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Re: Firefox options

 

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 01:15 PM, Don H wrote:
Once you are on List general up and down arrows does not take me through the list.
And, I've already stated that means you have a problem and how to address it.  If you won't address it, no one can help you.  This is not normal behavior, and there are clear and specific steps, generally uninstalling and reinstalling, to take care of those.

If the issue is based in your Firefox profile, which I hope it isn't, then there's a whole other layer that might come next.
 
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Re: Firefox options

Don H
 

Once you are on List general up and down arrows does not take me through the list.

On 10/3/2019 11:56 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 12:44 PM, Don H wrote:
When I do as you described I hear list general
The first item in the "control column list" (for lack of a more precise description) is the General Settings.  That's followed by Home, Search, Privacy & Security, then Sync.  Up and down arrowing in that list moves you through the categories.
Once you have the category you want selected in the control column list, you must quadruple Tab to get to the first of the actual settings within that category.  Continuing to tab will step you through the various settings for the category.   Using CTRL+F throws focus directly back to the "Find in options" search box no matter where you are in the settings, then you can triple SHIFT+Tab back to the control column list.
If NVDA's not reading then I'd try either reinstalling NVDA, reinstalling Firefox, or both.
I am using Firefox 69.0.1 and NVDA 2019.2.1
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Re: Firefox options

Henk Mulder
 

Make sure that you are in focus mode (NVDA+space), then you should be able to navigate the list.
I can also see part of the list when I'm in browse mode, but maybe the entries are hidden/ scrolled out of view when you are working in a small window.

On 10/3/2019 6:44 PM, Don H wrote:
When I do as you described I hear list general and can not move to the other categories in the list or what ever it is.

On 10/3/2019 11:24 AM, Henk Mulder wrote:
If you open the options you are in the search field. Press shift+tab 3 times to get in a list with the tabs that you mention. Select the tab you want using the arrow keys and use tab to navigate through the options.

Best,
Henk

On 10/3/2019 5:31 PM, Don H wrote:
Running Win 10 1903, NVDA 2019.2.1 and latest firefox.
If you go to the options menu which is under the tools tab you get a screen with what I guess is tabs for General, Home, Search, Privacy and security and sync.  These are on the left side of the screen.  On the right side of the screen are the various settings for each of the tabs on the left side of the screen.
NVDA reads the right side of the screen but will not allow you to get to the different tabs on the left side of the screen. How do you get to the options on the left side of the screen?
Thanks









Re: Question About Copying Text

 

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 12:43 PM, kelby carlson wrote:
I have tried this.
The "this" referred to by Bianka has to be either using CTRL+A to select all then pasting into Wordpad (in her specific case) or turning off NVDA prior to using the standard Windows keyboard shortcuts for selecting text then turning it back on.

It is insanely complicated to keep using the NVDA pass through key and selecting bits of text from a web page.  If you want to preserve formatting it's far, far easier to do a select all, which works even when NVDA is active, then paste the resulting selection into the editing software of your choice that preserves the formatting and actually hacking out what you need to hack out there.   It also allows you to back out any "ooops-es" you might have made when manipulating said text far more easily, too.
 
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Re: Question About Copying Text

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Same here...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of kelby carlson
Sent: Donnerstag, 3. Oktober 2019 18:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question About Copying Text

I have tried this. However, when I press shift down arrow after passing the key through, all I get is a "no selection" announcement when I try to copy to the clipboard.

On 10/2/19, Bianka Brankovic <bianka.brankovic@...> wrote:
Hi list,

I have been using Brian’s suggested method regularly.

It works with Wordpad as well and even better sometimes as getting
around in a text with preserved HTML structure and a lot of graphics
can be a chore in MS Word wen you solely rely on a screenreader sometimes.

Kind regards,

Bianka





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Re: Firefox options

 

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 12:44 PM, Don H wrote:
When I do as you described I hear list general
The first item in the "control column list" (for lack of a more precise description) is the General Settings.  That's followed by Home, Search, Privacy & Security, then Sync.  Up and down arrowing in that list moves you through the categories.

Once you have the category you want selected in the control column list, you must quadruple Tab to get to the first of the actual settings within that category.  Continuing to tab will step you through the various settings for the category.   Using CTRL+F throws focus directly back to the "Find in options" search box no matter where you are in the settings, then you can triple SHIFT+Tab back to the control column list.

If NVDA's not reading then I'd try either reinstalling NVDA, reinstalling Firefox, or both.

I am using Firefox 69.0.1 and NVDA 2019.2.1
 
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Re: Firefox options

Don H
 

When I do as you described I hear list general and can not move to the other categories in the list or what ever it is.

On 10/3/2019 11:24 AM, Henk Mulder wrote:
If you open the options you are in the search field. Press shift+tab 3 times to get in a list with the tabs that you mention. Select the tab you want using the arrow keys and use tab to navigate through the options.
Best,
Henk
On 10/3/2019 5:31 PM, Don H wrote:
Running Win 10 1903, NVDA 2019.2.1 and latest firefox.
If you go to the options menu which is under the tools tab you get a screen with what I guess is tabs for General, Home, Search, Privacy and security and sync.  These are on the left side of the screen.  On the right side of the screen are the various settings for each of the tabs on the left side of the screen.
NVDA reads the right side of the screen but will not allow you to get to the different tabs on the left side of the screen.  How do you get to the options on the left side of the screen?
Thanks




Re: Question About Copying Text

kelby carlson
 

I have tried this. However, when I press shift down arrow after
passing the key through, all I get is a "no selection" announcement
when I try to copy to the clipboard.

On 10/2/19, Bianka Brankovic <bianka.brankovic@...> wrote:
Hi list,

I have been using Brian’s suggested method regularly.

It works with Wordpad as well and even better sometimes as getting around in
a text with preserved HTML structure and a lot of graphics can be a chore in
MS Word wen you solely rely on a screenreader sometimes.

Kind regards,

Bianka




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Re: NVDA on tablet with touchscreen only

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi ☺
I have the surface go. You can definitely use NVDA with just the touchscreen. However, in my personal experience I find the keyboard works better for me. I'd be happy to answer any questions you may have in regards to NVDA and touchscreens.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2019 8:44 AM
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA on tablet with touchscreen only

Hello,

Reposting this, not sure if it ever went through, I've not heard anything back on it.

I remember a while back I think there was a podcast on NVDA and tablet-interactions with touchscreens only. I'm going to be going on a trip taking a tablet only. It does not have nor do I want to bring an external bluetooth keyboard. I am wondering if anyone knows where that podcast is on tablets. This is a surface pro something, it is running win10.

Thanks.
Dave.


Re: Firefox options

Henk Mulder
 

If you open the options you are in the search field. Press shift+tab 3 times to get in a list with the tabs that you mention. Select the tab you want using the arrow keys and use tab to navigate through the options.

Best,
Henk

On 10/3/2019 5:31 PM, Don H wrote:
Running Win 10 1903, NVDA 2019.2.1 and latest firefox.
If you go to the options menu which is under the tools tab you get a screen with what I guess is tabs for General, Home, Search, Privacy and security and sync.  These are on the left side of the screen.  On the right side of the screen are the various settings for each of the tabs on the left side of the screen.
NVDA reads the right side of the screen but will not allow you to get to the different tabs on the left side of the screen.  How do you get to the options on the left side of the screen?
Thanks



Re: Copying Formatted Text from a Webpage into Word

 

See the topic:  Question About Copying Text, where this very thing has been under discussion for some days now, up through last night.  Unless you have deleted them, the entire topic should still be in your inbox somewhere if you're receiving all messages from the group.

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Copying Formatted Text from a Webpage into Word

kelby carlson
 

All,

I want to copy some text from a webpage into Word while retaining the
format of the text on the webpage. NVDA can retain formatting just
fine when copying from one Word document to another, but when copying
to a webpage it will only paste the plain text no matter what I do. Is
this an NVDA issue or does it have something to do with Word? I do not
have any special ad-ons for the clipboard installed except for Clip
Speak.

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Re: NVDA and reading texts in Grade II

David Csercsics
 

Have you had a look at the Braille Extender add-on? It probably does most of what you want. I know you can switch tables with a hotkey, because I do it frequently since UEB is useless for a lot of things, including coding. It's a pity liblouis doesn't properly support nemeth for math books and equations. I'm not sure how best to handle that but play with the braille extender add-on and see if that can do what you'd like. If not then we can figure something else out.


Re: Firefox options

Sarah k Alawami
 

Can you use object nav to navigate the left side of the screen?

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On 3 Oct 2019, at 8:31, Don H wrote:

Running Win 10 1903, NVDA 2019.2.1 and latest firefox.
If you go to the options menu which is under the tools tab you get a screen with what I guess is tabs for General, Home, Search, Privacy and security and sync. These are on the left side of the screen. On the right side of the screen are the various settings for each of the tabs on the left side of the screen.
NVDA reads the right side of the screen but will not allow you to get to the different tabs on the left side of the screen. How do you get to the options on the left side of the screen?
Thanks


Firefox options

Don H
 

Running Win 10 1903, NVDA 2019.2.1 and latest firefox.
If you go to the options menu which is under the tools tab you get a screen with what I guess is tabs for General, Home, Search, Privacy and security and sync. These are on the left side of the screen. On the right side of the screen are the various settings for each of the tabs on the left side of the screen.
NVDA reads the right side of the screen but will not allow you to get to the different tabs on the left side of the screen. How do you get to the options on the left side of the screen?
Thanks


Re: NVDA and reading texts in Grade II

Brian Moore
 

This is a really good question.  I don't have a braille display to experiment with at the moment so I am only guessing.


As far as I know, there is no hot key to toggle the table used for translation so you couldn't switch from UEB to German grade 2 on the fly.  However, creating two profiles for this should be possible.


I think you will have to switch profiles manually though.  Since both instances will run in word, you don't want to load the profile automatically since the executable filename in both cases will be winword.exe so it wouldn't know which profile to load.


It is entirely to run more than one instance of word on the same computer. I do this regurarly.


Others who actually have a display handy might be able to shed some more light on this.  I think I am correct but can't try it.


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On 10/3/2019 10:42 AM, Cordelia Scharpf wrote:

Hello,

 

Please bear with me for asking a somewhat technical question, which might need to be addressed off-list.

 

I am working with English and German texts and would like to switch reading them in UEB and German grade II on my Braille display. Is there a toggle that lets me control both languages/tables of contractions? Or do I need to generate and save “profiles” and call them up as needed?

 

Can such profiles be run side-by-side in two separate windows  on one PC? In my past experience, such a plan did not seem feasible unless I ran two separate MS Word programs installed on different partitions or different PCs.

 

Best,

Cordelia


Re: NVDA on tablet with touchscreen only

Sarah k Alawami
 

It went through the first time however I don't think anyone has any answers to your questions. We just don't know the answer. Can you borrow tablet and try it out, maybe?

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 3 Oct 2019, at 5:44, David Mehler wrote:

Hello,

Reposting this, not sure if it ever went through, I've not heard
anything back on it.

I remember a while back I think there was a podcast on NVDA and
tablet-interactions with touchscreens only. I'm going to be going on a
trip taking a tablet only. It does not have nor do I want to bring an
external bluetooth keyboard. I am wondering if anyone knows where that
podcast is on tablets. This is a surface pro something, it is running
win10.

Thanks.
Dave.


NVDA and reading texts in Grade II

Cordelia Scharpf
 

Hello,

 

Please bear with me for asking a somewhat technical question, which might need to be addressed off-list.

 

I am working with English and German texts and would like to switch reading them in UEB and German grade II on my Braille display. Is there a toggle that lets me control both languages/tables of contractions? Or do I need to generate and save “profiles” and call them up as needed?

 

Can such profiles be run side-by-side in two separate windows  on one PC? In my past experience, such a plan did not seem feasible unless I ran two separate MS Word programs installed on different partitions or different PCs.

 

Best,

Cordelia


Re: firefox

 

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 02:14 AM, Luke Davis wrote:
It appears better to use the alt menus, which are well organized.
I honestly believe that the Firefox menu button was an afterthought, as they never have removed the conventional menu system from Firefox, just had it hidden by default (and even that can be changed, but I don't see the point of doing so since ALT alone, or ALT plus the conventional letters, e.g., F for file, will throw focus exactly where you'd expect it would).

It is interesting to see that page that confirms the only thing I'd been able to find by noodling around and after web searching left me high and dry as far as any keyboard shortcut for the function of getting to the Firefox open menu button.
 
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Re: NVDA on tablet with touchscreen only

David Csercsics
 

If you find it, ping me as well, as I might be interested in a Windows 10 tablet possibly. I'm looking at different things because iOS seems to be getting more buggy so it's time to rethink devices again.