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Re: Question About Copying Text

Luke Davis
 

On Tue, 1 Oct 2019, Brian Vogel wrote:

reader on and using the standard web browser find, not the screen reader find, to get yourself to the first word or phrase from which you wish to begin
selecting, turning off the screen reader, and using keyboard commands to select and copy the text before turning the screen reader on again. 
Without turning the screen reader off, can you do the same thing by using the keyboard bypass command before (each of) your other commands? In NVDA's case, the bypass command is NVDA+F2.

Luke


Re: In-Process 1st October

Quentin Christensen
 

You are right, and I don't usually worry about inserting the date for the same reason - I'm not sure if there is an easy way for the shop products, but I'll have a look.


On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 9:56 AM Robert Kingett <kingettr@...> wrote:

Thanks! I don't usually edit blog posts or otherwise after I create them, but maybe it would be best to remove that text completely and just let wordpress tell the shopper when it was last updated. I haven't looked at any of the other items but that may be a good idea?



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Training and Support Manager


Re: In-Process 1st October

 

Thanks! I don't usually edit blog posts or otherwise after I create them, but maybe it would be best to remove that text completely and just let wordpress tell the shopper when it was last updated. I haven't looked at any of the other items but that may be a good idea?


Re: So what will happen to my favorite add-ons in the future: September 2019 update

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

I have had confirmation from Code Factory that they have a working version for 2019.3 and will release it around when we are getting ready to release 2019.3.  So yes, you will be able to use Eloquence (and Vocalizer) for NVDA 2019.3!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 4:27 AM kelby carlson <kelbycarlson@...> wrote:
Will the Eloquence synthesizer ad-ons be compatible with NVDA 2019.3?

On 9/18/19, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
> Hi NVDA users,
>
>
>
> At least I'm back in action (slightly reduced workload, but working on NVDA
> coding here and there) and some news to share with you regarding what will
> happen to your favorite add-ons in the future.
>
>
>
> First, a bit of a background for people who don't know what I'm talking
> about:
>
>
>
> This past summer (winter for some), I and other NVDA developers worked on
> preparing NVDA for the future. Specifically, with the impending end of life
> of Python 2 (the original language NVDA is coded in), the developers felt
> it
> is time to shift gears and move onto a more modern way of providing equal
> access to technology: Python 3. In addition to some exciting enhancements,
> it brought many changes under the hood that will make NVDA a viable option
> for all of you in the long term, including some performance enhancements,
> smooth internationalization, and much more.
>
>
>
> One of the questions we received in recent weeks has been about your
> favorite add-ons and the upcoming NVDA 2019.3, the first version to be
> powered by Python 3. Although there were initial bumps, I'm delighted to
> announce that majority of add-ons that you know and love will work with
> NVDA
> 2019.3. Take a look at the following items:
>
>
>
> *     63 percent of add-ons hosted on community add-ons website
> (addons.nvda-project.org) are compatible with NVDA 2019.3.
> *     Several authors have indicated plans to introduce Python 3 support
> to their add-ons soon, and others are working hard on porting their add-ons
> to make them future-proof.
> *     Notable add-on developers, including makers of Vocalizer series and
> DictationBridge, have committed to releasing Python 3 compatible versions
> of
> their add-ons in the future. In case of Vocalizer series, an alpha version
> of old Vocalizer Direct (2.x) is being tested, and a public beta of Python
> 3
> compatible DictationBridge is scheduled to be released shortly after NVDA
> 2019.3 beta 1 is released.
>
>
>
> The add-ons community expects more add-ons to join the ranks of
> future-proof
> add-ons as NVDA 2019.3 release approaches. Until then.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Joseph
>
>
>
>
>


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Kelby Carlson





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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: issue with secure banking site

 

If it's Fidelity investments it would be best to navigate those tables and otherwise and forms mode, and save browse mode for when you want to go to the different account tabs and such. Otherwise, have no clue what bank you deal with, so have no clue what you're talking about.


Re: Virtual Viewer

Kerryn Gunness
 


thanks bryan
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 7:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Virtual Viewer

See the official download page:  https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/virtualRevision.en.html

The "Usage" section is very brief, but it's a starting point, and probably all that anyone familiar with the functionality from another screen reader needs.

I believe there is a lot of discussion going on about documentation for Add-Ons, and I am hoping that, at the very least, some sort of "Quick Start Guide" will become required.  There are a number of them that I have no idea how one does anything beyond installing them.   I don't expect a multi-chapter user guide, but something would be nice.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 


Re: In-Process 1st October

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Robert,

My apologies, that was an omission on my part - we updated the material itself, I just didn't change the date on the shop page.  I've done that now (for both Audio and Braille).  If you go to https://www.nvaccess.org/my-account/downloads/ you can download all the material you have purchased, and the audio version will be the latest one.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 11:56 PM Robert Kingett <kingettr@...> wrote:

2 things. I still see the NVDA getting started audio from 2017 up in the store. Also, if we bought the first getting started audio how do we get the new, upgraded, version?



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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


issue with secure banking site

Don H
 

Running Win 10 1903, NVDA 2019.2 and latest version of Google chrome.
Up until today I could go to my brokers web site and see all my investments by using the arrow keys.
Today the information is on screen as verfied by sighted help but instead of reading the info NVDA announces
hidden column details
Any clue as what is going on?


Re: Virtual Viewer

DJ
 

Brian, thank you for expressing that concern. I also believe that many users would benefit greatly from this implementation. Different people come with different skill levels. Have a great day.

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 7:32 PM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
See the official download page:  https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/virtualRevision.en.html

The "Usage" section is very brief, but it's a starting point, and probably all that anyone familiar with the functionality from another screen reader needs.

I believe there is a lot of discussion going on about documentation for Add-Ons, and I am hoping that, at the very least, some sort of "Quick Start Guide" will become required.  There are a number of them that I have no idea how one does anything beyond installing them.   I don't expect a multi-chapter user guide, but something would be nice.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 


Re: Virtual Viewer

 

See the official download page:  https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/virtualRevision.en.html

The "Usage" section is very brief, but it's a starting point, and probably all that anyone familiar with the functionality from another screen reader needs.

I believe there is a lot of discussion going on about documentation for Add-Ons, and I am hoping that, at the very least, some sort of "Quick Start Guide" will become required.  There are a number of them that I have no idea how one does anything beyond installing them.   I don't expect a multi-chapter user guide, but something would be nice.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 


Re: Virtual Viewer

Kerryn Gunness
 


how do u use the add on?
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019 6:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Virtual Viewer

There is an NVDA Virtual Viewer. Here it is. http://addons.nvda-project.org/files/get.php?file=VR

On 10/1/2019 2:58 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Actually I'd love a virtual viewer like thing at least make it a toggl.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 1 Oct 2019, at 12:54, tim wrote:

I haven’t found one and hope it never comes. That was part of the problem with Jaws crashing.

On Oct 1, 2019, at 2:11 PM, kelby carlson kelbycarlson@... wrote:

Is there anything like the virtual viewer in JAWS that NVDA has? It
would be amazing to be able to easily bring up a list of footnotes in
Word.

--
Kelby Carlson


Re: Question About Copying Text

 

And that sould have been "disabused of the notion that the Copy command is NOT being hijacked . . ."

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 


Re: Question About Copying Text

 

On Tue, Oct 1, 2019 at 06:08 PM, Luke Davis wrote:
On Fri, 27 Sep 2019, Chris Mullins wrote:

Surely these are Windows functions and nothing to do with any screen reader.  Copy the text to the clipboard then try using the “Paste Special” options in
MS Word.  I believe it’s on the Home sub-menu.
They are surely not, at least not in the context of web browsers.
I was of the same mind as Mr. Mullins until this topic came up and I was disabused of the notion that copy, in particular, is being "hijacked" by the screen reader since what it's copying from is the virtual cursor (virtual buffer), not the webpage itself.

There are tricks one can use though, with the screen reader on and using the standard web browser find, not the screen reader find, to get yourself to the first word or phrase from which you wish to begin selecting, turning off the screen reader, and using keyboard commands to select and copy the text before turning the screen reader on again.   See:  Selecting Text Using Windows Keyboard Shortcuts

These shortcuts do not work in a web browser while the screen reader is active, but they sure do when it's not.  I just experimented on an article from the New York Times using NVDA.  If I did a browser find for the text I wanted as the start of my selection block, turned off the screen reader, and used the appropriate keyboard command to select it and what is beyond it (in my case I used SHIFT+Down Arrow to get a line at a time, intentionally overshooting, then turning the screen reader on again and pasting into MS-Word the formatting of all the click-through links is maintained.  There is some danger in picking up sidebar content you may not want using this method if you're selecting a large chunk of text, so you need to check that you don't have anything extraneous.

But it is a way to get a chunk of text out of a web page with formatting preserved for pasting elsewhere that can keep that formatting, like a word processor.

I also found that the CTRL+A command works to select all from the webpage even when NVDA is on, and if you're good at hacking out all that precedes and follows a passage or passages you wish to retain in a word processor, you can paste the whole article (images and all, including sidebar content) into MS-Word and deal with it there.  Even the HTML structure is pasted into Word and shows up in the navigation pane, if you're using same, so the various headings, etc., are there.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1903, Build 18362  

The color of truth is grey.

           ~ André Gide

 

 


Re: NVDA With RH Voice SAPI5

Luke Davis
 

On Sat, 28 Sep 2019, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

You may need to arrow down to download button then either press the space bar or enter key to download the zip file. It only has 2 files in it one been the
main add on and the other for language there is no voices in it unless I delete the file and do a new one. I only tried out 2 of the voices in english to
see what they were like.
A tip: when sending dropbox links in the future, if you change the "dl=0" at the end to "dl=1", it will just start the download immediately, instead of making people look for the download link. May help some people.

Luke


Re: Virtual Viewer

Richard Wells
 

There is an NVDA Virtual Viewer. Here it is. http://addons.nvda-project.org/files/get.php?file=VR

On 10/1/2019 2:58 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Actually I'd love a virtual viewer like thing at least make it a toggl.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 1 Oct 2019, at 12:54, tim wrote:

I haven’t found one and hope it never comes. That was part of the problem with Jaws crashing.

On Oct 1, 2019, at 2:11 PM, kelby carlson kelbycarlson@... wrote:

Is there anything like the virtual viewer in JAWS that NVDA has? It
would be amazing to be able to easily bring up a list of footnotes in
Word.

--
Kelby Carlson


Re: Question About Copying Text

Luke Davis
 

On Fri, 27 Sep 2019, Chris Mullins wrote:

Surely these are Windows functions and nothing to do with any screen reader.  Copy the text to the clipboard then try using the “Paste Special” options in
MS Word.  I believe it’s on the Home sub-menu.
They are surely not, at least not in the context of web browsers.

In a web browser, the text you read with NVDA, is a special reproduction of what was actually on the page. It is called a virtual buffer.
The only time you are interacting with the webpage itself, is when you are in forms mode (focus mode). In order to copy in the way that is desired, you would need to be able to copy in focus mode. Of course, in focus mode, you can't actually hear or read what is being selected.

However, with NVDA+space, you can enter focus mode, use shift+arrow keys to highlight some text blindly, and use Control+C to copy it. Then press NVDA+space again.

At that point, you should be able to paste normally, and get formatting. However, odds are that you won't get the exact same stuff that you were reading before. Things that may have been presented on several lines, for example, may be presented as single selectable elements.

You will have to play with it, and will definitely have to carefully review anything you copy and paste in this way.

Luke


Re: Zoom with nvda

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Dienstag, 1. Oktober 2019 22:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Zoom with nvda

 

Hi

 

I went to there you tube channel from off the website of theres and I could only find it for the zoom magnifier not the zoom conferencing software. Maybe I missed it.

 

I think I will also sign up later on today or tomorrow for a free account then do it from the side of it been hosted the basics and lay out etc when I got it worked out.

 

Also will check out training material from the zoom website etc which I have been doing.

 

I will do it more on the audio side not all the other stuff I think I will point to videos for that.

 

Would I have any takers who would like to read the tutorial after it has been typed up especially those who have done it from both sides? to make sure it is right before posting to the website of mine for others to use or follow.

If so I can contact you off list for that or the other way around.

 

Gene nz

 

Gene nz

 

 

 

On 2/10/2019 7:02 AM, Samuel Villa wrote:

Hey.

This may be off topic, but on the Freedom Scientific YouTube channel, there is an instructional video on how to use Zoom with JAWS.

Let me know if this was helpful.

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.



Strange Problem With NVDA Remote 2.2

Dave Marthouse
 

I experienced a strange problem with NVDA Remote 2.2.


When I was doing an install of NVDA on a Windows10 machine NVDA installed with no problems.  When I attempted to install the remote add-on I was informed that Adobe acrobat could not open this program.  I could not install the remote even when I un-installed Acrobat.  I have installed NVDA and Remote on dozens of computers and never experienced this problem.  Does any one have the fix for this puzzler?



Dave Marthouse

dmarthouse@...


Re: Zoom with nvda

Sarah k Alawami
 

Hello. I have a podcast highlighting the good, the bad and the inaccesibal on zoom rom a mac side but you can perhaps take some of it and convert it into pc stuff. Go to my podcast site in the sig and search for the keyword, zoom.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.
For stuff we sell, mac training materials and  tutorials go here.
and for hosting options go here
to subscribe to the feed click here

Our telegram channel is also a good place for an announce only in regard to podcasts, contests, etc.

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on youtube, twitch and mixer. Thanks Restream staff.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 1 Oct 2019, at 13:53, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


I went to there you tube channel from off the website of theres and I could only find it for the zoom magnifier not the zoom conferencing software. Maybe I missed it.


I think I will also sign up later on today or tomorrow for a free account then do it from the side of it been hosted the basics and lay out etc when I got it worked out.


Also will check out training material from the zoom website etc which I have been doing.


I will do it more on the audio side not all the other stuff I think I will point to videos for that.


Would I have any takers who would like to read the tutorial after it has been typed up especially those who have done it from both sides? to make sure it is right before posting to the website of mine for others to use or follow.

If so I can contact you off list for that or the other way around.


Gene nz


Gene nz




On 2/10/2019 7:02 AM, Samuel Villa wrote:

Hey.

This may be off topic, but on the Freedom Scientific YouTube channel, there is an instructional video on how to use Zoom with JAWS.

Let me know if this was helpful.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Zoom with nvda

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


I went to there you tube channel from off the website of theres and I could only find it for the zoom magnifier not the zoom conferencing software. Maybe I missed it.


I think I will also sign up later on today or tomorrow for a free account then do it from the side of it been hosted the basics and lay out etc when I got it worked out.


Also will check out training material from the zoom website etc which I have been doing.


I will do it more on the audio side not all the other stuff I think I will point to videos for that.


Would I have any takers who would like to read the tutorial after it has been typed up especially those who have done it from both sides? to make sure it is right before posting to the website of mine for others to use or follow.

If so I can contact you off list for that or the other way around.


Gene nz


Gene nz




On 2/10/2019 7:02 AM, Samuel Villa wrote:

Hey.

This may be off topic, but on the Freedom Scientific YouTube channel, there is an instructional video on how to use Zoom with JAWS.

Let me know if this was helpful.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related materials at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

To find out which library networks in New Zealand have a copy of the NVDA screen reader on them and there library locations please go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nz%20libraries%20with%20nvda.html
To find a NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.