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locked Re: Installing Python 3 compatible Eloquence #addonrelease

 

It has been brought to my attention that this topic deals with the hacked version of Eloquence.   Since it is against group rules, everywhere, to discuss hacked or cracked software, or to otherwise encourage illegal activity, this topic is now locked.

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Re: SAPI4 speech engines.Microsoft

Curtis Delzer
 

version 1809 latest windows, at least now,  so that's all I know, and I always keep NVDA up to date.  19.2A is what mine says.

THANKS!

Curtis Delzer
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On 9/7/2019 11:29 AM, Jackie wrote:
What version do you have, Curtis? & what version of Windows. I am
using that exact speech synth w/latest stable NVDA & it works just
fine.

On 9/7/19, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:
I don't know exactly when it began but NVDA lately cannot load my SAPI4
engines I use with it such as Eloquence which comes with Kurzweil 1000.
Window-eyes loads it and I've not checked JFW yet but will and amend
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locked Installing Python 3 compatible Eloquence #addonrelease

Jesse Farquharson
 
Edited

Hello everyone.
So I recently downloaded the Python 3 compatible Eloquence addon. However, when I try and install it... nothing seems to happen. I've tried removing Ultra Eloquence, I've tried it with Ultra Eloquence still installed and Eloquence seems to just disappear.
Can anyone assist?
You can find the addon here  URL REDACTED
It is also listed here URL REDACTED
Thanks.


Re: SAPI4 speech engines.Microsoft

Jackie
 

What version do you have, Curtis? & what version of Windows. I am
using that exact speech synth w/latest stable NVDA & it works just
fine.

On 9/7/19, Curtis Delzer <curtis@...> wrote:
I don't know exactly when it began but NVDA lately cannot load my SAPI4
engines I use with it such as Eloquence which comes with Kurzweil 1000.
Window-eyes loads it and I've not checked JFW yet but will and amend
this message.

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SAPI4 speech engines.Microsoft

Curtis Delzer
 

I don't know exactly when it began but NVDA lately cannot load my SAPI4 engines I use with it such as Eloquence which comes with Kurzweil 1000. Window-eyes loads it and I've not checked JFW yet but will and amend this message.

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Re: Identifying capital letters

Gene
 

Not as far as I know.  I suggest such an option awhile ago but it hasn't been impleented, again, as far as I know.  I don't follow new features closely, though I read announcements about new versions.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2019 4:20 AM
Subject: [nvda] Identifying capital letters

Hi all,

I am well aware of the NVDA settings for indicating capital letters with beeps or saying "cap" before capitals and the pitch change to indicate capitls. What I really want to find a way to do is to use my preferred option (beep for capitals) when using read-all. The capital indications only seem to be performed when reading character-by-character.

I'm writing up my 6,000-word MA degree dissertation and my supervisor noticed there were a few instances where I'd added some text at the start of an existing  sentence and forgotten to turn the old first letter to lower case. The only way I could detect that would be by reading the 34,869 characters one by one and listening for the beep. That is not an option!

Is there any way to get the capital indication to be active during read-all?

Thanks,

Giles


Re: Identifying capital letters

 

Giles,

        Am I safe in presuming you're using MS-Word as your word processor?   If so we should open up a topic in the Chat Subgroup as there are some tricks you could possibly use with Word's own find and replace (whether you're replacing or not) function that would let you find embedded capitals mid-word or capitalized words mid-sentence.   It wouldn't be able to distinguish when proper names are involved mid-sentence, though.
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Re: Identifying capital letters

 

Giles,

           As both a regular expression geek, and someone who's spent a lot of time in the halls of academe over the years, I would really suggest that you hire yourself a proofreader.   And I'm not saying this because you're blind, either.

           An experienced proofreader can pick up on all sorts of stuff, very quickly, without knowing anything much at all about the subject matter as that's not what their focus is.  If you are doing a master's thesis it is well worth the money to hire a proofreader if at all possible.

           The only way I have ever been able to proof my own material is if I set it aside after writing it for some time before revisiting it again, as just "knowing what I meant to put there" often results in my seeing what's not there, but instead what I had intended.   That's a luxury, time-wise, that one does not have with theses in general.

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Re: Clock-19.09-dev #addontesting

Abdel
 

Hi Robert,

In fact, when you enter your start and end times, whether in 12-hour or 24-hour format, you enter only one string.

It is only then that the time entered is converted into real time format and the comparison is made.

Can you confirm that the bug is fixed, or do you still have a problem when the start time is greater than the end time?

Regarding your clock chimes, you are welcome.

Thanks.

Kind Regards,
Abdel.

Le 30/08/2019 à 13:56, Robert Doc Wright godfearer a écrit :

Out of curiosity isn’t the focus placed on the AM and PM so that no matter how large a number before the focus is the start time will be determined by AM or PM?

 

Also, I plan on creating some more clock chimes.

 

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From: Abdel
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2019 3:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io; nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Clock-19.09-dev #AddonTesting

 

Hi everybody,

 

I am Abdel, a collaborator for the add-on Clock and calendar.

 

Someone reported the following bug when using quiet hours:

 

If the start time is greater than the end time, the duration of the

quiet hours does not arrive until the end time.

 

In principle, it must be the next day that must be automatically chosen

through an internal code.

 

This code is in the timeInRange function, defined in the dtfunctions module.

 

This function has been corrected as follows, to fix the bug:

 

> def timeInRange(startTime, endTime, checkTime, use24hour=False):

>     """

>     A function that can be used to check whether the time range

> received as a parameter does not match a specific time.

>     @param startTime: The start time in the range.

>     @type startTime: basestring.

>     @param endTime: The end time in the range.

>     @type endTime: basestring.

>     @param checkTime: The time that will allow for the verification.

>     @type checkTime: basestring.

>     @param use24hour: optional: A boolean to determine whether the

> specified times format are 24-hour format or not.

>     @type use24hours: boolean.

>     @returns: A Boolean corresponding to the verification.

>     @rtype: boolean.

>     """

>     start=parseTime(startTime, use24hour)

>     end=parseTime(endTime, use24hour)

>     check=parseTime(checkTime, use24hour)

>     if end<start:

>         end+=timedelta(days=1)

>         if check < start:

>             check+=timedelta(days=1)

>     return start<=check<end

 

 

The 19.09-dev version of the add-on is downloadable here, it is also

available by clicking on the "development version" link on the community

site, as well as with addonUpdater, in the dev channel:

 

> http://cyber25.free.fr/nvda-addons/clock-19.09-dev.nvda-addon

 

 

It will remain in development version during a period of 2 weeks.

 

Thanks in advance for confirming me if the bug persists or not.

 

Kind regards,

Abdel.

 

 

 

 


Re: Identifying capital letters

Giles Turnbull
 

given the suggestions about regular expression searches, would it be possible to write a regular expression for NVDA's speech dictionary where a capital letter anywehre gets spoken as, for example, Home as "capital Home," or hOme as "h capitl Ome?"

That would enable me to listen from start to end, something I'm going to need to do before submission, and hear any cap;capitals as I go?

Thanks for the suggested regular expressions, Luke :)

Giles


Re: ALVA 544 Satellite Traveller braille display with NVDA

J.G
 

Hello,

as I have tested successfully, you have 2 choyses.
the first is relatively expensive but very useful. if you can, borrow or buy also protocol converter from Optelec (support has ended) which introduce satellite displays to system as BC displays.
second is that you buy srs232 converter it means, if you have only usb ports on your pc, that you plug in usb side into pc and the other side of converter (serial called also rs232) connect with cable to alva's serial port. In this case you should use brltty.
remember: you must know on which com port a display is connected, so you can setup brltty. and if you use brltty, do not use usb connection on windows with this display.
hope it helps.

regards, Jožef

p.s. braille extender addon cannot help.


Re: Identifying capital letters

Luke Davis
 

Giles, unfortunately there is no such functionality in NVDA.
An add-on for this could be written, but to my knowledge at least, one hasn't.

As Chris suggested, however, if you have an editor which supports regular expression searches, you may be able to find (most of) the problem areas.

This regexp:

[\.\?!] +[a-z]|[a-zA-Z0-9,\+\)\]\"\'\`-] [A-Z]|^ *[a-z]

Finds every capitalization error in the following test text, with no false positives, using Notepad++ with case sensitive searching (you must use case sensitive searching, of course).

This is the first line, and shouldn't be found.
This Is the second line. It should be targeted because of "is".
This is the third, And should be captured like the 2nd! twice!
This fourth line shouldn't be found.
but this 5th line should.

The regexp above only works assuming certain sentence ending characters, and word boundary characters. Character sets can break it, different punctuation style can break it, almost anything can break it. There are probably more robust ways to write it, using more agnostic word boundary characters and such. I am in a hurry, so I will leave improving it to Brian and others, but it's a start I think.

Good luck.

Luke


Re: Identifying capital letters

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Giles

You could try editing your text using an editor that supports search using a regular expression, such as EdSharp.  You could set a pattern of capital letters not preceded by a period, one or more space characters and or line break characters.  I’m sorry I don’t have the knowhow to give you the pattern but I’m sure there are RE experts on the list who could provide this for you. 

 

Good luck

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Giles Turnbull
Sent: 7 September 2019 10:20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Identifying capital letters

 

Hi all,

I am well aware of the NVDA settings for indicating capital letters with beeps or saying "cap" before capitals and the pitch change to indicate capitls. What I really want to find a way to do is to use my preferred option (beep for capitals) when using read-all. The capital indications only seem to be performed when reading character-by-character.

I'm writing up my 6,000-word MA degree dissertation and my supervisor noticed there were a few instances where I'd added some text at the start of an existing  sentence and forgotten to turn the old first letter to lower case. The only way I could detect that would be by reading the 34,869 characters one by one and listening for the beep. That is not an option!

Is there any way to get the capital indication to be active during read-all?

Thanks,

Giles


Re: Buttons and links not reading.

Chantelle Buys
 

Hi.

Is there some way to use some of the portable NVDA files for the installed NVDA?

The portable one which is also an older version does say link or
button before reading the link or button however, the latest portable
version of NVDA has the same problem as the installed version of NVDA.

Chantelle

On 9/6/19, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:
You probably got that damn optional update then support told you to
reinstall windows.

Sadly windows10 at least from latest release or even before in some
situations is not as atable like it once was.

The fact, that I was reduced from a good system to a total reformat to
make a problem go away which is not generated by me is proof that
windows as a serviced os has some disadvantages.

I am not saying go back to the older model but I do think for those that
want it there should be an lts windows like mozilla stuff is.

That way you could get the latest lts, even have an option use it and
update security till you had to update to the latest.

And while I don't mind the twice yearly updates, after my experience, I
could go back to the older system way of doing things I think.



On 7/09/2019 6:09 am, Chantelle Buys wrote:
Hi.

I just finnished reinstalling windows this morning and updating it. My
windows was corrupted and I had no choice but to reinstall windows.

Chantelle

On 9/6/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
You may have to repair Windows or reinstall it. I don't know which may
be
more likely to correct the problem.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Chantelle Buys
Sent: Friday, September 06, 2019 12:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Buttons and links not reading.


Hi.

I've run Run COM Registration Fixing tool but, I'm still having the
same problem.

Chantelle

On 9/6/19, Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@...> wrote:
Pls try to go to the NVDA menu, T for tools and then run the Run COM
Registration Fixing tool from there, reboot and see if it solved the
issue.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chantelle
Buys
Sent: Freitag, 6. September 2019 19:31
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Buttons and links not reading.

Hi.

Well, narrator says link and button.

I hate narrator though, drives me up a wall.

I can download the NVDA remote then you can see what it does.

Chantelle

On 9/6/19, Brian Moore <bmoore@...> wrote:
Hi Chantelle.

This is very odd. Haave you tried with narrator as well as nvda and
do you get the same behavior?


I suspect you will.


I am happy to try and help with nvda remote if you have that. if not,
I can explain how to get it.

If you like.

Brian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123

On 2019-09-06 12:20 p.m., Chantelle Buys wrote:
Hi Brian.

It did it from the first time I've reinstalled windows.

Microsoft Edge won't work with NVDA and so, I'm using Google Chrome.

Chantelle.

This also happens in other programs like KasperSky or anything that I
want to install.

Chantelle

On 9/6/19, Brian Moore <bmoore@...> wrote:
Hi. What browser are you using?


I have never seen this behavior and I can't think of a setting to
turn those control types off?


Did it work when you first re-installed the system and then stopped?


Happy to try and help.

Brian.

Contact me on skype: brian.moore
follow me on twitter:
http://www.twitter.com/bmoore123

On 2019-09-06 9:46 a.m., Chantelle Buys wrote:
Afternoon everyone.

I had to reinstall windows and now that it's up to date again I've
found that NVDA won't do the following.

1. It doesn't read buttons for instance it doesn't say compose
button or link download. It only reads the buttons and links
without saying if it is a button or link.

Also, it doesn't say editable when you get to an edit box.

Is there a setting that I have to change?

Thanks.

Chantelle

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Identifying capital letters

Giles Turnbull
 

Hi all,

I am well aware of the NVDA settings for indicating capital letters with beeps or saying "cap" before capitals and the pitch change to indicate capitls. What I really want to find a way to do is to use my preferred option (beep for capitals) when using read-all. The capital indications only seem to be performed when reading character-by-character.

I'm writing up my 6,000-word MA degree dissertation and my supervisor noticed there were a few instances where I'd added some text at the start of an existing  sentence and forgotten to turn the old first letter to lower case. The only way I could detect that would be by reading the 34,869 characters one by one and listening for the beep. That is not an option!

Is there any way to get the capital indication to be active during read-all?

Thanks,

Giles


Re: One Issue with Web Form and Another with a Program Installer

Luke Davis
 

Ibrahim

You wrote:

Secondly, when I attempt to install some downloaded programs, and I
get to the set up point, all I hear is set up, and nothing happens:
has anyone ever had this problem? how did you resolve it. How did you
eventually set up the program.
Are you using an installed copy of NVDA, or a portable copy?
If you are using a portable copy, and you try to run an installer, and it tries to use elevated privileges, you won't be able to hear what's happening.

If you are using an installed copy of NVDA, and you don't have it set to speak on secure screens (nvda menu, preferences, settings, general), you will have problems.

If it is neither of those things, then it is specific to the installer. We would have to know what the installer is, in order to help you.
There is no "usual" way of dealing with this, it depends on the factors of the situation.

Luke


Re: One Issue with Web Form and Another with a Program Installer

 

On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 11:02 PM, Blaster wrote:
This particular form traps you in some type of simulated word
processor.
Yep, though I was able to make it around just a bit using NVDA object navigation, but it's still not anything like what I'd consider accessible. I'd hoped one might be able to compose in a word processor and then copy/paste into that composition box, but it doesn't even carry over the formatting, which most web forums I use actually do, or at least retain things like links, etc.

It's visually striking, looking almost like a word processor, but these behaviors with regard to accessibility as well as tossing common HTML formatting when copying from MS-Word and pasting in is really strange.

If nothing else, it's worth complaining to the site owner about the state of affairs.
 
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Re: One Issue with Web Form and Another with a Program Installer

Blaster
 

This particular form traps you in some type of simulated word
processor. If your familiar with the WordPress classic editor it's
very similar. Your stuck in a textbox with text formatting buttons
above it like, bold, Italic, Indent, Add photo, ect… Your trapped in
the textbox area. I was able to bounce around a little bit more with
JAWS, but not in any meaningful way. I'm doubtful anyone will have a
solution to using this website.

On 9/6/19, Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss> wrote:
Some forms have issues,

Sometimes you will have to exit forms mode and move down to the next field.

Sometimes the forms themselves are badly coded.

Setting things up that say setup.

It could be a self extracter and you hit the space button and they work
or a visual installer.

If its a visual installer, chances are you can probably still extract it
with something like 7zip, and run the setup inside the installer itself
and its ok or use nvda ocr or narator on it.

Chance is you can still use alt n for next, alt b for back, alt c for
cancel, alt i for install or alt s for start, alt y or n for licence
aggreements.

I do get different language installers that do this to.


On 7/09/2019 11:52 am, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:
Hi good people:
Please I have two different issues I will like addressed.
The first issue has to do with filling out some details on a form fill
on a website.
When I got to the site, and I typed in some information in to the
first dialog box, I am unable to
move out of that field, to the next. I used the escape key, but it
didn't work. I had to shut down the browser all together. Please has
anyone ever had this problem? how did you solve it. I hope the issue
is well understood.
Secondly, when I attempt to install some downloaded programs, and I
get to the set up point, all I hear is set up, and nothing happens:
has anyone ever had this problem? how did you resolve it. How did you
eventually set up the program.
thanking you in advance for your help.
Ibrahim.



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Re: One Issue with Web Form and Another with a Program Installer

 

Some forms have issues,

Sometimes you will have to exit forms mode and move down to the next field.

Sometimes the forms themselves are badly coded.

Setting things up that say setup.

It could be a self extracter and you hit the space button and they work or a visual installer.

If its a visual installer, chances are you can probably still extract it with something like 7zip, and run the setup inside the installer itself and its ok or use nvda ocr or narator on it.

Chance is you can still use alt n for next, alt b for back, alt c for cancel, alt i for install or alt s for start, alt y or n for licence aggreements.

I do get different language installers that do this to.

On 7/09/2019 11:52 am, Ibrahim Ajayi wrote:
Hi good people:
Please I have two different issues I will like addressed.
The first issue has to do with filling out some details on a form fill
on a website.
When I got to the site, and I typed in some information in to the
first dialog box, I am unable to
move out of that field, to the next. I used the escape key, but it
didn't work. I had to shut down the browser all together. Please has
anyone ever had this problem? how did you solve it. I hope the issue
is well understood.
Secondly, when I attempt to install some downloaded programs, and I
get to the set up point, all I hear is set up, and nothing happens:
has anyone ever had this problem? how did you resolve it. How did you
eventually set up the program.
thanking you in advance for your help.
Ibrahim.


.


Re: One Issue with Web Form and Another with a Program Installer

Blaster
 

Ibrahim, I subscribed to that website and then followed your link and
had the exact same experience. I tried using JAWS and had the same
results. It would be surprising to me if anyone could navigate such
an inaccessible website. If, by chance, the program your trying to
install is the Bluestacks android emulater, it too is inaccessible. At
least it was the last time I tried to install it. The Android OS is
open source, and that's a good thing, however it also means there are
no accessibility standards imposed on programmers and they may be
totally unaware that accessibility code exists. Anyway, more
experienced NVDA users may have answers for you.

Good luck,
Blaster

On 9/6/19, Ibrahim Ajayi <@kobisko> wrote:
Hello:
This is the link:
https://forums.androidcentral.com/newthread.php?do=newthread&f=1474
When I get in to the dialog, and type the headline of the problem, and
I get to the next field with the tab key, that says rich text editor,
I am unable to get out and not even to get back to the previous field.
Ibrahim.

On 9/7/19, Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
It would also help to have direct links to the installers that are being
problematic.

Working with these sorts of arcane problems generally requires direct
contact with the items that are misbehaving if one hopes to get a
resolution.
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