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Re: Shutting window in Winamp

Gene
 

Perhaps you are asking about the global hotkeys dialog.  I don't know why you may be having problems in that dialog.  I doubt it is related to NVDA but you can check, as I said, with another screen-reader. 

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2019 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Shutting window in Winamp

What version of Winamp are you using?  I'm using 5.66 and there is nothing about abbreviations in the general dialog.  Are you using the beta?  Maybe the program gets stuck somehow on a certain item.  Maybe you will have to try tabbing, then stopping on the item before the one that is causing a problem.
Then, if you want to see the items past the one causing the problem, try opening preferences, then shift tabbing then stopping on the item before the one that causes you a problem. 
 
You can see if NVDA has anything to do with Winamp getting stuck on the item that causes you problems by using something like Narrator or JAWS and seeing if you have a problem.  That way you can see if the problemn occurs regardless of screen-reader. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2019 3:27 PM
Subject: [nvda] Shutting window in Winamp

Good evening group,

I have found out a big problem in Winamp.

When I open Winamp and preferences and general abbreviations, then 8
times I press key tab, then I can't shut it's window, and I can't go any
where.

I can only set abbreviations.

I wonder, what can I do for shut winamp
's window.

Could you please give me an advice?

Nvda is silent by pressing tab.


--
Jarek




Re: Shutting window in Winamp

Gene
 

What version of Winamp are you using?  I'm using 5.66 and there is nothing about abbreviations in the general dialog.  Are you using the beta?  Maybe the program gets stuck somehow on a certain item.  Maybe you will have to try tabbing, then stopping on the item before the one that is causing a problem.
Then, if you want to see the items past the one causing the problem, try opening preferences, then shift tabbing then stopping on the item before the one that causes you a problem. 
 
You can see if NVDA has anything to do with Winamp getting stuck on the item that causes you problems by using something like Narrator or JAWS and seeing if you have a problem.  That way you can see if the problemn occurs regardless of screen-reader. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2019 3:27 PM
Subject: [nvda] Shutting window in Winamp

Good evening group,

I have found out a big problem in Winamp.

When I open Winamp and preferences and general abbreviations, then 8
times I press key tab, then I can't shut it's window, and I can't go any
where.

I can only set abbreviations.

I wonder, what can I do for shut winamp
's window.

Could you please give me an advice?

Nvda is silent by pressing tab.


--
Jarek




Re: Anybody have an accessible password service?

Nikola Jovic
 

Mini kee pass works, but it is pretty outdated and is not exactly the
best solution for this. It lacks any kind of auto filling of passwords
so you have to copy and paste them manually, same for touch ID
authentication. On the other hand, if you use Android, there is a
great Kee pass app which does both of these just fine.

On 12/8/19, Richard Bartholomew <rlbart53@gmail.com> wrote:
Just in case you didn’t know, the phone app for KeePass is called
MiniKeePass and is fully usable.


Re: Anybody have an accessible password service?

Richard Bartholomew
 

Just in case you didn’t know, the phone app for KeePass is called MiniKeePass and is fully usable.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 08 December 2019 22:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Anybody have an accessible password service?

 

Note that warning about the site pushing Keepass is not the official site - it's a fake site setup to push malware (they also have sites offering other software such as 7Zip, which again isn't the real version.

 

I have used KeePass and it works ok.  I was thinking of changing to 1Password for the ability to more easily use it with my wife and also between my PC and my phone.

 

 

On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 3:09 PM Luis Guerra <wnynewjersey@...> wrote:

Site Promoting KeePass Password Manager Pushes Malware
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/site-promoting-keepass-password-manager-pushes-malware/



 

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Training and Support Manager

 


Re: Anybody have an accessible password service?

Quentin Christensen
 

Note that warning about the site pushing Keepass is not the official site - it's a fake site setup to push malware (they also have sites offering other software such as 7Zip, which again isn't the real version.

I have used KeePass and it works ok.  I was thinking of changing to 1Password for the ability to more easily use it with my wife and also between my PC and my phone.


On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 3:09 PM Luis Guerra <wnynewjersey@...> wrote:
Site Promoting KeePass Password Manager Pushes Malware
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/site-promoting-keepass-password-manager-pushes-malware/





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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: I can only hit enter on buttons, sometimes i have to left click on them instead

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Sarah,

I'm not familiar with Fly Virtual, but since you are using object navigation to get around, does NVDA+enter (Activate current navigator object) work?

Sometimes with object navigation, you can then use NVDA+shift+backspace (move system focus to current navigator object) then enter (and sometimes you can't).

Alternatively, to use the mouse, NVDA+shift+m moves the mouse to the current navigator object, then NVDA+[ is a left button click.  Note that depending on the object, the mouse may not move to exactly the right position.

Also, according to your log, you are using NVDA 2019.2.1, which is the current version.

Quentin.

On Sun, Dec 8, 2019 at 7:14 AM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

I have to check what version of NvDA I'm running, I am not on the computer on which this is happening. I did collect a log but basically what happens is this. I can tab to controls but I have to up and down arrow to them then hit enter. I cannot hit space or enter when using the tab key only. I can't really explain what happens besides that, but it is getting annoying. I used to be able to up and down arrow to controls and just hit enter on clickable items on apps and in other programs and on websites. Is this a computer issue? An nvda issue? Or what. Here is my log. I believe I'm running 1909, but I believe this has ben happening for a few months now.

INFO - main (18:13:48.677):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (18:13:49.242):
Config dir: C:\Users\Sarah\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager.loadConfig (18:13:49.242):
Loading config: C:\Users\Sarah\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (18:13:49.308):
NVDA version 2019.2.1
INFO - core.main (18:13:49.308):
Using Windows version 10.0.18363 workstation
INFO - core.main (18:13:49.309):
Using Python version 2.7.16 (v2.7.16:413a49145e, Mar 4 2019, 01:30:55) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (18:13:49.309):
Using comtypes version 1.1.7
INFO - core.main (18:13:49.309):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
INFO - synthDrivers.espeak.SynthDriver.
init_ (18:13:49.522):
Using eSpeak NG version 1.49.3 dev
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (18:13:49.572):
Loaded synthDriver espeak
INFO - core.main (18:13:49.572):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (18:13:49.573):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (18:13:49.575):
Using liblouis version 3.10.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (18:13:49.578):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
WARNING - core.main (18:13:49.608):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (18:13:49.618):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
INFO - external:globalPlugins.translate.GlobalPlugin.
init_ (18:13:52.913):
Translate module initialized, translating to en
INFO - core.main (18:13:52.963):
NVDA initialized
ERROR - scriptHandler.executeScript (18:16:34.029):
error executing script: <bound method GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_next of <globalCommands.GlobalCommands object at 0x056B0EB0>> with gesture u'shift+NVDA+right arrow'
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "scriptHandler.pyo", line 192, in executeScript
File "globalCommands.pyo", line 892, in script_navigatorObject_next
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in get
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects__init
.pyo", line 768, in _get_simpleNext
File "NVDAObjects__init
.pyo", line 761, in _findSimpleNext
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get
_
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\MSHTML.pyo", line 623, in _get_presentationType
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get
_
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects__init
.pyo", line 706, in _get_presentationType
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get
_
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\MSHTML.pyo", line 793, in _get_states
File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyo", line 226, in __call
_
File "comtypes\automation.pyo", line 729, in invoke
COMError: (-2147352319, None, (None, None, None, 0, None))
ERROR - scriptHandler.executeScript (18:16:34.065):
error executing script: <bound method GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_previous of <globalCommands.GlobalCommands object at 0x056B0EB0>> with gesture u'shift+NVDA+left arrow'
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "scriptHandler.pyo", line 192, in executeScript
File "globalCommands.pyo", line 911, in script_navigatorObject_previous
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get
_
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects__init
.pyo", line 771, in _get_simplePrevious
File "NVDAObjects__init
.pyo", line 761, in _findSimpleNext
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get
_
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\MSHTML.pyo", line 623, in _get_presentationType
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get
_
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects__init
.pyo", line 706, in _get_presentationType
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get
_
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\MSHTML.pyo", line 793, in _get_states
File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyo", line 226, in __call
_
File "comtypes\automation.pyo", line 729, in invoke
COMError: (-2147352319, None, (None, None, None, 0, None))
INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (18:37:21.568):
Developer info for navigator object:
name: u'Welcome To Fly Virtual'
role: ROLE_GRAPHIC
states:
isFocusable: False
hasFocus: False
Python object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.mozilla.Mozilla object at 0x05CE9F50>
Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.mozilla.Mozilla'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.ia2Web.Ia2Web'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)
description: u''
location: RectLTWH(left=611, top=240, width=715, height=102)
value: None
appModule: <'firefox' (appName u'firefox', process ID 7364) at address 5a1a5b0>
appModule.productName: u'Firefox'
appModule.productVersion: u'70.0.1'
TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>
windowHandle: 329924
windowClassName: u'MozillaWindowClass'
windowControlID: 0
windowStyle: 382664704
extendedWindowStyle: 256
windowThreadID: 7160
windowText: u'Charter Center - Fly Virtual - Mozilla Firefox'
displayText: u''
IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible2) ptr=0x81b5a8c at 5ab8210>
IAccessibleChildID: 0
IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=329924, objectID=-4, childID=-16801020
IAccessible accName: u'Welcome To Fly Virtual'
IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_GRAPHIC
IAccessible accState: (0)
IAccessible accDescription: u''
IAccessible accValue: None
IAccessible2 windowHandle: 329924
IAccessible2 uniqueID: -16801020
IAccessible2 role: ROLE_SYSTEM_GRAPHIC
IAccessible2 states: IA2_STATE_OPAQUE (1024)
IAccessible2 attributes: u'margin-left:0px;src:http\://flyvirtual.net/lib/skins/flyvirtual_1.0/images/banner.png;text-align:center;draggable:true;text-indent:0px;margin-right:0px;tag:img;class:img-responsive;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;display:block;explicit-name:true;'
INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (18:37:21.865):
Developer info for navigator object:
name: None
role: ROLE_EDITABLETEXT
states: STATE_MULTILINE, STATE_READONLY, STATE_FOCUSED, STATE_FOCUSABLE
isFocusable: True
hasFocus: True
Python object: <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_IAccessibleRichEdit50WindowNVDAObject object at 0x05CB8A10>
Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.Dynamic_IAccessibleRichEdit50WindowNVDAObject'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.edit.RichEdit50'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.edit.RichEdit'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.edit.Edit'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.EditableTextWithAutoSelectDetection'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.EditableText'>, <class 'editableText.EditableText'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)
description: None
location: RectLTWH(left=2, top=45, width=1899, height=993)
value: u'INFO - __main
_ (18:13:48.677):\rStarting NVDA\rINFO - core.main (18:13:49.242):\rConfig dir: C:\Users\Sarah\AppData\Roaming\nvda\rINFO - config.ConfigManager.loadConfig (18:13:49.242):\rLoading config: C:\Users\Sarah\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini\rINFO -' (truncated)
appModule: <'nvda' (appName 'nvda', process ID 13512) at address 57107d0>
appModule.productName: u'NVDA'
appModule.productVersion: u'2019.2.1'
TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.window.edit.ITextDocumentTextInfo'>
windowHandle: 526682
windowClassName: u'RICHEDIT50W'
windowControlID: -31894
windowStyle: 1377900612
extendedWindowStyle: 0
windowThreadID: 3440
windowText: u'INFO - __main
_ (18:13:48.677):\r\nStarting NVDA\r\nINFO - core.main (18:13:49.242):\r\nConfig dir: C:\Users\Sarah\AppData\Roaming\nvda\r\nINFO - config.ConfigManager.loadConfig (18:13:49.242):\r\nLoading config: C:\Users\Sarah\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini\r\n' (truncated)
displayText: u' File "NVDAObjects\__init
.pyo", line 706, in _get_presentationType File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get_ File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in getPropertyViaCache File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\MSHTML.pyo", line 793, in _get_states File "co' (truncated)
IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x820bd58 at 5d77260>
IAccessibleChildID: 0
IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=526682, objectID=-4, childID=0
IAccessible accName: None
IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_TEXT
IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_READONLY, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSED, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_VALID (1048644)
IAccessible accDescription: None
IAccessible accValue: u'INFO - __main
_ (18:13:48.677):\rStarting NVDA\rINFO - core.main (18:13:49.242):\rConfig dir: C:\Users\Sarah\AppData\Roaming\nvda\rINFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (18:13:49.242):\rLoading config: C:\Users\Sarah\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini\rINFO -' (truncated)

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Re: Accessable antivirus program #addonrelease

Quentin Christensen
 

I would chime in and say I also use Windows Defender on Windows 10.  A friend and I were talking about this topic on the weekend, and I went off to see what the wider world uses.  Here are three review sites I found (and have read previously) which offer their (recent / current) views on anti-virus for Windows 10.  More detailed analysis from each in the links, but I've included a one line summary for each as well:

Their recommendation: Windows Defender paired with Malware Bytes (according to that thread I noted the other day, Malware bytes should be accessible).

They give defender 3.5 / 5.  Their editor's choices, which both get 4.5 are Avast and Kaspersky.

Their recommendation Kaspersky Free Antivirus is our top choice, but Bitdefender Antivirus Free and Avast Free Antivirus aren't far behind

I know someone mentioned Malware Bytes in the thread.  Has anyone used Avast, Kaspersky or Bitdefender lately and noted where accessibility is at with those please?

Regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 11:52 AM David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:

Yes, Windows Defender has worked much better for me for keeping my computer clean, and also, it is so accessible!

Windows Defender is the best anti-virus software I have used!

David Moore

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Friday, December 6, 2019 1:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Accessable antivirus program #addonrelease

 

Hi

I use Windows defender.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Oleksandr Gryshchenko
Sent: Thursday, December 5, 2019 3:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Accessable antivirus program #addonrelease

 

Hello friends!
Please advise a good antivirus for Windows with an accessible interface for screenreaders.
I'm currently using "Avast Internet Security", but it is completely inaccessible to NVDA.
Thank you for any advices!
Oleksandr, Ukraine

 



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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA 19.3RE: [nvda] Conference recordings?

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Sky,

Yes there will be a beta out very shortly.  Apologies for the seemingly slow movement on this.  It's been a big change both for us and for add-on developers and we wanted to make sure everything was working well and everyone was on board.  We will keep everyone informed.

Quentin

On Sat, Dec 7, 2019 at 7:38 AM Sky Mundell <skyt@...> wrote:

Hello Quentin. Sky here. When is NVDA 19.3 going to be in public beta so those of us can test it out before it comes to final release? I know you want to put it out when its stable, but since we’re in the month of December, do you think it might be in beta this month and then released before the year 2020? Thanks, Sky.



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Training and Support Manager


Shutting window in Winamp

Jarek.Krcmar
 

Good evening group,

I have found out a big problem in Winamp.

When I open Winamp and preferences and general abbreviations, then 8 times I press key tab, then I can't shut it's window, and I can't go any where.

I can only set abbreviations.

I wonder, what can I do for shut winamp
's window.

Could you please give me an advice?

Nvda is silent by pressing tab.


--
Jarek


Re: Add-on issues after system restore on Windows 10

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi Brian and list, Yes correct You need to go into %appdata% and delete the nvda folder in there, this is quite drastic, then You need to reboot Nvda, I should have said You need another screen reader like Narrator. then delete the nvda folder under %appdata%\nvda as I say it will wipe everything out and You will need to start again. but it will fix things.

On 06/12/2019 16:10, Brian Vogel wrote:
There is the unanswered question of what version of NVDA, as well as what versions of the Add-Ons, are present.
System Restore (which I personally dislike because it's both unreliable and incomplete) only rolls back your system registry and certain folders, but not all of them.  It is not, in any meaningful sense, a full restore but is, instead, a selective partial one. See the articles:
System Restore (What It Is and How to Use It)
<https://www.lifewire.com/what-is-system-restore-2626022>
What System Restore Can and Cannot Do to Your Windows
<https://www.maketecheasier.com/what-system-restore-can-and-cannot-do-to-your-windows-system/>
I am quite certain that NVDA add-ons are unlikely to be touched by System Restore as they are not installed using a method that System Restore tracks, so you could possibly have an "older" version of NVDA for which "newer" versions of the add-ons are incompatible.
I'm in agreement with Mr. Vonderlinden that an complete uninstall of NVDA, and all associated add-ons, and a reinstall of same is the thing that is most likely to rectify the situation the most easily.
--
Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363
Most of the change we think we see in life is due to truths being in and out of favor.
         ~ Robert Frost, /The Black Cottage/ (1914)


Re: Thunderbird search

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Thank you.  Cheers!

On 12/9/2019 12:55 AM, Governor staten wrote:

Control+shift+k. That will allow you to search inside whichever folder you are in.





On 12/8/2019 10:56 AM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:
Hi.  How do you make the search edit box on thunderbird appear? I can access the search tab, but the edit box for typing in search terms doesn't seem to show up.  Any help gratefully accepted. Cheers!





Re: a helpful tip for anyone using i cloud for windows with NVDA

Jimmy Vonderlinden
 

 O i meant when you do a windows m to go to the desktop , the reading stops. However, when you alt tab back to the window, you still have to OCR the window again.


Re: a helpful tip for anyone using i cloud for windows with NVDA

Gene
 

I’m not sure what you are describing.  You said you have to go to the desktop.  Then what happens when you return to the program.  First you talked about using OCR as a work around, which implies that you have to leave the window to stop speech.  What happens when you return to the window?  What do you mean bhy you don’t lose control of speech?  You must have a problem since you discuss using OCR as a workaround.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2019 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a helpful tip for anyone using i cloud for windows with NVDA
 
I meant to say it doesn't happen in windows 10, at least not the losing control of speech.


Re: a helpful tip for anyone using i cloud for windows with NVDA

Jimmy Vonderlinden
 

I meant to say it doesn't happen in windows 10, at least not the losing control of speech.


Re: a helpful tip for anyone using i cloud for windows with NVDA

Jimmy Vonderlinden
 

yes, it does happen in windows 7. used to experience it all the time Its no fun, especially when you can't stop speech, at least you can stop speech in 10 by simply doing a windows key m to go to the desktop and annoying. I'm so glad I have windows 10 and can use the workaround that I use


Re: a helpful tip for anyone using i cloud for windows with NVDA

Gene
 

Is this the same problem I’ve found with certain programs?  NVDA reads the full screen.  I was using theEmsisoft (spelling) emergency kit and it did this.  I had to use mhy JAWS demo.  It does so when using Virtual Recorder, at least the portable version as implemented by the late Carlos. 
 
I don’t know how many other programs this occurs in but it may be enough that it should be looked into.
 
When this happens, you can’t stop the reading.  Control does nothing and movement commands such as tabbing to switch fields doesn’t stop the reading.
 
I’m using Windows 7.  While I expect this would happen in Windows 10, that would need to be confirmed.
 
Gene
----- Original Message [-----
 

Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2019 11:58 AM
Subject: [nvda] a helpful tip for anyone using i cloud for windows with NVDA
 
hey guys. For anyone using i cloud for windows, you may have noticed that on the main screen that NVDA reads the entire window all at once when its displayed and it makes  it impossible to use. Well there is an easy workaround to this that I have found works great. This will only work under windows 10
When in the i cloud window, press the windows key and R at the same time to use recognition and OCR will make the window usable. Hope all find this helpful


Re: a helpful tip for anyone using i cloud for windows with NVDA

Jimmy Vonderlinden
 

oops my bad, I meant the NVDA motifier key and R at the same time! I just noticed that mistake. My brain was thinking faster than i could type


Re: thunderbird question

Sarah k Alawami
 

yep. I've had that issue for a year now and really do not knowh how to fix it. it is really driving me up the wall, as no one else on the tBird list seems othave the issues I'm having with lag.

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On 8 Dec 2019, at 8:39, Darren Tomblin wrote:

hi, is anyone else using thuhnderbird finding it sluggish with nda. it
seems like it takes a long time to move between fields and messages.
does anyone know how to fix this its getting a lttle annoying thanks

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73,
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a helpful tip for anyone using i cloud for windows with NVDA

Jimmy Vonderlinden
 

hey guys. For anyone using i cloud for windows, you may have noticed that on the main screen that NVDA reads the entire window all at once when its displayed and it makes  it impossible to use. Well there is an easy workaround to this that I have found works great. This will only work under windows 10
When in the i cloud window, press the windows key and R at the same time to use recognition and OCR will make the window usable. Hope all find this helpful


Re: thunderbird question

Gene
 

Also, are you a new user?  You said slow with NVDA but is that because you are using NVDA or is it that you have used Thunderbird with another screen-reader and it is faster.  I've seen specific complaints from some people that Thunderbird is slow opening messages on their systems.  Other people don't seem to have the problem.
 
I know that Thunderbird is very popular among blind users.  But Windows Live Mail, though it has a crashing problem on some systems, is a good alternative and you may want to try it.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2019 10:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] thunderbird question

Hi,


I'm using thunderbird. You could try disabling the global search.
Another reason thunderbird could be sluggish is because you might have a
lot of messages in your inbox. If too many messages in the inbox is the
case, you might want to organize them with creating new folders for your
list and create message filters. That's the only thing I can think of.


Rosemarie



On 12/8/2019 8:39 AM, Darren Tomblin wrote:
> hi, is anyone else using thuhnderbird finding it sluggish with nda. it
> seems like it takes a long time to move between fields and messages.
> does anyone know how to fix this its getting a lttle annoying thanks
>


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