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Joseph Lee's add-on announcements 1: Windows 10 App Essentials 19.11.1 #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

Note: a part 2 of this announcement will be sent soon.

 

Within the next few hours, you’ll get a notification (hopefully via Add-on Updater) that a new update is available for Windows 10 App Essentials. Version 19.11.1 of this add-on includes a hotfix to allow continued operation of the add-on in latest NVDA 2019.3 alpha snapshots, specifically in regards to braille support in emoji panel and other Windows 10 areas. This came as a result of backwards incompatible change made to NVDA’s source code, which is affecting certain add-ons (a notice was sent to add-on authors a few hours ago).

 

Note: please do update to 19.11.1, especially if you are using NVDA 2019.3 alpha snapshots.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: NVDA adding and changing settings

Gene
 

It should be spoken and if it isn't without changing NVDA settings, the problem should be corrected. 
 
Perhaps this is a problem using NVDA in Windows 10.  The message is spoken in Windows 7. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2019 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA adding and changing settings

Hi


If it is the message he wants to hear even though it is not spoken when in note pad and do the alt key + f4 key and get the message do you want to save which is not spoken.


he can do the following in nvdas settings under simple review cursor make sure it is checked and make sure simple review mode is checked.


If i want to hear the message when it comes up and says cancel save etc and it is not spoken out which does not worry me I can use object navigation to hear it in this case it is the nvda key + 6 on the numeric keypad then use nvda key + 4 tto go back to where the buttons are and save that way.


Some of the material that is not read out can be accessed with object navigation like this example.


If a document is already saved I do not need to hear it has been saved as I know it has been.


Gene nz


On 8/11/2019 7:40 am, Gene wrote:
Window-eyes says that because it is told by the developers, to say that word when that key combination is pressed.  it isn't analyzing an action by the word processor or text editor to know if a document was saved.  It is just saying the word.  That is bad design and Window-eyes probably says other things because the screen-reader is programmed to do so just because a certain key combination is pressed. 
 
Frankly, you are worrying excessively about almost nothing.  As I said, if you issue the save command twice, it is almost 100 percent certain that the document has been saved.  And to emphasize the point, all this time, you were saving documents and relying on Window-eyes to tell you that they were saved when actually, all it was doing was saying the word saved because it was programmed to when you pressed that combination.  But that shows how reliably your documents were being saved. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2019 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA adding and changing settings

FYI: In Window-Eyes when pressing the control-s command it does say “save”. In NVDA the alt-f4 command is helpful. Another thought that occured to me is to go to the file name in the subdirectory and check the date and time last saved, especially if i want to continue editing the document.
 
Listening for His shout!
Grant – A.K.A. Grandpa DOS
 
--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: NVDA adding and changing settings

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


If it is the message he wants to hear even though it is not spoken when in note pad and do the alt key + f4 key and get the message do you want to save which is not spoken.


he can do the following in nvdas settings under simple review cursor make sure it is checked and make sure simple review mode is checked.


If i want to hear the message when it comes up and says cancel save etc and it is not spoken out which does not worry me I can use object navigation to hear it in this case it is the nvda key + 6 on the numeric keypad then use nvda key + 4 tto go back to where the buttons are and save that way.


Some of the material that is not read out can be accessed with object navigation like this example.


If a document is already saved I do not need to hear it has been saved as I know it has been.


Gene nz


On 8/11/2019 7:40 am, Gene wrote:
Window-eyes says that because it is told by the developers, to say that word when that key combination is pressed.  it isn't analyzing an action by the word processor or text editor to know if a document was saved.  It is just saying the word.  That is bad design and Window-eyes probably says other things because the screen-reader is programmed to do so just because a certain key combination is pressed. 
 
Frankly, you are worrying excessively about almost nothing.  As I said, if you issue the save command twice, it is almost 100 percent certain that the document has been saved.  And to emphasize the point, all this time, you were saving documents and relying on Window-eyes to tell you that they were saved when actually, all it was doing was saying the word saved because it was programmed to when you pressed that combination.  But that shows how reliably your documents were being saved. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2019 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA adding and changing settings

FYI: In Window-Eyes when pressing the control-s command it does say “save”. In NVDA the alt-f4 command is helpful. Another thought that occured to me is to go to the file name in the subdirectory and check the date and time last saved, especially if i want to continue editing the document.
 
Listening for His shout!
Grant – A.K.A. Grandpa DOS
 
--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: NVDA adding and changing settings

Gene
 

Window-eyes says that because it is told by the developers, to say that word when that key combination is pressed.  it isn't analyzing an action by the word processor or text editor to know if a document was saved.  It is just saying the word.  That is bad design and Window-eyes probably says other things because the screen-reader is programmed to do so just because a certain key combination is pressed. 
 
Frankly, you are worrying excessively about almost nothing.  As I said, if you issue the save command twice, it is almost 100 percent certain that the document has been saved.  And to emphasize the point, all this time, you were saving documents and relying on Window-eyes to tell you that they were saved when actually, all it was doing was saying the word saved because it was programmed to when you pressed that combination.  But that shows how reliably your documents were being saved. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2019 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA adding and changing settings

FYI: In Window-Eyes when pressing the control-s command it does say “save”. In NVDA the alt-f4 command is helpful. Another thought that occured to me is to go to the file name in the subdirectory and check the date and time last saved, especially if i want to continue editing the document.
 
Listening for His shout!
Grant – A.K.A. Grandpa DOS
 


Re: NVDA adding and changing settings

Grant Metcalf
 

FYI: In Window-Eyes when pressing the control-s command it does say “save”. In NVDA the alt-f4 command is helpful. Another thought that occured to me is to go to the file name in the subdirectory and check the date and time last saved, especially if i want to continue editing the document.
 
Listening for His shout!
Grant – A.K.A. Grandpa DOS
 


Re: NVDA adding and changing settings

Gene
 

Grant and all
 
Since, in my experience, there are times when a command needs to be issued twice, issuing control so twice, pausing briefly between times, will be just about certain to save the document.  So if you issue the command twice, the likelihood of both times failing is so small that there is no need to worry.  I'm not thinking of times when you are going to close the document, I'm thinking of times when you do some work and you want to save your work before adding or changing more in the document.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2019 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA adding and changing settings

I don't quite understand why you heard that and we don't. I just never need to hear it, not on any platform I use. I just like I said assume. You don't need to really hear it but just alt f4 or how ever you get out of the windows, control w also works and if you get that prompt you will know you did not invoke the save dialogue. If you saved and got that dialogue and you invoked the control s you will know it just saved as it should just work.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

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Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 7 Nov 2019, at 9:04, Grant Metcalf wrote:

Gene,
Thank you for suggesting using the alt-f4 command to see if the document needs to be saved. That will be of some help to Grandpa DOS. Still wish I could hear “document saved”, however, when using the control-s command. :_)
 
Listening for His shout!
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Email: the.gems@...
Home: (650) 589-6890
Cell: (650) 278-3084


Re: NVDA adding and changing settings

Gene
 

I don't know why, but for some reason, this isn't standard behavior, at least as NVDA and JAWS are concerned.  Does a sighted person see anything indicating that an already saved document is resaved?  You would think there would be some sort of indication, but I don't know and the lack of an indication from JAWS and NVDA may mean that none is given.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2019 11:04 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA adding and changing settings

Gene,
Thank you for suggesting using the alt-f4 command to see if the document needs to be saved. That will be of some help to Grandpa DOS. Still wish I could hear “document saved”, however, when using the control-s command. :_)
 
Listening for His shout!
Grant – A.K.A. Grandpa DOS
Email: the.gems@...
Home: (650) 589-6890
Cell: (650) 278-3084


Re: Urgent help needed NVDA was not able to loa Microsoft SAPI 5

Gene
 

Have you tried uninstalling and reinstalling the actual synthesizer program, as well as making sure files that may be left after the uninstallation are removed before reinstalling?  Also, I recall, many years ago, seeing something about a way to repair SAPI 5.  Perhaps others may know more.  I think it was a utility but I don't recall much of anything except that that may be the case. 
 
Also, you can contact the place where you got the synthesizer and ask about the problem as well as how to repair SAPI 5.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2019 5:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Urgent help needed NVDA was not able to loa Microsoft SAPI 5

Hi,
The error message is
Synthesizer error
Could not load the sapi5 synthesizer.

I have tried:
1. restore NVDA default setting
2. reinstall some SAPI 5tts

And they failed.


Quentin Christensen 於 7/11/2019 15:27 寫道:
I wouldn't immediately jump to reinstalling Windows just yet.

Can you use eSpeak NG?  Also can you give us the exact error you get when you try to load a SAPI 5 synthesizer?  Have you installed, updated or uninstalled anything recently?

The log didn't make it through - they can't be sent to the list, but you can send it to me offlist at info@... if you like.

If it's a language issue, if you open NVDA's general settings (assuming you can still use any of NVDA?) can you set the language to English instead of default?  And if that works, it might be worth checking what your Windows language is set to just in case that has changed.

Regards

Quentin

On Thu, Nov 7, 2019 at 4:56 PM Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...> wrote:
Hi,

Very annoying to me.

Today I wake up to find that my NVDA suddenly doesn't speak English.


If I try to set Microsoft SAPI 5 as the speach engine, NVDA display
error message that the speech synth was not able to load.

The problem also exist if I try to load RH voice.

For details, I have included in the log file here.

I am very very upset now. Could any one offer me a fix for it. Many thanks.

William







--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



Re: NVDA adding and changing settings

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

Control+s and pressing the save button on the dialog displayed after pressing Alt+f4 will display the SaveAs dialog when used on an untitled Notepad file.  Either NVDA is very slow to give it focus or Notepad is slow to display it but it does eventually turn up.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 7 November 2019 16:00
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA adding and changing settings

 

It sounds as though NVDA isn't reading the save as dialog when the file has never been saved before.  If the file has been saved before, there is no save as dialog.  The new version of the file is saved.  If it isn't, because the control s command didn't work for some reason, when you try to close the program, you will be asked if you want to save the changes, so you will know if you need to save the message.  but the save as dialog should be read when it appears when you first save the document.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2019 5:56 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA adding and changing settings

 

Hi

I have been using screen readers for years, though not WindowEyes, and cannot remember a time when i relied on a “document saved” message appearing.  When editing a document in Word or Notepad, Control+s is the shortcut to save your document without exiting from it.  Using this shortcut implies that you want to save your document contents at that point. If you then use alt+f4 to close the document, it will close. 

If your document contains unsaved changes and you try to close it using Alt+f4, you will get a message asking if you want to save the document or not  .  At this point you have 3 choices:

you can press the ‘Save’ button – saves the document and closes it  

You can press the ‘don’t Save’ button – Closes the document without saving it. **

You can press the ‘Cancel’ button – returns focus to the document which remains open.

 

** Word contains options to auto-save a document at timed intervals whilst editing.  If this feature is active, when choosing not to save, you may get a further choice to disregard all changes or only those made since a particular auto-save point.

 

So, in a nutshell, if you want to be asked if you want to save or not, don’t bother with Control+s, just press alt+f4.   If there are unsaved changes you will get the Save/Don’t Save dialog, if you haven’t changed anything the document will close.

 

Cheers

Chris

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Grant Metcalf
Sent: 7 November 2019 07:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA adding and changing settings

 

Hi Arlene,

Using Notepad in Win7 the control-s command saves my document. What I do not hear in NVDA is the question “do you want to save the document” and the statement “document saved.”

I use Window-Eyes and it tells me what I want and like to hear! I was doing some editing earlier this evening using NVDA and found other differences on the QBraille display I use. If and when it becomes necessary to only use NVDA it will take some getting used to on my Win10 PC since it does not use Window-Eyes. There are days when Grandpa DOS wishes he could go back to DOS again!

Thanks for your reply.

Listening for His shout!

Grant


Re: NVDA adding and changing settings

Sarah k Alawami
 

I don't quite understand why you heard that and we don't. I just never need to hear it, not on any platform I use. I just like I said assume. You don't need to really hear it but just alt f4 or how ever you get out of the windows, control w also works and if you get that prompt you will know you did not invoke the save dialogue. If you saved and got that dialogue and you invoked the control s you will know it just saved as it should just work.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 7 Nov 2019, at 9:04, Grant Metcalf wrote:

Gene,
Thank you for suggesting using the alt-f4 command to see if the document needs to be saved. That will be of some help to Grandpa DOS. Still wish I could hear “document saved”, however, when using the control-s command. :_)
 
Listening for His shout!
Grant – A.K.A. Grandpa DOS
Email: the.gems@...
Home: (650) 589-6890
Cell: (650) 278-3084


Re: NVDA adding and changing settings

Grant Metcalf
 

Gene,
Thank you for suggesting using the alt-f4 command to see if the document needs to be saved. That will be of some help to Grandpa DOS. Still wish I could hear “document saved”, however, when using the control-s command. :_)
 
Listening for His shout!
Grant – A.K.A. Grandpa DOS
Email: the.gems@...
Home: (650) 589-6890
Cell: (650) 278-3084


Quick default hot key question

Sile
 

Hello


The NVDA Audio Chart add-on for XL is set, by default, to the hotkey 'tab plus a'.  This is also the key to read to end.  Is there any way to change the audio chart hot key, or do I have to change the read-to-end hot key?



--Sile


NVDA announcing new opened windows

Cordelia Scharpf
 

Speaking of „announcing“ an opened window in Firefox, I have the impression that it occasionally takes quite long for NVDA to “focus”. Might there be some settings – in NVDA, Firefox or both – that can influence/expedite it? As a Braille display user, I would welcome an optional progress dot to ascertain whether or when that process is complete.

 

Thanks.

 

Cordelia  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Florian Iona?cu
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2019 5:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [Spam] Re: [nvda] NVDA announcing new opened windows

 

Hello Janet, I think it would be great.

La 07.11.2019 18:22, Janet Brandly a scris:

Hello all,

 

Is there an NVDA setting which will have NVDA make a sound when a new window is opened? For example, it would be helpful if, when launching Firefox,  NVDA would make a sound when the window is open. Right now, I wait a few seconds and alt-tab around to see if a new window has opened. Window-Eyes used to do this and it was a great feature.

 

Thanks,

 

Janet


Re: NVDA announcing new opened windows

Florian Ionașcu
 

Hello Janet, I think it would be great.

La 07.11.2019 18:22, Janet Brandly a scris:

Hello all,

 

Is there an NVDA setting which will have NVDA make a sound when a new window is opened? For example, it would be helpful if, when launching Firefox,  NVDA would make a sound when the window is open. Right now, I wait a few seconds and alt-tab around to see if a new window has opened. Window-Eyes used to do this and it was a great feature.

 

Thanks,

 

Janet


Re: NVDA adding and changing settings

Gene
 

You can't ever assume anything when you issue a command without feedback.  I issue commands, now and then and, even though I issue them correctly, I have to issue them again.  But there is a way to check very easily.  Close the document or the program and see if you are asked if you want to save the changes.
 
And we are discussing what happens in terms of no feedback when you save an already saved document.  We don't know if the person is discussing that or discussing the lack of a save as dialog the first time a document is saved.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2019 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA adding and changing settings

I never ever hear document saved, never have ever since I started learning how to use doss in 1994 or so. But yeah control s and if you hear nothing you can assume the document has ben saved.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 7 Nov 2019, at 3:56, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi

I have been using screen readers for years, though not WindowEyes, and cannot remember a time when i relied on a “document saved” message appearing.  When editing a document in Word or Notepad, Control+s is the shortcut to save your document without exiting from it.  Using this shortcut implies that you want to save your document contents at that point. If you then use alt+f4 to close the document, it will close. 

If your document contains unsaved changes and you try to close it using Alt+f4, you will get a message asking if you want to save the document or not  .  At this point you have 3 choices:

you can press the ‘Save’ button – saves the document and closes it  

You can press the ‘don’t Save’ button – Closes the document without saving it. **

You can press the ‘Cancel’ button – returns focus to the document which remains open.

 

** Word contains options to auto-save a document at timed intervals whilst editing.  If this feature is active, when choosing not to save, you may get a further choice to disregard all changes or only those made since a particular auto-save point.

 

So, in a nutshell, if you want to be asked if you want to save or not, don’t bother with Control+s, just press alt+f4.   If there are unsaved changes you will get the Save/Don’t Save dialog, if you haven’t changed anything the document will close.

 

Cheers

Chris

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Grant Metcalf
Sent: 7 November 2019 07:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA adding and changing settings

 

Hi Arlene,

Using Notepad in Win7 the control-s command saves my document. What I do not hear in NVDA is the question “do you want to save the document” and the statement “document saved.”

I use Window-Eyes and it tells me what I want and like to hear! I was doing some editing earlier this evening using NVDA and found other differences on the QBraille display I use. If and when it becomes necessary to only use NVDA it will take some getting used to on my Win10 PC since it does not use Window-Eyes. There are days when Grandpa DOS wishes he could go back to DOS again!

Thanks for your reply.

Listening for His shout!

Grant


Re: NVDA announcing new opened windows

Sarah k Alawami
 

I personally just wait until the new window gains focus. A sound would be nice, but for me not necessary. Is the window not gaining focus for you?

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 7 Nov 2019, at 8:22, Janet Brandly wrote:

Hello all,

 

Is there an NVDA setting which will have NVDA make a sound when a new window is opened? For example, it would be helpful if, when launching Firefox,  NVDA would make a sound when the window is open. Right now, I wait a few seconds and alt-tab around to see if a new window has opened. Window-Eyes used to do this and it was a great feature.

 

Thanks,

 

Janet


NVDA announcing new opened windows

Janet Brandly
 

Hello all,

 

Is there an NVDA setting which will have NVDA make a sound when a new window is opened? For example, it would be helpful if, when launching Firefox,  NVDA would make a sound when the window is open. Right now, I wait a few seconds and alt-tab around to see if a new window has opened. Window-Eyes used to do this and it was a great feature.

 

Thanks,

 

Janet


Re: Accessible twitter clients?

Giles Turnbull
 

I've been using TWBlue for quite a while but before I did I used Easy Chirp,a website Twitter page which was very easy to use ... though not all actions were in obvious places! It still exists at https://www.easychirp.com/

Giles


Re: NVDA adding and changing settings

Gene
 

It sounds as though NVDA isn't reading the save as dialog when the file has never been saved before.  If the file has been saved before, there is no save as dialog.  The new version of the file is saved.  If it isn't, because the control s command didn't work for some reason, when you try to close the program, you will be asked if you want to save the changes, so you will know if you need to save the message.  but the save as dialog should be read when it appears when you first save the document.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2019 5:56 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA adding and changing settings

Hi

I have been using screen readers for years, though not WindowEyes, and cannot remember a time when i relied on a “document saved” message appearing.  When editing a document in Word or Notepad, Control+s is the shortcut to save your document without exiting from it.  Using this shortcut implies that you want to save your document contents at that point. If you then use alt+f4 to close the document, it will close. 

If your document contains unsaved changes and you try to close it using Alt+f4, you will get a message asking if you want to save the document or not  .  At this point you have 3 choices:

you can press the ‘Save’ button – saves the document and closes it  

You can press the ‘don’t Save’ button – Closes the document without saving it. **

You can press the ‘Cancel’ button – returns focus to the document which remains open.

 

** Word contains options to auto-save a document at timed intervals whilst editing.  If this feature is active, when choosing not to save, you may get a further choice to disregard all changes or only those made since a particular auto-save point.

 

So, in a nutshell, if you want to be asked if you want to save or not, don’t bother with Control+s, just press alt+f4.   If there are unsaved changes you will get the Save/Don’t Save dialog, if you haven’t changed anything the document will close.

 

Cheers

Chris

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Grant Metcalf
Sent: 7 November 2019 07:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA adding and changing settings

 

Hi Arlene,

Using Notepad in Win7 the control-s command saves my document. What I do not hear in NVDA is the question “do you want to save the document” and the statement “document saved.”

I use Window-Eyes and it tells me what I want and like to hear! I was doing some editing earlier this evening using NVDA and found other differences on the QBraille display I use. If and when it becomes necessary to only use NVDA it will take some getting used to on my Win10 PC since it does not use Window-Eyes. There are days when Grandpa DOS wishes he could go back to DOS again!

Thanks for your reply.

Listening for His shout!

Grant


Re: NVDA adding and changing settings

Sarah k Alawami
 

I never ever hear document saved, never have ever since I started learning how to use doss in 1994 or so. But yeah control s and if you hear nothing you can assume the document has ben saved.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 7 Nov 2019, at 3:56, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi

I have been using screen readers for years, though not WindowEyes, and cannot remember a time when i relied on a “document saved” message appearing.  When editing a document in Word or Notepad, Control+s is the shortcut to save your document without exiting from it.  Using this shortcut implies that you want to save your document contents at that point. If you then use alt+f4 to close the document, it will close. 

If your document contains unsaved changes and you try to close it using Alt+f4, you will get a message asking if you want to save the document or not  .  At this point you have 3 choices:

you can press the ‘Save’ button – saves the document and closes it  

You can press the ‘don’t Save’ button – Closes the document without saving it. **

You can press the ‘Cancel’ button – returns focus to the document which remains open.

 

** Word contains options to auto-save a document at timed intervals whilst editing.  If this feature is active, when choosing not to save, you may get a further choice to disregard all changes or only those made since a particular auto-save point.

 

So, in a nutshell, if you want to be asked if you want to save or not, don’t bother with Control+s, just press alt+f4.   If there are unsaved changes you will get the Save/Don’t Save dialog, if you haven’t changed anything the document will close.

 

Cheers

Chris

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Grant Metcalf
Sent: 7 November 2019 07:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA adding and changing settings

 

Hi Arlene,

Using Notepad in Win7 the control-s command saves my document. What I do not hear in NVDA is the question “do you want to save the document” and the statement “document saved.”

I use Window-Eyes and it tells me what I want and like to hear! I was doing some editing earlier this evening using NVDA and found other differences on the QBraille display I use. If and when it becomes necessary to only use NVDA it will take some getting used to on my Win10 PC since it does not use Window-Eyes. There are days when Grandpa DOS wishes he could go back to DOS again!

Thanks for your reply.

Listening for His shout!

Grant