Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted
That may not be the same problem, since evidently,
others can unload NVDA and load it again. I suspect that your keyboard may
stop responding.
My one experience with one computer where this
happens can't be generalized, but I have one desktop where the keyboard stops
communicating with the machine sometimes. I can unplug and reconnect the
keyboard and that usually corrects the problem. Your machine is evidently
a laptop so you can't do that, of course.
I don't use Windows 10 so I won't describe the
procedure, but you might find it easier and faster to set the on/off button to
reboot when you press it for a moment and release it, if there is such an
option.
Gene
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 6:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be
restarted
Hi ☺ This occasionally happens to me as well. It's as if the
keyboard stops responding. When this occurs I use the touchscreen to reboot the
machine and the problem goes away. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io < nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Vincent Le Goff Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 5:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.ioSubject: [nvda]
NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted Hi
everyone, This has been happening for some time, on so many computers
and with so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only one
to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange and might be
worth looking into. Regardless of the activity sometimes NVDA "loses
control". The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the shortcuts associated
with it) stop working. Using the numeric keypad works as would without
NVDA. Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key for me, triggers the CapLock
function. NVDA still works somewhat and tries to report information, but
one can't open the NVDA menu, read the time, look at the window title or indeed
do lots of things controlled directly by NVDA. When does it
happen? I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's tricky. It never
seems to happen at a given time or in any given application. All I know is
that it seems to "lose control" when a lot of memory is required by other
applications, which creates some kind of lag. So this happens in a browser
when the site has a lot of scripts for instance. This can happen in Word
if the document is long. This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened
and a "demanding" task is running. This can happen when lots of update
information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens more
frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot of memory.
It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is there a
workaround? Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't really annoying,
but it's definitely strange. Most important question though: has
anyone noticed this problem? Or am I the only lucky one? Does
happen! Thanks, Vincent
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curious about NVDA and it's behavior in different browsers.
Hi list there is something very frustrating that happens from time to time on internet explorer. When I’m on Facebook browsing my notifications from time to time there is one regular poster to one of the groups I’m in who posts these quizzes to the group. They are indicated by a musical notes Icon. For some reason that icon link is broken into pieces. Trying to read the notification when this happens is impossible. That icon was there a total of 26 time. Have done the same thing on chrome and can verify there is only one link there. What is happening and is there anything that can be done to correct this? Am not sure if this is an NVDA issue or a browser issue. Any thoughts. Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted
I believe I recall this being discussed awhile ago
and I think it has something to do with ways that Windows 10 communicates with
NVDA. Of course, others will be able to discuss this with much more
knowledge.
Gene
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Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 6:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be
restarted
Hi Gene, As for me, yes, I'm using Windows 10 build 1909
and the latest stable release of NVDA. Lisa P. Geibel For Mine and
Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997
for that show. For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the
same number above, but press 9998 for that show. For either show, once you're
in, press 1, then 0 If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the
above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2. We'd love to
hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for
listening. email: lisapgeibel429@...Twitter: LisaLisa429 Facebook: m.facebook.com/ldporter1 May
YHWH bless you all On 12/10/2019 6:38 AM, Gene wrote: > Are those
having the problem using Windows 10? I've never had it > happen in
Windows 7 or XP. > Gene > ----- Original Message ----- >
*From:* Lisa P Geibel < mailto:lisapgeibel429@...> >
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 10, 2019 5:11 AM > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io < mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> >
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be >
restarted > > Hi Vincent and others, > > SMILE I hate to
break your heart, but you're not the only person this > happens to. I was
very glad to see your message and know that I'm not > the only one it
happens to. It is a fairly easy fix as you said, but can > get to be a
bother and you're right, it does seem to happen when I'm > trying to do
multiple things, but it can also happen when I'm just in > the middle of
an email. My husband thought it could be TWBlue instead of > NVDA as that
program does take a lot of resources, but I unloaded TWBlue > and was
still having problems, so I'm thinking as I first thought that > it's
something with NVDA and hopefully it will get fixed in the next >
update. > > Lisa P. Geibel > For Mine and Marcus's Christian
and Messianic audio show, call > 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that
show. > For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same
number > above, but press 9998 for that show. > For either show,
once you're in, press 1, then 0 > If you want to hear previous shows,
after dialing the above phone > number and choosing which show you want,
press 2. > We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you
for > listening. > email: > lisapgeibel429@... < mailto:lisapgeibel429@...> >
Twitter: > LisaLisa429 > Facebook: >
m.facebook.com/ldporter1 > May YHWH bless you all > > On
12/10/2019 5:55 AM, Vincent Le Goff wrote: > > Hi everyone, >
> > > > > This has been happening for some time, on so many
computers and with > > so many different NVDA versions I can't believe
I would be the only > > one to see this, and it's not a huge
inconvenience, but it's strange > > and might be worth looking
into. Regardless of the activity sometimes > > NVDA "loses
control". The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the > > shortcuts
associated with it) stop working. Using the numeric keypad > >
works as would without NVDA. Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA
key > > for me, triggers the CapLock function. NVDA still works
somewhat and > > tries to report information, but one can't open the
NVDA menu, read > > the time, look at the window title or indeed do
lots of things > > controlled directly by NVDA. > > >
> > > When does it happen? I've tried to reproduce the issue
and it's > > tricky. It never seems to happen at a given time or
in any given > > application. All I know is that it seems to
"lose control" when a lot > > of memory is required by other
applications, which creates some kind > > of lag. So this happens
in a browser when the site has a lot of > > scripts for instance.
This can happen in Word if the document is > > long. This can
happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a > > "demanding" task is
running. This can happen when lots of update > > information is
sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens > > more
frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot > > of
memory. It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is >
> there a workaround? Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes
isn't > > really annoying, but it's definitely strange. >
> > > > > Most important question though: has anyone
noticed this problem? Or am > > I the only lucky one? Does
happen! > > > > > > Thanks, > > >
> > > Vincent > > > > > > >
> > > >
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Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted
Ditto. Using Win10 1909 and latest NVDA version. Blessings Pascal
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Nevzat Adil Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 7:33 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted NVDA losing focus has been happening to me, too, and I use Windows 10 with Firefox for browser. It's not a big deal and regain focus by alt+tab. But it's a nusence. Hopefully it will be fixed. On 12/10/19, Lisa P Geibel <lisapgeibel429@gmail.com> wrote: Hello,
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention that when it happens to me I'm either using Thunderbird, Seamonkey or Firefox. It happens more with Seamonkey than others though and there are no add ons running or installed on this computer, which is a Lenovo.
Lisa P. Geibel For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show. For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show. For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0 If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2. We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening. email: lisapgeibel429@gmail.com Twitter: LisaLisa429 Facebook: m.facebook.com/ldporter1 May YHWH bless you all
On 12/10/2019 7:06 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:
Hello,
I encounter this problem using Word, the slack application and sometimes thunderbird.
I am testing the NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 version and could not encounter this problme so often for now.
But I need to test a bit longer in order to find out if it occurs.
Other thing: in the NVDA beta I have no add-on enabled.
I am also using Windows 10.
Best
Sylvie
Le 10/12/2019 à 12:38, Gene a écrit :
Are those having the problem using Windows 10? I've never had it happen in Windows 7 or XP. Gene ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Lisa P Geibel <mailto:lisapgeibel429@gmail.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 10, 2019 5:11 AM *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted
Hi Vincent and others,
SMILE I hate to break your heart, but you're not the only person this happens to. I was very glad to see your message and know that I'm not the only one it happens to. It is a fairly easy fix as you said, but can get to be a bother and you're right, it does seem to happen when I'm trying to do multiple things, but it can also happen when I'm just in the middle of an email. My husband thought it could be TWBlue instead of NVDA as that program does take a lot of resources, but I unloaded TWBlue and was still having problems, so I'm thinking as I first thought that it's something with NVDA and hopefully it will get fixed in the next update.
Lisa P. Geibel For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show. For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show. For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0 If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2. We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening. email: lisapgeibel429@gmail.com <mailto:lisapgeibel429@gmail.com> Twitter: LisaLisa429 Facebook: m.facebook.com/ldporter1 May YHWH bless you all
On 12/10/2019 5:55 AM, Vincent Le Goff wrote:
Hi everyone,
This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange and might be worth looking into. Regardless of the activity sometimes NVDA "loses control". The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the shortcuts associated with it) stop working. Using the numeric keypad works as would without NVDA. Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key for me, triggers the CapLock function. NVDA still works somewhat and tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of things controlled directly by NVDA.
When does it happen? I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's tricky. It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given application. All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a lot of memory is required by other applications, which creates some kind of lag. So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of scripts for instance. This can happen in Word if the document is long. This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a "demanding" task is running. This can happen when lots of update information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot of memory. It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is there a workaround? Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't really annoying, but it's definitely strange.
Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or am I the only lucky one? Does happen!
Thanks,
Vincent
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Windows10 Mail: Selected or Unselected Status before everything else?
I don’t know if it’s NVDA, or its Windows10 Essentials doing, but I’d like it for within the Windows10 Mail app, while in Selection Mode, for the Selected or Unselected status to be read before everything else, especially for making quicker the checking of Email. Hope this can be done, or set as a toggle since they might be those who like it as it is? Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10
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Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted
molly the blind tech lover
Hi ☺ This occasionally happens to me as well. It's as if the keyboard stops responding. When this occurs I use the touchscreen to reboot the machine and the problem goes away.
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Vincent Le Goff Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 5:55 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted
Hi everyone,
This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange and might be worth looking into. Regardless of the activity sometimes NVDA "loses control". The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the shortcuts associated with it) stop working. Using the numeric keypad works as would without NVDA. Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key for me, triggers the CapLock function. NVDA still works somewhat and tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of things controlled directly by NVDA.
When does it happen? I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's tricky. It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given application. All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a lot of memory is required by other applications, which creates some kind of lag. So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of scripts for instance. This can happen in Word if the document is long. This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a "demanding" task is running. This can happen when lots of update information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot of memory. It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is there a workaround? Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't really annoying, but it's definitely strange.
Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or am I the only lucky one? Does happen!
Thanks,
Vincent
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Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted
Christo Vorster <christo.vorster.klavierstem@...>
Hi I often experience this using Outlook 2016. ALT Tab helps but it is truly a nuisance. Regards Christo Vorster (South Africa)
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sylvie Duchateau Sent: Tuesday, 10 December 2019 14:06 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted Hello, I encounter this problem using Word, the slack application and sometimes thunderbird. I am testing the NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 version and could not encounter this problme so often for now. But I need to test a bit longer in order to find out if it occurs. Other thing: in the NVDA beta I have no add-on enabled. I am also using Windows 10. Best Sylvie Le 10/12/2019 à 12:38, Gene a écrit : Are those having the problem using Windows 10? I've never had it happen in Windows 7 or XP. ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 5:11 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted Hi Vincent and others,
SMILE I hate to break your heart, but you're not the only person this happens to. I was very glad to see your message and know that I'm not the only one it happens to. It is a fairly easy fix as you said, but can get to be a bother and you're right, it does seem to happen when I'm trying to do multiple things, but it can also happen when I'm just in the middle of an email. My husband thought it could be TWBlue instead of NVDA as that program does take a lot of resources, but I unloaded TWBlue and was still having problems, so I'm thinking as I first thought that it's something with NVDA and hopefully it will get fixed in the next update.
Lisa P. Geibel For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show. For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show. For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0 If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2. We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening. email: lisapgeibel429@... Twitter: LisaLisa429 Facebook: m.facebook.com/ldporter1 May YHWH bless you all
On 12/10/2019 5:55 AM, Vincent Le Goff wrote: > Hi everyone, > > > This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with > so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only > one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange > and might be worth looking into. Regardless of the activity sometimes > NVDA "loses control". The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the > shortcuts associated with it) stop working. Using the numeric keypad > works as would without NVDA. Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key > for me, triggers the CapLock function. NVDA still works somewhat and > tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read > the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of things > controlled directly by NVDA. > > > When does it happen? I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's > tricky. It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given > application. All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a lot > of memory is required by other applications, which creates some kind > of lag. So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of > scripts for instance. This can happen in Word if the document is > long. This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a > "demanding" task is running. This can happen when lots of update > information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens > more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot > of memory. It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is > there a workaround? Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't > really annoying, but it's definitely strange. > > > Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or am > I the only lucky one? Does happen! > > > Thanks, > > > Vincent > > > >
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Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted
I wish we could just alt tab to fix it, but it's like when it happens, we can't do anything but unload it and reload it.
Lisa P. Geibel For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show. For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show. For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0 If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2. We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening. email: lisapgeibel429@gmail.com Twitter: LisaLisa429 Facebook: m.facebook.com/ldporter1 May YHWH bless you all
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On 12/10/2019 7:32 AM, Nevzat Adil wrote: NVDA losing focus has been happening to me, too, and I use Windows 10 with Firefox for browser. It's not a big deal and regain focus by alt+tab. But it's a nusence. Hopefully it will be fixed.
On 12/10/19, Lisa P Geibel <lisapgeibel429@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention that when it happens to me I'm either using Thunderbird, Seamonkey or Firefox. It happens more with Seamonkey than others though and there are no add ons running or installed on this computer, which is a Lenovo.
Lisa P. Geibel For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show. For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show. For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0 If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2. We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening. email: lisapgeibel429@gmail.com Twitter: LisaLisa429 Facebook: m.facebook.com/ldporter1 May YHWH bless you all
On 12/10/2019 7:06 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:
Hello,
I encounter this problem using Word, the slack application and sometimes thunderbird.
I am testing the NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 version and could not encounter this problme so often for now.
But I need to test a bit longer in order to find out if it occurs.
Other thing: in the NVDA beta I have no add-on enabled.
I am also using Windows 10.
Best
Sylvie
Le 10/12/2019 à 12:38, Gene a écrit :
Are those having the problem using Windows 10? I've never had it happen in Windows 7 or XP. Gene ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Lisa P Geibel <mailto:lisapgeibel429@gmail.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 10, 2019 5:11 AM *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted
Hi Vincent and others,
SMILE I hate to break your heart, but you're not the only person this happens to. I was very glad to see your message and know that I'm not the only one it happens to. It is a fairly easy fix as you said, but can get to be a bother and you're right, it does seem to happen when I'm trying to do multiple things, but it can also happen when I'm just in the middle of an email. My husband thought it could be TWBlue instead of NVDA as that program does take a lot of resources, but I unloaded TWBlue and was still having problems, so I'm thinking as I first thought that it's something with NVDA and hopefully it will get fixed in the next update.
Lisa P. Geibel For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show. For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show. For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0 If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2. We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening. email: lisapgeibel429@gmail.com <mailto:lisapgeibel429@gmail.com> Twitter: LisaLisa429 Facebook: m.facebook.com/ldporter1 May YHWH bless you all
On 12/10/2019 5:55 AM, Vincent Le Goff wrote:
Hi everyone,
This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange and might be worth looking into. Regardless of the activity sometimes NVDA "loses control". The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the shortcuts associated with it) stop working. Using the numeric keypad works as would without NVDA. Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key for me, triggers the CapLock function. NVDA still works somewhat and tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of things controlled directly by NVDA.
When does it happen? I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's tricky. It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given application. All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a lot of memory is required by other applications, which creates some kind of lag. So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of scripts for instance. This can happen in Word if the document is long. This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a "demanding" task is running. This can happen when lots of update information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot of memory. It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is there a workaround? Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't really annoying, but it's definitely strange.
Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or am I the only lucky one? Does happen!
Thanks,
Vincent
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Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted
NVDA losing focus has been happening to me, too, and I use Windows 10 with Firefox for browser. It's not a big deal and regain focus by alt+tab. But it's a nusence. Hopefully it will be fixed.
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On 12/10/19, Lisa P Geibel <lisapgeibel429@gmail.com> wrote: Hello,
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention that when it happens to me I'm either using Thunderbird, Seamonkey or Firefox. It happens more with Seamonkey than others though and there are no add ons running or installed on this computer, which is a Lenovo.
Lisa P. Geibel For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show. For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show. For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0 If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2. We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening. email: lisapgeibel429@gmail.com Twitter: LisaLisa429 Facebook: m.facebook.com/ldporter1 May YHWH bless you all
On 12/10/2019 7:06 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote:
Hello,
I encounter this problem using Word, the slack application and sometimes thunderbird.
I am testing the NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 version and could not encounter this problme so often for now.
But I need to test a bit longer in order to find out if it occurs.
Other thing: in the NVDA beta I have no add-on enabled.
I am also using Windows 10.
Best
Sylvie
Le 10/12/2019 à 12:38, Gene a écrit :
Are those having the problem using Windows 10? I've never had it happen in Windows 7 or XP. Gene ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Lisa P Geibel <mailto:lisapgeibel429@gmail.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 10, 2019 5:11 AM *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted
Hi Vincent and others,
SMILE I hate to break your heart, but you're not the only person this happens to. I was very glad to see your message and know that I'm not the only one it happens to. It is a fairly easy fix as you said, but can get to be a bother and you're right, it does seem to happen when I'm trying to do multiple things, but it can also happen when I'm just in the middle of an email. My husband thought it could be TWBlue instead of NVDA as that program does take a lot of resources, but I unloaded TWBlue and was still having problems, so I'm thinking as I first thought that it's something with NVDA and hopefully it will get fixed in the next update.
Lisa P. Geibel For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show. For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show. For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0 If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2. We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening. email: lisapgeibel429@gmail.com <mailto:lisapgeibel429@gmail.com> Twitter: LisaLisa429 Facebook: m.facebook.com/ldporter1 May YHWH bless you all
On 12/10/2019 5:55 AM, Vincent Le Goff wrote:
Hi everyone,
This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange and might be worth looking into. Regardless of the activity sometimes NVDA "loses control". The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the shortcuts associated with it) stop working. Using the numeric keypad works as would without NVDA. Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key for me, triggers the CapLock function. NVDA still works somewhat and tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of things controlled directly by NVDA.
When does it happen? I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's tricky. It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given application. All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a lot of memory is required by other applications, which creates some kind of lag. So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of scripts for instance. This can happen in Word if the document is long. This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a "demanding" task is running. This can happen when lots of update information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot of memory. It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is there a workaround? Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't really annoying, but it's definitely strange.
Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or am I the only lucky one? Does happen!
Thanks,
Vincent
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Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted
Hello,
I'm sorry, I forgot to mention that when it happens to me I'm either using Thunderbird, Seamonkey or Firefox. It happens more with Seamonkey than others though and there are no add ons running or installed on this computer, which is a Lenovo.
Lisa P. Geibel For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show. For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show. For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0 If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2. We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening. email: lisapgeibel429@gmail.com Twitter: LisaLisa429 Facebook: m.facebook.com/ldporter1 May YHWH bless you all
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On 12/10/2019 7:06 AM, Sylvie Duchateau wrote: Hello,
I encounter this problem using Word, the slack application and sometimes thunderbird.
I am testing the NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 version and could not encounter this problme so often for now.
But I need to test a bit longer in order to find out if it occurs.
Other thing: in the NVDA beta I have no add-on enabled.
I am also using Windows 10.
Best
Sylvie
Le 10/12/2019 à 12:38, Gene a écrit :
Are those having the problem using Windows 10? I've never had it happen in Windows 7 or XP. Gene ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Lisa P Geibel <mailto:lisapgeibel429@gmail.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 10, 2019 5:11 AM *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted
Hi Vincent and others,
SMILE I hate to break your heart, but you're not the only person this happens to. I was very glad to see your message and know that I'm not the only one it happens to. It is a fairly easy fix as you said, but can get to be a bother and you're right, it does seem to happen when I'm trying to do multiple things, but it can also happen when I'm just in the middle of an email. My husband thought it could be TWBlue instead of NVDA as that program does take a lot of resources, but I unloaded TWBlue and was still having problems, so I'm thinking as I first thought that it's something with NVDA and hopefully it will get fixed in the next update.
Lisa P. Geibel For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show. For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show. For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0 If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2. We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening. email: lisapgeibel429@gmail.com <mailto:lisapgeibel429@gmail.com> Twitter: LisaLisa429 Facebook: m.facebook.com/ldporter1 May YHWH bless you all
On 12/10/2019 5:55 AM, Vincent Le Goff wrote:
Hi everyone,
This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange and might be worth looking into. Regardless of the activity sometimes NVDA "loses control". The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the shortcuts associated with it) stop working. Using the numeric keypad works as would without NVDA. Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key for me, triggers the CapLock function. NVDA still works somewhat and tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of things controlled directly by NVDA.
When does it happen? I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's tricky. It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given application. All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a lot of memory is required by other applications, which creates some kind of lag. So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of scripts for instance. This can happen in Word if the document is long. This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a "demanding" task is running. This can happen when lots of update information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot of memory. It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is there a workaround? Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't really annoying, but it's definitely strange.
Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or am I the only lucky one? Does happen!
Thanks,
Vincent
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Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted
Hi,
It's pretty rare in my case. Next time it happens to me, I'll grab the old NVDA log after it restarts and possibly attach it to the issue tracker.
Nicolai
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Hi Gene,
As for me, yes, I'm using Windows 10 build 1909 and the latest stable
release of NVDA.
Lisa P. Geibel
For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show.
For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show.
For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0
If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2.
We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening.
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lisapgeibel429@...
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On 12/10/2019 6:38 AM, Gene wrote:
> Are those having the problem using Windows 10? I've never had it
> happen in Windows 7 or XP.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Lisa P Geibel <mailto:lisapgeibel429@...>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 10, 2019 5:11 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be
> restarted
>
> Hi Vincent and others,
>
> SMILE I hate to break your heart, but you're not the only person this
> happens to. I was very glad to see your message and know that I'm not
> the only one it happens to. It is a fairly easy fix as you said, but can
> get to be a bother and you're right, it does seem to happen when I'm
> trying to do multiple things, but it can also happen when I'm just in
> the middle of an email. My husband thought it could be TWBlue instead of
> NVDA as that program does take a lot of resources, but I unloaded TWBlue
> and was still having problems, so I'm thinking as I first thought that
> it's something with NVDA and hopefully it will get fixed in the next
> update.
>
> Lisa P. Geibel
> For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call
> 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show.
> For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number
> above, but press 9998 for that show.
> For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0
> If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone
> number and choosing which show you want, press 2.
> We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for
> listening.
> email:
> lisapgeibel429@... <mailto:lisapgeibel429@...>
> Twitter:
> LisaLisa429
> Facebook:
> m.facebook.com/ldporter1
> May YHWH bless you all
>
> On 12/10/2019 5:55 AM, Vincent Le Goff wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> >
> > This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with
> > so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only
> > one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange
> > and might be worth looking into. Regardless of the activity sometimes
> > NVDA "loses control". The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the
> > shortcuts associated with it) stop working. Using the numeric keypad
> > works as would without NVDA. Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key
> > for me, triggers the CapLock function. NVDA still works somewhat and
> > tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read
> > the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of things
> > controlled directly by NVDA.
> >
> >
> > When does it happen? I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's
> > tricky. It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given
> > application. All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a lot
> > of memory is required by other applications, which creates some kind
> > of lag. So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of
> > scripts for instance. This can happen in Word if the document is
> > long. This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a
> > "demanding" task is running. This can happen when lots of update
> > information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens
> > more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot
> > of memory. It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is
> > there a workaround? Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't
> > really annoying, but it's definitely strange.
> >
> >
> > Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or am
> > I the only lucky one? Does happen!
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Vincent
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted
Hello,
I encounter this problem using Word, the slack application and
sometimes thunderbird.
I am testing the NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 version and could not
encounter this problme so often for now.
But I need to test a bit longer in order to find out if it
occurs.
Other thing: in the NVDA beta I have no add-on enabled.
I am also using Windows 10.
Best
Sylvie
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Le 10/12/2019 à 12:38, Gene a écrit :
Are those having the problem using Windows 10? I've never
had it happen in Windows 7 or XP.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control
and needs to be restarted
Hi Vincent and others,
SMILE I hate to break your heart, but you're not the only person
this
happens to. I was very glad to see your message and know that I'm
not
the only one it happens to. It is a fairly easy fix as you said,
but can
get to be a bother and you're right, it does seem to happen when
I'm
trying to do multiple things, but it can also happen when I'm just
in
the middle of an email. My husband thought it could be TWBlue
instead of
NVDA as that program does take a lot of resources, but I unloaded
TWBlue
and was still having problems, so I'm thinking as I first thought
that
it's something with NVDA and hopefully it will get fixed in the
next
update.
Lisa P. Geibel
For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call
631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show.
For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same
number above, but press 9998 for that show.
For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0
If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone
number and choosing which show you want, press 2.
We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for
listening.
email:
lisapgeibel429@...
Twitter:
LisaLisa429
Facebook:
m.facebook.com/ldporter1
May YHWH bless you all
On 12/10/2019 5:55 AM, Vincent Le Goff wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
>
> This has been happening for some time, on so many computers
and with
> so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be
the only
> one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's
strange
> and might be worth looking into. Regardless of the activity
sometimes
> NVDA "loses control". The key hooks (the NVDA key and all
the
> shortcuts associated with it) stop working. Using the
numeric keypad
> works as would without NVDA. Pressing Caplocks, which is a
NVDA key
> for me, triggers the CapLock function. NVDA still works
somewhat and
> tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA
menu, read
> the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of
things
> controlled directly by NVDA.
>
>
> When does it happen? I've tried to reproduce the issue and
it's
> tricky. It never seems to happen at a given time or in any
given
> application. All I know is that it seems to "lose control"
when a lot
> of memory is required by other applications, which creates
some kind
> of lag. So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot
of
> scripts for instance. This can happen in Word if the
document is
> long. This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a
> "demanding" task is running. This can happen when lots of
update
> information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It
happens
> more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't
have a lot
> of memory. It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault,
but is
> there a workaround? Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes
isn't
> really annoying, but it's definitely strange.
>
>
> Most important question though: has anyone noticed this
problem? Or am
> I the only lucky one? Does happen!
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Vincent
>
>
>
>
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Hi Gene,
As for me, yes, I'm using Windows 10 build 1909 and the latest stable release of NVDA.
Lisa P. Geibel For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show. For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show. For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0 If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2. We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening. email: lisapgeibel429@gmail.com Twitter: LisaLisa429 Facebook: m.facebook.com/ldporter1 May YHWH bless you all
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On 12/10/2019 6:38 AM, Gene wrote: Are those having the problem using Windows 10? I've never had it happen in Windows 7 or XP. Gene ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Lisa P Geibel <mailto:lisapgeibel429@gmail.com> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 10, 2019 5:11 AM *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted
Hi Vincent and others,
SMILE I hate to break your heart, but you're not the only person this happens to. I was very glad to see your message and know that I'm not the only one it happens to. It is a fairly easy fix as you said, but can get to be a bother and you're right, it does seem to happen when I'm trying to do multiple things, but it can also happen when I'm just in the middle of an email. My husband thought it could be TWBlue instead of NVDA as that program does take a lot of resources, but I unloaded TWBlue and was still having problems, so I'm thinking as I first thought that it's something with NVDA and hopefully it will get fixed in the next update.
Lisa P. Geibel For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show. For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show. For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0 If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2. We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening. email: lisapgeibel429@gmail.com <mailto:lisapgeibel429@gmail.com> Twitter: LisaLisa429 Facebook: m.facebook.com/ldporter1 May YHWH bless you all
On 12/10/2019 5:55 AM, Vincent Le Goff wrote:
Hi everyone,
This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange and might be worth looking into. Regardless of the activity sometimes NVDA "loses control". The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the shortcuts associated with it) stop working. Using the numeric keypad works as would without NVDA. Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key for me, triggers the CapLock function. NVDA still works somewhat and tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of things controlled directly by NVDA.
When does it happen? I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's tricky. It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given application. All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a lot of memory is required by other applications, which creates some kind of lag. So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of scripts for instance. This can happen in Word if the document is long. This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a "demanding" task is running. This can happen when lots of update information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot of memory. It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is there a workaround? Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't really annoying, but it's definitely strange.
Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or am I the only lucky one? Does happen!
Thanks,
Vincent
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Re: NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted
Are those having the problem using Windows
10? I've never had it happen in Windows 7 or XP.
Gene
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2019 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be
restarted
Hi Vincent and others, SMILE I hate to break your heart,
but you're not the only person this happens to. I was very glad to see your
message and know that I'm not the only one it happens to. It is a fairly
easy fix as you said, but can get to be a bother and you're right, it does
seem to happen when I'm trying to do multiple things, but it can also happen
when I'm just in the middle of an email. My husband thought it could be
TWBlue instead of NVDA as that program does take a lot of resources, but I
unloaded TWBlue and was still having problems, so I'm thinking as I first
thought that it's something with NVDA and hopefully it will get fixed in the
next update. Lisa P. Geibel For Mine and Marcus's Christian and
Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show. For
Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but
press 9998 for that show. For either show, once you're in, press 1, then
0 If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number
and choosing which show you want, press 2. We'd love to hear from anyone
about these shows and thank you for listening. email: lisapgeibel429@...Twitter: LisaLisa429 Facebook: m.facebook.com/ldporter1 May
YHWH bless you all On 12/10/2019 5:55 AM, Vincent Le Goff wrote: >
Hi everyone, > > > This has been happening for some time, on
so many computers and with > so many different NVDA versions I can't
believe I would be the only > one to see this, and it's not a huge
inconvenience, but it's strange > and might be worth looking into.
Regardless of the activity sometimes > NVDA "loses control". The
key hooks (the NVDA key and all the > shortcuts associated with it) stop
working. Using the numeric keypad > works as would without
NVDA. Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key > for me, triggers the
CapLock function. NVDA still works somewhat and > tries to report
information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read > the time, look at
the window title or indeed do lots of things > controlled directly by
NVDA. > > > When does it happen? I've tried to reproduce
the issue and it's > tricky. It never seems to happen at a given
time or in any given > application. All I know is that it seems to
"lose control" when a lot > of memory is required by other applications,
which creates some kind > of lag. So this happens in a browser when
the site has a lot of > scripts for instance. This can happen in
Word if the document is > long. This can happen while the Windows
CLI is opened and a > "demanding" task is running. This can happen
when lots of update > information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets
long). It happens > more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs
doesn't have a lot > of memory. It sounds like a Windows lock, not
NVDA's fault, but is > there a workaround? Restarting NVDA and the
delay it causes isn't > really annoying, but it's definitely
strange. > > > Most important question though: has anyone
noticed this problem? Or am > I the only lucky one? Does
happen! > > > Thanks, > > >
Vincent > > >
>
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Here, it works, but it is not very noticeable...
Rui Fontes
Às 03:04 de 10/12/2019, Don H escreveu:
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Running NVDA 2019.3 beta 1 on a win 10 1903 system. Trying to use the one core voices. It seems that changing the pitch for capital letters does not work. Is this the case?
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Yes, Noelia is finishing an addon to that purpose...
Check the oficial repository in a couple of days...
Rui Fontes
Às 02:29 de 10/12/2019, Don H escreveu:
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Is there any actions being taken to make the speak passwords addon compatible with 2019.3?
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Hi Vincent and others,
SMILE I hate to break your heart, but you're not the only person this happens to. I was very glad to see your message and know that I'm not the only one it happens to. It is a fairly easy fix as you said, but can get to be a bother and you're right, it does seem to happen when I'm trying to do multiple things, but it can also happen when I'm just in the middle of an email. My husband thought it could be TWBlue instead of NVDA as that program does take a lot of resources, but I unloaded TWBlue and was still having problems, so I'm thinking as I first thought that it's something with NVDA and hopefully it will get fixed in the next update.
Lisa P. Geibel For Mine and Marcus's Christian and Messianic audio show, call 631-403-1002 and press 9997 for that show. For Marcus's Big Brother breaking news and shows, call the same number above, but press 9998 for that show. For either show, once you're in, press 1, then 0 If you want to hear previous shows, after dialing the above phone number and choosing which show you want, press 2. We'd love to hear from anyone about these shows and thank you for listening. email: lisapgeibel429@gmail.com Twitter: LisaLisa429 Facebook: m.facebook.com/ldporter1 May YHWH bless you all
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
On 12/10/2019 5:55 AM, Vincent Le Goff wrote: Hi everyone,
This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange and might be worth looking into. Regardless of the activity sometimes NVDA "loses control". The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the shortcuts associated with it) stop working. Using the numeric keypad works as would without NVDA. Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key for me, triggers the CapLock function. NVDA still works somewhat and tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of things controlled directly by NVDA.
When does it happen? I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's tricky. It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given application. All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a lot of memory is required by other applications, which creates some kind of lag. So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of scripts for instance. This can happen in Word if the document is long. This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a "demanding" task is running. This can happen when lots of update information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot of memory. It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is there a workaround? Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't really annoying, but it's definitely strange.
Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or am I the only lucky one? Does happen!
Thanks,
Vincent
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NVDA sometimes loses control and needs to be restarted
Vincent Le Goff <vincent.legoff.srs@...>
Hi everyone,
This has been happening for some time, on so many computers and with so many different NVDA versions I can't believe I would be the only one to see this, and it's not a huge inconvenience, but it's strange and might be worth looking into. Regardless of the activity sometimes NVDA "loses control". The key hooks (the NVDA key and all the shortcuts associated with it) stop working. Using the numeric keypad works as would without NVDA. Pressing Caplocks, which is a NVDA key for me, triggers the CapLock function. NVDA still works somewhat and tries to report information, but one can't open the NVDA menu, read the time, look at the window title or indeed do lots of things controlled directly by NVDA.
When does it happen? I've tried to reproduce the issue and it's tricky. It never seems to happen at a given time or in any given application. All I know is that it seems to "lose control" when a lot of memory is required by other applications, which creates some kind of lag. So this happens in a browser when the site has a lot of scripts for instance. This can happen in Word if the document is long. This can happen while the Windows CLI is opened and a "demanding" task is running. This can happen when lots of update information is sent to NVDA (the message queue gets long). It happens more frequently if the machine on which NVDA runs doesn't have a lot of memory. It sounds like a Windows lock, not NVDA's fault, but is there a workaround? Restarting NVDA and the delay it causes isn't really annoying, but it's definitely strange.
Most important question though: has anyone noticed this problem? Or am I the only lucky one? Does happen!
Thanks,
Vincent
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Re: NVDA 2019.3 Beta 1 is out
Afik Souffir <afik.souffir@...>
Hey rui
Just let us know when the updated driver will uploaded.
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-----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes Sent: Monday, December 9, 2019 9:37 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 Beta 1 is out Hello! For Vocalizer Expressive from Tiflotecnia, we kindly request to deactivate the license, perform the update of NVDA, update the Vocalizer Expressive driver and reactivate the license... Note that the availability of a activation deactived take some hours... so, if you have 0 activations remaining, contact us first... The new sdriver should be uploaded to our webpage in a couple of days... Rui Fontes Tiflotecnia, Lda. Às 16:55 de 09/12/2019, Mike Sedmak escreveu: Will python 3 compatible synthesizers be backwards compatible with 2019.2? Or will vocalizer and other synth users need to: 1. disable the current synth 2. upgrade to 2019.3 3. Download the synth update and re-enable the synthesizer
Thanks, Mike
On 12/9/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Replying to everyone at once just to save traffic:
Kostadin: I'm not sure when the translation freeze will begin, I'd suggest likely early in the new year, but don't quote me on that - I'll try to get you a more up to date answer.
Shaun: I'm not sure what you were replying to there about not wanting another announcement? Which one don't you want? Also re audio themes, yes, it will come, not in 2019.3, but it will come :)
Robert: Feel free to try the beta out, even if you are using non-standard add-ons, at least you can work out what will work and what won't and maybe find an alternative way for some things or convince add-on authors to update (and ideally publish on the community page - unless they.... wouldn't meet the legal requirements, shall we say, in which case, do consider finding an alternative :))
Gene: Glad the update didn't break your startup setting. Fingers crossed it works from now on! :)
Quentin.
On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 7:52 PM hurrikennyandopo ... < hurrikennyandopo@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi Quentin
I noticed this time when I down loaded the beta it keeped my setting for starting nvda when windows starts up. it used to un check the box so glad it is fixed.
Well I am guessing it will stay the same from now on with each beta update?
Gene nz
On 9/12/2019 8:32 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Sky,
The copy to clipboard etc conversation comes up regularly. For now, I'll just direct you to my comment last time this came up: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/66783
Re Remote, there are arguments for and against that. For, as you say, means new users don't need to install an update. Against is we often get asked by companies installing NVDA about security and what data NVDA can or does send. Currently, it's quite easy to answer, as the program sends very little information and no personal information or speech content or what the user is doing. If we included Remote in the core, we'd need to work out how to keep everyone happy. I'm not saying we can't or wouldn't, but it won't be in 2019.3 (not least of which because aside from whether we agree or not, we don't tend to add too many new features after we release a beta - from now on, work on 2019.3 will primarily be around stability and addressing any issues which get reported. New features will still be worked on, but for Alpha releases looking towards inclusion in 2019.1.
Regards
Quentin.
On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 6:21 PM Sky Mundell <skyt@shaw.ca> wrote:
Hello Quentin. I have downloaded the NVDA 2019.3.1 Beta release, and I have noticed a huge improvements over the 2019.2 one. Speech refactor is certainly a wonderful thing and I applaud speech refactor very much. However, there is one suggestion that could be included in the next betas. And that is the ability to have NVDA say, copied to clipboard, cut to clipboard, without the need for an add-on, and the second is I’d like to see the remote functionality built into the core of NVDA so that those of us who train on NVDA like myself can help clients without them having to install add-ons. Thanks, Sky.
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Quentin Christensen *Sent:* Sunday, December 08, 2019 10:24 PM *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io *Subject:* [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 Beta 1 is out
Hi everyone,
The big news you've all been waiting for - 2019.3 beta 1 is out. Read the full release notes here: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta1-now-available-for-te sting/
As well as the update to Python, there are lots of exciting things in this release, some of these were covered in In-Process recently: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-29th-november/ and a few more will be highlighted in the next In-Process
Be sure to download it and please do let us know what works and importantly, what doesn't: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta1-now-available-for-te sting/
Kind regards
Quentin.
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-- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager
Web: www.nvaccess.org Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/ User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>
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Re: Console and NVDA 2019.3 beta 1
I can report that it reads the console for me just fine, on a Surface 4 Pro, or at least, that's what this Surface claims to be. My console UIA support is set to automatic. The checkbox about using legacy text is checked. These are probably 2019.3-Beta1 default settings, since I didn't change anything. Hope that helps.
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On 12/9/2019 10:56 PM, Tyler Spivey wrote: Press NVDA+5 until it says read dynamic content changes on.
If that didn't fix it, try going into NVDA's advanced settings and disable the UIA console. It's some new feature added recently that still has some bugs to iron out.
On 12/9/2019 7:03 PM, Ryan Mann wrote:
This morning, I was trying the beta on a Surface Pro running Windows 10 professional. I noticed that when I opened the console and started typing commands, NVDA didn’t automatically read the output. Does anybody else notice this? If nobody else notices, this might be an issue with my machine.
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