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Re: NVDA does not read the context menu in the Edge browser

 

On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 08:19 PM, Blake Roberts wrote:
The advice applies equally to NVDA users. "When using Windows, there is usually more than one way to do something."
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Amen!!

And, as you've already pointed out, and I'm going to expound upon, there are also often multiple options as to what you're using.

When I got into "the blind tech biz" there was one, and only one, web browser that Freedom Scientific maintained screen reader compatibility with:  Internet Explorer.  In those days Firefox was on the ascendant and Chrome had not as yet really even entered the picture.  Time and circumstances forced Freedom Scientific, now Vispero, to expand JAWS accessibility support to other web browsers and, due to timing, Firefox and Chrome were the first few beneficiaries of that focus.  Since then, Chromium as the base code has "gone wild" and there are many other browsers than just the Google Chrome browser that are based on it.  These include, but are not limited to, Microsoft Edge, Brave, and Vivaldi (which, by the way, just introduced an e-mail client built in to the browser that is NOT webmail).  The beauty as far as accessibility goes is that Chromium is Chromium, so all of these browsers are screen reader accessible.

I have always told my students/clients who are learning a screen reader that they absolutely must have a secondary screen reader for use "in a pinch" when whatever your favorite screen reader happens to be cranky about playing with some particular thing.  If that person is a JAWS primary, I'd always recommend NVDA as the secondary, but the choice is yours, and Narrator is now a real choice as either a primary or secondary, and NVDA is, too.

The same principle applies to web browsers.  For who knows what reason(s) certain websites may not play well with a specific browser and/or a specific screen reader.  You need to be able to use more than one web browser.  If you happen to like any given one of the Chromium based browsers then working with any other is very largely a cinch.  Even moving over to Firefox in a pinch is not difficult, since the majority of commonly used commands/keyboard shortcuts, are identical.

You, the generic you, have no one but yourself to blame if you rigidly insist on single source for absolutely anything, and not just in the sphere of computing.  You have to have at least an option B, and preferably options C and D as well.  Something is guaranteed, at times, to go wrong with Option A.  When that happens it should not be more than a stumbling block, at worst, not an immovable object behind which you are stuck.  It is up to you to take the steps to develop other options (and at least basic skills with them, when that's necessary, and often it's not) for when you need them, because you will.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: NVDA does not read the context menu in the Edge browser

Blake Roberts <BEarlRoberts@...>
 

As I mentioned previously, I also experience the context-menu issue using the current version of Microsoft Edge. I reported the issue to Microsoft several days ago using help/send feedback in the browser.

Whether Microsoft fixes this issue or not, there is a simple solution to the context-menu problem which Mr. Sackrider and anyone else can implement immediately. I myself chose to stop using Microsoft Edge months ago for a different reason. I switched back to using Google Chrome browser, which I already installed on my computer years ago. Chromium-based Edge is similar to Google Chrome, though not identical. the context-menu functions correctly on my system when Google Chrome is used. If you don't want to download Google's browser, I would suggest trying Firefox. There may very well be other accessible web browsers useable with NVDA which I have not tried yet.

Regarding downloads: I have never used the context menu to access downloads. When I want to download a file, I press enter on it. To see download progress, I press alt+f for file then select downloads. In either chromium-based Edge or Google Chrome, the keyboard shortcut to access the downloads menu is control+j.

In summary: I'll quote the assistive technology trainer who taught me how to use JAWS years ago. The advice applies equally to NVDA users. "When using Windows, there is usually more than one way to do something."

Blake


Re: NVDA does not read the context menu in the Edge browser

 

By the way, I had a completely unrelated problem, but this afternoon I decided to run SFC followed by DISM in hopes of solving it, using these instructions:

Using SFC (System File Checker) and DISM (Deployment Imaging Servicing and Management) to Repair Windows 8 & 10

SFC found a corruption that it corrected.  DISM ran clean afterward.  I have since restarted my computer.

I just tried to replicate the issue in Edge with the context menu not reading, and now I cannot; it's reading just fine.  This could be a coincidence, or it could be that whatever it was that introduced this issue is also what introduced the corruption that SFC found and fixed.

Thus, I'd recommend doing an SFC and DISM pair, restarting, and checking again to see if that happens to fix the problem.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: NVDA does not read the context menu in the Edge browser

Gene
 

A problem has been reported on the list that, recently, the context menu doesn’t open properly so screen-readers can’t see it.  I’m not sure if it doesn’t open properly or for some reason, the screen-reader doesn’t move to it.  this seems to be a problem that has occurred more or less within the last week since it first was discussed about a week ago.  I don’t think it is understood whether this is a problem with Edge or with Windows 10 but it evidently is related to a recent update of something.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA does not read the context menu in the Edge browser
 

Very strange to me Jean.

I feel sure I always open the context menu by the usual method of shift f 10 or am I getting something wrong.

Exactly what is it you or others want to achieve.

It would be difficult for me to show what the context menu gives me in edge so I can only do my best to explain

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 23 June 2021 00:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA does not read the context menu in the Edge browser

 

The disability answer desk has nothing to do with Microsoft’s department that corrects problems with accessibility and works on accessibility in general.  they help blind people do things such as install programs or try to solve problems with programs.  the competence of the techs seems to vary widely, according to reports I’ve heard.  Support staff are never to be trusted implicitly.  I try to avoid dealing with support staff but when I have, with various companies, I find I am given incorrect information enough that I don’t believe anything that doesn’t sound correct to me without further investigation.

 

Microsoft does put a good deal of work into accessibility.  If you want to report this problem to the department that is responsible for accessibility, I would imagine someone can give you information about that.  But your general comments about Microsoft are just plain wrong. 

 

While I expect this problem to be corrected, it is not true that you need to use the context menu to download using the browser.  I almost never use it.  And there are some sites that you can’t download from using the context menu because of the way the sites work so you neede to know the other way.  If you want, I will explain the other method which is the far more generally used one.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 5:54 PM

Subject: [nvda] I don't think that microsoft wants to fixt the problem with the context menu in the edge brouser

 

I justgot a call back from the disability answer desk and the guy told
me to do a clean install of my windows or use the nvda redgistery tool. 
I told him that other peoplealso are having this problem so it's not
mywindows or my nvda it is on their end.  He kept on trying to get me to
do what he said but I told him that I will not do that.  If they don't
want to fix the problem that this just proves once and for all that
microsoft does not care one bit about accessability.  When they turn off
ie next year you will not be able to down load anything using their
brouser.  I hope that they are proud ofthemselves for not caring enough
to fix the problem of the context menu not reading in the edge brouser. 
We nownot to expect any real accessability from now on.  They are saying
it's your problem not ours.  When we call them to tell them of an
accessability issue we will be told thats our problem not ours.  I don't
have any respect for them at all.  If they would have told me that they
are awhear of the problem and they are working on a sulution that would
be a different story but that is not the case.  Thats your dumb
forigeners for you they are to bit and lazy and incompatent their
programers are a joke whear did they get their degree?  Out of a cracker
jack box.

Brian Sackrider





Re: NVDA does not read the context menu in the Edge browser

 

On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 07:45 PM, dennis huckle wrote:
I feel sure I always open the context menu by the usual method of shift f 10 or am I getting something wrong.
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Dennis,

You're getting a couple of things wrong here.  No one has claimed (except, perhaps at the outset, and reasonably since it cannot be seen) that the Context Menu in Edge cannot be opened with SHIFT+F10, because it can.

The issue is that, for some odd reason, in Edge, screen reader focus is not thrown into the context menu itself when you hit your first down arrow after having opened it with SHIFT+F10.  I can replicate that problem, and it was not always there.

And since Mr. Sackrider reports the same lack of focus is occurring when using Narrator, not just when using NVDA, it certainly appears to be a bug of some kind having crept into either Edge proper or something in Windows that's responsible for exposing the context menu that Edge has opened to the screen reader for traversal.  It's a regression bug of some sort, since the problem was absent in the past, and had been absent as far as I know from the introduction of Chromium-based Edge.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: NVDA does not read the context menu in the Edge browser

dennis huckle
 

Very strange to me Jean.

I feel sure I always open the context menu by the usual method of shift f 10 or am I getting something wrong.

Exactly what is it you or others want to achieve.

It would be difficult for me to show what the context menu gives me in edge so I can only do my best to explain

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 23 June 2021 00:41
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA does not read the context menu in the Edge browser

 

The disability answer desk has nothing to do with Microsoft’s department that corrects problems with accessibility and works on accessibility in general.  they help blind people do things such as install programs or try to solve problems with programs.  the competence of the techs seems to vary widely, according to reports I’ve heard.  Support staff are never to be trusted implicitly.  I try to avoid dealing with support staff but when I have, with various companies, I find I am given incorrect information enough that I don’t believe anything that doesn’t sound correct to me without further investigation.

 

Microsoft does put a good deal of work into accessibility.  If you want to report this problem to the department that is responsible for accessibility, I would imagine someone can give you information about that.  But your general comments about Microsoft are just plain wrong. 

 

While I expect this problem to be corrected, it is not true that you need to use the context menu to download using the browser.  I almost never use it.  And there are some sites that you can’t download from using the context menu because of the way the sites work so you neede to know the other way.  If you want, I will explain the other method which is the far more generally used one.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 5:54 PM

Subject: [nvda] I don't think that microsoft wants to fixt the problem with the context menu in the edge brouser

 

I justgot a call back from the disability answer desk and the guy told
me to do a clean install of my windows or use the nvda redgistery tool. 
I told him that other peoplealso are having this problem so it's not
mywindows or my nvda it is on their end.  He kept on trying to get me to
do what he said but I told him that I will not do that.  If they don't
want to fix the problem that this just proves once and for all that
microsoft does not care one bit about accessability.  When they turn off
ie next year you will not be able to down load anything using their
brouser.  I hope that they are proud ofthemselves for not caring enough
to fix the problem of the context menu not reading in the edge brouser. 
We nownot to expect any real accessability from now on.  They are saying
it's your problem not ours.  When we call them to tell them of an
accessability issue we will be told thats our problem not ours.  I don't
have any respect for them at all.  If they would have told me that they
are awhear of the problem and they are working on a sulution that would
be a different story but that is not the case.  Thats your dumb
forigeners for you they are to bit and lazy and incompatent their
programers are a joke whear did they get their degree?  Out of a cracker
jack box.

Brian Sackrider





Re: NVDA does not read the context menu in the Edge browser

Gene
 

The disability answer desk has nothing to do with Microsoft’s department that corrects problems with accessibility and works on accessibility in general.  they help blind people do things such as install programs or try to solve problems with programs.  the competence of the techs seems to vary widely, according to reports I’ve heard.  Support staff are never to be trusted implicitly.  I try to avoid dealing with support staff but when I have, with various companies, I find I am given incorrect information enough that I don’t believe anything that doesn’t sound correct to me without further investigation.
 
Microsoft does put a good deal of work into accessibility.  If you want to report this problem to the department that is responsible for accessibility, I would imagine someone can give you information about that.  But your general comments about Microsoft are just plain wrong. 
 
While I expect this problem to be corrected, it is not true that you need to use the context menu to download using the browser.  I almost never use it.  And there are some sites that you can’t download from using the context menu because of the way the sites work so you neede to know the other way.  If you want, I will explain the other method which is the far more generally used one.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2021 5:54 PM
Subject: [nvda] I don't think that microsoft wants to fixt the problem with the context menu in the edge brouser
 
I justgot a call back from the disability answer desk and the guy told
me to do a clean install of my windows or use the nvda redgistery tool. 
I told him that other peoplealso are having this problem so it's not
mywindows or my nvda it is on their end.  He kept on trying to get me to
do what he said but I told him that I will not do that.  If they don't
want to fix the problem that this just proves once and for all that
microsoft does not care one bit about accessability.  When they turn off
ie next year you will not be able to down load anything using their
brouser.  I hope that they are proud ofthemselves for not caring enough
to fix the problem of the context menu not reading in the edge brouser. 
We nownot to expect any real accessability from now on.  They are saying
it's your problem not ours.  When we call them to tell them of an
accessability issue we will be told thats our problem not ours.  I don't
have any respect for them at all.  If they would have told me that they
are awhear of the problem and they are working on a sulution that would
be a different story but that is not the case.  Thats your dumb
forigeners for you they are to bit and lazy and incompatent their
programers are a joke whear did they get their degree?  Out of a cracker
jack box.

Brian Sackrider






Re: NVDA does not read the context menu in the Edge browser

 

Brian,

You really, really need to get a more mature approach.

If a tech support person asks you to do something that's non-damaging, and running the COM Registration Fixing Tool is, and so is doing at least a repair install of Windows 10, then you do it.

Those of us who do this for a living cannot divine, out of thin air, why certain errors are occurring.  Those who are having them, and reporting them, have obligations toward assisting in the effort to get a solution.  I have said the following many times, and not just in the context of Microsoft, and it applies in spades here:

It is impossible to help individuals who will not listen to advice unless they like that advice. Being a good assistant is not about making the person assisted "feel good," but about both asking the right (and sometimes hard) questions as well as giving the information necessary to achieve the desired result. Getting help is a two-way street, and those asking for help have work they must do, too, when asked. They also need to be ready to let go of what they'd like to do, and instead do what's been asked for by the person offering assistance.

               Those receiving assistance are free to reject advice, you are also entitled to ask for clarification, but if you don’t want to do what your assistant is asking, then state that so that you can both can move along.  Assistants have every right to assist as they see fit, and those being assisted to either follow or reject the option(s) presented.  An assistant is within their rights to withdraw support at any time, for any reason.

It is inane, and willfully stupid, to make the statement that Microsoft has not shown an ever increasing commitment to accessibility.  Period, end of sentence.

And solutions to bugs such as this are often at the next patch Tuesday once the root cause has been determined, or the next release of Edge.  It's not, nor should it be expected to be, "in a few days, at most."  That's not how software development cycles work.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


NVDA does not read the context menu in the Edge browser

Brian Sackrider
 

I justgot a call back from the disability answer desk and the guy told me to do a clean install of my windows or use the nvda redgistery tool.  I told him that other peoplealso are having this problem so it's not mywindows or my nvda it is on their end.  He kept on trying to get me to do what he said but I told him that I will not do that.  If they don't want to fix the problem that this just proves once and for all that microsoft does not care one bit about accessability.  When they turn off ie next year you will not be able to down load anything using their brouser.  I hope that they are proud ofthemselves for not caring enough to fix the problem of the context menu not reading in the edge brouser.  We nownot to expect any real accessability from now on.  They are saying it's your problem not ours.  When we call them to tell them of an accessability issue we will be told thats our problem not ours.  I don't have any respect for them at all.  If they would have told me that they are awhear of the problem and they are working on a sulution that would be a different story but that is not the case.  Thats your dumb forigeners for you they are to bit and lazy and incompatent their programers are a joke whear did they get their degree?  Out of a cracker jack box.

Brian Sackrider


Re: Making NVDA say day, month name, year for dates formatted as DD/MM/YYYY

 
Edited

Dennis,

By the way, if you want to be very anal retentive about avoiding anything except a date formatted as DD/MM/YYYY or DD/MM/YY, where a leading zero could possibly be missing from the DD part, the regex would become:

(0?[1-9]|[12][0-9]|3[01])\/(ZZ)\/(\d{4}|\d{2})

and where the ZZ in the above would be 01 through 12, depending on the month it is you are trying specifically to recognize and snag.  All of the replacement strings given previously would work.

Further precision is possible for months that have less than 31 days where, if it weren't February, the 3[01], could be replaced with a straight 30 and for February, the "|3[01]" eliminated altogether and t
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: NVDA and the NLS reader.

Gerardo Corripio
 

I didn't have to install or do anything with mine. I connected it, and NVDA automatically recognized it. Oh and by the way, I'm an Overseas NLS member, thus the NLS Overseas library is one of those pilot-testing it as well.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

El 22 jun 2021, a la(s) 1:32 p.m., Michael Munn <michaelrbms@...> escribió:

Hi Ken, here is the braille braille driver that you need to select with in the NVDA braille settings. 
The driver's name is called nls EReader. 
I hope that helps. 
Best re gards 
Michael Munn 


Member: Virginia Association of Blind Students www.nfbv.org 
Student of: Hadley Institute for the Blind www.hadley.edu
 



On Jun 22, 2021, at 14:23, ken lawrence via groups.io <kenlawrence124@...> wrote:



Hi listers ken here.  I’m currently pilot testing the new NLS braille ereader made by humanware for the library of congress talking and braille book program here in the states.  The device can also connect via USB to a computer.  I already know how to connect it but I need to know how and what braille settings to use with NVDA since I have the current version I intend to take this baby for a test drive on the computer.  Have already done it with the iPhone.  And it looks like humanware has knocked one out of the park again. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: NVDA and the NLS reader.

Michael Munn
 

Hi Ken, here is the braille braille driver that you need to select with in the NVDA braille settings. 
The driver's name is called nls EReader. 
I hope that helps. 
Best re gards 
Michael Munn 


Member: Virginia Association of Blind Students www.nfbv.org 
Student of: Hadley Institute for the Blind www.hadley.edu
 



On Jun 22, 2021, at 14:23, ken lawrence via groups.io <kenlawrence124@...> wrote:



Hi listers ken here.  I’m currently pilot testing the new NLS braille ereader made by humanware for the library of congress talking and braille book program here in the states.  The device can also connect via USB to a computer.  I already know how to connect it but I need to know how and what braille settings to use with NVDA since I have the current version I intend to take this baby for a test drive on the computer.  Have already done it with the iPhone.  And it looks like humanware has knocked one out of the park again. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: NVDA and the NLS reader.

Devin Prater
 

It works better with NVDA than it does with the iPhone. Try turning on input help mode on the iPhone and press the Up or Down thumb key. Now, for NVDA, set the braille display to Automatic, and it should work. If not, change it to the one with NLS EReader in it.

On Jun 22, 2021, at 1:22 PM, ken lawrence via groups.io <kenlawrence124@...> wrote:

Hi listers ken here.  I’m currently pilot testing the new NLS braille ereader made by humanware for the library of congress talking and braille book program here in the states.  The device can also connect via USB to a computer.  I already know how to connect it but I need to know how and what braille settings to use with NVDA since I have the current version I intend to take this baby for a test drive on the computer.  Have already done it with the iPhone.  And it looks like humanware has knocked one out of the park again.  
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 


NVDA and the NLS reader.

ken lawrence
 

Hi listers ken here.  I’m currently pilot testing the new NLS braille ereader made by humanware for the library of congress talking and braille book program here in the states.  The device can also connect via USB to a computer.  I already know how to connect it but I need to know how and what braille settings to use with NVDA since I have the current version I intend to take this baby for a test drive on the computer.  Have already done it with the iPhone.  And it looks like humanware has knocked one out of the park again. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Making NVDA say day, month name, year for dates formatted as DD/MM/YYYY

dennis huckle
 

Many thanks.

I’ll take this all on board.

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 22 June 2021 18:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech dictionary

 

Dennis,

I am going to presume that all dates will have a format DD/MM/YYYY or possibly DD/MM/YY for the purposes of what follows.

First, here's the step-by-step tutorial for adding a regular expression type match to the NVDA default dictionary.  The same steps would apply to the voice or temporary dictionary, but you'd have to select the correct one of those at that step in the steps.  I will presume you want this for any voice and all the time, so the default dictionary is appropriate:
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Adding a Regular Expression match to the Default Dictionary

1. Hit NVDA+N,P,D,D   NVDA Main Menu, Preferences, Speech dictionaries, Default Dictionary

2. Hit ALT+A to activate the Add Button or navigate to it and activate it.

3. In the dialog that appears, paste or enter a regular expression in the Pattern edit box.

4. Paste or enter the replacement you want to hear in the Replacement edit box.  If you're using a capturing regular expression this may be a sequence of backslashes followed by the numbers of the capture groups you're using.

5. The comment edit box should either have a comment that helps you to remember the purpose of this dictionary entry, which is preferable, or be left blank.

6. Leave the Case Sensitive checkbox unchecked.

7. The Type radio button should be set to Regular Expression.

8. Activate the OK button

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Now, for the list of twelve regular expression patterns and their respective replacement strings (all of which start with backslash one, so when you get to that on the line that is where the replacement string begins).  All of the regular expression patterns start with a left parenthesis and end with a right curly brace followed by a right parenthesis:

([0123][0-9])\/(01)\/(\d{2,4})          \1 January \3

 

([0123][0-9])\/(02)\/(\d{2,4})          \1 February \3

 

([0123][0-9])\/(03)\/(\d{2,4})          \1 March \3

 

([0123][0-9])\/(04)\/(\d{2,4})          \1 April \3

 

([0123][0-9])\/(05)\/(\d{2,4})          \1 May \3

 

([0123][0-9])\/(06)\/(\d{2,4})          \1 June \3

 

([0123][0-9])\/(07)\/(\d{2,4})          \1 July \3

 

([0123][0-9])\/(08)\/(\d{2,4})          \1 August \3

 

([0123][0-9])\/(09)\/(\d{2,4})          \1 September \3

 

([0123][0-9])\/(10)\/(\d{2,4})          \1 October \3

 

([0123][0-9])\/(11)\/(\d{2,4})          \1 November \3

 

([0123][0-9])\/(12)\/(\d{2,4})          \1 December \3


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Try putting the one for June into your default dictionary then having NVDA read that email (or this one) from me to see how the date is pronounced afterward.
 
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Making NVDA say day, month name, year for dates formatted as DD/MM/YYYY

 

Dennis,

I am going to presume that all dates will have a format DD/MM/YYYY or possibly DD/MM/YY for the purposes of what follows.

First, here's the step-by-step tutorial for adding a regular expression type match to the NVDA default dictionary.  The same steps would apply to the voice or temporary dictionary, but you'd have to select the correct one of those at that step in the steps.  I will presume you want this for any voice and all the time, so the default dictionary is appropriate:
----
Adding a Regular Expression match to the Default Dictionary
1. Hit NVDA+N,P,D,D   NVDA Main Menu, Preferences, Speech dictionaries, Default Dictionary
2. Hit ALT+A to activate the Add Button or navigate to it and activate it.
3. In the dialog that appears, paste or enter a regular expression in the Pattern edit box.
4. Paste or enter the replacement you want to hear in the Replacement edit box.  If you're using a capturing regular expression this may be a sequence of backslashes followed by the numbers of the capture groups you're using.
5. The comment edit box should either have a comment that helps you to remember the purpose of this dictionary entry, which is preferable, or be left blank.
6. Leave the Case Sensitive checkbox unchecked.
7. The Type radio button should be set to Regular Expression.
8. Activate the OK button
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Now, for the list of twelve regular expression patterns and their respective replacement strings (all of which start with backslash one, so when you get to that on the line that is where the replacement string begins).  All of the regular expression patterns start with a left parenthesis and end with a right curly brace followed by a right parenthesis:

([0123][0-9])\/(01)\/(\d{2,4})          \1 January \3
 
([0123][0-9])\/(02)\/(\d{2,4})          \1 February \3
 
([0123][0-9])\/(03)\/(\d{2,4})          \1 March \3
 
([0123][0-9])\/(04)\/(\d{2,4})          \1 April \3
 
([0123][0-9])\/(05)\/(\d{2,4})          \1 May \3
 
([0123][0-9])\/(06)\/(\d{2,4})          \1 June \3
 
([0123][0-9])\/(07)\/(\d{2,4})          \1 July \3
 
([0123][0-9])\/(08)\/(\d{2,4})          \1 August \3
 
([0123][0-9])\/(09)\/(\d{2,4})          \1 September \3
 
([0123][0-9])\/(10)\/(\d{2,4})          \1 October \3
 
([0123][0-9])\/(11)\/(\d{2,4})          \1 November \3
 
([0123][0-9])\/(12)\/(\d{2,4})          \1 December \3

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Try putting the one for June into your default dictionary then having NVDA read that email (or this one) from me to see how the date is pronounced afterward.
 
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Making NVDA say day, month name, year for dates formatted as DD/MM/YYYY

dennis huckle
 

Hello Brian,

Hear is the date as presented in your e-mail

Tue 22/06/2021

Hope that’s what you need.

As I am in the uk I use day/month/year

Kind regards,

Dennis huckle.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 22 June 2021 17:33
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speech dictionary

 

Dennis,

Please copy and paste the exact date format out of a couple of e-mail messages that are all being read numerically and I can help you with that using regular expressions for the match and the replacement using the day and year but with the month written out between the two.

Typically there are hyphens, e.g., 22-06-2021, or some other separator, often a forward slash or dot, between those date elements.  If those are not present, then we'd need to determine what always precedes and/or comes after the date that uses spaces as its separators.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Making NVDA say day, month name, year for dates formatted as DD/MM/YYYY

 

Dennis,

Please copy and paste the exact date format out of a couple of e-mail messages that are all being read numerically and I can help you with that using regular expressions for the match and the replacement using the day and year but with the month written out between the two.

Typically there are hyphens, e.g., 22-06-2021, or some other separator, often a forward slash or dot, between those date elements.  If those are not present, then we'd need to determine what always precedes and/or comes after the date that uses spaces as its separators.
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Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Making NVDA say day, month name, year for dates formatted as DD/MM/YYYY

dennis huckle
 

Hello,

For an example.

If in an e-mail the date is spoken numerically, how can I get the date to say

22 june 2021 instead of 22 06 2021.

Just to learn more about nvda.

 


Synth Development - How do you add a new language to NVDA?

Sheri Byrne-Haber
 

Moderator's Note I'm granting a dispensation on this question because there may be members who can direct the questioner to the correct resources, and I have no idea what those are.  This is definitely not an NVDA question, or synth compatibility with NVDA question, but one about creating a synth for a specific language that does not as yet have one.  That's definitely out of scope for this group.  If anyone knows of the correct contacts for this kind of development, please feel free to share that information.  But any deep delves into actual synth development really should take place elsewhere.
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Yesterday was National Indigenous Peoples Day 2021 in Canada

David Berman commented on LinkedIn that there are no Canadian Indigenous languages available in screen readers, which made me sad.

The most commonly spoken indigenous language in the province I am from is Mi'kmaq.  While I do not speak Mi'kmaq, I've always been interested in learning.  More importantly, I do have access to some native speakers as I have a cousin who teaches at a school where Mi'kmaq is commonly spoken.

Is there a cookbook somewhere on how to do this?  Is anyone interested in volunteering to help?

Thanks,
Sheri
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Accessibility Architect
VMware
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