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Re: NVDA won't install on win10

David Mehler
 

Hello Everyone,

Thanks to all who offered suggestions. I got the machine fixed. It was
in s mode, the narrator on it wasn't speaking well at all so I
borrowed a pair of eyes, got it out of s mode, and then was able to do
an NVDA install. After that an update from 1803 to 1909 and the
machine was humming along much better.
Again thanks.
Dave.

On 5/8/20, Richard Wells <richwels@gmx.com> wrote:
Your Windows 10 machine is in what is called S Mode. You will need to go
to the Windows App Store to change this.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4456067/windows-10-switch-out-of-s-mode

On 5/8/2020 2:56 PM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

I've got a win10 1803 laptop that is not accepting me trying to run
NVDA portable from a thumb drive, keeps saying I can only install apps
from the microsoft store, I have never seen a setting that will not
allow an NVDA install. How do I fix this?

Thanks.
Dave.





Re: NVDA won't install on win10

Richard Wells
 

Your Windows 10 machine is in what is called S Mode. You will need to go
to the Windows App Store to change this.
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4456067/windows-10-switch-out-of-s-mode

On 5/8/2020 2:56 PM, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

I've got a win10 1803 laptop that is not accepting me trying to run
NVDA portable from a thumb drive, keeps saying I can only install apps
from the microsoft store, I have never seen a setting that will not
allow an NVDA install. How do I fix this?

Thanks.
Dave.


nvda 20.1 startup error

 

Hi all.

Just wandered if anyone has gotten this.

After startup of the system nvda does not always speak saying its reached the desktop but if I hit a key it does.

Even if it does speak, I seem to be getting this error in the log.

There is a similar error when or after the autoupdate check line

on system startup the error is.

ERROR - NVDAObjects.behaviors.LiveText._monitor (11:37:09.710) - Dynamic_KeyboardHandlerBasedTypedCharSupportWinConsoleIAccessibleWindowNVDAObject._monitorThread (3256):
Error getting initial lines
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "NVDAObjects\behaviors.pyc", line 288, in _monitor
  File "NVDAObjects\window\winConsole.pyc", line 73, in _getTextLines
  File "winConsoleHandler.pyc", line 127, in getConsoleVisibleLines
  File "wincon.pyc", line 77, in GetConsoleScreenBufferInfo
OSError: [WinError 6] The handle is invalid.

rnvda

If I exit and relaunch normally including from a portable coppy without any addons and normally there is none.

It seems just to be if nvda is loading at system startup.

Its really not a show stopper, it just is.

Nvda does come up and it does work but still there it is.


Re: NVDA won't install on win10

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Sounds like the school edition of it where it only accepts it from the store and no other place.



I think you can pay some money to make it a full version but if it is a school computer he may not be able to.


In the search box of windows type winver then enter key hopefully it say what it is and not come across one it might have a letter at the end of that version.



I thought at one time there was a copy of nvda put into the store but you could not add ons to it.


Joseph might know more about that.


Gene nz

On 9/05/2020 7:56 am, David Mehler wrote:
Hello,

I've got a win10 1803 laptop that is not accepting me trying to run
NVDA portable from a thumb drive, keeps saying I can only install apps
from the microsoft store, I have never seen a setting that will not
allow an NVDA install. How do I fix this?

Thanks.
Dave.


Re: Remote Relay server

seb naudet
 

Hello,

thank you, do i need to install pithon  or something else?

i've tried to start  the service with  the command :

NVDARemoteServer start

it says starting service and error access denied.

there is two folders for 64 version, which one do i choose?

few more infos would be very helpfull to start :)


    best regards

Le 08/05/2020 à 21:53, Ralf Kefferpuetz a écrit :
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ubtwx5elgfta2y/NVDA_Remote_Servers.zip?dl=0
I think I got them from github end of last year including the compiled versions.

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of seb naudet
Sent: Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 21:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Remote Relay server

Hello list,

i'd like to run my own relay server, does someone know where to find a compiled one for windows?

i've been to the GitHub page of remote relay server, but, if possible, i'd prefer to avoid compiling step.

any idea where to find the server and a simple guide?


thank you








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Re: NVDA won't install on win10

 

Dave,

           If this machine is still on 1803, that's long out of support now.  The first order of business is Doing a Windows 10 Repair Install or Feature Update Using the Windows 10 ISO file, to get yourself on 1909.

           What information is given to you when you hit the Windows Key, immediately type winver, then hit enter?  That would be the starting point for determining edition of Windows 10 involved.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: NVDA version release dates

Adriani Botez
 

Hey Ali,

I have posted a link to filehorse here, there are all the release dates sofar until 0.5.

Thanks.

Best
Adriani

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Ali Savas
Gesendet: Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 21:42
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] NVDA version release dates

Hi,

thank you very much for your help.

If possible, I need a list from version 0.5 to 2020.1. If these dates are not
reproducible, then this is the case.

Best regards
Ali


Re: NVDA won't install on win10

Ali Savas
 

Hi David,

maybe you have a notebook with Windows 10 S. Or the system is configured
so that only applications from the store can be installed.

To be sure, please open the system dialog and see what it says there.
There you will also find the Windows edition.

Best regards
Ali


NVDA won't install on win10

David Mehler
 

Hello,

I've got a win10 1803 laptop that is not accepting me trying to run
NVDA portable from a thumb drive, keeps saying I can only install apps
from the microsoft store, I have never seen a setting that will not
allow an NVDA install. How do I fix this?

Thanks.
Dave.


Re: Remote Relay server

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7ubtwx5elgfta2y/NVDA_Remote_Servers.zip?dl=0
I think I got them from github end of last year including the compiled versions.

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of seb naudet
Sent: Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 21:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Remote Relay server

Hello list,

i'd like to run my own relay server, does someone know where to find a compiled one for windows?

i've been to the GitHub page of remote relay server, but, if possible, i'd prefer to avoid compiling step.

any idea where to find the server and a simple guide?


thank you


Re: NVDA version release dates

Ali Savas
 

Hi,

thank you very much for your help.

If possible, I need a list from version 0.5 to 2020.1. If these dates
are not reproducible, then this is the case.

Best regards
Ali


NVDA verbosity question with outlook.

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

Hi, are there verbosity settings I need to change so that NVDA more closely speaks what Jaws does when I read the outlook status bar?  The first example is Jaws the second is NVDA.

 

Jaws. Items in View 45

Unread Items in View 9

Zoom 10%

 

Status Bar Items in View 45 Unread Items in View 8 Normal View. Show All Pinned Panes. Reading View. Hide All Pinned Panes. Zoom Out Zoom 0 Zoom In Zoom 10% Size box

 


Remote Relay server

seb naudet
 

Hello list,

i'd like to run my own relay server, does someone know where to find a compiled one for windows?

i've been to the GitHub  page of remote relay server, but, if possible,  i'd prefer to avoid compiling step.

any idea where to find the server and a simple guide?


    thank you


Re: NVDA version release dates

Luke Davis
 

For some reason, the devs seem reluctant to include dates in the changes file. However if you really need them, they can be gotten.

If you have a git installation (with related linuxish tools like sed and grep, such as under WSL), and a cloned copy of the NVDA repository, you can do the following. You can change the date format in various ways, if this is not to your liking--E.G. changing "local" to "short", to get 2019-01-01 format dates:

git for-each-ref --sort=taggerdate --format "- %(tag) (%(taggerdate:local))" refs/tags|grep -vE "(rc|beta)"|grep release|tac|sed 's/release-//g'

That is slightly modified from the example in this discussion, to which you might want to add your comment about the use case for dates:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/10013

The above command, on an old copy of the repo that I have laying around, gives the following results:

- 2019.1.1 (Tue Apr 9 21:43:33 2019)
- 2019.1 (Mon Mar 25 16:06:20 2019)
- 2018.4.1 (Sun Jan 13 19:29:29 2019)
- 2018.4 (Sun Dec 16 16:44:00 2018)
- 2018.3.2 (Wed Sep 26 02:45:15 2018)
- 2018.3.1 (Wed Sep 19 19:08:13 2018)
- 2018.3 (Tue Sep 18 00:06:47 2018)
- 2018.2.1 (Sat Jul 7 08:27:36 2018)
- 2018.2 (Wed Jun 13 01:32:22 2018)
- 2018.1.1 (Tue Mar 27 22:30:58 2018)
- 2018.1 (Wed Mar 7 23:39:53 2018)
- 2017.4 (Tue Dec 5 21:34:41 2017)
- 2017.3 (Thu Aug 24 06:45:05 2017)
- 2017.2 (Mon May 29 02:20:51 2017)
- 2017.1 (Tue Feb 21 23:47:11 2017)
- 2016.4 (Thu Dec 15 18:28:38 2016)
- 2016.3 (Tue Sep 6 00:59:00 2016)
- 2016.2.1 (Fri Jun 10 02:09:57 2016)
- 2016.2 (Thu Jun 2 00:50:10 2016)
- 2016.1 (Sun Feb 21 19:50:59 2016)
- 2015.4 (Sun Nov 22 19:32:53 2015)
- 2015.3 (Mon Aug 24 18:46:43 2015)
- 2015.2 (Mon Jun 15 13:33:16 2015)
- 2015.1 (Sun Feb 22 20:29:41 2015)
- 2014.4 (Thu Nov 27 00:11:47 2014)
- 2014.3 (Wed Sep 3 23:28:28 2014)
- 2014.2 (Thu May 22 08:22:52 2014)
- 2014.1 (Wed Mar 12 19:39:23 2014)
- 2013.3 (Tue Dec 3 20:17:57 2013)
- 2013.2 (Thu Aug 29 01:35:00 2013)
- 2013.1.1 (Sun Jun 23 23:33:53 2013)
- 2013.1 (Fri May 17 14:03:02 2013)

Regards,

Luke

On Fri, 8 May 2020, Ali Savas wrote:

I am currently in the process of reworking the German Wikipedia article
from the beginning.

Is there a list of which NVDA version was released on which date? This
would help me a lot to create a version table with a summary of the most
important changes.


NVDA verbosity question with outlook.

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

Hi, are there verbosity settings I need to change so that NVDA more closely speaks what Jaws does when I read the outlook status bar?  The first example is Jaws the second is NVDA.

 

Jaws. Items in View 45

Unread Items in View 9

Zoom 10%

 

Status Bar Items in View 45 Unread Items in View 8 Normal View. Show All Pinned Panes. Reading View. Hide All Pinned Panes. Zoom Out Zoom 0 Zoom In Zoom 10% Size box


Re: NVDA version release dates

Adriani Botez
 

Am 08.05.2020 um 19:40 schrieb Ali Savas <ali-savas@...>:

Hello everyone,

I am currently in the process of reworking the German Wikipedia article
from the beginning.

Is there a list of which NVDA version was released on which date? This
would help me a lot to create a version table with a summary of the most
important changes.

Thank you very much in advance for your help and I wish you a nice evening.

Best regards
Ali




NVDA version release dates

Ali Savas
 

Hello everyone,

I am currently in the process of reworking the German Wikipedia article
from the beginning.

Is there a list of which NVDA version was released on which date? This
would help me a lot to create a version table with a summary of the most
important changes.

Thank you very much in advance for your help and I wish you a nice evening.

Best regards
Ali


Re: Lost voices and speech synths

Luke Davis
 

Hi Gerry.

Some comments and a possible solution below.

On Friday 26th April my Win10 laptop was updated automatically. When the system re-started my NVDA voice had been replaced by Hazel.  On investigation I had lost all voices except Hazel, listed  under Microsoft API version 5 and George, listed under Windows one core voices. The voice I had lost was male,
I probably have the same Windows update, but no such problem. I have access to David, Mark, and Zira (Zira not Zero) across the two MS APIs.

   At the time I was running nvda Feb 19, so I updated to March 19. This made
Just something you may want to know: The NVDA versions are not Feb and March. The NVDA version number is a four digit number representing the year, like 2019 or 2020. Then it has a period, and a single digit number usually between 1 and 4. These do not represent months. It may also have another period, followed by a single digit number. These do not represent days.
In short, 2019.2.1 is not a date, but a version number with three parts, which some voices read as a date because they aren't smart enough to know not to.

That will not hurt you in this situation, but it may be useful to know in other situations. Also, NVDA is now up to 2020.1 (Which, again, is not January, but just means the first version released in year series 2020).
You may want to try upgrading to that.

2    What synthesizers and voices come as standard with nvda?
Espeak, and all of its voices and variants. All the rest come standard with Windows, and NVDA just utilizes them.

3    Would an un-install and re-install fix my problem? I have not tried this as I would need sighted help.
You wouldn't need sighted help. The solution there, is to use Narrator.
In windows, with NVDA shut down, press control+windows+enter, and Narrator will start.
You could get everything ready in NVDA (pre-open relevant windows, download files, etc.), then switch to Narrator for the minimum time necessary to remove NVDA and start the new installation.

That said, it seems very unlikely that you need to reinstall.

Most probably, Windows removed the voices for some reason. To try to get them back, press your windows key and type "speech".
Move down to "speech settings", and press enter.
Then tab over to the "Manage voices" group, and you should be on the "add voices" button.
Press enter on that, and you will be able to enter and choose your language, and then install the appropriate voice pack(s).
In this case, you'll want to install the English (US) voice pack.
Once you select and install the voice, close everything and restart NVDA.

That should solve your problem. If not, post back with exactly what you did and what happened, and someone will probably have further ideas.

5 How can I download the latest User Manual?
The NVDA user manual is always available on the menu.
Press NVDA+n, h, u, and you will be looking at the user guide.
If you want the actual file, while your browser has that open, go to the address bar (for example with control+l), and from there you can copy the path to the actual manual file, which is on your system already.
On mine it is in c:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\documentation\en\userGuide.html

Regards,

Luke


Re: Lost voices and speech synths

Chris
 

You may have to add your voices again

So if you go into settings

Then to time and language

Then speech

And tab to the add voices button

And select your voices from the list to install them

 

 

From: Gerry
Sent: 08 May 2020 15:23
To: NVDA List
Subject: [nvda] Lost voices and speech synths

 

Hi, this is my first post and it is a great list

 

On Friday 26th April my Win10 laptop was updated automatically. When the

system re-started my NVDA voice had been replaced by Hazel.  On

investigation I had lost all voices except Hazel, listed  under

Microsoft API version 5 and George, listed under Windows one core

voices. The voice I had lost was male, possibly David, but I had not

needed to look at this for years. I much prefer the voice I lost.

 

   At the time I was running nvda Feb 19, so I updated to March 19.

This made no difference. Next I reverted to original configuration. This

did make a difference. I now had the following settings.

 

Synthesisors, E speak ng, Microsoft API version 5, Windows one core

 

In Microsoft API 5 I have only Microsoft zero Desk top United States and

Microsoft Hazel English UK.

 

In Windows one core voices I have, George, Susan and Hazel.

 

As I don't like any of these voices, I need to find a way to obtain a

voice I like.

 

 

My questions

 

1 Was the MS update unusual this time as I have never experienced this

situation before?

 

2    What synthesisers and voices come as standard with nvda?

 

3    Would an un-install and re-install fix my problem? I have not tried

this as I would need sighted help.

 

4    I followed the recent  thread on Code factory and Tiflow and wonder

if I should go to one of these ?

 

5 How can I download the latest User Manual?

 

Any advice on these issues would be gratefully received.

 

with thanks

 

Gerry

 

 

 

 

 

 


Lost voices and speech synths

Gerry
 

Hi, this is my first post and it is a great list

On Friday 26th April my Win10 laptop was updated automatically. When the system re-started my NVDA voice had been replaced by Hazel.  On investigation I had lost all voices except Hazel, listed  under Microsoft API version 5 and George, listed under Windows one core voices. The voice I had lost was male, possibly David, but I had not needed to look at this for years. I much prefer the voice I lost.

   At the time I was running nvda Feb 19, so I updated to March 19. This made no difference. Next I reverted to original configuration. This did make a difference. I now had the following settings.

Synthesisors, E speak ng, Microsoft API version 5, Windows one core

In Microsoft API 5 I have only Microsoft zero Desk top United States and Microsoft Hazel English UK.

In Windows one core voices I have, George, Susan and Hazel.

As I don't like any of these voices, I need to find a way to obtain a voice I like.


My questions

1 Was the MS update unusual this time as I have never experienced this situation before?

2    What synthesisers and voices come as standard with nvda?

3    Would an un-install and re-install fix my problem? I have not tried this as I would need sighted help.

4    I followed the recent  thread on Code factory and Tiflow and wonder if I should go to one of these ?

5 How can I download the latest User Manual?

Any advice on these issues would be gratefully received.

with thanks

Gerry

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