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Re: NVDA Buzzing and Speaking in a Compressed Way During Keyboard Input on a Fast Laptop

Luke Davis
 

On Sat, 28 Dec 2019, Ralf Kefferpuetz wrote:

Wow, that sounds really strange. I'm sure somebody already gave you the hint to disable the audio enhancements for your
realtek playback speaker device?
Got it in one!

I completely forgot about that setting, since I don't have it on my primary laptop. Well, former primary laptop.

That took care of the issue, and all it cost was a 10DB loss of maximum volume which enhancements seems to provide.

Thanks Ralf, and to others who offered help; and blessings for 2020 to all on this list!

Luke


Re: Add-ons website: error 502 when trying to download add-ons

 

Hi,

All resolved. Thank you.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 6:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Add-ons website: error 502 when trying to download add-ons

 

Hello NVDA users,

 

Due to important infrastructure changes happening around add-ons management, you’ll get error 502 (gateway error) when trying to download add-ons from community add-ons website. The community expects this to be a temporary problem and will let you all know when downloads are working again. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Cheers,

Joseph


Add-ons website: error 502 when trying to download add-ons

 

Hello NVDA users,

 

Due to important infrastructure changes happening around add-ons management, you’ll get error 502 (gateway error) when trying to download add-ons from community add-ons website. The community expects this to be a temporary problem and will let you all know when downloads are working again. Sorry for the inconvenience.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Announcing Capital Letters

Colin Phelan <colinphelan1@...>
 

Thanks Jean,

I have got it now and infact using caps lock as the NVDA key prevents turning it on by accident in many ways.

I also managed to simulate it by pressing caps lock twice so thanks to all for persevering with my ramblings.

Kind Regards

Colin

  

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 28 December 2019 20:37
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

 

If caps lock is on, you will hear a beep if you press shift and type a letter.  If you do that, the letter will also be lower case while all letters typed with the shift key not depressed will be upper case.  If you don't want to accidentally turn on caps lock, set NVDA to use it as an NVDA key.  There is a check box for doing so in the keyboard settings. 

If you do that, you will need to press it quickly twice to turn it on and quickly twice to turn it off.  Pressing it only once causes it to function as an NVDA key. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 2:02 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

 

Thanks Chris, yes if character echo is on then it works but I can't write documents listening to every character typed.
Is this the only way I get feedback to recognise if caps log maybe on accidently?
Thanks for your assistance.
Kind Regards
Colin
 

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: 28 December 2019 18:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

Hi Colin
It should work if you have character echo on (NVDA+NumRow 2) when typing, if you just use word echo (NVDA+NumRow 3), you won't hear the pitch change.

Cheers
Chris

On 28/12/2019, Colin Phelan <colinphelan1@...> wrote:
> Thanks All, interestingly the beep and pitch change work when I review
> a typed word with the left and right arrows but not when I am typing
> so unless there is a separate setting for typing feedback maybe it is
> to do with my synth.
> Kind Regards
> Colin
>  unless
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Chris Mullins
> Sent: 26 December 2019 23:48
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
>
> Hi
> Maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years then.  I use 50% to
> make it obvious because I find 30% can be indistinct in some cases.
> At least when Colin experiences the output for whatever synthesizer he
> uses, I'm sure he is capable of adjusting the setting to his personal preference.
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
> On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> That is not correct.  Fifty percent is extrremely too high pitched
>> for some synthesizers.  It may be alright for others.  the default is
>> 30 percent and I wouldn't assume that that is remotely correct for a
>> lot of synthesizers.
>> also, these settings are all on by default and they don't change from
>> one synthesizer to another.  It is very unlikely that a new user
>> would turn them
>> off.   Therefore, the problem is very likely related to the synthesizer
>> or
>> some problem with the NVDA installation.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Chris Mullins
>> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 3:04 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
>>
>>
>> Hi
>> Use NVDA+Control+k to open the Keyboard settings dialog and ensure
>> the check box entitled "Beep if typing lowercase when caps lock is
>> on" is checked.  This will cause a beep to sound if you type a
>> shifted letter, giving you a big clue that caps lock is on."
>> Secondly, for each synthesizer you use, press NVDA+Control+v to open
>> the Voice Settings dialog and ensure the edit box entitled "Capital
>> pitch change perCentage" is set to at least 50%  This will make it
>> obvious that you are typing a capital letter or reviewing one when
>> reading letter by letter.  Note: Ensure you  have "Speak typed
>> characters" active (NVDA+NumRow 2) to get this feedback when typing.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Chris
>>
>> On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>> I suspect you are using the illegal add-on which isn’t supported on
>>> the list.  the list can’t, for legal reasons, support oor assist in
>>> using such software.  If you want Eloquence that functions
>>> properlhy, you can ppurchase either an add-on for it or an MSAPI
>>> version of Eloquence.  I and other list members would be happy to
>>> provide more information.  You can try demos of both, if you wish.
>>>
>>> Meantime, trhy switching to another synthesizer to see if capital
>>> notification works properly.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Colin Phelan
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:58 PM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
>>>
>>> You might be onto something there I am using eloquence which did not
>>> come as part of the initial NVDA download thoughts welcome and
>>> thanks Colin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26 Dec 2019, at 6:44 pm, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>   You should hear a beep if the caps lock is on and you use the
>>> shift key and type a letter.  NVDA by default raises the pitch of
>>> capital letters.
>>> If
>>> you don’t hear that, what synthesizer are you using.  The first
>>> thing we need to determine is whether the problem is a limitation of
>>> the synthesizer or some problem perhaps with the NVDA installation.
>>>
>>>   Gene
>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>   From: Colin Phelan
>>>   Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:33 PM
>>>   To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>   Subject: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
>>>
>>>   I am new to NVDA and recognise this is a basic question, however,
>>> I cannot seem to get NVDA to give me feedback with regard to if I am
>>> typing capital letters which is a concern as caps lock may be on by
>>> accident.
>>>
>>>   Please confirm settings to be ticked and how to ensure settings
>>> are saved in case this is the issue.
>>>
>>>   Thanks
>>>
>>>   Colin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Announcing Capital Letters

Gene
 

If caps lock is on, you will hear a beep if you press shift and type a letter.  If you do that, the letter will also be lower case while all letters typed with the shift key not depressed will be upper case.  If you don't want to accidentally turn on caps lock, set NVDA to use it as an NVDA key.  There is a check box for doing so in the keyboard settings. 
If you do that, you will need to press it quickly twice to turn it on and quickly twice to turn it off.  Pressing it only once causes it to function as an NVDA key. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 2:02 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

Thanks Chris, yes if character echo is on then it works but I can't write documents listening to every character typed.
Is this the only way I get feedback to recognise if caps log maybe on accidently?
Thanks for your assistance.
Kind Regards
Colin
 

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: 28 December 2019 18:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

Hi Colin
It should work if you have character echo on (NVDA+NumRow 2) when typing, if you just use word echo (NVDA+NumRow 3), you won't hear the pitch change.

Cheers
Chris

On 28/12/2019, Colin Phelan <colinphelan1@...> wrote:
> Thanks All, interestingly the beep and pitch change work when I review
> a typed word with the left and right arrows but not when I am typing
> so unless there is a separate setting for typing feedback maybe it is
> to do with my synth.
> Kind Regards
> Colin
>  unless
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Chris Mullins
> Sent: 26 December 2019 23:48
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
>
> Hi
> Maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years then.  I use 50% to
> make it obvious because I find 30% can be indistinct in some cases.
> At least when Colin experiences the output for whatever synthesizer he
> uses, I'm sure he is capable of adjusting the setting to his personal preference.
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
> On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> That is not correct.  Fifty percent is extrremely too high pitched
>> for some synthesizers.  It may be alright for others.  the default is
>> 30 percent and I wouldn't assume that that is remotely correct for a
>> lot of synthesizers.
>> also, these settings are all on by default and they don't change from
>> one synthesizer to another.  It is very unlikely that a new user
>> would turn them
>> off.   Therefore, the problem is very likely related to the synthesizer
>> or
>> some problem with the NVDA installation.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Chris Mullins
>> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 3:04 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
>>
>>
>> Hi
>> Use NVDA+Control+k to open the Keyboard settings dialog and ensure
>> the check box entitled "Beep if typing lowercase when caps lock is
>> on" is checked.  This will cause a beep to sound if you type a
>> shifted letter, giving you a big clue that caps lock is on."
>> Secondly, for each synthesizer you use, press NVDA+Control+v to open
>> the Voice Settings dialog and ensure the edit box entitled "Capital
>> pitch change perCentage" is set to at least 50%  This will make it
>> obvious that you are typing a capital letter or reviewing one when
>> reading letter by letter.  Note: Ensure you  have "Speak typed
>> characters" active (NVDA+NumRow 2) to get this feedback when typing.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Chris
>>
>> On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>> I suspect you are using the illegal add-on which isn’t supported on
>>> the list.  the list can’t, for legal reasons, support oor assist in
>>> using such software.  If you want Eloquence that functions
>>> properlhy, you can ppurchase either an add-on for it or an MSAPI
>>> version of Eloquence.  I and other list members would be happy to
>>> provide more information.  You can try demos of both, if you wish.
>>>
>>> Meantime, trhy switching to another synthesizer to see if capital
>>> notification works properly.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Colin Phelan
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:58 PM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
>>>
>>> You might be onto something there I am using eloquence which did not
>>> come as part of the initial NVDA download thoughts welcome and
>>> thanks Colin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26 Dec 2019, at 6:44 pm, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>   You should hear a beep if the caps lock is on and you use the
>>> shift key and type a letter.  NVDA by default raises the pitch of
>>> capital letters.
>>> If
>>> you don’t hear that, what synthesizer are you using.  The first
>>> thing we need to determine is whether the problem is a limitation of
>>> the synthesizer or some problem perhaps with the NVDA installation.
>>>
>>>   Gene
>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>   From: Colin Phelan
>>>   Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:33 PM
>>>   To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>   Subject: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
>>>
>>>   I am new to NVDA and recognise this is a basic question, however,
>>> I cannot seem to get NVDA to give me feedback with regard to if I am
>>> typing capital letters which is a concern as caps lock may be on by
>>> accident.
>>>
>>>   Please confirm settings to be ticked and how to ensure settings
>>> are saved in case this is the issue.
>>>
>>>   Thanks
>>>
>>>   Colin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Announcing Capital Letters

Gene
 

You won't hear the pitch change because you won't hear any individual characters echoed when you type, only words and you never hear the pitch change when a word is read.  If you have both character echo and word echo on, you will hear the pitch change because you are hearing individual letters as well as words.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 12:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

Hi Colin
It should work if you have character echo on (NVDA+NumRow 2) when
typing, if you just use word echo (NVDA+NumRow 3), you won't hear the
pitch change.

Cheers
Chris

On 28/12/2019, Colin Phelan <colinphelan1@...> wrote:
> Thanks All, interestingly the beep and pitch change work when I review a
> typed word with the left and right arrows but not when I am typing so unless
> there is a separate setting for typing feedback maybe it is to do with my
> synth.
> Kind Regards
> Colin
>  unless
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
> Mullins
> Sent: 26 December 2019 23:48
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
>
> Hi
> Maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years then.  I use 50% to make it
> obvious because I find 30% can be indistinct in some cases.
> At least when Colin experiences the output for whatever synthesizer he uses,
> I'm sure he is capable of adjusting the setting to his personal preference.
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
> On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> That is not correct.  Fifty percent is extrremely too high pitched for
>> some synthesizers.  It may be alright for others.  the default is 30
>> percent and I wouldn't assume that that is remotely correct for a lot of
>> synthesizers.
>> also, these settings are all on by default and they don't change from
>> one synthesizer to another.  It is very unlikely that a new user would
>> turn them
>> off.   Therefore, the problem is very likely related to the synthesizer
>> or
>> some problem with the NVDA installation.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Chris Mullins
>> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 3:04 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
>>
>>
>> Hi
>> Use NVDA+Control+k to open the Keyboard settings dialog and ensure the
>> check box entitled "Beep if typing lowercase when caps lock is on" is
>> checked.  This will cause a beep to sound if you type a shifted
>> letter, giving you a big clue that caps lock is on."
>> Secondly, for each synthesizer you use, press NVDA+Control+v to open
>> the Voice Settings dialog and ensure the edit box entitled "Capital
>> pitch change perCentage" is set to at least 50%  This will make it
>> obvious that you are typing a capital letter or reviewing one when
>> reading letter by letter.  Note: Ensure you  have "Speak typed
>> characters" active (NVDA+NumRow 2) to get this feedback when typing.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Chris
>>
>> On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>> I suspect you are using the illegal add-on which isn’t supported on
>>> the list.  the list can’t, for legal reasons, support oor assist in
>>> using such software.  If you want Eloquence that functions properlhy,
>>> you can ppurchase either an add-on for it or an MSAPI version of
>>> Eloquence.  I and other list members would be happy to provide more
>>> information.  You can try demos of both, if you wish.
>>>
>>> Meantime, trhy switching to another synthesizer to see if capital
>>> notification works properly.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Colin Phelan
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:58 PM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
>>>
>>> You might be onto something there I am using eloquence which did not
>>> come as part of the initial NVDA download thoughts welcome and thanks
>>> Colin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26 Dec 2019, at 6:44 pm, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>   You should hear a beep if the caps lock is on and you use the shift
>>> key and type a letter.  NVDA by default raises the pitch of capital
>>> letters.
>>> If
>>> you don’t hear that, what synthesizer are you using.  The first thing
>>> we need to determine is whether the problem is a limitation of the
>>> synthesizer or some problem perhaps with the NVDA installation.
>>>
>>>   Gene
>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>   From: Colin Phelan
>>>   Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:33 PM
>>>   To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>   Subject: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
>>>
>>>   I am new to NVDA and recognise this is a basic question, however, I
>>> cannot seem to get NVDA to give me feedback with regard to if I am
>>> typing capital letters which is a concern as caps lock may be on by
>>> accident.
>>>
>>>   Please confirm settings to be ticked and how to ensure settings are
>>> saved in case this is the issue.
>>>
>>>   Thanks
>>>
>>>   Colin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Announcing Capital Letters

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Under the keyboard settings is the check box called Beep if typing lowercase letters when caps lock is on or not.


If not check it and see if that does the trick.


Gene nz

On 29/12/2019 9:02 am, Colin Phelan wrote:
Thanks Chris, yes if character echo is on then it works but I can't write documents listening to every character typed.
Is this the only way I get feedback to recognise if caps log maybe on accidently?
Thanks for your assistance.
Kind Regards
Colin

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: 28 December 2019 18:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

Hi Colin
It should work if you have character echo on (NVDA+NumRow 2) when typing, if you just use word echo (NVDA+NumRow 3), you won't hear the pitch change.

Cheers
Chris

On 28/12/2019, Colin Phelan <colinphelan1@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks All, interestingly the beep and pitch change work when I review
a typed word with the left and right arrows but not when I am typing
so unless there is a separate setting for typing feedback maybe it is
to do with my synth.
Kind Regards
Colin
unless

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Chris Mullins
Sent: 26 December 2019 23:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

Hi
Maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years then. I use 50% to
make it obvious because I find 30% can be indistinct in some cases.
At least when Colin experiences the output for whatever synthesizer he
uses, I'm sure he is capable of adjusting the setting to his personal preference.

Cheers
Chris

On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
That is not correct. Fifty percent is extrremely too high pitched
for some synthesizers. It may be alright for others. the default is
30 percent and I wouldn't assume that that is remotely correct for a
lot of synthesizers.
also, these settings are all on by default and they don't change from
one synthesizer to another. It is very unlikely that a new user
would turn them
off. Therefore, the problem is very likely related to the synthesizer
or
some problem with the NVDA installation.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 3:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters


Hi
Use NVDA+Control+k to open the Keyboard settings dialog and ensure
the check box entitled "Beep if typing lowercase when caps lock is
on" is checked. This will cause a beep to sound if you type a
shifted letter, giving you a big clue that caps lock is on."
Secondly, for each synthesizer you use, press NVDA+Control+v to open
the Voice Settings dialog and ensure the edit box entitled "Capital
pitch change perCentage" is set to at least 50% This will make it
obvious that you are typing a capital letter or reviewing one when
reading letter by letter. Note: Ensure you have "Speak typed
characters" active (NVDA+NumRow 2) to get this feedback when typing.

Cheers
Chris

On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I suspect you are using the illegal add-on which isn’t supported on
the list. the list can’t, for legal reasons, support oor assist in
using such software. If you want Eloquence that functions
properlhy, you can ppurchase either an add-on for it or an MSAPI
version of Eloquence. I and other list members would be happy to
provide more information. You can try demos of both, if you wish.

Meantime, trhy switching to another synthesizer to see if capital
notification works properly.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Colin Phelan
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

You might be onto something there I am using eloquence which did not
come as part of the initial NVDA download thoughts welcome and
thanks Colin



On 26 Dec 2019, at 6:44 pm, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:


You should hear a beep if the caps lock is on and you use the
shift key and type a letter. NVDA by default raises the pitch of
capital letters.
If
you don’t hear that, what synthesizer are you using. The first
thing we need to determine is whether the problem is a limitation of
the synthesizer or some problem perhaps with the NVDA installation.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Colin Phelan
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

I am new to NVDA and recognise this is a basic question, however,
I cannot seem to get NVDA to give me feedback with regard to if I am
typing capital letters which is a concern as caps lock may be on by
accident.

Please confirm settings to be ticked and how to ensure settings
are saved in case this is the issue.

Thanks

Colin
















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Re: Announcing Capital Letters

Gene
 

There isn't a separate setting for typing.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 10:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

Thanks All, interestingly the beep and pitch change work when I review a typed word with the left and right arrows but not when I am typing so unless there is a separate setting for typing feedback maybe it is to do with my synth.
Kind Regards
Colin
 unless

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: 26 December 2019 23:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

Hi
Maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years then.  I use 50% to make it obvious because I find 30% can be indistinct in some cases.
At least when Colin experiences the output for whatever synthesizer he uses, I'm sure he is capable of adjusting the setting to his personal preference.

Cheers
Chris

On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> That is not correct.  Fifty percent is extrremely too high pitched for
> some synthesizers.  It may be alright for others.  the default is 30
> percent and I wouldn't assume that that is remotely correct for a lot of synthesizers.
> also, these settings are all on by default and they don't change from
> one synthesizer to another.  It is very unlikely that a new user would turn them
> off.   Therefore, the problem is very likely related to the synthesizer or
> some problem with the NVDA installation.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Chris Mullins
> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 3:04 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
>
>
> Hi
> Use NVDA+Control+k to open the Keyboard settings dialog and ensure the
> check box entitled "Beep if typing lowercase when caps lock is on" is
> checked.  This will cause a beep to sound if you type a shifted
> letter, giving you a big clue that caps lock is on."
> Secondly, for each synthesizer you use, press NVDA+Control+v to open
> the Voice Settings dialog and ensure the edit box entitled "Capital
> pitch change perCentage" is set to at least 50%  This will make it
> obvious that you are typing a capital letter or reviewing one when
> reading letter by letter.  Note: Ensure you  have "Speak typed
> characters" active (NVDA+NumRow 2) to get this feedback when typing.
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
> On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> I suspect you are using the illegal add-on which isn’t supported on
>> the list.  the list can’t, for legal reasons, support oor assist in
>> using such software.  If you want Eloquence that functions properlhy,
>> you can ppurchase either an add-on for it or an MSAPI version of
>> Eloquence.  I and other list members would be happy to provide more
>> information.  You can try demos of both, if you wish.
>>
>> Meantime, trhy switching to another synthesizer to see if capital
>> notification works properly.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Colin Phelan
>> Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:58 PM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
>>
>> You might be onto something there I am using eloquence which did not
>> come as part of the initial NVDA download thoughts welcome and thanks
>> Colin
>>
>>
>>
>> On 26 Dec 2019, at 6:44 pm, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>   You should hear a beep if the caps lock is on and you use the shift
>> key and type a letter.  NVDA by default raises the pitch of capital letters.
>> If
>> you don’t hear that, what synthesizer are you using.  The first thing
>> we need to determine is whether the problem is a limitation of the
>> synthesizer or some problem perhaps with the NVDA installation.
>>
>>   Gene
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Colin Phelan
>>   Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:33 PM
>>   To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>   Subject: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters
>>
>>   I am new to NVDA and recognise this is a basic question, however, I
>> cannot seem to get NVDA to give me feedback with regard to if I am
>> typing capital letters which is a concern as caps lock may be on by
>> accident.
>>
>>   Please confirm settings to be ticked and how to ensure settings are
>> saved in case this is the issue.
>>
>>   Thanks
>>
>>   Colin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>







Re: Announcing Capital Letters

Colin Phelan <colinphelan1@...>
 

Thanks Chris, yes if character echo is on then it works but I can't write documents listening to every character typed.
Is this the only way I get feedback to recognise if caps log maybe on accidently?
Thanks for your assistance.
Kind Regards
Colin

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: 28 December 2019 18:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

Hi Colin
It should work if you have character echo on (NVDA+NumRow 2) when typing, if you just use word echo (NVDA+NumRow 3), you won't hear the pitch change.

Cheers
Chris

On 28/12/2019, Colin Phelan <colinphelan1@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks All, interestingly the beep and pitch change work when I review
a typed word with the left and right arrows but not when I am typing
so unless there is a separate setting for typing feedback maybe it is
to do with my synth.
Kind Regards
Colin
unless

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Chris Mullins
Sent: 26 December 2019 23:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

Hi
Maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years then. I use 50% to
make it obvious because I find 30% can be indistinct in some cases.
At least when Colin experiences the output for whatever synthesizer he
uses, I'm sure he is capable of adjusting the setting to his personal preference.

Cheers
Chris

On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
That is not correct. Fifty percent is extrremely too high pitched
for some synthesizers. It may be alright for others. the default is
30 percent and I wouldn't assume that that is remotely correct for a
lot of synthesizers.
also, these settings are all on by default and they don't change from
one synthesizer to another. It is very unlikely that a new user
would turn them
off. Therefore, the problem is very likely related to the synthesizer
or
some problem with the NVDA installation.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 3:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters


Hi
Use NVDA+Control+k to open the Keyboard settings dialog and ensure
the check box entitled "Beep if typing lowercase when caps lock is
on" is checked. This will cause a beep to sound if you type a
shifted letter, giving you a big clue that caps lock is on."
Secondly, for each synthesizer you use, press NVDA+Control+v to open
the Voice Settings dialog and ensure the edit box entitled "Capital
pitch change perCentage" is set to at least 50% This will make it
obvious that you are typing a capital letter or reviewing one when
reading letter by letter. Note: Ensure you have "Speak typed
characters" active (NVDA+NumRow 2) to get this feedback when typing.

Cheers
Chris

On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I suspect you are using the illegal add-on which isn’t supported on
the list. the list can’t, for legal reasons, support oor assist in
using such software. If you want Eloquence that functions
properlhy, you can ppurchase either an add-on for it or an MSAPI
version of Eloquence. I and other list members would be happy to
provide more information. You can try demos of both, if you wish.

Meantime, trhy switching to another synthesizer to see if capital
notification works properly.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Colin Phelan
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

You might be onto something there I am using eloquence which did not
come as part of the initial NVDA download thoughts welcome and
thanks Colin



On 26 Dec 2019, at 6:44 pm, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:


You should hear a beep if the caps lock is on and you use the
shift key and type a letter. NVDA by default raises the pitch of
capital letters.
If
you don’t hear that, what synthesizer are you using. The first
thing we need to determine is whether the problem is a limitation of
the synthesizer or some problem perhaps with the NVDA installation.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Colin Phelan
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

I am new to NVDA and recognise this is a basic question, however,
I cannot seem to get NVDA to give me feedback with regard to if I am
typing capital letters which is a concern as caps lock may be on by
accident.

Please confirm settings to be ticked and how to ensure settings
are saved in case this is the issue.

Thanks

Colin



















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Re: Announcing Capital Letters

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Colin
It should work if you have character echo on (NVDA+NumRow 2) when
typing, if you just use word echo (NVDA+NumRow 3), you won't hear the
pitch change.

Cheers
Chris

On 28/12/2019, Colin Phelan <colinphelan1@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks All, interestingly the beep and pitch change work when I review a
typed word with the left and right arrows but not when I am typing so unless
there is a separate setting for typing feedback maybe it is to do with my
synth.
Kind Regards
Colin
unless

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Mullins
Sent: 26 December 2019 23:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

Hi
Maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years then. I use 50% to make it
obvious because I find 30% can be indistinct in some cases.
At least when Colin experiences the output for whatever synthesizer he uses,
I'm sure he is capable of adjusting the setting to his personal preference.

Cheers
Chris

On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
That is not correct. Fifty percent is extrremely too high pitched for
some synthesizers. It may be alright for others. the default is 30
percent and I wouldn't assume that that is remotely correct for a lot of
synthesizers.
also, these settings are all on by default and they don't change from
one synthesizer to another. It is very unlikely that a new user would
turn them
off. Therefore, the problem is very likely related to the synthesizer
or
some problem with the NVDA installation.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 3:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters


Hi
Use NVDA+Control+k to open the Keyboard settings dialog and ensure the
check box entitled "Beep if typing lowercase when caps lock is on" is
checked. This will cause a beep to sound if you type a shifted
letter, giving you a big clue that caps lock is on."
Secondly, for each synthesizer you use, press NVDA+Control+v to open
the Voice Settings dialog and ensure the edit box entitled "Capital
pitch change perCentage" is set to at least 50% This will make it
obvious that you are typing a capital letter or reviewing one when
reading letter by letter. Note: Ensure you have "Speak typed
characters" active (NVDA+NumRow 2) to get this feedback when typing.

Cheers
Chris

On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I suspect you are using the illegal add-on which isn’t supported on
the list. the list can’t, for legal reasons, support oor assist in
using such software. If you want Eloquence that functions properlhy,
you can ppurchase either an add-on for it or an MSAPI version of
Eloquence. I and other list members would be happy to provide more
information. You can try demos of both, if you wish.

Meantime, trhy switching to another synthesizer to see if capital
notification works properly.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Colin Phelan
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

You might be onto something there I am using eloquence which did not
come as part of the initial NVDA download thoughts welcome and thanks
Colin



On 26 Dec 2019, at 6:44 pm, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:


You should hear a beep if the caps lock is on and you use the shift
key and type a letter. NVDA by default raises the pitch of capital
letters.
If
you don’t hear that, what synthesizer are you using. The first thing
we need to determine is whether the problem is a limitation of the
synthesizer or some problem perhaps with the NVDA installation.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Colin Phelan
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

I am new to NVDA and recognise this is a basic question, however, I
cannot seem to get NVDA to give me feedback with regard to if I am
typing capital letters which is a concern as caps lock may be on by
accident.

Please confirm settings to be ticked and how to ensure settings are
saved in case this is the issue.

Thanks

Colin

















Re: NVDA Buzzing and Speaking in a Compressed Way During Keyboard Input on a Fast Laptop

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Wow, that sounds really strange. I'm sure somebody already gave you the hint to disable the audio enhancements for your
realtek playback speaker device?

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Samstag, 28. Dezember 2019 15:34
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Buzzing and Speaking in a Compressed Way During Keyboard Input on a Fast Laptop

Hi Jackie and others

I have made a new recording, and saved it as MP3 to prevent any file type problems.
This one is a demonstration of moving down through the NVDA folder in %appdata%, followed by some rapid typing in
Notepad.
http://newanswertech.com/Weird-NVDA2.mp3
Not the best quality, as it's just recorded from an iPhone microphone from a foot away, but I could plug in and record
the "right" way if someone needs a better demo.

There was a RealTek driver updated, although I thought this had already started at that point. Trying to roll it back
would roll back the entire 1909 update, which would be annoying.

If what Jackie suggests is the case, then this is unrelated to NVDA, and shouldn't be on this list. So unless someone
else has some alternative theory, I will hereby discontinue this thread, with apologies for off-topicacality.

Luke


On Fri, 27 Dec 2019, Jackie wrote:

Hey Luke? The file gives an unsupported video format error.

My first thought is that you're running RealTeck & that you need an
updated driver. You've also got some audio software on there called
Nahemic, & it wants to optimize your audio experience. Do not, under
any circumstances, allow that, as I will guarantee-told you it will be
beyond suboptimal. It's kind of a b-word to navigate, too,
unfortunately, but it is actually text-based, so object nav & the tab
key are your friends.


Re: NVDA Buzzing and Speaking in a Compressed Way During Keyboard Input on a Fast Laptop

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi.
I don't know if this will help, but you could try a system restore or go
back to a previous windows installation. Perhaps during one of the updates
some file or other got corrupted?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2019 9:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Buzzing and Speaking in a Compressed Way During
Keyboard Input on a Fast Laptop

Hi Jackie and others

I have made a new recording, and saved it as MP3 to prevent any file type
problems.
This one is a demonstration of moving down through the NVDA folder in
%appdata%, followed by some rapid typing in Notepad.
http://newanswertech.com/Weird-NVDA2.mp3
Not the best quality, as it's just recorded from an iPhone microphone from a
foot away, but I could plug in and record the "right" way if someone needs a
better demo.

There was a RealTek driver updated, although I thought this had already
started at that point. Trying to roll it back would roll back the entire
1909 update, which would be annoying.

If what Jackie suggests is the case, then this is unrelated to NVDA, and
shouldn't be on this list. So unless someone else has some alternative
theory, I will hereby discontinue this thread, with apologies for
off-topicacality.

Luke


On Fri, 27 Dec 2019, Jackie wrote:

Hey Luke? The file gives an unsupported video format error.

My first thought is that you're running RealTeck & that you need an
updated driver. You've also got some audio software on there called
Nahemic, & it wants to optimize your audio experience. Do not, under
any circumstances, allow that, as I will guarantee-told you it will be
beyond suboptimal. It's kind of a b-word to navigate, too,
unfortunately, but it is actually text-based, so object nav & the tab
key are your friends.


Re: Announcing Capital Letters

Colin Phelan <colinphelan1@...>
 

Thanks All, interestingly the beep and pitch change work when I review a typed word with the left and right arrows but not when I am typing so unless there is a separate setting for typing feedback maybe it is to do with my synth.
Kind Regards
Colin
unless

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: 26 December 2019 23:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

Hi
Maybe I've been doing it wrong all these years then. I use 50% to make it obvious because I find 30% can be indistinct in some cases.
At least when Colin experiences the output for whatever synthesizer he uses, I'm sure he is capable of adjusting the setting to his personal preference.

Cheers
Chris

On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
That is not correct. Fifty percent is extrremely too high pitched for
some synthesizers. It may be alright for others. the default is 30
percent and I wouldn't assume that that is remotely correct for a lot of synthesizers.
also, these settings are all on by default and they don't change from
one synthesizer to another. It is very unlikely that a new user would turn them
off. Therefore, the problem is very likely related to the synthesizer or
some problem with the NVDA installation.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Chris Mullins
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 3:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters


Hi
Use NVDA+Control+k to open the Keyboard settings dialog and ensure the
check box entitled "Beep if typing lowercase when caps lock is on" is
checked. This will cause a beep to sound if you type a shifted
letter, giving you a big clue that caps lock is on."
Secondly, for each synthesizer you use, press NVDA+Control+v to open
the Voice Settings dialog and ensure the edit box entitled "Capital
pitch change perCentage" is set to at least 50% This will make it
obvious that you are typing a capital letter or reviewing one when
reading letter by letter. Note: Ensure you have "Speak typed
characters" active (NVDA+NumRow 2) to get this feedback when typing.

Cheers
Chris

On 26/12/2019, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I suspect you are using the illegal add-on which isn’t supported on
the list. the list can’t, for legal reasons, support oor assist in
using such software. If you want Eloquence that functions properlhy,
you can ppurchase either an add-on for it or an MSAPI version of
Eloquence. I and other list members would be happy to provide more
information. You can try demos of both, if you wish.

Meantime, trhy switching to another synthesizer to see if capital
notification works properly.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Colin Phelan
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

You might be onto something there I am using eloquence which did not
come as part of the initial NVDA download thoughts welcome and thanks
Colin



On 26 Dec 2019, at 6:44 pm, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:


You should hear a beep if the caps lock is on and you use the shift
key and type a letter. NVDA by default raises the pitch of capital letters.
If
you don’t hear that, what synthesizer are you using. The first thing
we need to determine is whether the problem is a limitation of the
synthesizer or some problem perhaps with the NVDA installation.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Colin Phelan
Sent: Thursday, December 26, 2019 12:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Announcing Capital Letters

I am new to NVDA and recognise this is a basic question, however, I
cannot seem to get NVDA to give me feedback with regard to if I am
typing capital letters which is a concern as caps lock may be on by
accident.

Please confirm settings to be ticked and how to ensure settings are
saved in case this is the issue.

Thanks

Colin











Re: NVDA Buzzing and Speaking in a Compressed Way During Keyboard Input on a Fast Laptop

Luke Davis
 

Hi Jackie and others

I have made a new recording, and saved it as MP3 to prevent any file type problems.
This one is a demonstration of moving down through the NVDA folder in %appdata%, followed by some rapid typing in Notepad.
http://newanswertech.com/Weird-NVDA2.mp3
Not the best quality, as it's just recorded from an iPhone microphone from a foot away, but I could plug in and record the "right" way if someone needs a better demo.

There was a RealTek driver updated, although I thought this had already started at that point. Trying to roll it back would roll back the entire 1909 update, which would be annoying.

If what Jackie suggests is the case, then this is unrelated to NVDA, and shouldn't be on this list. So unless someone else has some alternative theory, I will hereby discontinue this thread, with apologies for off-topicacality.

Luke

On Fri, 27 Dec 2019, Jackie wrote:

Hey Luke? The file gives an unsupported video format error.

My first thought is that you're running RealTeck & that you need an
updated driver. You've also got some audio software on there called
Nahemic, & it wants to optimize your audio experience. Do not, under
any circumstances, allow that, as I will guarantee-told you it will be
beyond suboptimal. It's kind of a b-word to navigate, too,
unfortunately, but it is actually text-based, so object nav & the tab
key are your friends.


Re: confused

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I have run it three times.

It gave me the warning

I said yes

And it immediately gave me an ok button. But my problem never changed.

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

From: Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 3:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] confused

 

You were asked to run the com registration tool and You did not do this.

 

On 27/12/2019 07:20, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

> The problem still exists. I noticed that when I press windows +t to

> bring up the task bar it says unknown there too.

>

> I have done the following:

>

> Run restore

>

> Uninstalled NVDA

>

> Deleted the NVDA folder in app-data\roaming

>

> Downgraded to 2019.2

>

> There is no change.

>

> Is there something else I should have deleted after uninstalling to make

> sure NVDA was completely removed?

>

> ******

>

> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!

>

> *From: *Joseph Lee <mailto:joseph.lee22590@...>

> *Sent: *Thursday, December 26, 2019 8:48 PM

> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject: *Re: [nvda] more confusion

>

> Hi,

>

> Try the following in the order shown:

>

>  1. Restart NVDA while focused on these apps.

>  2. Restart the computer.

>  3. Run “COM registration fixing tool” – NVDA menu/Tools/Run COM

>     registration fixing tool and follow the prompts.

>

> Cheers,

>

> Joseph

>

> *From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Robert

> Doc Wright godfearer

> *Sent:* Thursday, December 26, 2019 7:14 PM

> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io

> *Subject:* [nvda] more confusion

>

> Now when I go to chrome it only says unknown. In IE it only reads the

> title bar. In Edge I get a little more but it drags a lot before saying

> anything.

>

> ******

>

> character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!

>

>

 

 

 


Re: file explorer

Jimmy Vonderlinden
 

I had this same problem , but within the network connections window. I got around it by bringing focus to the desktop, than alt tabbing back to the window, and than I was able to move through the list of wi-fi networks. Hope this helps someone


Re: NVDA Buzzing and Speaking in a Compressed Way During Keyboard Input on a Fast Laptop

Jackie
 

Hey Luke? The file gives an unsupported video format error.

My first thought is that you're running RealTeck & that you need an
updated driver. You've also got some audio software on there called
Nahemic, & it wants to optimize your audio experience. Do not, under
any circumstances, allow that, as I will guarantee-told you it will be
beyond suboptimal. It's kind of a b-word to navigate, too,
unfortunately, but it is actually text-based, so object nav & the tab
key are your friends.

I realize the whole situation is unacceptable, unfortunately, I'm kind
of committed till after New Year's day, so I'm not in a position to
give much more help than this at present. Hopefully, though, it's
enough to give you a nudge in the proper direction. If not, we can
hopefully get together on the 2nd & troubleshoot this.

On 12/27/19, Luke Davis <luke@newanswertech.com> wrote:
Hello

Today I acquired an MSI laptop. Intel I7 Hexacore 2.6 GHZ (4.5 burst), 32 GB

RAM, 64 bit.

I ran 2019.2.1 as a portable without problem, and installed 2019.3 beta.
Then I
updated from Windows 110 Home 1709 to 1809, and noticed the following weird

behavior. I subsequently updated to 1909, and nothing has changed.
I have never seen this before.

Using either ESpeak or OneCore, whenever I type quickly or move the mouse, I

find that speech either hangs up in bad robotic sounding buzzes, or gets
really
"small", like a munchkin version of the synth in use.

It is a bit hard to describe. So I made a small recording:
http://newanswertech.com/Weird-NVDA1.m4a

It happens always when I am typing quickly, or just moving quickly through a

file list with the arrow keys. As you can hear from the file, it even
happens
periodically when I am typing slowly.

This is really unacceptable.

I purged 2019.3 and installed 2019.2.1, but the same behavior continues.

If this were the old days, I would think there was some kind of IRQ conflict

between the keyboard and the audio subsystem.
It's been so long since I have had to solve that kind of problem though,
that
I'm not immediately sure how to diagnose it.

Any thoughts would be welcome.

Luke



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NVDA Buzzing and Speaking in a Compressed Way During Keyboard Input on a Fast Laptop

Luke Davis
 

Hello

Today I acquired an MSI laptop. Intel I7 Hexacore 2.6 GHZ (4.5 burst), 32 GB RAM, 64 bit.

I ran 2019.2.1 as a portable without problem, and installed 2019.3 beta. Then I updated from Windows 110 Home 1709 to 1809, and noticed the following weird behavior. I subsequently updated to 1909, and nothing has changed.
I have never seen this before.

Using either ESpeak or OneCore, whenever I type quickly or move the mouse, I find that speech either hangs up in bad robotic sounding buzzes, or gets really "small", like a munchkin version of the synth in use.

It is a bit hard to describe. So I made a small recording:
http://newanswertech.com/Weird-NVDA1.m4a

It happens always when I am typing quickly, or just moving quickly through a file list with the arrow keys. As you can hear from the file, it even happens periodically when I am typing slowly.

This is really unacceptable.

I purged 2019.3 and installed 2019.2.1, but the same behavior continues.

If this were the old days, I would think there was some kind of IRQ conflict between the keyboard and the audio subsystem.
It's been so long since I have had to solve that kind of problem though, that I'm not immediately sure how to diagnose it.

Any thoughts would be welcome.

Luke


Re: confused

Kevin Cussick
 

You were asked to run the com registration tool and You did not do this.

On 27/12/2019 07:20, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:
The problem still exists. I noticed that when I press windows +t to bring up the task bar it says unknown there too.
I have done the following:
Run restore
Uninstalled NVDA
Deleted the NVDA folder in app-data\roaming
Downgraded to 2019.2
There is no change.
Is there something else I should have deleted after uninstalling to make sure NVDA was completely removed?
******
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!
*From: *Joseph Lee <mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Thursday, December 26, 2019 8:48 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] more confusion
Hi,
Try the following in the order shown:
1. Restart NVDA while focused on these apps.
2. Restart the computer.
3. Run “COM registration fixing tool” – NVDA menu/Tools/Run COM
registration fixing tool and follow the prompts.
Cheers,
Joseph
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Robert Doc Wright godfearer
*Sent:* Thursday, December 26, 2019 7:14 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* [nvda] more confusion
Now when I go to chrome it only says unknown. In IE it only reads the title bar. In Edge I get a little more but it drags a lot before saying anything.
******
character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!


Re: confused

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


I did have another problem that was simular but involved fire fox and thunder bird etc and was able to fix it.


Not sure but if you look at the following link at https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/nvda_web_browser_problem/4415326?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,140,4415326



I give steps on how to fix it but because no one else really had the same problem I did not put it up on my website under trouble shooting.


Look for hurrikenny and opo or gene nz it is near the top with steps.


You may have to refresh me on what is happening.


Gene nz


On 28/12/2019 7:23 am, Brian Vogel wrote:
As to Tyler's earlier additional suggestion, the NVDA issue on GitHub that he originated on MathPlayer dates from approximately one year ago is:  COM Registration Fixing tool doesn't work

I remain unclear as to exactly what did end up working after having read through the topic.
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