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Re: Re-Order quick actions in Action Center with keyboard

 

Hi,
As a follow-up: I’ll do some digging into making NVDA announce drag and drop operations for this grid and tiles in the future.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kostadin Kolev
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 10:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Re-Order quick actions in Action Center with keyboard

 

Hello,

Yes, you can. The principle is the same as for tiles in the Start menu and maybe some other places in Windows 10. And that is: Focus an item that you want to move and then use Alt+Shift+Arrow keys to move the item. Note, that the items are placed in a grid with 4 items in a row and down and right moves the item to the right and on the next row eventually and left and up moves the item to the left and on the previous row eventually. Also note, that at least for me, NVDA does not announce the movement of the items (Narrator does). When you're done, tab to the "Done" button and activate it to save your settings. If you don't want to save your changes, press ESCAPE to just dismiss the editing window. Another note: the label of the "Done" button seams to be different for screen readers, but it is the one before the one for adding items to the quick actions panel.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

На 9.11.2019 г. в 0:31, Denis Sariyannis написа:

Hi All,

under Windows 10 settings -> system -> Action Center it is possible to re-order the quick action buttons.

I think sighted users are doing this via drag and drop. Is there a simple way to do it with the keyboard and NVDA?

 

Thanks and best regards

Denis

 

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Mail: denis.sariyannis@...
Phone: +49 6227 6982766
Mobile: +49 176 66830900


Re: Re-Order quick actions in Action Center with keyboard

 

Hello,

Yes, you can. The principle is the same as for tiles in the Start menu and maybe some other places in Windows 10. And that is: Focus an item that you want to move and then use Alt+Shift+Arrow keys to move the item. Note, that the items are placed in a grid with 4 items in a row and down and right moves the item to the right and on the next row eventually and left and up moves the item to the left and on the previous row eventually. Also note, that at least for me, NVDA does not announce the movement of the items (Narrator does). When you're done, tab to the "Done" button and activate it to save your settings. If you don't want to save your changes, press ESCAPE to just dismiss the editing window. Another note: the label of the "Done" button seams to be different for screen readers, but it is the one before the one for adding items to the quick actions panel.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

На 9.11.2019 г. в 0:31, Denis Sariyannis написа:

Hi All,
under Windows 10 settings -> system -> Action Center it is possible to re-order the quick action buttons.
I think sighted users are doing this via drag and drop. Is there a simple way to do it with the keyboard and NVDA?

Thanks and best regards
Denis

--
Denis Sariyannis
Mail: denis.sariyannis@...
Phone: +49 6227 6982766
Mobile: +49 176 66830900


Re: NVDA announcing new opened windows

Desert Moon
 

Hello Janet and list,

I have the Extra Sounds Add-in for Firefox:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/extra-sounds/

Nothing to set up or configure.

Every time a webpage has been loaded, I will hear a "ding" sound.


--
Desert


locked Re: the opera browser

Arlene
 

Oh, okay. When I was on the advanced Jaws list. People complained that opera was not very user friendly.  I never tried it I thought it was for deep coding! I guess it got better as time went on. I never seen questions about it in windows 7. Not until now.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Jaffar Sidek
Sent: November 8, 2019 1:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

It runs first class on windows 10 1903

On 11/9/2019 1:11 AM, Arlene wrote:

Yes, I knew it did. Wasn’t sure if it ran on other versions of windows.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: November 8, 2019 3:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

Yes it still exists and I think it still runs on XP.

 

Cheers

Chris

C

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 8 November 2019 06:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

What? Opera browser still exists?  I’ve heard of it when I was on the jaws list. Not the list that Debbi Scales ran. She was for beginners and advancing users. I was on the list for more advanced users. There was where I heard about the Opera Browser. Can anybody use it? Or is it for more advanced users where they do computer coding? Sorry for the long message. I thought Opera was a thing of the past.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: November 7, 2019 10:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

i just tried it one time and it worked.

i dont remember which version i installed.

 

On 11/8/19, Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...> wrote:

> Hay I was wondering if the opera browser works with a screen reader such

> as nvda?  just let me know and I will try it

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Quick default hot key question

Sile
 

Hi Tony, I sorted it out. I just wasn’t going deep enough into the menu to be able to change the shortcut key.

On Nov 8, 2019, at 5:07 PM, Sile via Groups.Io <somodhrain=googlemail.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hello Tony


So maybe I am being stupid, but I can't seem to change this gesture in the input gestures dialogue. First of all, NVDA is not announcing what the current shortcut key is when I select it within the Input Gestures dropdown, and I can't find the place where I can change it.


--Sile


On 2019-11-07 10:02 p.m., Tony Malykh wrote:
By default AudioChart assigns NVDA+a shortcut in desktop layout and nvda+control+shift+a in laptop layout.

Is your NVDA running in Laptop layout?

In any case, you can always change default hotkeys in input gestures dialog in preferences menu.

--Tony

On 11/7/2019 8:56 AM, Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello


The NVDA Audio Chart add-on for XL is set, by default, to the hotkey 'tab plus a'. This is also the key to read to end. Is there any way to change the audio chart hot key, or do I have to change the read-to-end hot key?



--Sile






locked Re: the opera browser

Gene
 

Its another way of copying to the clipboard.  Remember, I said to use shift plus movement keys.  and you don't have to use the context menu.  Shift down arrow and then use control c.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opera browser

Thanks Jaffar.  That exactly what I need.

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 5:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opera browser

 

Pascal.  I'm not sure if this is what you want to do, but arrow down to the link you want to copy, press shift+DownArrow to select it, then press the context menu key and arrow down to copy link address and press enter.  the link should now be copied to your clipboard.  I hope it helps.  Cheers!

On 11/9/2019 6:14 AM, coccinelle@... wrote:

Hi,

I tried it and it is pretty fast and yes once can read articles with the annoyance of ads.  I could not use the Shift—F9 to copy a link.  Is there another way to do that.

Thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 4:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

It runs first class on windows 10 1903

On 11/9/2019 1:11 AM, Arlene wrote:

Yes, I knew it did. Wasn’t sure if it ran on other versions of windows.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: November 8, 2019 3:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

Yes it still exists and I think it still runs on XP.

 

Cheers

Chris

C

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 8 November 2019 06:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

What? Opera browser still exists?  I’ve heard of it when I was on the jaws list. Not the list that Debbi Scales ran. She was for beginners and advancing users. I was on the list for more advanced users. There was where I heard about the Opera Browser. Can anybody use it? Or is it for more advanced users where they do computer coding? Sorry for the long message. I thought Opera was a thing of the past.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: November 7, 2019 10:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

i just tried it one time and it worked.

i dont remember which version i installed.

 

On 11/8/19, Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...> wrote:

> Hay I was wondering if the opera browser works with a screen reader such

> as nvda?  just let me know and I will try it

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

 


locked Re: the opera browser

Gene
 

I don't know how that can be.  I just tried shift f9 on a link and it resulted in the link being followed.  Nothing was copied to the clipboard. 
 
Gene

Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 7:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opera browser

Yes, I said that because it is what I use in Chrome and Firefox.

Thanks for the tip.

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 5:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opera browser

 

You alsaid you couldn't use shift f9.  its NVDA key f9.  Is that why you can't use the f9 and f10 method?

 

Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 4:14 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] the opera browser

 

Hi,

I tried it and it is pretty fast and yes once can read articles with the annoyance of ads.  I could not use the Shift—F9 to copy a link.  Is there another way to do that.

Thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 4:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

It runs first class on windows 10 1903

On 11/9/2019 1:11 AM, Arlene wrote:

Yes, I knew it did. Wasn’t sure if it ran on other versions of windows.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: November 8, 2019 3:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

Yes it still exists and I think it still runs on XP.

 

Cheers

Chris

C

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 8 November 2019 06:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

What? Opera browser still exists?  I’ve heard of it when I was on the jaws list. Not the list that Debbi Scales ran. She was for beginners and advancing users. I was on the list for more advanced users. There was where I heard about the Opera Browser. Can anybody use it? Or is it for more advanced users where they do computer coding? Sorry for the long message. I thought Opera was a thing of the past.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: November 7, 2019 10:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

i just tried it one time and it worked.

i dont remember which version i installed.

 

On 11/8/19, Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...> wrote:

> Hay I was wondering if the opera browser works with a screen reader such

> as nvda?  just let me know and I will try it

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

 


locked Re: the opera browser

Pascal Lambert
 

Thanks Jaffar.  That exactly what I need.

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 5:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opera browser

 

Pascal.  I'm not sure if this is what you want to do, but arrow down to the link you want to copy, press shift+DownArrow to select it, then press the context menu key and arrow down to copy link address and press enter.  the link should now be copied to your clipboard.  I hope it helps.  Cheers!

On 11/9/2019 6:14 AM, coccinelle@... wrote:

Hi,

I tried it and it is pretty fast and yes once can read articles with the annoyance of ads.  I could not use the Shift—F9 to copy a link.  Is there another way to do that.

Thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 4:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

It runs first class on windows 10 1903

On 11/9/2019 1:11 AM, Arlene wrote:

Yes, I knew it did. Wasn’t sure if it ran on other versions of windows.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: November 8, 2019 3:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

Yes it still exists and I think it still runs on XP.

 

Cheers

Chris

C

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 8 November 2019 06:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

What? Opera browser still exists?  I’ve heard of it when I was on the jaws list. Not the list that Debbi Scales ran. She was for beginners and advancing users. I was on the list for more advanced users. There was where I heard about the Opera Browser. Can anybody use it? Or is it for more advanced users where they do computer coding? Sorry for the long message. I thought Opera was a thing of the past.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: November 7, 2019 10:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

i just tried it one time and it worked.

i dont remember which version i installed.

 

On 11/8/19, Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...> wrote:

> Hay I was wondering if the opera browser works with a screen reader such

> as nvda?  just let me know and I will try it

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

 


locked Re: the opera browser

Pascal Lambert
 

Yes, I said that because it is what I use in Chrome and Firefox.

Thanks for the tip.

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 5:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opera browser

 

You alsaid you couldn't use shift f9.  its NVDA key f9.  Is that why you can't use the f9 and f10 method?

 

Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 4:14 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] the opera browser

 

Hi,

I tried it and it is pretty fast and yes once can read articles with the annoyance of ads.  I could not use the Shift—F9 to copy a link.  Is there another way to do that.

Thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 4:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

It runs first class on windows 10 1903

On 11/9/2019 1:11 AM, Arlene wrote:

Yes, I knew it did. Wasn’t sure if it ran on other versions of windows.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: November 8, 2019 3:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

Yes it still exists and I think it still runs on XP.

 

Cheers

Chris

C

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 8 November 2019 06:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

What? Opera browser still exists?  I’ve heard of it when I was on the jaws list. Not the list that Debbi Scales ran. She was for beginners and advancing users. I was on the list for more advanced users. There was where I heard about the Opera Browser. Can anybody use it? Or is it for more advanced users where they do computer coding? Sorry for the long message. I thought Opera was a thing of the past.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: November 7, 2019 10:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

i just tried it one time and it worked.

i dont remember which version i installed.

 

On 11/8/19, Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...> wrote:

> Hay I was wondering if the opera browser works with a screen reader such

> as nvda?  just let me know and I will try it

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

 


locked Re: the opera browser

Gene
 

I made my last comments in the below message in case you don't have NVDA set to display only one link on a line and if there is more than one link on the line you are working with.  You can use the home shift end method for copying a full line of text.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opera browser

Copy the Windows way.  I'm assuming you have NVDA set to show one link on one line.  Home, shift end, control c.  You only have to use the insert f9 insert f10 method in places where no cursor or virtual cursor is present, such as in a dialog. 
 
However you have links set to display, go to the first letter of the link, and move through it holding the shift and use whatever movement commands you want, end, the right arrow key, etc. 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opera browser

Hi,

I tried it and it is pretty fast and yes once can read articles with the annoyance of ads.  I could not use the Shift—F9 to copy a link.  Is there another way to do that.

Thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 4:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

It runs first class on windows 10 1903

On 11/9/2019 1:11 AM, Arlene wrote:

Yes, I knew it did. Wasn’t sure if it ran on other versions of windows.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: November 8, 2019 3:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

Yes it still exists and I think it still runs on XP.

 

Cheers

Chris

C

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 8 November 2019 06:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

What? Opera browser still exists?  I’ve heard of it when I was on the jaws list. Not the list that Debbi Scales ran. She was for beginners and advancing users. I was on the list for more advanced users. There was where I heard about the Opera Browser. Can anybody use it? Or is it for more advanced users where they do computer coding? Sorry for the long message. I thought Opera was a thing of the past.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: November 7, 2019 10:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

i just tried it one time and it worked.

i dont remember which version i installed.

 

On 11/8/19, Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...> wrote:

> Hay I was wondering if the opera browser works with a screen reader such

> as nvda?  just let me know and I will try it

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

 


locked Re: the opera browser

Jaffar Sidek
 

Pascal.  I'm not sure if this is what you want to do, but arrow down to the link you want to copy, press shift+DownArrow to select it, then press the context menu key and arrow down to copy link address and press enter.  the link should now be copied to your clipboard.  I hope it helps.  Cheers!

On 11/9/2019 6:14 AM, coccinelle@... wrote:

Hi,

I tried it and it is pretty fast and yes once can read articles with the annoyance of ads.  I could not use the Shift—F9 to copy a link.  Is there another way to do that.

Thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 4:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

It runs first class on windows 10 1903

On 11/9/2019 1:11 AM, Arlene wrote:

Yes, I knew it did. Wasn’t sure if it ran on other versions of windows.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: November 8, 2019 3:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

Yes it still exists and I think it still runs on XP.

 

Cheers

Chris

C

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 8 November 2019 06:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

What? Opera browser still exists?  I’ve heard of it when I was on the jaws list. Not the list that Debbi Scales ran. She was for beginners and advancing users. I was on the list for more advanced users. There was where I heard about the Opera Browser. Can anybody use it? Or is it for more advanced users where they do computer coding? Sorry for the long message. I thought Opera was a thing of the past.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: November 7, 2019 10:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

i just tried it one time and it worked.

i dont remember which version i installed.

 

On 11/8/19, Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...> wrote:

> Hay I was wondering if the opera browser works with a screen reader such

> as nvda?  just let me know and I will try it

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

 


locked Re: the opera browser

Gene
 

You alsaid you couldn't use shift f9.  its NVDA key f9.  Is that why you can't use the f9 and f10 method?

Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opera browser

Hi,

I tried it and it is pretty fast and yes once can read articles with the annoyance of ads.  I could not use the Shift—F9 to copy a link.  Is there another way to do that.

Thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 4:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

It runs first class on windows 10 1903

On 11/9/2019 1:11 AM, Arlene wrote:

Yes, I knew it did. Wasn’t sure if it ran on other versions of windows.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: November 8, 2019 3:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

Yes it still exists and I think it still runs on XP.

 

Cheers

Chris

C

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 8 November 2019 06:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

What? Opera browser still exists?  I’ve heard of it when I was on the jaws list. Not the list that Debbi Scales ran. She was for beginners and advancing users. I was on the list for more advanced users. There was where I heard about the Opera Browser. Can anybody use it? Or is it for more advanced users where they do computer coding? Sorry for the long message. I thought Opera was a thing of the past.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: November 7, 2019 10:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

i just tried it one time and it worked.

i dont remember which version i installed.

 

On 11/8/19, Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...> wrote:

> Hay I was wondering if the opera browser works with a screen reader such

> as nvda?  just let me know and I will try it

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

 


locked Re: the opera browser

Gene
 

Copy the Windows way.  I'm assuming you have NVDA set to show one link on one line.  Home, shift end, control c.  You only have to use the insert f9 insert f10 method in places where no cursor or virtual cursor is present, such as in a dialog. 
 
However you have links set to display, go to the first letter of the link, and move through it holding the shift and use whatever movement commands you want, end, the right arrow key, etc. 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opera browser

Hi,

I tried it and it is pretty fast and yes once can read articles with the annoyance of ads.  I could not use the Shift—F9 to copy a link.  Is there another way to do that.

Thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 4:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

It runs first class on windows 10 1903

On 11/9/2019 1:11 AM, Arlene wrote:

Yes, I knew it did. Wasn’t sure if it ran on other versions of windows.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: November 8, 2019 3:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

Yes it still exists and I think it still runs on XP.

 

Cheers

Chris

C

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 8 November 2019 06:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

What? Opera browser still exists?  I’ve heard of it when I was on the jaws list. Not the list that Debbi Scales ran. She was for beginners and advancing users. I was on the list for more advanced users. There was where I heard about the Opera Browser. Can anybody use it? Or is it for more advanced users where they do computer coding? Sorry for the long message. I thought Opera was a thing of the past.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: November 7, 2019 10:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

i just tried it one time and it worked.

i dont remember which version i installed.

 

On 11/8/19, Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...> wrote:

> Hay I was wondering if the opera browser works with a screen reader such

> as nvda?  just let me know and I will try it

>

 

 

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By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

 


Re-Order quick actions in Action Center with keyboard

Denis Sariyannis
 

Hi All,
under Windows 10 settings -> system -> Action Center it is possible to re-order the quick action buttons.
I think sighted users are doing this via drag and drop. Is there a simple way to do it with the keyboard and NVDA?

Thanks and best regards
Denis

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locked Re: the opera browser

Pascal Lambert
 

Hi,

I tried it and it is pretty fast and yes once can read articles with the annoyance of ads.  I could not use the Shift—F9 to copy a link.  Is there another way to do that.

Thanks

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 4:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

It runs first class on windows 10 1903

On 11/9/2019 1:11 AM, Arlene wrote:

Yes, I knew it did. Wasn’t sure if it ran on other versions of windows.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: November 8, 2019 3:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

Yes it still exists and I think it still runs on XP.

 

Cheers

Chris

C

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 8 November 2019 06:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

What? Opera browser still exists?  I’ve heard of it when I was on the jaws list. Not the list that Debbi Scales ran. She was for beginners and advancing users. I was on the list for more advanced users. There was where I heard about the Opera Browser. Can anybody use it? Or is it for more advanced users where they do computer coding? Sorry for the long message. I thought Opera was a thing of the past.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: November 7, 2019 10:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

i just tried it one time and it worked.

i dont remember which version i installed.

 

On 11/8/19, Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...> wrote:

> Hay I was wondering if the opera browser works with a screen reader such

> as nvda?  just let me know and I will try it

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA adding and changing settings

David Moore
 

Has Clip Speak been updated to work with the python 3 snapshots builds yet?
David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 6:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA adding and changing settings

 

Hi Quentin

Thanks for the tip re the asterisk in Notepad files.  I’d noticed it but didn’t know what it meant.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 7 November 2019 22:40
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA adding and changing settings

 

Just chiming in to give the visual perspective:

In Notepad, when pressing control+s:

- If the document has not been saved before, the "Save as" dialog appears and NVDA reports that.

- If the document has been saved previously, Notepad saves it, and NVDA does not say anything (unless you have speak command keys on, in which case NVDA reports "control+s").  Notepad does put an asterisk at the start of the filename in the title bar when a document has been edited.  This disappears when the document is saved.  NVDA does read this asterisk when reading the title bar.

 

In Word 365, when pressing control+s:

- If the document has not been saved before, a "Save this file" window appears and NVDA reports that.

- If the document has been saved previously and "AutoSave" is enabled, nothing happens and NVDA does not report anything (again unless speak command keys is on to report "control+s").  With AutoSave on, the document is saved every time any key is pressed so control+s is not needed.

- If the document has been saved previously and "AutoSave" is not enabled, the visual response is again subtle.  When you open a document, or save it, the title bar notes "Filename - Saved".  Once you change it, the "Saved" disappears.  This gets reinstated when you save it.  There is currently a known issue, I believe with the way Office is exposing the title bar.  See: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/10150

 

Similar to announcing cut, copied or pasted, reporting when a document is saved is not something we would be inclined to add to NVDA UNLESS we could be sure a document had been saved.  I can see the usefulness of the functionality for some users (it reminds me of how when teaching email, people often want confirmation that the email has been sent, but many email clients don't give that).  For this reason, I would recommend it might be useful functionality for an add-on.  Possibly Damien Garwood, developer of the ClipSpeak add-on, might be interested in adding it.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Nov 8, 2019 at 6:14 AM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I checked, and the settings you are discussing are checked by default.  So people should hear this message in general.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2019 1:08 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA adding and changing settings

 

It should be spoken and if it isn't without changing NVDA settings, the problem should be corrected. 

 

Perhaps this is a problem using NVDA in Windows 10.  The message is spoken in Windows 7. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2019 1:02 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA adding and changing settings

 

Hi

 

If it is the message he wants to hear even though it is not spoken when in note pad and do the alt key + f4 key and get the message do you want to save which is not spoken.

 

he can do the following in nvdas settings under simple review cursor make sure it is checked and make sure simple review mode is checked.

 

If i want to hear the message when it comes up and says cancel save etc and it is not spoken out which does not worry me I can use object navigation to hear it in this case it is the nvda key + 6 on the numeric keypad then use nvda key + 4 tto go back to where the buttons are and save that way.

 

Some of the material that is not read out can be accessed with object navigation like this example.

 

If a document is already saved I do not need to hear it has been saved as I know it has been.

 

Gene nz

 

On 8/11/2019 7:40 am, Gene wrote:

Window-eyes says that because it is told by the developers, to say that word when that key combination is pressed.  it isn't analyzing an action by the word processor or text editor to know if a document was saved.  It is just saying the word.  That is bad design and Window-eyes probably says other things because the screen-reader is programmed to do so just because a certain key combination is pressed. 

 

Frankly, you are worrying excessively about almost nothing.  As I said, if you issue the save command twice, it is almost 100 percent certain that the document has been saved.  And to emphasize the point, all this time, you were saving documents and relying on Window-eyes to tell you that they were saved when actually, all it was doing was saying the word saved because it was programmed to when you pressed that combination.  But that shows how reliably your documents were being saved. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2019 12:23 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA adding and changing settings

 

FYI: In Window-Eyes when pressing the control-s command it does say “save”. In NVDA the alt-f4 command is helpful. Another thought that occured to me is to go to the file name in the subdirectory and check the date and time last saved, especially if i want to continue editing the document.

 

Listening for His shout!

Grant – A.K.A. Grandpa DOS

 

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Re: Quick default hot key question

Sile
 

Hello Tony


So maybe I am being stupid, but I can't seem to change this gesture in the input gestures dialogue.  First of all, NVDA is not announcing what the current shortcut key is when I select it within the Input Gestures dropdown, and I can't find the place where I can change it.


--Sile

On 2019-11-07 10:02 p.m., Tony Malykh wrote:
By default AudioChart assigns NVDA+a shortcut in desktop layout and nvda+control+shift+a in laptop layout.

Is your NVDA running in Laptop layout?

In any case, you can always change default hotkeys in input gestures dialog in preferences menu.

--Tony

On 11/7/2019 8:56 AM, Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
Hello


The NVDA Audio Chart add-on for XL is set, by default, to the hotkey 'tab plus a'.  This is also the key to read to end.  Is there any way to change the audio chart hot key, or do I have to change the read-to-end hot key?



--Sile





Re: Directing Speech to an External Sound Card

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

Press insert+control+s to open synthesizer

Tab

Arrow down to the sound card you wish to use and enter

You’re done

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 7:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Directing Speech to an External Sound Card

 

Recently discussed (several times, in fact) at length:  Directing NVDA output to a particular audio device 
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The color of truth is grey.

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Re: NVDA+Outlook, and number of new messages

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Cordelia,

Close all open emails and make sure that your cursor is resting on any
closed message in the current folder.
Press control+Shif+tab to opens the "Folder List". NVDA announces "Folder
List minimised".
Press space bar to expand the list.
Arrow down to the folder you want or type the initial letter of the folder
name.
Note that NVDA speaks the number of messages contained in the folder after
giving the folder name.


You can also open the Folder List by using control+y but this view of the
list does not show the number of emails contained in each folder.

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cordelia
Scharpf
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 5:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA+Outlook, and number of new messages

Hi:

I am looking for a method in NVDA to determine the number of new messages
arriving in Outlook's in-box, spam folder, and junk mail. Does NVDA offer
such info without my having to arrow up and down each list in each folder?
Thanks.

Cordelia


locked Re: the opera browser

Jaffar Sidek
 

It runs first class on windows 10 1903

On 11/9/2019 1:11 AM, Arlene wrote:

Yes, I knew it did. Wasn’t sure if it ran on other versions of windows.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: November 8, 2019 3:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

Yes it still exists and I think it still runs on XP.

 

Cheers

Chris

C

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 8 November 2019 06:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

What? Opera browser still exists?  I’ve heard of it when I was on the jaws list. Not the list that Debbi Scales ran. She was for beginners and advancing users. I was on the list for more advanced users. There was where I heard about the Opera Browser. Can anybody use it? Or is it for more advanced users where they do computer coding? Sorry for the long message. I thought Opera was a thing of the past.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: November 7, 2019 10:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] the opra browser

 

i just tried it one time and it worked.

i dont remember which version i installed.

 

On 11/8/19, Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...> wrote:

> Hay I was wondering if the opera browser works with a screen reader such

> as nvda?  just let me know and I will try it

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali