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Is there a way to get NVDA to skipp to the most recent result when typing into a combo box that filters

Khalid Anwar
 

So at work, I have to use a system whereby you type into the box and as you do, different results pop-up based on what you’ve entered.however, when I do this, NVDA will read out all the results but what I really want is for it to read the most recent result that pops up or the one that most fits with what I’ve written.
is there a way to do this.
 


locked Re: [Locked] Acapela Group Infovox4 Device to Go Out of Support in July 2022

 

Well I have noticed with the australian voice on vocaliser that some
american accents like the odd stray letter or word is emulated.
Its not often but enough that I notice.
The older realspeak never had this issue.
Though I may contact acapella to see what exactly then want to do with
indevidual users, I'd personally like sapi voices but it seems nural
cloud subscriptions seem to be the rage.
Sadly its all about the mobile baby which means us users on the big
traditional boxes of microsoft goodness may be out of luck but I may
try.

On 14/06/2021, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
As I read it, and other pages, it affects nothing but the Infovox4.

See pages:
Voices for NVDA screen reader (
https://www.acapela-group.com/solutions/acapela-tts-voice-for-nvda/ )
and the page you go to on that screen if you activate the Discover Acapela
TTS voice for NVDA ( http://www.acapela-nvda.com/ ) control.

It seems to me they're dumping support for a specific piece of hardware, the
InfoVox4, and that's it.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.
The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression,
which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the
clearest indicator of who you are.

~ Brian Vogel






Re: Nvda error, how to solved it?

 

On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 07:07 PM, Ján Kulik wrote:
I had to remove the addons folder in NVDA and install those add-ons that are compatible with NVDA 2021.1, while in beta for me.
-
It would really have helped had you given "the full picture."

It has been stated, repeatedly and often over the last several weeks, that the 2021.1 beta should only have add-ons used with it that have been explicitly noted as being compatible with 2021.1.  There has even been a link posted on multiple occasions to a page where the compatibility of the various add-ons with 2021.1 is being tracked.

This is a "backward compatibility" breaking release, and has been known to be such since before the first beta was released.

And if anyone is not identifying the release of NVDA that they're using, the default presumption here is that it's the current production release, which would be 2020.4.  But even that should be noted right now, as during transition periods it's really critical to know what versions of everything are involved.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Re: Nvda error, how to solved it?

Ján Kulik
 

So, I guess I solved the problem. I had to remove the addons folder in NVDA and install those add-ons that are compatible with NVDA 2021.1, while in beta for me.


Re: Nvda error, how to solved it?

 

My guess, and that's all it is, is probably nothing.

Connection timeouts are not at all uncommon.  Anything that has to "reach out to cyberspace" to get something will, on occasion, encounter a connection timeout.

I would only be concerned with this if it is a persistent error and it's happening when you are certain you have an internet connection active.  If you don't have an internet connection active, any URL open type connection is going to timeout.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


Nvda error, how to solved it?

Ján Kulik
 

Hello.

I came across the following error.
 
ERROR - external: updater.ExtensionUpdater.run (23: 34: 37.518) - Thread-1 (2544):
Failed to retrieve update list: <urlopen error timed out>
Traceback (most recent call last):
   File "urllib \ request.pyc", line 1350, in do_open
   File "http \ client.pyc", line 1277, in request
   File "http \ client.pyc", line 1323, in _send_request
   File "http \ client.pyc", line 1272, in endheaders
   File "http \ client.pyc", line 1032, in _send_output
   File "http \ client.pyc", line 972, in send
   File "http \ client.pyc", line 944, in connect
   File "socket.pyc", line 728, in create_connection
   File "socket.pyc", line 716, in create_connection
socket.timeout: timed out
 
What should I do with it?


locked Re: [Locked] Acapela Group Infovox4 Device to Go Out of Support in July 2022

 

As I read it, and other pages, it affects nothing but the Infovox4.

See pages:
Voices for NVDA screen reader
and the page you go to on that screen if you activate the Discover Acapela TTS voice for NVDA control.

It seems to me they're dumping support for a specific piece of hardware, the InfoVox4, and that's it.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


locked Re: [Locked] Acapela Group Infovox4 Device to Go Out of Support in July 2022

David Goldfield
 

Also, if I’m interpreting their announcement correctly this does not affect the NVDA addon containing the Acapela voices. I am assuming that InfoVox4 is a SAPI compliant version of these voices?

 

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive emails regarding news and events in the blindness assistive technology field.

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www.DavidGoldfield.org

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 5:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022

 

I'd also like to point out that the paragraph announcing end of support explicitly states, "The product will remain fully operational and available as long as Windows OS allows it."

I have very little doubt that it will remain fully operational for some time to come after they cease official support.  And if it's something not in constant contact with cyberspace to support its operation, it should be perfectly OK to use it as long as you can use it.  End of support does not mean end of functional life for a given end user.  I, for instance, used Microsoft Photo Editor for years after it went out of support because it had the best and simplest way to create transparency based on the match to a given pixel color you clicked on.  I'd love to have it, still, if only for that function.  And since it required no connection to cyberspace to work, I had no fear in using it.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


locked Re: [Locked] Acapela Group Infovox4 Device to Go Out of Support in July 2022

 

I'd also like to point out that the paragraph announcing end of support explicitly states, "The product will remain fully operational and available as long as Windows OS allows it."

I have very little doubt that it will remain fully operational for some time to come after they cease official support.  And if it's something not in constant contact with cyberspace to support its operation, it should be perfectly OK to use it as long as you can use it.  End of support does not mean end of functional life for a given end user.  I, for instance, used Microsoft Photo Editor for years after it went out of support because it had the best and simplest way to create transparency based on the match to a given pixel color you clicked on.  I'd love to have it, still, if only for that function.  And since it required no connection to cyberspace to work, I had no fear in using it.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


locked Re: [Locked] Acapela Group Infovox4 Device to Go Out of Support in July 2022

 

David,

The Acapela page for the Infovox4 contains the announcement about midway down the page.  Search for, "Announcing the end of support beginning July 2022"
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


locked Re: [Locked] Acapela Group Infovox4 Device to Go Out of Support in July 2022

David Goldfield
 

Shaun,

May we please have a source link containing this announcement regarding Infovox losing support by next year?

 

 

David Goldfield,

Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist

JAWS Certified, 2019

Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive emails regarding news and events in the blindness assistive technology field.

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www.DavidGoldfield.org

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 6:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022

 

To be honest I have the sapi vocaliser and eloquence.

I use both for gaming but I'd never use either for standard speech.

Compaired to the cracked realspeak ones there are all sorts of pronounciation issues with the code factory ones.

The only reasons I went to the legal ones to be honest is.

1.  64 bit support and its stickability with windows settings and not have to muck about with control panels all over the place, and.

2.  the fact that to install them in 64 bit I had to get a hacked installer to install the hacked datafiles to then do as above.

I am a little disapointed there are not many more packs.

I would prefer not using nvda addons because sapi means no incompatability and no restriction.

However for performance which includes website and emails espeak while its non human, crappy and robotic as all heck is at least fast performance wize and loaded internally.

99.9% of the daily tasks are not games, or books and don't need the voice to be good, they just have to be read.

I don't need the voice to sound high quality, I just need the voice to sound clear enough to read or type.

Espeak ng is clear and doesn't sound bad at all.

Saying that microsoft voices for all thhat are ok, there even is an hack somewhere that gets me to run cortana voice as a sapi synth.

That means well it could all be fine.

I looked at cereproc and while yeah it sounds all nice, I want not just 1 voice, but all x language voices.

Ie all novelty voices,+ all english voices of all countries.

While I don't mind paying the 10 bucks for the 6 or so novelty voices, I object to the 30-40 bucks per standard voice.

The only thing I may buy are the neospeech sapi voices released by maxiaids and produced by irty.

I'd like the rest from readspeaker but guess what, to use them as sapi and buy all the voices even on subscription is so far out of my price range I may as well pay for bionic eyes!

Case in point bar the orpheus voices which I brought because they just cost 40 bucks just to say I own them all, we don't have many voices to chose from in actual fact.

At one point we had inoetic but guess what, in flight sims and a few other things they just don't pan out right.

At any rate inoetics is no more and I guess their regserver is also busted to, and that was 80 bucks wasted.

I don't mind what I have but If code factory voices are all we have as a pack its a little abismal.

I mean give me a break, in the early times sure but now well.

No ivona because now part of amazon, and acapella is going cloud.

What's left.

Festival, pico and flite.

Except flite sounds really bad and anyway there hasn't been a release of festvox anything since 2014.

So yeah I think if this is what comercial stuff is now for spaciffics and not really for users as such not unless you want 1 voice or 2, then maybe we need to make our own voices and forget things.

I still have espeak but espeak ng does have sapi voices about to download, not sure if there is an editer for espeak ng, but maybe I should learn it.

I have the time, in fact I may just do so.

Due to covid, I have been holding on to a lot more cash than usual, usually I get 1 or so upgrades a year but with shipping and the fact I have enough drives, flash, standard and an off sight backup I suddenly have just about everything I want except the really expensive out of reach stuff, and now with acapella doing what its done even that is out of the loop.

I have ehough sets, there is 1 other thing I'd really like but thats about it.

Maybe I may buy all the sereproc voices one day but really.

 

 

On 13/06/2021 5:57 pm, Fawaz Abdul rahman wrote:

Hi,

In addition to that, acapella add-on really slow and sometimes buggy, we can’t speed it up to 150 as I can with sapi voices from the config file.

And vocalizer voices, finding a working demo is quite hard, you download from 2-3 places and all not compatible with nvda above 2019.3, then you find one with eloquence which is also buggy.

For foreign language users, such as Arabic, finding a suitable voice without using a cracked version is quite difficult. And the situation hasn’t improved yet.

Good luck.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 5:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022

 

Hi.

 

Subject says it all.

 

I was mucking about looking at what extras I could buy for the system I

have and found that infovox4 which a few of us have managed to afford is

going out of support sometime next year.

 

Due to changes in markets and sales, acapella is dropping this product.

 

More likely in my opinion they can't keep up with all the new windows

updates, with windows 11 coming out later on who knows.

 

Up shot of this is that the only massive voice pack apart from orpheus

you can get is sadly the codefactory voices.

 

You can buy the acapella voices for nvda but I really want more sapi

voices and I want to be able to buy big packages instead of by the voice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


locked Re: [Locked] Acapela Group Infovox4 Device to Go Out of Support in July 2022

 
Edited

On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 08:12 AM, Gene wrote:
I would urge people to get demos of these products and form your own conclusions.
-
I absolutely agree.  What one person considers "the highest quality" another may consider dross, and vice versa.  When it comes to synthesizers and voices it's very difficult to generalize from your own personal preferences to those of others you don't know very well.

And now, for a moderator's note (and not aimed at you, Gene, but at these topics in general):  The "which synthesizer is best" topics are not NVDA-related.  They just aren't.  Asking what synths and/or voices and from whom work with NVDA is, but these endless spin cycles about "what I [for some random I] like best" are absolutely not.  These topics belong on the Chat Subgroup, not here.  Even extended discussion of the synths and voices themselves is not NVDA related.

The announcement of something going out of support on a specified date that is currently compatible with NVDA is not a problem.  But any long reminiscences about the thing going out of support, were such to happen, needs to happen on the Chat Subgroup, not here.
--

Brian - Windows 10, 64-Bit, Version 21H1, Build 19043  

I do not understand why some seek to separate a person from their actions.  The self is composed of an individual’s thoughts, actions, and expression, which are contained in and actuated by the body.  What you do and say is the clearest indicator of who you are.

      ~ Brian Vogel

 


locked Re: [Locked] Acapela Group Infovox4 Device to Go Out of Support in July 2022

Richard Wells
 

Hi Ru: will Tiflotecnia older 5.5 be made compatible as well for those of us who have purchased it? I need it for Thumb drive usage.

On 6/13/2021 9:08 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:

Hi!


Vocalizer Expressive from Tiflotecnia is already compatible with NVDA 2021.1.

Driver at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/65nyehmf785d2r1/vocalizer_expressive_driver_3.1.5_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 06:57 de 13/06/2021, Fawaz Abdul rahman escreveu:

Hi,

In addition to that, acapella add-on really slow and sometimes buggy, we can’t speed it up to 150 as I can with sapi voices from the config file.

And vocalizer voices, finding a working demo is quite hard, you download from 2-3 places and all not compatible with nvda above 2019.3, then you find one with eloquence which is also buggy.

For foreign language users, such as Arabic, finding a suitable voice without using a cracked version is quite difficult. And the situation hasn’t improved yet.

Good luck.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 5:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022

 

Hi.

 

Subject says it all.

 

I was mucking about looking at what extras I could buy for the system I

have and found that infovox4 which a few of us have managed to afford is

going out of support sometime next year.

 

Due to changes in markets and sales, acapella is dropping this product.

 

More likely in my opinion they can't keep up with all the new windows

updates, with windows 11 coming out later on who knows.

 

Up shot of this is that the only massive voice pack apart from orpheus

you can get is sadly the codefactory voices.

 

You can buy the acapella voices for nvda but I really want more sapi

voices and I want to be able to buy big packages instead of by the voice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


locked Re: [Locked] Acapela Group Infovox4 Device to Go Out of Support in July 2022

Gene
 

Why do you say its better? 
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022
 

Sapi Five eloquence is way better than the add-on. But then again these choices are available for English or other few languages. But when come to Arabic for instance, the choices are really limited.

And other issues such as auto switching, speed, quality etc.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022

 

I would urge people to get demos of these products and form your own conclusions.  I’m not sure just what is being compared with what.  I can say that concerning Eloquence, I have seen no pronunciation problems regarding Eloquence in the legal versions.  I don’t like nor use the other synthesizers being discussed but I did use The SAPI version of Eloquence as a demo and the add-on that contains Eloquence and another synthesizer.  I didn’t use the add-on much.  But, since the SAPI 5 Eloquence was fine, I don’t expect pronunciation problems with the add-on Eloquence. 

 

I don’t recall who makes the add-on and the SAPI 5 versions. 

 

Another thing not discussed is whether the dialects used are the same.  The Brittish Eloquence is poor.  It sounds like someone who isn’t Brittish trying to imitate a Brittish acdcent.  The American dialect is as it should be.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 5:57 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022

 

To be honest I have the sapi vocaliser and eloquence.

I use both for gaming but I'd never use either for standard speech.

Compaired to the cracked realspeak ones there are all sorts of pronounciation issues with the code factory ones.

The only reasons I went to the legal ones to be honest is.

1.  64 bit support and its stickability with windows settings and not have to muck about with control panels all over the place, and.

2.  the fact that to install them in 64 bit I had to get a hacked installer to install the hacked datafiles to then do as above.

I am a little disapointed there are not many more packs.

I would prefer not using nvda addons because sapi means no incompatability and no restriction.

However for performance which includes website and emails espeak while its non human, crappy and robotic as all heck is at least fast performance wize and loaded internally.

99.9% of the daily tasks are not games, or books and don't need the voice to be good, they just have to be read.

I don't need the voice to sound high quality, I just need the voice to sound clear enough to read or type.

Espeak ng is clear and doesn't sound bad at all.

Saying that microsoft voices for all thhat are ok, there even is an hack somewhere that gets me to run cortana voice as a sapi synth.

That means well it could all be fine.

I looked at cereproc and while yeah it sounds all nice, I want not just 1 voice, but all x language voices.

Ie all novelty voices,+ all english voices of all countries.

While I don't mind paying the 10 bucks for the 6 or so novelty voices, I object to the 30-40 bucks per standard voice.

The only thing I may buy are the neospeech sapi voices released by maxiaids and produced by irty.

I'd like the rest from readspeaker but guess what, to use them as sapi and buy all the voices even on subscription is so far out of my price range I may as well pay for bionic eyes!

Case in point bar the orpheus voices which I brought because they just cost 40 bucks just to say I own them all, we don't have many voices to chose from in actual fact.

At one point we had inoetic but guess what, in flight sims and a few other things they just don't pan out right.

At any rate inoetics is no more and I guess their regserver is also busted to, and that was 80 bucks wasted.

I don't mind what I have but If code factory voices are all we have as a pack its a little abismal.

I mean give me a break, in the early times sure but now well.

No ivona because now part of amazon, and acapella is going cloud.

What's left.

Festival, pico and flite.

Except flite sounds really bad and anyway there hasn't been a release of festvox anything since 2014.

So yeah I think if this is what comercial stuff is now for spaciffics and not really for users as such not unless you want 1 voice or 2, then maybe we need to make our own voices and forget things.

I still have espeak but espeak ng does have sapi voices about to download, not sure if there is an editer for espeak ng, but maybe I should learn it.

I have the time, in fact I may just do so.

Due to covid, I have been holding on to a lot more cash than usual, usually I get 1 or so upgrades a year but with shipping and the fact I have enough drives, flash, standard and an off sight backup I suddenly have just about everything I want except the really expensive out of reach stuff, and now with acapella doing what its done even that is out of the loop.

I have ehough sets, there is 1 other thing I'd really like but thats about it.

Maybe I may buy all the sereproc voices one day but really.

 

 

On 13/06/2021 5:57 pm, Fawaz Abdul rahman wrote:

Hi,

In addition to that, acapella add-on really slow and sometimes buggy, we can’t speed it up to 150 as I can with sapi voices from the config file.

And vocalizer voices, finding a working demo is quite hard, you download from 2-3 places and all not compatible with nvda above 2019.3, then you find one with eloquence which is also buggy.

For foreign language users, such as Arabic, finding a suitable voice without using a cracked version is quite difficult. And the situation hasn’t improved yet.

Good luck.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 5:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022

 

Hi.

 

Subject says it all.

 

I was mucking about looking at what extras I could buy for the system I

have and found that infovox4 which a few of us have managed to afford is

going out of support sometime next year.

 

Due to changes in markets and sales, acapella is dropping this product.

 

More likely in my opinion they can't keep up with all the new windows

updates, with windows 11 coming out later on who knows.

 

Up shot of this is that the only massive voice pack apart from orpheus

you can get is sadly the codefactory voices.

 

You can buy the acapella voices for nvda but I really want more sapi

voices and I want to be able to buy big packages instead of by the voice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


locked Re: [Locked] Acapela Group Infovox4 Device to Go Out of Support in July 2022

Fawaz Abdul rahman
 

Sapi Five eloquence is way better than the add-on. But then again these choices are available for English or other few languages. But when come to Arabic for instance, the choices are really limited.

And other issues such as auto switching, speed, quality etc.

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 3:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022

 

I would urge people to get demos of these products and form your own conclusions.  I’m not sure just what is being compared with what.  I can say that concerning Eloquence, I have seen no pronunciation problems regarding Eloquence in the legal versions.  I don’t like nor use the other synthesizers being discussed but I did use The SAPI version of Eloquence as a demo and the add-on that contains Eloquence and another synthesizer.  I didn’t use the add-on much.  But, since the SAPI 5 Eloquence was fine, I don’t expect pronunciation problems with the add-on Eloquence. 

 

I don’t recall who makes the add-on and the SAPI 5 versions. 

 

Another thing not discussed is whether the dialects used are the same.  The Brittish Eloquence is poor.  It sounds like someone who isn’t Brittish trying to imitate a Brittish acdcent.  The American dialect is as it should be.

 

Gene

-----Original Message-----

Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 5:57 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022

 

To be honest I have the sapi vocaliser and eloquence.

I use both for gaming but I'd never use either for standard speech.

Compaired to the cracked realspeak ones there are all sorts of pronounciation issues with the code factory ones.

The only reasons I went to the legal ones to be honest is.

1.  64 bit support and its stickability with windows settings and not have to muck about with control panels all over the place, and.

2.  the fact that to install them in 64 bit I had to get a hacked installer to install the hacked datafiles to then do as above.

I am a little disapointed there are not many more packs.

I would prefer not using nvda addons because sapi means no incompatability and no restriction.

However for performance which includes website and emails espeak while its non human, crappy and robotic as all heck is at least fast performance wize and loaded internally.

99.9% of the daily tasks are not games, or books and don't need the voice to be good, they just have to be read.

I don't need the voice to sound high quality, I just need the voice to sound clear enough to read or type.

Espeak ng is clear and doesn't sound bad at all.

Saying that microsoft voices for all thhat are ok, there even is an hack somewhere that gets me to run cortana voice as a sapi synth.

That means well it could all be fine.

I looked at cereproc and while yeah it sounds all nice, I want not just 1 voice, but all x language voices.

Ie all novelty voices,+ all english voices of all countries.

While I don't mind paying the 10 bucks for the 6 or so novelty voices, I object to the 30-40 bucks per standard voice.

The only thing I may buy are the neospeech sapi voices released by maxiaids and produced by irty.

I'd like the rest from readspeaker but guess what, to use them as sapi and buy all the voices even on subscription is so far out of my price range I may as well pay for bionic eyes!

Case in point bar the orpheus voices which I brought because they just cost 40 bucks just to say I own them all, we don't have many voices to chose from in actual fact.

At one point we had inoetic but guess what, in flight sims and a few other things they just don't pan out right.

At any rate inoetics is no more and I guess their regserver is also busted to, and that was 80 bucks wasted.

I don't mind what I have but If code factory voices are all we have as a pack its a little abismal.

I mean give me a break, in the early times sure but now well.

No ivona because now part of amazon, and acapella is going cloud.

What's left.

Festival, pico and flite.

Except flite sounds really bad and anyway there hasn't been a release of festvox anything since 2014.

So yeah I think if this is what comercial stuff is now for spaciffics and not really for users as such not unless you want 1 voice or 2, then maybe we need to make our own voices and forget things.

I still have espeak but espeak ng does have sapi voices about to download, not sure if there is an editer for espeak ng, but maybe I should learn it.

I have the time, in fact I may just do so.

Due to covid, I have been holding on to a lot more cash than usual, usually I get 1 or so upgrades a year but with shipping and the fact I have enough drives, flash, standard and an off sight backup I suddenly have just about everything I want except the really expensive out of reach stuff, and now with acapella doing what its done even that is out of the loop.

I have ehough sets, there is 1 other thing I'd really like but thats about it.

Maybe I may buy all the sereproc voices one day but really.

 

 

On 13/06/2021 5:57 pm, Fawaz Abdul rahman wrote:

Hi,

In addition to that, acapella add-on really slow and sometimes buggy, we can’t speed it up to 150 as I can with sapi voices from the config file.

And vocalizer voices, finding a working demo is quite hard, you download from 2-3 places and all not compatible with nvda above 2019.3, then you find one with eloquence which is also buggy.

For foreign language users, such as Arabic, finding a suitable voice without using a cracked version is quite difficult. And the situation hasn’t improved yet.

Good luck.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 5:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022

 

Hi.

 

Subject says it all.

 

I was mucking about looking at what extras I could buy for the system I

have and found that infovox4 which a few of us have managed to afford is

going out of support sometime next year.

 

Due to changes in markets and sales, acapella is dropping this product.

 

More likely in my opinion they can't keep up with all the new windows

updates, with windows 11 coming out later on who knows.

 

Up shot of this is that the only massive voice pack apart from orpheus

you can get is sadly the codefactory voices.

 

You can buy the acapella voices for nvda but I really want more sapi

voices and I want to be able to buy big packages instead of by the voice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


locked Re: [Locked] Acapela Group Infovox4 Device to Go Out of Support in July 2022

Rui Fontes
 

Hi!


Vocalizer Expressive from Tiflotecnia is already compatible with NVDA 2021.1.

Driver at:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/65nyehmf785d2r1/vocalizer_expressive_driver_3.1.5_Gen.nvda-addon?dl=1


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 06:57 de 13/06/2021, Fawaz Abdul rahman escreveu:

Hi,

In addition to that, acapella add-on really slow and sometimes buggy, we can’t speed it up to 150 as I can with sapi voices from the config file.

And vocalizer voices, finding a working demo is quite hard, you download from 2-3 places and all not compatible with nvda above 2019.3, then you find one with eloquence which is also buggy.

For foreign language users, such as Arabic, finding a suitable voice without using a cracked version is quite difficult. And the situation hasn’t improved yet.

Good luck.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 5:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022

 

Hi.

 

Subject says it all.

 

I was mucking about looking at what extras I could buy for the system I

have and found that infovox4 which a few of us have managed to afford is

going out of support sometime next year.

 

Due to changes in markets and sales, acapella is dropping this product.

 

More likely in my opinion they can't keep up with all the new windows

updates, with windows 11 coming out later on who knows.

 

Up shot of this is that the only massive voice pack apart from orpheus

you can get is sadly the codefactory voices.

 

You can buy the acapella voices for nvda but I really want more sapi

voices and I want to be able to buy big packages instead of by the voice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


locked Re: [Locked] Acapela Group Infovox4 Device to Go Out of Support in July 2022

Gene
 

I would urge people to get demos of these products and form your own conclusions.  I’m not sure just what is being compared with what.  I can say that concerning Eloquence, I have seen no pronunciation problems regarding Eloquence in the legal versions.  I don’t like nor use the other synthesizers being discussed but I did use The SAPI version of Eloquence as a demo and the add-on that contains Eloquence and another synthesizer.  I didn’t use the add-on much.  But, since the SAPI 5 Eloquence was fine, I don’t expect pronunciation problems with the add-on Eloquence. 
 
I don’t recall who makes the add-on and the SAPI 5 versions. 
 
Another thing not discussed is whether the dialects used are the same.  The Brittish Eloquence is poor.  It sounds like someone who isn’t Brittish trying to imitate a Brittish acdcent.  The American dialect is as it should be.
 
Gene

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 5:57 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022
 

To be honest I have the sapi vocaliser and eloquence.

I use both for gaming but I'd never use either for standard speech.

Compaired to the cracked realspeak ones there are all sorts of pronounciation issues with the code factory ones.

The only reasons I went to the legal ones to be honest is.

1.  64 bit support and its stickability with windows settings and not have to muck about with control panels all over the place, and.

2.  the fact that to install them in 64 bit I had to get a hacked installer to install the hacked datafiles to then do as above.

I am a little disapointed there are not many more packs.

I would prefer not using nvda addons because sapi means no incompatability and no restriction.

However for performance which includes website and emails espeak while its non human, crappy and robotic as all heck is at least fast performance wize and loaded internally.

99.9% of the daily tasks are not games, or books and don't need the voice to be good, they just have to be read.

I don't need the voice to sound high quality, I just need the voice to sound clear enough to read or type.

Espeak ng is clear and doesn't sound bad at all.

Saying that microsoft voices for all thhat are ok, there even is an hack somewhere that gets me to run cortana voice as a sapi synth.

That means well it could all be fine.

I looked at cereproc and while yeah it sounds all nice, I want not just 1 voice, but all x language voices.

Ie all novelty voices,+ all english voices of all countries.

While I don't mind paying the 10 bucks for the 6 or so novelty voices, I object to the 30-40 bucks per standard voice.

The only thing I may buy are the neospeech sapi voices released by maxiaids and produced by irty.

I'd like the rest from readspeaker but guess what, to use them as sapi and buy all the voices even on subscription is so far out of my price range I may as well pay for bionic eyes!

Case in point bar the orpheus voices which I brought because they just cost 40 bucks just to say I own them all, we don't have many voices to chose from in actual fact.

At one point we had inoetic but guess what, in flight sims and a few other things they just don't pan out right.

At any rate inoetics is no more and I guess their regserver is also busted to, and that was 80 bucks wasted.

I don't mind what I have but If code factory voices are all we have as a pack its a little abismal.

I mean give me a break, in the early times sure but now well.

No ivona because now part of amazon, and acapella is going cloud.

What's left.

Festival, pico and flite.

Except flite sounds really bad and anyway there hasn't been a release of festvox anything since 2014.

So yeah I think if this is what comercial stuff is now for spaciffics and not really for users as such not unless you want 1 voice or 2, then maybe we need to make our own voices and forget things.

I still have espeak but espeak ng does have sapi voices about to download, not sure if there is an editer for espeak ng, but maybe I should learn it.

I have the time, in fact I may just do so.

Due to covid, I have been holding on to a lot more cash than usual, usually I get 1 or so upgrades a year but with shipping and the fact I have enough drives, flash, standard and an off sight backup I suddenly have just about everything I want except the really expensive out of reach stuff, and now with acapella doing what its done even that is out of the loop.

I have ehough sets, there is 1 other thing I'd really like but thats about it.

Maybe I may buy all the sereproc voices one day but really.

 

 

On 13/06/2021 5:57 pm, Fawaz Abdul rahman wrote:

Hi,

In addition to that, acapella add-on really slow and sometimes buggy, we can’t speed it up to 150 as I can with sapi voices from the config file.

And vocalizer voices, finding a working demo is quite hard, you download from 2-3 places and all not compatible with nvda above 2019.3, then you find one with eloquence which is also buggy.

For foreign language users, such as Arabic, finding a suitable voice without using a cracked version is quite difficult. And the situation hasn’t improved yet.

Good luck.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 5:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022

 

Hi.

 

Subject says it all.

 

I was mucking about looking at what extras I could buy for the system I

have and found that infovox4 which a few of us have managed to afford is

going out of support sometime next year.

 

Due to changes in markets and sales, acapella is dropping this product.

 

More likely in my opinion they can't keep up with all the new windows

updates, with windows 11 coming out later on who knows.

 

Up shot of this is that the only massive voice pack apart from orpheus

you can get is sadly the codefactory voices.

 

You can buy the acapella voices for nvda but I really want more sapi

voices and I want to be able to buy big packages instead of by the voice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


locked Re: [Locked] Acapela Group Infovox4 Device to Go Out of Support in July 2022

 

To be honest I have the sapi vocaliser and eloquence.

I use both for gaming but I'd never use either for standard speech.

Compaired to the cracked realspeak ones there are all sorts of pronounciation issues with the code factory ones.

The only reasons I went to the legal ones to be honest is.

1.  64 bit support and its stickability with windows settings and not have to muck about with control panels all over the place, and.

2.  the fact that to install them in 64 bit I had to get a hacked installer to install the hacked datafiles to then do as above.

I am a little disapointed there are not many more packs.

I would prefer not using nvda addons because sapi means no incompatability and no restriction.

However for performance which includes website and emails espeak while its non human, crappy and robotic as all heck is at least fast performance wize and loaded internally.

99.9% of the daily tasks are not games, or books and don't need the voice to be good, they just have to be read.

I don't need the voice to sound high quality, I just need the voice to sound clear enough to read or type.

Espeak ng is clear and doesn't sound bad at all.

Saying that microsoft voices for all thhat are ok, there even is an hack somewhere that gets me to run cortana voice as a sapi synth.

That means well it could all be fine.

I looked at cereproc and while yeah it sounds all nice, I want not just 1 voice, but all x language voices.

Ie all novelty voices,+ all english voices of all countries.

While I don't mind paying the 10 bucks for the 6 or so novelty voices, I object to the 30-40 bucks per standard voice.

The only thing I may buy are the neospeech sapi voices released by maxiaids and produced by irty.

I'd like the rest from readspeaker but guess what, to use them as sapi and buy all the voices even on subscription is so far out of my price range I may as well pay for bionic eyes!

Case in point bar the orpheus voices which I brought because they just cost 40 bucks just to say I own them all, we don't have many voices to chose from in actual fact.

At one point we had inoetic but guess what, in flight sims and a few other things they just don't pan out right.

At any rate inoetics is no more and I guess their regserver is also busted to, and that was 80 bucks wasted.

I don't mind what I have but If code factory voices are all we have as a pack its a little abismal.

I mean give me a break, in the early times sure but now well.

No ivona because now part of amazon, and acapella is going cloud.

What's left.

Festival, pico and flite.

Except flite sounds really bad and anyway there hasn't been a release of festvox anything since 2014.

So yeah I think if this is what comercial stuff is now for spaciffics and not really for users as such not unless you want 1 voice or 2, then maybe we need to make our own voices and forget things.

I still have espeak but espeak ng does have sapi voices about to download, not sure if there is an editer for espeak ng, but maybe I should learn it.

I have the time, in fact I may just do so.

Due to covid, I have been holding on to a lot more cash than usual, usually I get 1 or so upgrades a year but with shipping and the fact I have enough drives, flash, standard and an off sight backup I suddenly have just about everything I want except the really expensive out of reach stuff, and now with acapella doing what its done even that is out of the loop.

I have ehough sets, there is 1 other thing I'd really like but thats about it.

Maybe I may buy all the sereproc voices one day but really.



On 13/06/2021 5:57 pm, Fawaz Abdul rahman wrote:

Hi,

In addition to that, acapella add-on really slow and sometimes buggy, we can’t speed it up to 150 as I can with sapi voices from the config file.

And vocalizer voices, finding a working demo is quite hard, you download from 2-3 places and all not compatible with nvda above 2019.3, then you find one with eloquence which is also buggy.

For foreign language users, such as Arabic, finding a suitable voice without using a cracked version is quite difficult. And the situation hasn’t improved yet.

Good luck.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 5:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022

 

Hi.

 

Subject says it all.

 

I was mucking about looking at what extras I could buy for the system I

have and found that infovox4 which a few of us have managed to afford is

going out of support sometime next year.

 

Due to changes in markets and sales, acapella is dropping this product.

 

More likely in my opinion they can't keep up with all the new windows

updates, with windows 11 coming out later on who knows.

 

Up shot of this is that the only massive voice pack apart from orpheus

you can get is sadly the codefactory voices.

 

You can buy the acapella voices for nvda but I really want more sapi

voices and I want to be able to buy big packages instead of by the voice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Reading characters phonetically

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

In addition to what Luke described, pressing NumPad 5 3 times will spell out the current word, NumPad 8 3 times will spell out the current line, both phonetically.

Cheers

Chris

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Luke Davis
Sent: 13 June 2021 00:11
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading characters phonetically

               

Lexi wrote:

 

> Hello, is there a way to get NVDA to read characters phonetically? Such as, A: alpha, B: bravo, and so on?--

 

If your cursor is on the character, or the review cursor is, pressing the

numpad 2 key twice (desktop mode), will read the character phonetically.

 

If you want it to just read phonetically if you pause on a character while

using the arrow keys, like iOS Voiceover does in character mode, there is

an add-on for that, although I can't find it currently.

 

Luke

 

 

 

 

 


locked Re: [Locked] Acapela Group Infovox4 Device to Go Out of Support in July 2022

Fawaz Abdul rahman
 

Hi,

In addition to that, acapella add-on really slow and sometimes buggy, we can’t speed it up to 150 as I can with sapi voices from the config file.

And vocalizer voices, finding a working demo is quite hard, you download from 2-3 places and all not compatible with nvda above 2019.3, then you find one with eloquence which is also buggy.

For foreign language users, such as Arabic, finding a suitable voice without using a cracked version is quite difficult. And the situation hasn’t improved yet.

Good luck.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2021 5:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] acapella infovox4 to expire 2022

 

Hi.

 

Subject says it all.

 

I was mucking about looking at what extras I could buy for the system I

have and found that infovox4 which a few of us have managed to afford is

going out of support sometime next year.

 

Due to changes in markets and sales, acapella is dropping this product.

 

More likely in my opinion they can't keep up with all the new windows

updates, with windows 11 coming out later on who knows.

 

Up shot of this is that the only massive voice pack apart from orpheus

you can get is sadly the codefactory voices.

 

You can buy the acapella voices for nvda but I really want more sapi

voices and I want to be able to buy big packages instead of by the voice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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