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locked Re: Need key commands for gmail

Gene
 

Your subject line specifically mentions GMail.  Is that what you want help with or with Windows 10 and using NVDA with Windows 10 or all of those subjects.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Fred
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 7:28 AM
Subject: [nvda] Need key commands for gmail

Hi I am new to Windows ten and nvda.

Any help is appreciated.

I need to know where to start.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Drag and Drop with NVDA

Gene
 

There is an add-on for using the system tray in the way other screen-readers provide.  That is, a dialog.  Long before the system tray became accessible, screen-readers provided the dialog because the system tray itself wasn't accessible.  Most blind people who started using other screen-readers know that method and don't know the windows method.  NVDA both refuses to incorporate the system tray dialog, nor does whomever makes such decisions incorporate instructions for using the system tray without the dialog.
And at times, you can't work with a system tray icon properly without working with the system tray dialog so I consider this a necessary feature, not just a question of there being a Windows and a screen-reader way to do things.  Others have reported the same thing, that they have found instances where the system tray dialog is necessary to work with an icon.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Drag and Drop with NVDA

Gene,
Too bad the manual doesn't say more.  It should, just as it should describe the commands for using the system tray, since NVDA doesn't include a system tray dialog.
Oh wait. Is there any other way of using the systray besides pressing Win+B?
I know it's not on topic for what I asked but now you got me curious.

Now back to my question:
there are various things you need to know, for example, that when dragging and dropping files, both folders have to be and remain opened simultaneously.
But this is something that everyone should know, I guess. After all you are... well dragging from an open folder and dropping on another open folder :)

Anyway, I'm still a bit confused about this procedure. I hope I'll understand and learn it sooner or later.

Oh and as always, thanks for your help. I appreciate how you are always willing to help with questions on lists we are on, including this one.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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Choose a handful of Windows 10 keyboard shortcuts to learn. Spend a week incorporating the keyboard shortcut

into your regular typing and work flow. After you’ve mastered that group of 10 or 15 shortcuts, come back and find some more to learn. Within a few weeks

you’ll learn the most used shortcuts and master all of them over a couple of months.

 

Assuming you’re using a notebook computer, “Windows” below refers to the Windows logo key, usually somewhere left of the space key like the Lenovo keyboard

above. On some touch screen computers or tablets there’s a button near the display with a Windows logo on it, as is the case with the Surface Pro 3. It’s

just right of the display. This button does not work like the WINDOWS key on the keyboard.

 

windows 10 onscreen keyboard

 

Bring up the onscreen keyboard on touch screen tablets or laptops by clicking or tapping on the keyboard icon in the lower right corner near the time/date.

The onscreen keyboard includes a few keyboard layouts. One looks like a full keyboard on some devices. Get to it using the keyboard button on the onscreen

keyboard (see above) in the lower right. Tap on it to show the keyboard/input selector.

 

Finally, when you see a plus in the keyboard shortcuts below, don’t press the plus key on the keyboard. Instead WINDOWS+A means use the Windows key and

the A key only.

 

New Windows 10 Keyboard Shortcuts

 

The following Windows 10 keyboard shortcuts all use the Windows logo key as described above.

 

windows 10 action center

 

WINDOWS+A:  Opens the Action Center (see image above), which includes notifications and settings buttons like the Tablet Mode button, the brightness button

and the full Windows All Settings button.

 

WINDOWS+C:  Launches Cortana, which lets the user search for things on the computer and on the web. It also lets users tell Windows 10 what to do using

voice commands like “create an appointment.”

 

WINDOWS+S – Starts Search, which works inside the Cortana pop up window and searches the web or the computer. Search for a document, a place to eat or

the date of the Civil War.

 

WINDOWS+Tab:  Opens the Task viewer, which shows all running programs as smaller thumbnails. Tap or click on a thumbnail to switch to that program.

 

WINDOWS+Ctrl+D:  Adds a Virtual desktops, which gives users a way to organize open programs and quickly switch between them. I put my word processor on

one and some Bible software on another while I’m preparing my Sunday sermon as a pastor. A third can hold my web browser with one window open to Facebook,

one with Twitter open and a third with a ballgame streaming.

 

WINDOWS+Ctrl+Right arrow:  Shows the Virtual Desktop to the right of the current Virtual Desktop.

 

WINDOWS+Ctrl+Left arrow:  Shows the Virtual Desktop to the left of the current Virtual Desktop.

 

WINDOWS+Ctrl+F4:  Closes the Virtual Desktop and returns to the normal view if there’s only one extra desktop or shows the earlier Virtual Desktop if you’ve

set up more than one.

 

Often Used Windows 10 Keyboard Shortcuts

 

Below you’ll find the Windows 10 keyboard shortcuts that you’ll probably use the most. Most of these will seem familiar to many experienced Windows users.

 

Use copy, cut and paste to move or work with things like text or pictures. Copy leaves it there and copies it. Cut grabs it removing it from the spot it

used to sit. Paste takes cut or copied text or content and puts it in a new place. Start by selecting text or a photo/object. Then use the following:

 

list of 5 items

? Ctrl+C (or Ctrl+Insert):  Copy a selected item

? Ctrl+X:  Cut a selected item to paste it elsewhere

? Ctrl+V (or Shift+Insert):  Paste a copied or cut item

? Ctrl+A:  Select all items in an open document or in the current window

? Ctrl+D (or Delete):  delete a selected item

list end

 

Here’s a list of other often used shortcuts.

 

Ctrl+Z:  Undo the previous action.

 

Ctrl+R (or F5):  Refresh the active window.

 

Ctrl+Y:  Redo an action.

 

Alt+Tab:  Switch between open apps. Windows 10 will bring up a screen showing the open windows and cycle through them each time we use Alt+Tab.

 

Alt+Esc:  Cycle through items in the order in which the user opened them. It works like the previous shortcut, but doesn’t show the windows. It just switches.

 

function key on windows pc

 

Alt+F4:  Close the active item, or exit the active app. Be careful since many PC laptop keyboard put shortcuts on the function keys at the top row of the

keyboard. There’s usually a function key with Fn on it. If that’s true on your laptop, you’ll need to use the Fn+Alt+F4. The same is true of all Function

keyboard shortcuts on these computers.

 

WINDOWS+L:  Brings up the lock screen on the PC requiring the user to enter their password or PIN.

 

WINDOWS+D:  Switch back and forth between the Windows desktop and the current open application.

 

Alt+underlined letter:  Perform the command for that letter in programs like Microsoft Word, PowerPoint, Excel or other Windows programs that make use

of the feature.

 

Alt+Enter:  Display properties for the selected item, like a file in File Explorer.

 

Alt+Spacebar:  Open the shortcut menu for the active window. In a lot of programs it will bring up the menu with commands like Maximize, Minimize, Close

or Task Manager to open the Task Manager of Windows 10 from any Window.

 

Alt+Left arrow:  Go back if the program has a screen history, like in browsers or File Explorer.

 

Alt+Right arrow:  Go forward.

 

Alt+Page Up:  Jump up one screen.

 

Alt+Page Down:  Jump down one screen.

 

Alt+Tab:  Switch between open apps and keep the Alt key down and use the Arrow keys to skip over some windows in the cycle.

 

Ctrl+Alt+Tab:  Use the arrow keys to switch between all open apps.

 

alt plus tab shortcut key shows this

 

Windows 10 Settings Shortcuts

 

The following shortcuts work in the Windows Settings Screen.

 

Windows Settings Screen

 

WINDOWS+I:  Opens Windows Settings.

 

Backspace:  Go back to the settings home screen.

 

window settings search

 

This last shortcut isn’t really a shortcut key, but a time saver. On any screen in Settings with a search box, start typing on that page and the search will

automatically enter the text in the search box and list the settings with that text in the title of the setting. Above, I searched for “sync” and it listed

all settings with the word “sync” in them.

 

Microsoft Edge Keyboard Shortcuts

 

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The new Microsoft Edge browser runs faster than Internet Explorer. Once Microsoft releases the ability to add plug-ins or add-ons, like we could do in

Internet Explorer and Google Chrome, it will become far more useful.

 

We offer a list of useful keyboard shortcuts that make users of the new Edge more efficient while browsing.

 

microsoft edge browser

 

Ctrl+D:  Bookmark the site in the current tab.

 

Ctrl+I:  Open favorites window.

 

Ctrl+J:  Open the downloads window.

 

Ctrl+H:  Open the history window.

 

Ctrl+P:  Print the current page.

 

Ctrl+F:  Open the search function on the current page to find content quickly. Here’s a tip. Search for something and then hit the Ctrl+F and type it again

to find it on the page, if it’s a long page.

 

Alt+C:  Open Cortana, the voice activation tool new to Windows 10.

 

Ctrl+Shift+R:  Enter reading view, which removes the distracting ads and other content on the page.

 

F12:  Open F12 Developer Tools.

 

F7:  Turn on caret browsing for a tab in the browser. This lets users put a cursor in text by clicking it. Then treat the web page like a document. Use

arrow keys and selection keyboard shortcuts (see below in the section “Working with Text”).

 

clear browsing data

 

Ctrl+Shift+Delete:  Use to clear the browser cache. Opens the pane and lets users get rid of their browser history.

 

Ctrl+T:  Open a new browsing tab.

 

Ctrl+Shift+T:  Reopen the last tab you closed.

 

Ctrl+W or Ctrl+F4:  Close the current tab.

 

Ctrl+K:  Make a copy of the current tab and open it.

 

Ctrl+N:  Opens a new Edge window.

 

Ctrl+Shift+P:  Opens a new InPrivate Browsing window, which lets users browse without tracking their history and saving cookies from websites.

 

Ctrl+Tab:  Switch to the next open tab.

 

Ctrl+Shift+Tab:  Switch to the previous open tab.

 

edge browser with tabs open

 

Ctrl+1, 2, 3,…, 8:  When you have multiple tabs open count across the top from left to right and use the number to quickly jump to that tab.

 

Ctrl+9:  Switch to the last open tab no matter what number it is. For example, if I have 3 or 23 open tabs, this keyboard shortcut will jump to that last

tab.

 

Ctrl+PLUS – Zoom in 25% to make things look bigger.

 

Ctrl+MINUS – Zoom out 25% making things look smaller.

 

Ctrl+0:  Reset zoom level to the intended view.

 

Backspace or Alt+Left arrow:  Go back in the browser’s history.

 

Alt+Right arrow:  Go forward in the browser’s history.

 

F5 or Ctrl+R:  Refresh the current tab’s page to reload it.

 

Esc:  Stop loading the current page.

 

Ctrl+L or F4 or Alt+D:  Jump to the address bar to start typing a new search string or site address.

 

Ctrl+Shift+L:  Opens the address bar search in a new tab.

 

Ctrl+E:  Open the search typed into the address bar in the current tab.

 

Ctrl+Enter:  Tacks www. onto the beginning and .com onto the end of any text typed into the address bar.

 

Ctrl+click:  Opens the link clicked in a new tab.

 

Ctrl+Shift+click:  Opens a link in a new tab and then switches to that tab.

 

Alt+Shift+click:  Opens a link in a new Edge window.

 

Function Key Windows 10 Keyboard Shortcuts

 

The following work with the function keys on most PC keyboards. Again, remember that some computers force the user to use a Fn key to use the F-keys. If

that’s true for your computer, use the Fn key in addition to the keyboard shortcuts below.

 

F2:  Rename a selected item, like a file in Explorer.

 

F3:  Search for a file or folder in File Explorer.

 

F4:  Display the address bar list in File Explorer.

 

F5:  Refresh the active window in File Explorer or Microsoft Edge/Internet Explorer.

 

F6:  Cycle through screen elements in a window or on the desktop and File Explorer. This shortcut changes the selection or insertion point. For example,

in File Explorer it chooses a file, then a folder along the left, and finally the address bar above the list of files/folders.

 

F10:  Activates the menu bar or turns on the letter shortcuts (see the File Explorer image below) so the user can select the items with the letter or number

keys showing on the screen.

 

file explorer menu letters

 

Alt+F4:  Close the active item, or exit the active app.

 

Ctrl+F4:  Close the active document (in apps that are full-screen and allow you to have multiple documents open simultaneously).

 

Shift+F10:  Display the shortcut menu for the selected item.

 

Working with Text or Files in Windows 10 Using Arrow Keys

 

Ctrl+Right arrow:  Move the cursor to the beginning of the next word.

 

Ctrl+Left arrow:  Move the cursor to the beginning of the previous word.

 

Ctrl+Down arrow:  Move the cursor to the beginning of the next paragraph.

 

Ctrl+Up arrow:  Move the cursor to the beginning of the previous paragraph.

 

Ctrl+Shift with an arrow key:  Select a block of text.

 

Shift with any arrow key:  Select more than one item in a window or on the desktop, or select text within a document.

 

Other Useful Keyboard Shortcuts

 

Ctrl+arrow key (to move to an item)+Spacebar:  Select multiple items in a window or on the desktop. Use this to quickly select a group of files, pictures

or icons on the desktop.

 

Ctrl+Esc:  Open Start for those time when there’s no WINDOWS key on your keyboard.

 

task manager in windows 10

 

Ctrl+Shift+Esc:  Open Task Manager.

 

Ctrl+Shift:  Switch the keyboard layout when multiple keyboard layouts are available. This is great for people who use multiple languages with their PC.

 

Ctrl+Spacebar:  Turn the Chinese input method editor (IME) on or off.

 

Shift+Delete:  Delete the selected item without moving it to the Recycle Bin first.

 

Right arrow:  Open the next menu to the right, or open a submenu.

 

Left arrow:  Open the next menu to the left, or close a submenu.

 

Esc:  Stop or leave the current task.

 

Windows 10 Keyboard Shortcuts Using the Windows Key

 

The following use the WINDOWS key. See the list of brand new Windows 10 keyboard shortcuts above for a few more keyboard shortcuts that use the WINDOWS

key.

 

windows key

 

WINDOWS:  Opens or closes the Start menu in normal mode or the Start screen in tablet mode.

 

WINDOWS+B:  Puts the focus in the Taskbar notification area so that users can work with the icons in what they used to call the system tray using the Spacebar

to select and arrow keys to move between them.

 

WINDOWS+E:  Open File Explorer.

 

WINDOWS+G:  Open Game bar when a game is open.

 

WINDOWS+H:  Open the Share feature which comes in from the right side, like the charm from Windows 8.

 

WINDOWS+K:  Open the Connect quick action to connect to a wireless display.

 

WINDOWS+M:  Minimize all windows.

 

WINDOWS+O:  Lock device orientation so the screen won’t rotate anymore.

 

WINDOWS+P:  Choose a presentation display mode.

 

presentation mode selection using WINDOWS and B shortcut keys

 

WINDOWS+R:  Open the Run dialog box.

 

WINDOWS+T:  Cycle through apps on the taskbar. After using this key use the arrow keys to move between the pinned or running programs on the Taskbar.

 

WINDOWS+V:  Cycle through notifications.

 

WINDOWS+Shift+V:  Cycle through notifications in reverse order.

 

WINDOWS+X:  Open the Quick Link menu which you can also open by right clicking on the Windows button on the lower left corner. This includes shortcuts

to things like Control Panel, settings areas and the Run dialog box.

 

WINDOWS+Z:  Show the commands available in an app in full-screen mode.

 

WINDOWS+COMMA – Temporarily peek at the desktop until you release the WINDOWS key.

 

WINDOWS+Pause:  Display the System Properties dialog box. This one’s often not available on many modern keyboards.

 

WINDOWS+Ctrl+F:  Search for PCs (if you’re on a network).

 

WINDOWS+NUMBER – Open the desktop and start the app pinned to the taskbar in the position indicated by the number. If the app is already running, switch

to that app.

 

WINDOWS+Shift+NUMBER:  Open the desktop and start a new instance of the app pinned to the taskbar in the position indicated by the number.

 

WINDOWS+Ctrl+NUMBER – Open the desktop and switch to the last active window of the app pinned to the taskbar in the position indicated by the number.

 

WINDOWS+Alt+NUMBER – Open the desktop and open the Jump List for the app pinned to the taskbar in the position indicated by the number.

 

WINDOWS+Ctrl+Shift+NUMBER:  Open the desktop and open a new instance of the app at the given place on the taskbar as an administrator.

 

WINDOWS+Tab:  Open Task view.

 

WINDOWS+Ctrl+B:  Switch to the app that displayed a message in the notification area.

 

WINDOWS+Spacebar:  Switch input language and keyboard layout.

 

WINDOWS+Ctrl+Spacebar – Change to a previously selected input.

 

Windows 10 Window Management Shortcuts

 

The following will help users quickly manage windows in Windows 10. Move windows around the screen or quickly maximize and minimize windows.

 

windows management shortcuts

 

WINDOWS+Shift+M:  Restore minimized windows on the desktop.

 

WINDOWS+Up arrow:  Maximize the window.

 

WINDOWS+Down arrow:  Remove current app from screen or minimize the desktop window.

 

WINDOWS+Left arrow:   Maximize the app or desktop window to the left side of the screen.

 

WINDOWS+Right arrow:  Maximize the app or desktop window to the right side of the screen.

 

WINDOWS+Home:  Minimize all but the active desktop window (restores all windows on second stroke).

 

WINDOWS+Shift+Up arrow:  Stretch the desktop window to the top and bottom of the screen.

 

WINDOWS+Shift+Down arrow:  Restore/minimize active desktop windows vertically, maintaining width.

 

WINDOWS+Shift+Left arrow or Right arrow:  Move an app or window in the desktop from one monitor to another.

 

Accessibility Shortcuts

 

ease of access center

 

WINDOWS+U:  Open Ease of Access Center.

 

WINDOWS+Enter:  Open Narrator.

 

WINDOWS+forward slash (/):  Initiate IME reconversion.

 

WINDOWS+plus (+) or minus (-):  Zoom in or out using Magnifier.

 

WINDOWS+Esc:  Exit Magnifier.

 

File Explorer Keyboard Shortcuts

 

The Windows File Explorer lets users see their files on the computer. Use the following Windows 10 keyboard shortcuts to work with files smarter.

 

file explorer in Windows 10

 

Alt+D:  Select the address bar.

 

Ctrl+E or Ctrl+F – Select the search box.

 

Ctrl+N:  Open a new window.

 

Ctrl+W:  Close the current window.

 

Ctrl+mouse scroll wheel:  Cycles through the various views of files and folder sizes and list modes. Scroll the wheel while pressing the Ctrl button to

change between views.

 

Ctrl+Shift+E:  Show the subfolders inside a folder.

 

Ctrl+Shift+N:  Create a new folder.

 

Alt+P:  Shows the preview pane to see the contents of a file without opening it. Only works with certain file types like Office documents, images or videos.

Give it a try with your favorite file types.

 

Alt+Enter:  Open the Properties dialog box for the selected item.

 

Alt+Right arrow:  View the next folder. It cycles through the history of which folders you’ve viewed recently.

 

Alt+Up arrow:  Jump to the parent folder that contains a subfolder.

 

Alt+Left arrow:  View the previous folder. It cycles through the history of which folders you’ve viewed recently.

 

Backspace:  View the previous folder. It cycles through the history of which folders you’ve viewed recently.

 

Right arrow:  Display the current selection (if it’s collapsed), or select the first subfolder.

 

Left arrow:  Collapse the current selection (if it’s expanded), or select the folder that the folder was in.

 

End:  Display the bottom of the active window.

 

Home:  Display the top of the active window.

 

F11:  Maximize or minimize the active window.

 

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From: Fred
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 6:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Need key commands for gmail

 

Hi I am new to Windows ten and nvda.

Any help is appreciated.

I need to know where to start.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


locked Need key commands for gmail

Fred <kc9nnfch@...>
 

Hi I am new to Windows ten and nvda.

Any help is appreciated.

I need to know where to start.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Drag and Drop with NVDA

 

Gene,
Too bad the manual doesn't say more.  It should, just as it should describe the commands for using the system tray, since NVDA doesn't include a system tray dialog.
Oh wait. Is there any other way of using the systray besides pressing Win+B?
I know it's not on topic for what I asked but now you got me curious.

Now back to my question:
there are various things you need to know, for example, that when dragging and dropping files, both folders have to be and remain opened simultaneously.
But this is something that everyone should know, I guess. After all you are... well dragging from an open folder and dropping on another open folder :)

Anyway, I'm still a bit confused about this procedure. I hope I'll understand and learn it sooner or later.

Oh and as always, thanks for your help. I appreciate how you are always willing to help with questions on lists we are on, including this one.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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Re: Drag and Drop with NVDA

Gene
 

Too bad the manual doesn't say more.  It should, just as it should describe the commands for using the system tray, since NVDA doesn't include a system tray dialog.  When I asked about this, I was told instructions aren't given because this is a Windows procedure, not an NVDA procedure.  Talk about applying ideology to and absurd and detrimental manner.  Almost all blind people who have used the system tray before using NVDA have used the screen-reader provided dialog and have no idea what the commands are.  But the NVDA manual is so concerned with every bit of information being included or excluded by category rather than heed, that one paragraph can't be added to give the commands.
 
At any rate, there are various things you need to know, for example, that when dragging and dropping files, both folders have to be and remain opened simultaneously.  I tried copying and pasting a file using the method indicated and it didn't work.  It may have to do with how the opened folders are situated.  But in my very limited experience, drag and drop is something you do when you can't to a task in another way.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 5:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Drag and Drop with NVDA

From the NVDA manual:

Desktop: shift+numpadDivide

Laptop: NVDA+control+[

Locks the left mouse button down. Press again to release it. To drag the mouse, press this key to lock the left button down and then move the mouse either physically or use one of the other mouse routing commands

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Sonntag, 23. Juni 2019 10:57
To: NVDA List <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Drag and Drop with NVDA

 

Hi guys,
So, was wondering if this is possible at all using NVDA? I mean, drag and drop as far as I know is something that need to be done using the mouse.
From a blind perspective how it would be done if at all possible?

Thanks :)

Cheers,
Marcio

AKA Starboy

 

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Re: Drag and Drop with NVDA

Gene
 

I've almost never done it and it can't be done when in browse mode.  Whether it can when using an mouse, not the NVDA mouse commands when in browse mode is something I don't know but I'm discussing NVDA commands now.  I have done it so seldom that I'll wait to see if other people describe the procedure.  My impression is that, though it can be done at times, it is not pleasant to do and it may be limited in more contexts than just browse mode. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2019 3:56 AM
Subject: [nvda] Drag and Drop with NVDA

Hi guys,
So, was wondering if this is possible at all using NVDA? I mean, drag and drop as far as I know is something that need to be done using the mouse.
From a blind perspective how it would be done if at all possible?

Thanks :)

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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Re: Drag and Drop with NVDA

 

Ralf,
Wow so this is as simple as that. Thanks, I really didn't know.

Now suppose it: I'm on one of these sites where you can share files by dragging and dropping them.
How can I drag the files to the other window, in this case, where I should drop it?

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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Re: Drag and Drop with NVDA

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

From the NVDA manual:

Desktop: shift+numpadDivide

Laptop: NVDA+control+[

Locks the left mouse button down. Press again to release it. To drag the mouse, press this key to lock the left button down and then move the mouse either physically or use one of the other mouse routing commands

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Sonntag, 23. Juni 2019 10:57
To: NVDA List <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Drag and Drop with NVDA

 

Hi guys,
So, was wondering if this is possible at all using NVDA? I mean, drag and drop as far as I know is something that need to be done using the mouse.
From a blind perspective how it would be done if at all possible?

Thanks :)

Cheers,
Marcio

AKA Starboy

 

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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Drag and Drop with NVDA

 

Hi guys,
So, was wondering if this is possible at all using NVDA? I mean, drag and drop as far as I know is something that need to be done using the mouse.
From a blind perspective how it would be done if at all possible?

Thanks :)

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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Re: Somehow I missed this: NVDA reads Kindle books!

Hope Williamson <hopeisjoyful@...>
 

Yeah, because Amazon decided to allow you to use your own screen reader to read the books 2-3 years ago. It’s a nice feature sometimes. Although I still prefer the TTS on the Kindle for PC, which is also still available.


Re: OT. Asking regarding accessible python program compiler

Kerryn Gunness
 


thank u again bryan
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OT. Asking regarding accessible python program compiler

On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 05:02 PM, Kerryn Gunness wrote:
but do u no if there is an  accessible programming mailing list?
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=blind+programmers+mailing+list

The first two, plus many more if you keep reviewing the results.  This is why the following is in the group rules:  "Please consider using a web search first for questions that have almost certainly been asked frequently and for which myriad answers, often in the form of tutorials, already exist"

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Re: OT. Asking regarding accessible python program compiler

 

On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 05:02 PM, Kerryn Gunness wrote:
but do u no if there is an  accessible programming mailing list?
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=blind+programmers+mailing+list

The first two, plus many more if you keep reviewing the results.  This is why the following is in the group rules:  "Please consider using a web search first for questions that have almost certainly been asked frequently and for which myriad answers, often in the form of tutorials, already exist."

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Re: Somehow I missed this: NVDA reads Kindle books!

 

If anybody wants to read my kindle book with NVDA, LOL! Click below. Okay, all done with the self-promotion. :)


https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00W8HVC3M/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i0


Re: Somehow I missed this: NVDA reads Kindle books!

Sarah k Alawami
 

Well, next time I want to study for law via the power book I was reading on kindle in 2017 I'll know it will be more accessible, or at least more accessible by what ever time that is, or if I have to study somethingn for a job etc.

This is good good news, and it could only get better with nvda eh?

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On 22 Jun 2019, at 14:06, Danni wrote:

another site that offers discounted and often free books for kindle as well as other options is www.bookbub.com

----- Original Message ----- From: "Luke Davis" luke@...
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Somehow I missed this: NVDA reads Kindle books!

All Amazon apps are free, including Kindle, whether it is for PC, your phone, or something else.
The books, however, usually aren't free, although there are often promotions where you can get free or discounted Kindle books (http://ereaderiq.com, for example, will email you every day with some of these).

Luke


Re: Somehow I missed this: NVDA reads Kindle books!

Danni
 

another site that offers discounted and often free books for kindle as well as other options is www.bookbub.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Luke Davis" <luke@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 8:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Somehow I missed this: NVDA reads Kindle books!


All Amazon apps are free, including Kindle, whether it is for PC, your phone, or something else.
The books, however, usually aren't free, although there are often promotions where you can get free or discounted Kindle books (http://ereaderiq.com, for example, will email you every day with some of these).

Luke



Re: OT. Asking regarding accessible python program compiler

Kerryn Gunness
 


thanks bryan
but do u no if there is an  accessible programming mailing list?
by this i mean, to learn programming languages
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OT. Asking regarding accessible python program compiler

On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 04:08 PM, Kerryn Gunness wrote:
what is the chat sub group for programming?
The chat subgroup is for anything, anything at all, that is off topic for the main group.   It has been primarily focused on various technical discussions, but need not be so.

The current NVDA Group Welcome Message and the Monthly Reminder both contain the following two paragraphs.   If the question posed in the second one is asked and answered honestly, you know whether your topic belongs in the main NVDA group or on the chat subgroup:

The NVDA Group has a Chat Subgroup (see: https://nvda.groups.io/g/chat, Group Email Addresses section) that has as its purpose the asking of virtually any “off-topic” question about anything you can think of, including just socializing.  It should be used for exactly that purpose. Only those who are already members of the NVDA Group can subscribe to the Chat Subgroup.  The Chat Subgroup has generally had technically focused topics related to using specific program features.

Before choosing where to post, please ask yourself the question, “Is what I’m about to ask directly related to controlling or using NVDA, or whether a specific program is accessible with NVDA?”  If that can be answered, “Yes,” then post to the NVDA Group, and if the answer is, “No,” then the topic belongs in the NVDA Chat Subgroup.

I think it's pretty clear that questions about Python coding and how to use Notepad++ features are an obvious, "No," when the above question is posed and the advice given followed.

All it takes is asking that question, answering honestly, and posting accordingly.
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Re: NV Access' New video featured in this week's In-Process

Claire Potter <claire.potter99@...>
 

Hi Antony, I get that, but the Eloquence voice was used, and that's not free, you have to pay for it after your trial?

Claire Potter
Potter's place, where technology comes to life!
www.pottersplace.me.uk
NVDA Certified Expert 2019. 


On 22 Jun 2019, at 21:35, Antony Stone <antony.stone@...> wrote:

My guess would be that the video features only free components, and the
producers didn't want to lead people to expect something which turns out you
need to pay for after you've installed the free software and the free synths.


Antony.

On Saturday 22 June 2019 at 22:29:06, Claire Potter wrote:

Hi Quentin, I think the new vidoo is really informative, despite missing
showing real people talking about how it helps them. Just out of interest,
can I ask what drove the choice of voices used for the video? I was very
surprised when I noticed that the Vocalizer synth was completely missing,
as that is a really popular synth alongside Eloqueence. Claire Potter

On 19 Jun 2019, at 10:51, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi everyone,

We have a new video: "What is NVDA?".  News on the video and a link to
watch it, the call for topics for the upcoming NVDACon, and a detailed
walkthrough of creating an issue on the NV Access GitHub page, are all
in this week's In-Process:

https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-19th-june/

Regards

Quentin.

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Re: NV Access' New video featured in this week's In-Process

Antony Stone
 

My guess would be that the video features only free components, and the
producers didn't want to lead people to expect something which turns out you
need to pay for after you've installed the free software and the free synths.


Antony.

On Saturday 22 June 2019 at 22:29:06, Claire Potter wrote:

Hi Quentin, I think the new vidoo is really informative, despite missing
showing real people talking about how it helps them. Just out of interest,
can I ask what drove the choice of voices used for the video? I was very
surprised when I noticed that the Vocalizer synth was completely missing,
as that is a really popular synth alongside Eloqueence. Claire Potter
On 19 Jun 2019, at 10:51, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi everyone,

We have a new video: "What is NVDA?". News on the video and a link to
watch it, the call for topics for the upcoming NVDACon, and a detailed
walkthrough of creating an issue on the NV Access GitHub page, are all
in this week's In-Process:

https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-19th-june/

Regards

Quentin.
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"I think you mean an etymologist."
"No. It's a bug, not a feature."

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Re: NV Access' New video featured in this week's In-Process

Claire Potter <claire.potter99@...>
 

Hi Quentin, I think the new vidoo is really informative, despite missing showing real people talking about how it helps them. Just out of interest, can I ask what drove the choice of voices used for the video? I was very surprised when I noticed that the Vocalizer synth was completely missing, as that is a really popular synth alongside Eloqueence. 
Claire Potter
Potter's place, where technology comes to life!
www.pottersplace.me.uk
NVDA Certified Expert 2019. 


On 19 Jun 2019, at 10:51, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

Hi everyone,

We have a new video: "What is NVDA?".  News on the video and a link to watch it, the call for topics for the upcoming NVDACon, and a detailed walkthrough of creating an issue on the NV Access GitHub page, are all in this week's In-Process:


Regards

Quentin.
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