

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Chris and Pele,

I am using Office 2016 on windows 10 and I never have this problem. Perhaps it’s a version issue after all?


All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2020 8:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Excel and VBa 2010 Questions

Hi Pele
I use Excel 2007 under Windows 10 and I get the same issue regarding editing VBA macro code. NVDA totally loses track and I usually end up copying the whole module into Notepad, coding there, then replacing the module code an debugging. It's a long standing issue which I've posted on the list in the past bbut the issue has not been replicated by other list members, so nothing has ever been done about it. Your post is the first time i've seen anything on the list regarding this issue other than my own posts. Sorry I can't offer a solution.

Cheers
Chris


On 14/01/2020, Pele West <pele.westlists@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Again

Thank you for getting back to me so quickly.

1. I am using a Dell desktop PC.

2. I am running Windows 7.

3. I am running the beta version of NVDA 2019.3.

4. I am using MSoffice 2010.

Pressing <Control Tab> to switch between modules sometimes works.

If I press <Control-F> to find the code and then arrow up and down it
is not always visible, although it is there, as I have just found it
with <Control-F>.

I wonder if this is a highlighting issue.

I have another NVDA Excel question: is there a way to stop NVDA
speaking and displaying messages like "Cropped" and "Overflow"?

Pele





nvda] Excel and word with dropbox

Mark <marktyler2014@...>
 

Hi using windows 10 64 bit 19.03

With nvda 2019.2.1

And office 16 365

Mark.


Re: Excel and VBa 2010 Questions

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Pele
I use Excel 2007 under Windows 10 and I get the same issue regarding
editing VBA macro code. NVDA totally loses track and I usually end up
copying the whole module into Notepad, coding there, then replacing
the module code an debugging. It's a long standing issue which I've
posted on the list in the past bbut the issue has not been replicated
by other list members, so nothing has ever been done about it. Your
post is the first time i've seen anything on the list regarding this
issue other than my own posts. Sorry I can't offer a solution.

Cheers
Chris

On 14/01/2020, Pele West <pele.westlists@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Again

Thank you for getting back to me so quickly.

1. I am using a Dell desktop PC.

2. I am running Windows 7.

3. I am running the beta version of NVDA 2019.3.

4. I am using MSoffice 2010.

Pressing <Control Tab> to switch between modules sometimes works.

If I press <Control-F> to find the code and then arrow up and down it is
not always visible, although it is there, as I have just found it with
<Control-F>.

I wonder if this is a highlighting issue.

I have another NVDA Excel question: is there a way to stop NVDA speaking
and displaying messages like "Cropped" and "Overflow"?

Pele




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