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BrailleNote Touch as a Braille Display

kelby carlson
 

Are the commands specifically for the BrailleNote Touch listed in
NVDA's user guide the only commands that work on the touch? If so, it
doesn't look like you can do all that much with the Braille display.
For example, there are no commands for selecting or copying text.

--
Kelby Carlson


Re: Virtual Viewer

kelby carlson
 

When I open the Virtual Review window in Word, all it says is
"Navigation". I was hoping it would be similar to the JAWS Virtual
Viewer in Word where you could do things like bring up a list of
footnotes.

On 10/1/19, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:
thanks bryan

----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Vogel
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Virtual Viewer


See the official download page:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/virtualRevision.en.html

The "Usage" section is very brief, but it's a starting point, and probably
all that anyone familiar with the functionality from another screen reader
needs.

I believe there is a lot of discussion going on about documentation for
Add-Ons, and I am hoping that, at the very least, some sort of "Quick Start
Guide" will become required. There are a number of them that I have no idea
how one does anything beyond installing them. I don't expect a
multi-chapter user guide, but something would be nice.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362

The color of truth is grey.

~ André Gide









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Kelby Carlson


Re: Require information about the accessibility of Taleo recruitment software with NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

Dear Sultana,

I'm afraid, all I can share is that I've never heard of this software - no-one has ever asked me about it, and I can't find any mention of it in our issue tracker.

Have you tried contacting the developers of the software to ask them about its accessibility?  If you do use it and find out any more, either way, do please let us know.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 7:58 PM ss sarfudeen <sssarfudeen@...> wrote:
Dear group members,

As the subject line indicates, I would like to be able to use Taleo at
work with NVDA and hence, wish to find out the accessibility of this
software. Please throw some light on this.
Would appreciate your inputs/guidance regarding the query posted above.

With thanks in anticipation,

Sultana





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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Require information about the accessibility of Taleo recruitment software with NVDA

ss sarfudeen
 

Dear group members,

As the subject line indicates, I would like to be able to use Taleo at
work with NVDA and hence, wish to find out the accessibility of this
software. Please throw some light on this.
Would appreciate your inputs/guidance regarding the query posted above.

With thanks in anticipation,

Sultana


Re: Question About Copying Text

Bianka Brankovic <bianka.brankovic@...>
 

Hi list,

 

I have been using Brian’s suggested method regularly.

 

It works with Wordpad as well and even better sometimes as getting around in a text with preserved HTML structure and a lot of graphics can be a chore in MS Word wen you solely rely on a screenreader sometimes.

 

Kind regards,

 

Bianka

 


Re: Learning Python course

 

in that case, i can use python 3.4 or earlier.
i remember that joseph lee mentioned that version 3.4 of python is the
last version which supports xp.

On 10/2/19, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:
There:You can participate programming but I’m afraid you will have to update
your system. No updated programs will work with xp. I know you like it but
I’m afraid you’ll have to update your windows operating system.Over the
years computer coding has changed.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: zahra
Sent: October 1, 2019 2:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Learning Python course

hi quentin.
can i participate in python training if i can learn programming?
i always wished to learn it, but i always afraid of learning programming!
God bless you!

On 10/1/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Hi everyone,

My apologies, I was on leave last week and am still catching up on
messages
and the group. I'm not ignoring anyone :)

In the meantime, I saw this on Facebook, from CAVI - the Cisco Academy
for
the Vision Impaired. They are running a Python course, online and open
to
anyone (and Linux Essentials for anyone interested in that as well). I
know there is often interest in learning Python and if that is you, then
this may be a good opportunity. They don't have it up on their site (or
didn't last I checked), but see this facebook post for details:
https://www.facebook.com/ciscovision/posts/2480801161980927?comment_id=2553215171406192&notif_id=1569841303908710&notif_t=feed_comment_reply


Essentially:

"The courses we will be offering as of January 2020 will be, Python
Essentials and Linux Essentials! 👌👍😃 If you could please send and
email
to neil.hines@..., with the course you'd like to participate
in,
plus your first and last name plus your date of birth and country of
origin, we will be in contact over the next 2 weeks to confirm the course
details and your enrolment into either offering, many thanks in advance,"

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Web: www.nvaccess.org
Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali







--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Text Reading Question

Rick
 

Hello Greg:

 

I also noticed this when I upgraded to version 2019-2. It only happens when you have “UI Automation to access Microsoft Word document controls when available” turn on in the advanced settings. If you turn this off, the behavior goes away.

 

This may be a defect in the UI automation settings behavior of NVDA.

 

Rick

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Greg Rhodes
Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2019 12:03 PM
To: NVDA Users Group <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Text Reading Question

 

When I have a numbered list in a MS Word document, NVDA will read the number e.g. 1 followed by my text, and then read the next number in the list e.g. 2. I arrow down a line and I get the number 2 followed by my text and the number 3. What setting do I change to get NVDA to not read the next line number at the end of the previous line? Thanks.

 

Greg

 


Re: Learning Python course

Arlene
 

There:You can participate programming but I’m afraid you will have to update your system. No updated programs will work with xp. I know you like it but I’m afraid you’ll have to update your windows operating system.Over the years computer coding has changed.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: October 1, 2019 2:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Learning Python course

 

hi quentin.

can i participate in python training if i can learn programming?

i always wished to learn it, but i always afraid of learning programming!

God bless you!

 

On 10/1/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

> Hi everyone,

> My apologies, I was on leave last week and am still catching up on messages

> and the group.  I'm not ignoring anyone :)

> In the meantime, I saw this on Facebook, from CAVI - the Cisco Academy for

> the Vision Impaired.  They are running a Python course, online and open to

> anyone (and Linux Essentials for anyone interested in that as well).  I

> know there is often interest in learning Python and if that is you, then

> this may be a good opportunity.  They don't have it up on their site (or

> didn't last I checked), but see this facebook post for details:

> https://www.facebook.com/ciscovision/posts/2480801161980927?comment_id=2553215171406192&notif_id=1569841303908710&notif_t=feed_comment_reply

> Essentially:

> "The courses we will be offering as of January 2020 will be, Python

> Essentials and Linux Essentials! 👌👍😃 If you could please send and email

> to neil.hines@..., with the course you'd like to participate in,

> plus your first and last name plus your date of birth and country of

> origin, we will be in contact over the next 2 weeks to confirm the course

> details and your enrolment into either offering, many thanks in advance,"

> --

> Quentin Christensen

> Training and Support Manager

> Web: www.nvaccess.org

> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess

> Twitter: @NVAccess <https://twitter.com/NVAccess>

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 


Re: Latest versions of Chrome and Firefox for NVDA 2019

Arlene
 

Denis, Arlene here: I used the latest version of NVDAwith Chrome. I was updated to win ten February this year.  I was in the middle of taking food safe and with that class I had to use NVDA. For some strange reason whatever the site used, the latest version of Jaws could not read it. I used an older version of Jaws on win 7. I thought it was because it was an older version it would not work. But I was wrong. When I got the latest version of Jaws. It would not work for the site. NVDA came through once again!  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: October 1, 2019 7:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Latest versions of Chrome and Firefox for NVDA 2019

 

my favorite version of nvda is 2017

and i havve no issue when using any version of browsers from older

versions to newer ones that work with xp.

not sure about newer versions of nvda and browsers, but i believe that

nvda should be very responsive in browsers regardless of there

versions.

 

On 10/2/19, Dennis Clark <dennis@...> wrote:

> Hello  Everyone,

> In recent days I have installed NVDA. and have read the very excellent

> user manual. I am coming from Jaws, and with that screen reader, the

> most recent versions of Chrome and Firefox do not work at all, or do not

> work well. For this reason, I'm curious which are the latest releases of

> Chrome and Firefox are regarded as working well with NVDA 2019. Also,

> are there other browsers that NVDA users are having success with? Thanks

> in advance for your assistance.

> Dennis

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 


Re: Question About Copying Text

Luke Davis
 

On Tue, 1 Oct 2019, Lanie Molinar wrote:

I just tested it out, and it doesn't work. After I select the text using NVDA, i use NVDA+F2 to pass the next key through and then try to copy the text.
Nothing gets copied though. I'm guessing this is because NVDA overrides the selection process, so when I try to copy, the computer acts like nothing is
selected.
True. I was suggesting using the bypass command with the selection commands as well. You selected the text using NVDA, which is known not to work.

I was mainly asking to find out if it worked, as someone had suggested it on github recently.

The answer is: it does. Specifically:

Move to where you want to start copying from, approximately. Brian's search method might work best for this.
Next, press NVDA+F2.
Then, use shift+arrow keys to select text. Note, that as long as you keep shift pressed, you don't have to press the bypass key again.
Last, when you're done selecting, press NVDA+F2, then Control+C to copy.

Lots of key pressing, but it's an option.

Luke


Re: Question About Copying Text

 

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 10:57 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:
After I select the text using NVDA,
And therein lies the issue.  What I was trying to communicate earlier is that you cannot use NVDA itself to do the actual selection.

Personally, I think it makes a lot more sense to keep NVDA running, use CTRL+A to select all, and paste the whole shebang into MS-Word or similar and do your actual searching for the material you actually want to save in the word processor.  Yes, it's a workaround, but it's not very labor intensive to dig through that text in the word processor and, in fact, I'd say it's less so.

It's very handy that select all, CTRL+A, still works on a webpage just like it does when a screen reader running as it does when it's not.  There is no need for any pass-through gyrations.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 


Re: Question About Copying Text

 

I just tested it out, and it doesn't work. After I select the text using NVDA, i use NVDA+F2 to pass the next key through and then try to copy the text. Nothing gets copied though. I'm guessing this is because NVDA overrides the selection process, so when I try to copy, the computer acts like nothing is selected.

On 10/1/2019 8:50 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 08:11 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
can you do the same thing by using the keyboard bypass command before (each of) your other commands?
I don't know, as I was doing "quick and dirty" experimentation.  I would imagine that pass through would work.  Others here will likely have more opportunity in the very short term to check that than I will.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 

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Re: Latest versions of Chrome and Firefox for NVDA 2019

 

my favorite version of nvda is 2017
and i havve no issue when using any version of browsers from older
versions to newer ones that work with xp.
not sure about newer versions of nvda and browsers, but i believe that
nvda should be very responsive in browsers regardless of there
versions.

On 10/2/19, Dennis Clark <dennis@...> wrote:
Hello Everyone,
In recent days I have installed NVDA. and have read the very excellent
user manual. I am coming from Jaws, and with that screen reader, the
most recent versions of Chrome and Firefox do not work at all, or do not
work well. For this reason, I'm curious which are the latest releases of
Chrome and Firefox are regarded as working well with NVDA 2019. Also,
are there other browsers that NVDA users are having success with? Thanks
in advance for your assistance.
Dennis




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Latest versions of Chrome and Firefox for NVDA 2019

 

The latest Google Chrome is  77.0.3865.90

The latest Brave is Version 0.68.142 Chromium: 77.0.3865.90

The latest Edge Dev is Build 79.0.287.2

I haven't had any issues with NVDA when I've been using it with any of these or Firefox 69.0.1
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 


Re: Latest versions of Chrome and Firefox for NVDA 2019

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Dennis


What do you mean by not working well.


I have a few different browsers on this computer plus the 2 you mention chrome and fie fire fox plus the new edge chromium based version.


I do have a list of browsers that work with nvda up on my website under nvda road test programs page at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

On the road tested page jump down to a heading called browsers and it will also note if not compatible


Is nvda not reading the contents of the web page or what is actually happening so we can help.


Gene nz

.

On 2/10/2019 1:00 PM, Dennis Clark wrote:
Hello  Everyone,
In recent days I have installed NVDA. and have read the very excellent user manual. I am coming from Jaws, and with that screen reader, the most recent versions of Chrome and Firefox do not work at all, or do not work well. For this reason, I'm curious which are the latest releases of Chrome and Firefox are regarded as working well with NVDA 2019. Also, are there other browsers that NVDA users are having success with? Thanks in advance for your assistance.
Dennis




--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Latest versions of Chrome and Firefox for NVDA 2019

Lino Morales
 

Dennis. What version of Firefox do you have installed currently? The current version is 69.0.1. I don't use Chrome so someone else would have to answer that one. What seems tonnot work?

On 10/1/2019 8:00 PM, Dennis Clark wrote:
Hello Everyone,
In recent days I have installed NVDA. and have read the very excellent user manual. I am coming from Jaws, and with that screen reader, the most recent versions of Chrome and Firefox do not work at all, or do not work well. For this reason, I'm curious which are the latest releases of Chrome and Firefox are regarded as working well with NVDA 2019. Also, are there other browsers that NVDA users are having success with? Thanks in advance for your assistance.
Dennis



Latest versions of Chrome and Firefox for NVDA 2019

Dennis Clark
 

Hello Everyone,
In recent days I have installed NVDA. and have read the very excellent user manual. I am coming from Jaws, and with that screen reader, the most recent versions of Chrome and Firefox do not work at all, or do not work well. For this reason, I'm curious which are the latest releases of Chrome and Firefox are regarded as working well with NVDA 2019. Also, are there other browsers that NVDA users are having success with? Thanks in advance for your assistance.
Dennis


Re: Question About Copying Text

 

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 08:11 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
can you do the same thing by using the keyboard bypass command before (each of) your other commands?
I don't know, as I was doing "quick and dirty" experimentation.  I would imagine that pass through would work.  Others here will likely have more opportunity in the very short term to check that than I will.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 


Re: Zoom with nvda

 

www.zoom.us is the site you should start with.





On 10/1/2019 4:53 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


I went to there you tube channel from off the website of theres and I could only find it for the zoom magnifier not the zoom conferencing software. Maybe I missed it.


I think I will also sign up later on today or tomorrow for a free account then do it from the side of it been hosted the basics and lay out etc when I got it worked out.


Also will check out training material from the zoom website etc which I have been doing.


I will do it more on the audio side not all the other stuff I think I will point to videos for that.


Would I have any takers who would like to read the tutorial after it has been typed up especially those who have done it from both sides? to make sure it is right before posting to the website of mine for others to use or follow.

If so I can contact you off list for that or the other way around.


Gene nz


Gene nz




On 2/10/2019 7:02 AM, Samuel Villa wrote:

Hey.

This may be off topic, but on the Freedom Scientific YouTube channel, there is an instructional video on how to use Zoom with JAWS.

Let me know if this was helpful.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: issue with secure banking site

Luke Davis
 

Were either NVDA or Chrome versions different when this was working?

Can you explain more about what exactly is being read?

Luke

On Tue, 1 Oct 2019, Don H wrote:

Running Win 10 1903, NVDA 2019.2 and latest version of Google chrome.
Up until today I could go to my brokers web site and see all my investments by using the arrow keys.
Today the information is on screen as verfied by sighted help but instead of reading the info NVDA announces
hidden column details
Any clue as what is going on?