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how can I set symbol pronounciation for special case?

Samuel Kacer
 

Hello,

I find myself reading math a lot and very commonparticular in propositional logic and proofs is to differentiate two variables that are related but different by putting a single quote at the end of one of them. Example:
x and x' (read by symbol to notice the difference)

In math, The secon would be read as "x prime".

If you can see then it is easy to notice the distinction, but since screen readers try to avoid reading irrelevant information, this is skipped by default.

I noticed NVDA allows you to set symbol pronunciation including for special cases like being sentence ending or phrase ending, etc.

What I'd like to achieve is when a single quote is at the end of a word and pronunciation level is most, for NVDA to read it as "word prime". 

I tried several different things, but none of them achieved this.

I know I can make it so single quotes are read at most level, but then it will be read out when it isnt relevant to me. I just want to know about it when it is at the end of a word.

Really appreciate if someone can help with this. 

Thanks,
Sam


locked Re: Menus In New Microsoft Edge

 

Forgot to note:  ALT+X is the menu button in the Original Edge, that is unquestionable.

You do not have the new Edge, and I'll bet if you do ALT+X, Open the Settings item, and scroll to the bottom of the General Settings, which opens initially, you are going to find, under the About this app section exactly what follows or a version number very close to it:

Microsoft Edge 44.18362.449.0
Microsoft EdgeHTML 18.18363

That is absolutely, positively not new Edge.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved andA not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


locked Re: Menus In New Microsoft Edge

 

Hi,
Alt+X is applicable if using old Edge, not new Edge.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ron Canazzi
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 10:19 AM
To: NVDA Official Group <nvda@groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Menus In New Microsoft Edge

Hi Group,

Remember a few days ago when I was saying that the alt + keystrokes weren't working in the new Microsoft Edge. I was saying that alt + F and alt + S weren't working to bring up the system menus or anything else. I guess that's because the proper keystroke is alt + X. It helps if you know the proper keystrokes.

The reason I am sending this message is because I got a half dozen references to what I should do to bring up the system menus and such. They were all wrong apparently.

Again, the proper keystroke is alt + X. That brings you up to all the items you usually get with traditional drop down or pull down menus in Firefox, the old Internet Explorer and such.
You then have to use a kind of combination tree view where you collapse and expand items with left/right arrow keys and also a kind of dialogue where you move up and down with arrow keys and press enter on items or note the proper keystrokes: control + I for favorites, Control + J for downloads, reading list Control + M and so on.

For settings, you have to press enter on that item and then it opens up the tabs such as general, advanced, privacy and security and so on.
The major issue with this menu structure is that you can't move by first letter navigation. I have over a hundred favorites in 14 folders. I have to arrow through these folders and bookmarks to find the one I want. Maybe this could be addressed by sending a bug report to Microsoft and seeing if they can do anything about it.

--

They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


locked Re: Menus In New Microsoft Edge

Ron Canazzi
 

Well how come that keystrokes works then!?


On 4/18/2020 1:24 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 01:18 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Again, the proper keystroke is alt + X.
No, Ron, it's not.  There is no ALT+X shortcut in new Edge.  Microsoft always publishes its keyboard shortcuts for its products, and new Edge is no exception:

Keyboard shortcuts in Microsoft Edge

ALT+F or ALT,DownArrow will bring up the Edge menu (just like it brings up the Chrome menu, Brave Menu, and all other Chromium-based browser menus).

You have something really, really weird going on, and that needs to be addressed.  But ALT+X is not a valid keyboard shortcut for new Edge, when working correctly, period.  It does nothing and is not documented as a keyboard shortcut for Chromium-based Edge.

 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


locked Re: Menus In New Microsoft Edge

 

On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 01:18 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Again, the proper keystroke is alt + X.
No, Ron, it's not.  There is no ALT+X shortcut in new Edge.  Microsoft always publishes its keyboard shortcuts for its products, and new Edge is no exception:

Keyboard shortcuts in Microsoft Edge

ALT+F or ALT,DownArrow will bring up the Edge menu (just like it brings up the Chrome menu, Brave Menu, and all other Chromium-based browser menus).

You have something really, really weird going on, and that needs to be addressed.  But ALT+X is not a valid keyboard shortcut for new Edge, when working correctly, period.  It does nothing and is not documented as a keyboard shortcut for Chromium-based Edge.

 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 


locked Menus In New Microsoft Edge

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

Remember a few days ago when I was saying that the alt + keystrokes weren't working in the new Microsoft Edge.  I was saying that alt + F and alt + S weren't working to bring up the system menus or anything else.  I guess that's because the proper keystroke is alt + X.  It helps if you know the proper keystrokes.

The reason I am sending this message is because I got a half dozen references to what I should do to bring up the system menus and such.  They were all wrong apparently.

Again, the proper keystroke is alt + X.  That brings you up to all the items you usually get with traditional drop down or pull down menus in Firefox, the old Internet Explorer and such.
You then have to use a kind of combination tree view where you collapse and expand items with left/right arrow keys and also a kind of dialogue where you move up and down with arrow keys and press enter on items or note the proper keystrokes: control + I for favorites, Control + J for downloads, reading list Control + M and so on.

For settings, you have to press enter on that item and then it opens up the tabs such as general, advanced, privacy and security and so on.
The major issue with this menu structure is that you can't move by first letter navigation. I have over a hundred favorites in 14 folders.  I have to arrow through these folders and bookmarks to find the one I want.  Maybe this could be addressed by sending a bug report to Microsoft and seeing if they can do anything about it.

--

They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Windows 10 Mail program and NVDA

Judith Pelaez <judithp1997@...>
 

Hey, no problem at all.

To be honest, I also kinda needed those shortcuts, so I just searched for them and put them in a word document.

 

Sent from            Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 7:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Mail program and NVDA

 

your welcome. its my pleasure to help others.

God bless you all!

 

On 4/18/20, Cordelia Scharpf <CScharpf@...> wrote:

> Judith and Zahra: Thanks for your tips, which were indeed helpful. I will do

> my memorizing then (smile).

> To anybody who might know: Please correct me if I am wrong. It looks as

> though Windows 10 does not offer an overall option that would

> display/announce keyboard shortcuts. I found this quite helpful running

> Windows 7 and a German screen reader, the latter is no longer being

> supported. Having the shortcuts displayed or announced right next to an

> option expedited memorizing. Users could  choose to turn it on or off. Might

> this be a useful toggle to be implemented in NVDA someday?

> Best,

> Cordelia

> -----Original Message-----

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of zahra

> Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 12:49 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Mail program and NVDA

> hi.

> i searched in google:

> how to use windows 10 mail?

> hear you are the link. hope that helps.

> https://www.windowscentral.com/how-get-started-mail-app-windows-10

> On 4/18/20, Cordelia Scharpf <CScharpf@...> wrote:

>> Hi:

>> 

>> I am new to using Mail (Windows 10) and cannot seem to find  shortcuts to

>> quickly manage emails. Where do I find them, in settings or anywhere

>> else?

>> 

>> Furthermore, I wonder how to activate the context menu key. It doesn't do

>> anything whereas all other function keys work all right. I was hoping

>> that

>> by using the Context Menu key I could access a menu showing the shortcuts

>> relevant for Mail, for example.

>> 

>> Puzzled,

>> Cordelia

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> --

> By God,

> were I given all the seven heavens

> with all they contain

> in order that

> I may disobey God

> by depriving an ant

> from the husk of a grain of barley,

> I would not do it.

> imam ali

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 


Re: Groups.io: Managing your group subscription and e-mailing options #adminnotice

 

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Re: Windows 10 Mail program and NVDA

 

your welcome. its my pleasure to help others.
God bless you all!

On 4/18/20, Cordelia Scharpf <CScharpf@t-online.de> wrote:
Judith and Zahra: Thanks for your tips, which were indeed helpful. I will do
my memorizing then (smile).

To anybody who might know: Please correct me if I am wrong. It looks as
though Windows 10 does not offer an overall option that would
display/announce keyboard shortcuts. I found this quite helpful running
Windows 7 and a German screen reader, the latter is no longer being
supported. Having the shortcuts displayed or announced right next to an
option expedited memorizing. Users could choose to turn it on or off. Might
this be a useful toggle to be implemented in NVDA someday?

Best,
Cordelia


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 12:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Mail program and NVDA

hi.
i searched in google:
how to use windows 10 mail?
hear you are the link. hope that helps.
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-get-started-mail-app-windows-10

On 4/18/20, Cordelia Scharpf <CScharpf@t-online.de> wrote:
Hi:

I am new to using Mail (Windows 10) and cannot seem to find shortcuts to
quickly manage emails. Where do I find them, in settings or anywhere
else?

Furthermore, I wonder how to activate the context menu key. It doesn't do
anything whereas all other function keys work all right. I was hoping
that
by using the Context Menu key I could access a menu showing the shortcuts
relevant for Mail, for example.

Puzzled,
Cordelia





--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali






--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Windows 10 Mail program and NVDA

Cordelia Scharpf
 

Judith and Zahra: Thanks for your tips, which were indeed helpful. I will do my memorizing then (smile).

To anybody who might know: Please correct me if I am wrong. It looks as though Windows 10 does not offer an overall option that would display/announce keyboard shortcuts. I found this quite helpful running Windows 7 and a German screen reader, the latter is no longer being supported. Having the shortcuts displayed or announced right next to an option expedited memorizing. Users could choose to turn it on or off. Might this be a useful toggle to be implemented in NVDA someday?

Best,
Cordelia

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 12:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 Mail program and NVDA

hi.
i searched in google:
how to use windows 10 mail?
hear you are the link. hope that helps.
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-get-started-mail-app-windows-10

On 4/18/20, Cordelia Scharpf <CScharpf@t-online.de> wrote:
Hi:

I am new to using Mail (Windows 10) and cannot seem to find shortcuts to
quickly manage emails. Where do I find them, in settings or anywhere else?

Furthermore, I wonder how to activate the context menu key. It doesn't do
anything whereas all other function keys work all right. I was hoping that
by using the Context Menu key I could access a menu showing the shortcuts
relevant for Mail, for example.

Puzzled,
Cordelia





--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: How can I get the date from a Braille display?

Daniel Gartmann
 

 

Hello,

 

I got this solved for now by adding an input gesture attached to the Braille Display (Dots 2,3,4,5,7 Chord). This seems to register when I press it 2 or 3 times.

 

Daniel

 

 

Fra: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> På vegne af André-Abush Clause via groups.io
Sendt: 15. april 2020 04:41
Til: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Emne: Re: [nvda] How can I get the date from a Braille display?

 

Hi Daniel,

Sorry for the late reply.

With Braille Extender, you have a special command to show hour & date. By default, on Freedom Scientific displays, it's mapped to dots(1+2+5+7)+space.

I'll try to work around the possibility to emulate shortcuts pressed several time quickly.

HTH,

André

 

Le 09/04/2020 à 16:47, Daniel Gartmann a écrit :

 

Hi all,

 

On a laptop keyboard, I am able to get the date by pressing NVDA F12 twice quickly.

 

On my Freedom Scientific Focus40 Blue, I can’t seem to do two presses quickly of NVDA+F12. The second press of F12 just sends an F12 through and I get the Save As dialog.

 

Any suggestions greatly appreciated.

 

Daniel

 


Re: Windows 10 Mail program and NVDA

 

hi.
i searched in google:
how to use windows 10 mail?
hear you are the link. hope that helps.
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-get-started-mail-app-windows-10

On 4/18/20, Cordelia Scharpf <CScharpf@t-online.de> wrote:
Hi:

I am new to using Mail (Windows 10) and cannot seem to find shortcuts to
quickly manage emails. Where do I find them, in settings or anywhere else?

Furthermore, I wonder how to activate the context menu key. It doesn't do
anything whereas all other function keys work all right. I was hoping that
by using the Context Menu key I could access a menu showing the shortcuts
relevant for Mail, for example.

Puzzled,
Cordelia




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Windows 10 Mail program and NVDA

Judith Pelaez <judithp1997@...>
 

Hi,

I found these on Microsoft website.
I hope they are useful.

On Apr 18, 2020, at 3:13 AM, Cordelia Scharpf <CScharpf@t-online.de> wrote:

Hi:

I am new to using Mail (Windows 10) and cannot seem to find shortcuts to
quickly manage emails. Where do I find them, in settings or anywhere else?

Furthermore, I wonder how to activate the context menu key. It doesn't do
anything whereas all other function keys work all right. I was hoping that
by using the Context Menu key I could access a menu showing the shortcuts
relevant for Mail, for example.

Puzzled,
Cordelia




Windows 10 Mail program and NVDA

Cordelia Scharpf
 

Hi:

I am new to using Mail (Windows 10) and cannot seem to find shortcuts to
quickly manage emails. Where do I find them, in settings or anywhere else?

Furthermore, I wonder how to activate the context menu key. It doesn't do
anything whereas all other function keys work all right. I was hoping that
by using the Context Menu key I could access a menu showing the shortcuts
relevant for Mail, for example.

Puzzled,
Cordelia


Re: links in email with thunderbird

Gene
 

But its good to keep the k command in mind.  I’ve seen times on web pages where links read more intelligibly when you use the k command than when you tab.  Also, if you just want to move by link, you will do so and all other controls will be skipped.  In addition, I’ve seen pages where, when you tab, you lose your place on the page and you don’t with k.
 
Gene
-
----
Original Message -----

From: Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] links in email with thunderbird
 
Henk,


Your advice to turn off the status bar when reading a mail message, so
that you can tab through and get intelligible links worked like a charm.
Thanks again!


Mary

On 4/17/2020 9:05 AM, Henk Mulder wrote:
> Hi Mary,
>
> I think this also has to do with the extra chatter in the statusbar.
> If I open a mail with the statusbar disabled, then NVDA will read the
> label of the link when I tab to it. If I enable the statusbar and tab
> to a link, then the URL is shown in the statusbar, and that is what's
> being read.
> So I think that disabling the statusbar will solve your problem.
> Note that, if messages are opened in a new window, it will not
> automatically use the same setting as for the main window of
> Thunderbird. Therefore you might have to adjust this setting for (1)
> the main window, (2) the window for reading messages, and (3) the
> window for composing messages.
>
> Best,
> Henk
>
> Op 17/04/2020 om 17:16 schreef Mary Otten:
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>> Until this most recent update to T-bird, the one that started the
>> thread on all that extra chatter, it had been the case that if you
>> opened a message and read it, or if you tabbed through the open
>> message looking for links, those links which had English text
>> associated with the url would announce the same way, i.e. the English
>> text, not the http:// etc would be spoken by NVDA. Now, however, if I
>> get a message and tab through to quickly find the link I know is
>> there, all I get are the readouts of urls, which are not helpful at
>> all. If I read through the message, I hear the actual English text,
>> not the url, but that is inefficient as heck, since in a lot of
>> instances, I know there are titles to stories, for instance in a
>> newsletter, that I want to flip through, rather than listening to
>> them all plus the blurbs after each one.
>>
>>
>> I hope this description makes sense. What can I do to get my tabbing
>> to read the link label in English as it does when you read straight
>> through, rather than read the html http:// stuff?
>>
>>
>> Mary
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>



Re: links in email with thunderbird

Mary Otten
 

Henk,


Your advice to turn off the status bar when reading a mail message, so that you can tab through and get intelligible links worked like a charm. Thanks again!


Mary

On 4/17/2020 9:05 AM, Henk Mulder wrote:
Hi Mary,

I think this also has to do with the extra chatter in the statusbar.
If I open a mail with the statusbar disabled, then NVDA will read the label of the link when I tab to it. If I enable the statusbar and tab to a link, then the URL is shown in the statusbar, and that is what's being read.
So I think that disabling the statusbar will solve your problem.
Note that, if messages are opened in a new window, it will not automatically use the same setting as for the main window of Thunderbird. Therefore you might have to adjust this setting for (1) the main window, (2) the window for reading messages, and (3) the window for composing messages.

Best,
Henk

Op 17/04/2020 om 17:16 schreef Mary Otten:
Hi all,


Until this most recent update to T-bird, the one that started the thread on all that extra chatter, it had been the case that if you opened a message and read it, or if you tabbed through the open message looking for links, those links which had English text associated with the url would announce the same way, i.e. the English text, not the http:// etc would be spoken by NVDA. Now, however, if I get a message and tab through to quickly find the link I know is there, all I get are the readouts of urls, which are not helpful at all. If I read through the message, I hear the actual English text, not the url, but that is inefficient as heck, since in a lot of instances, I know there are titles to stories, for instance in a newsletter, that I want to flip through, rather than listening to them all plus the blurbs after each one.


I hope this description makes sense. What can I do to get my tabbing to read the link label in English as it does when you read straight through, rather than read the html http:// stuff?


Mary






Re: links in email with thunderbird

Stephen
 

The truth is out there.

----- Original Message -----
From: Henk Mulder <teakevw@gmail.com>
Reply-To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: 4/18/2020 2:05:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] links in email with thunderbird
________________________________________________________________________________

Hi Mary,

I think this also has to do with the extra chatter in the statusbar.
If I open a mail with the statusbar disabled, then NVDA will read the
label of the link when I tab to it. If I enable the statusbar and tab to
a link, then the URL is shown in the statusbar, and that is what's being
read.
So I think that disabling the statusbar will solve your problem.
Note that, if messages are opened in a new window, it will not
automatically use the same setting as for the main window of
Thunderbird. Therefore you might have to adjust this setting for (1) the
main window, (2) the window for reading messages, and (3) the window for
composing messages.

Best,
Henk

Op 17/04/2020 om 17:16 schreef Mary Otten:
Hi all,


Until this most recent update to T-bird, the one that started the
thread on all that extra chatter, it had been the case that if you
opened a message and read it, or if you tabbed through the open
message looking for links, those links which had English text
associated with the url would announce the same way, i.e. the English
text, not the http:// etc would be spoken by NVDA. Now, however, if I
get a message and tab through to quickly find the link I know is
there, all I get are the readouts of urls, which are not helpful at
all. If I read through the message, I hear the actual English text,
not the url, but that is inefficient as heck, since in a lot of
instances, I know there are titles to stories, for instance in a
newsletter, that I want to flip through, rather than listening to them
all plus the blurbs after each one.


I hope this description makes sense. What can I do to get my tabbing
to read the link label in English as it does when you read straight
through, rather than read the html http:// stuff?


Mary





Re: Trying to learn NVDA for the Microsoft Flight simulator and the add on program Ideal Flight Special Edition

Andy B.
 

 

 

I wanted to try this with the current version, but can’t find it anywhere. Does anyone know where to find it?

 

From: David Csercsics
Sent: Friday, April 17, 2020 12:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Trying to learn NVDA for the Microsoft Flight simulator and the add on program Ideal Flight Special Edition

 

Neat, but I guess it sounds like I should wait for the October updates,

and possibly the new XBox with accessibility fixes. I'm guessing you use

one of the phone OCR apps? And then point it at the screen to read the

sim stuff? That would not really be doable here, as I don't habitually

have a monitor connected, which generally causes windows to be confused

about screen resolution, among other things.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: strange behavior with Microsoft sapi 5 voices and NVDA

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi here is a url to download a little utility, this is supposed to fix any problems with sapy voices. use at Your own risk. url below.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ame5fFtwuKO3zxpx6x9pgVtswi7n?e=YYREWO

On 17/04/2020 05:17, Tony Ballou wrote:
Hey Gene,
There's another thought that crossed my mind as well, the utility that you're speaking of I seem to remember hearing or reading something about such a thing quite a few years back but have no idea if it's still in existence. I'll be ringing Microsoft sometime tomorrow, if I can't find this utility. Thanks for bringing that up.
Tony
On 4/16/2020 8:38 PM, Gene wrote:
I’m not at all sure reinstalling will accomplish anything.  There is a way to repair SAPI 5, which I don’t know if it will help.  If the voices work before login, it appears they don’t need reinstallation. I wonder if it is a registry problem.  While I don’t know, maybe the repair procedure or utility might correct that.  The voices clearly work.  They work on the login screen.  Here again, I don’t know but reinstalling SAPI voices might be something to do after running the repair.  Also, if you are going to fool around trying various things, I wonder if and how you would set the voice to something that isn’t SAPI 5 before login so that if trying things makes things worse, you will have speech on that screen.
I don’t know what was done to your computer, but I believe that even for something unrelated to software, if a computer is brought into a shop, routine diagnostic tests and maintenance may be done and I suspect something was done that caused the problems.  Those who have more technical knowledge and know what shops routinely do may want to comment.  In thinking about what you are describing and about a shop I used to use years ago, I’m beginning to think that if you take a computer in for a specific problem and it wrks properly aside from that, that it might be a good idea to instruct the shop to do nothing else.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Tony Ballou <mailto:cyberpro224@outlook.com>
*Sent:* Thursday, April 16, 2020 2:48 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] strange behavior with Microsoft sapi 5 voices and NVDA
Hi Jackie,


That's something I was thinking about possibly having to do, we're on
the same wavelength. Trust me I already as they say, googled it so we
don't even have to go there.  Needless to say, the hits were enormous,
and the answer is the proverbial needle in a haystack. Where can you
find the actual executable file for performing the re-install, that's
the question now.

Tony

On 4/16/2020 3:37 PM, Jackie wrote:

Tony, since this clearly affects more than just NVDA, let me suggest a
reinstall of your SAPI5 voices.

On 4/16/20, Tony Ballou <cyberpro224@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi Jackie,


I just had the power switch repaired, that was to my knowledge the only
hardware issue going on.  As far as the problem goes, it's with all of
the sapi 5 voices including Neospeech.  As for the log on screen,
suggestion, I checked that out, first, and it would work if the problem
was actually there.  The problem occurs after things get past the
log on
screen.


Tony

On 4/16/2020 3:16 PM, Jackie wrote:
Tony, what sort of hardware repairs were done on your machine? Is
there any possibility your activation for the Neospeech voices were
broken by that?

On 4/16/20, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
How do you mean they were compramised I'm not really clear as to
what's
going on here.

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On 16 Apr 2020, at 10:42, Tony Ballou wrote:

Houdy folks,


Thanks for coming through for me over the weekend with my friend's
computer issue.  The fixes are in place, and everything is as it
should be on that score. Now I've got one of my own that's got me
baffled. Here's what's going down.


     I had some hardware repairs done on my desktop just before
we were
all thrown into chaos. Everything was fixed internally and all's
gravy
on that side of the ledger.  However, there is a strange thing going
on with Microsoft's Sapi 5 voices and NVDA that's got me
scratching my
head.  Please bare with me as I try to explain this because it's a
new one on me.


When I initially log on to enter my password, the proper voice
that I
use which is neospeech Paul comes on as it should. However, now this
is where things get dicey. Once past the log on screen the Sapi 5
voices loose all functionality, and I have to switch to the windows
one core voices for things to function in somewhat of a proper
manner.
I've tried all of the tricks that I know to put things right, but
nothing works.


I wouldn't normally put up a fuss about it, because I can use
the one
core voices just fine for most tasks. however, Some of the games
that I play to help keep me sane during this crazy time that we're
living in like chess, and cribbage also use the Microsoft Sapi 5
voices, and they've all been compromised as well. What's
happened, and
does anyone have a fix for this strange issue? Any help would be
appreciated.  Thanks much and everyone stay safe.


Tony




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See this topic I posted in the Chat Subgroup earlier today:  
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