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Re: OT. Asking regarding accessible python program compiler

Antony Stone
 

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On Saturday 22 June 2019 at 22:08:20, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:

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Re: OT. Asking regarding accessible python program compiler

 

On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 04:08 PM, Kerryn Gunness wrote:
what is the chat sub group for programming?
The chat subgroup is for anything, anything at all, that is off topic for the main group.   It has been primarily focused on various technical discussions, but need not be so.

The current NVDA Group Welcome Message and the Monthly Reminder both contain the following two paragraphs.   If the question posed in the second one is asked and answered honestly, you know whether your topic belongs in the main NVDA group or on the chat subgroup:

The NVDA Group has a Chat Subgroup (see: https://nvda.groups.io/g/chat, Group Email Addresses section) that has as its purpose the asking of virtually any “off-topic” question about anything you can think of, including just socializing.  It should be used for exactly that purpose. Only those who are already members of the NVDA Group can subscribe to the Chat Subgroup.  The Chat Subgroup has generally had technically focused topics related to using specific program features.

Before choosing where to post, please ask yourself the question, “Is what I’m about to ask directly related to controlling or using NVDA, or whether a specific program is accessible with NVDA?”  If that can be answered, “Yes,” then post to the NVDA Group, and if the answer is, “No,” then the topic belongs in the NVDA Chat Subgroup.

I think it's pretty clear that questions about Python coding and how to use Notepad++ features are an obvious, "No," when the above question is posed and the advice given followed.

All it takes is asking that question, answering honestly, and posting accordingly.
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Re: OT. Asking regarding accessible python program compiler

Kerryn Gunness
 


what is the chat sub group for programming?
 

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Sent: Saturday, June 22, 2019 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OT. Asking regarding accessible python program compiler

On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 03:25 PM, farhan israk wrote:
How to run python code in notepad plus plus?
That is, without question, off-topic for this group.  It has nothing whatsoever to do with NVDA.  If you wish to have this conversation take it to the Chat Subgroup.
 
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Re: OT. Asking regarding accessible python program compiler

 

On Sat, Jun 22, 2019 at 03:25 PM, farhan israk wrote:
How to run python code in notepad plus plus?
That is, without question, off-topic for this group.  It has nothing whatsoever to do with NVDA.  If you wish to have this conversation take it to the Chat Subgroup.
 
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Re: OT. Asking regarding accessible python program compiler

farhan israk
 

How to run python code in notepad plus plus?


On Thu, 20 Jun 2019, 9:41 pm Narayan, <krishnashree1221@...> wrote:

Thanks to all. I got success to run python program in my computer. thanks once again.

On 6/19/2019 10:09 PM, farhan israk wrote:

Try microsoft visual studio code with python add-on by Microsoft.


On Wed, 19 Jun 2019, 9:32 pm Brian Vogel, <britechguy@...> wrote:
I can't help you with your question, but I do want to point out that it is not off-topic.  Questions regarding which programs/utilities/etc. are accessible using NVDA are definitely on-topic for this group.  The group description now reads, in part, "Questions about which programs are accessible using NVDA, NVDA add-ons, and configuring Braille displays for use with NVDA are also permitted."

If the discussion were about how to code in Python, what the structure of a JSON file is, or similar, that would be off-topic but would also be perfectly appropriate for the chat subgroup.

I hope that some of our members that are also Python coders will have some suggestions for you.
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Re: Somehow I missed this: NVDA reads Kindle books!

Kendra Schaber <kschaber@...>
 

Hi all! I was pointing out what is avalible with Kindle. I was not trying to stray off topic. Oops! 


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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of Luke Davis <luke@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 21:37
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Somehow I missed this: NVDA reads Kindle books!
 
We are getting a bit far afield from the topic of the list, I think, but I have
to point out two things here:

1. Kindle Unlimited can be less than $10 per month, if you buy a one or two year
subscription during the week of Prime Day (sometime in July); and
2. You can only get books that are in the Kindle Unlimited program--many aren't,
although many are.

Luke

On Sat, 22 Jun 2019, Kendra Schaber wrote:

> Hi all! There is also Kindle Unlimited where you can read any book at any time. Ok, you can only check out 10 books at a time, but there is no due date and
> no upper limit except for checking out up to 10 books at one time and it's 10 bucks per month. 




Re: Somehow I missed this: NVDA reads Kindle books!

Luke Davis
 

We are getting a bit far afield from the topic of the list, I think, but I have to point out two things here:

1. Kindle Unlimited can be less than $10 per month, if you buy a one or two year subscription during the week of Prime Day (sometime in July); and
2. You can only get books that are in the Kindle Unlimited program--many aren't, although many are.

Luke

On Sat, 22 Jun 2019, Kendra Schaber wrote:

Hi all! There is also Kindle Unlimited where you can read any book at any time. Ok, you can only check out 10 books at a time, but there is no due date and
no upper limit except for checking out up to 10 books at one time and it's 10 bucks per month.


Re: Somehow I missed this: NVDA reads Kindle books!

Kendra Schaber <kschaber@...>
 

Hi all! There is also Kindle Unlimited where you can read any book at any time. Ok, you can only check out 10 books at a time, but there is no due date and no upper limit except for checking out up to 10 books at one time and it's 10 bucks per month. 
 


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Thank you for reading this email! Also, please note that I have eighth grade spelling. I'm well known for my spelling mistakes. Ironicly, writing is one of my gifts.
Blessed be!
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Member of 350.ORG Salem,
Member of the National Federation of the Blind ofOregon, Capitol Chapter.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of Luke Davis <luke@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 20:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Somehow I missed this: NVDA reads Kindle books!
 
All Amazon apps are free, including Kindle, whether it is for PC, your phone, or
something else.
The books, however, usually aren't free, although there are often promotions
where you can get free or discounted Kindle books (http://ereaderiq.com, for
example, will email you every day with some of these).

Luke





Re: Somehow I missed this: NVDA reads Kindle books!

Luke Davis
 

All Amazon apps are free, including Kindle, whether it is for PC, your phone, or something else.
The books, however, usually aren't free, although there are often promotions where you can get free or discounted Kindle books (http://ereaderiq.com, for example, will email you every day with some of these).

Luke


Re: Somehow I missed this: NVDA reads Kindle books!

Adel Spence
 

is this app fre?

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Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 10:44 PM
Subject: [nvda] Somehow I missed this: NVDA reads Kindle books!


Hello all. I just wanted to write to say that only today I discovered
NVDA's ability to read Kindle books! :) I've been using NVDA for quite
a while now, as well as the Kindle app for PC, so I'm not sure how I
missed this, as it apparently started with version 2017.1. The only
thing I can think of is not using Kindle for some time. The last time
I used the Kindle app, I had the old version of it installed, you
know, the one where you had to get a special version with the
accessibility plugin added? Then I found out Amazon had a new version
of Kindle for PC that didn't require a special accessibility plugin.
Today I finally re-installed Kindle on my computer, and somehow I
discovered that NVDA could actually read the book, without my needing
to turn on the text to speech feature! This is way cool! :) Wondering
when this was added to NVDA, I looked it up and found this page:
https://www.nvaccess.org/kindle/

Thanks NV Access! I think now I'll be buying more Kindle books!


Re: Somehow I missed this: NVDA reads Kindle books!

Kendra Schaber <kschaber@...>
 

Hi all! I didn't know that Kindle was accessible with NVDA! I uke the Kindle app on my Iphone. I have never tried it on a PC laptop computer before. 
 


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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of Robert Kingett <kingettr@...>
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 19:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Somehow I missed this: NVDA reads Kindle books!
 

Here's the keyboard shortcuts page if anybody wants to look. I usually read with the IOS app because it has automatic Goodreads syncing, and I think the PC version does not, but I tried it 2 years ago and really liked it.


Re: Somehow I missed this: NVDA reads Kindle books!

 

Here's the keyboard shortcuts page if anybody wants to look. I usually read with the IOS app because it has automatic Goodreads syncing, and I think the PC version does not, but I tried it 2 years ago and really liked it.


Somehow I missed this: NVDA reads Kindle books!

Clarissa Mitchell
 

Hello all. I just wanted to write to say that only today I discovered
NVDA's ability to read Kindle books! :) I've been using NVDA for quite
a while now, as well as the Kindle app for PC, so I'm not sure how I
missed this, as it apparently started with version 2017.1. The only
thing I can think of is not using Kindle for some time. The last time
I used the Kindle app, I had the old version of it installed, you
know, the one where you had to get a special version with the
accessibility plugin added? Then I found out Amazon had a new version
of Kindle for PC that didn't require a special accessibility plugin.
Today I finally re-installed Kindle on my computer, and somehow I
discovered that NVDA could actually read the book, without my needing
to turn on the text to speech feature! This is way cool! :) Wondering
when this was added to NVDA, I looked it up and found this page:
https://www.nvaccess.org/kindle/

Thanks NV Access! I think now I'll be buying more Kindle books!


Re: screen curtain

Kerryn Gunness
 


thanks marcio
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, June 21, 2019 2:49 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] screen curtain

Kerryn,
how do you  asign keystroke mannually
From the userguide:

11.2.3. Input Gestures

In this dialog, you can customize the input gestures (keys on the keyboard, buttons on a braille display, etc.) for NVDA commands.
Only commands that are applicable immediately before the dialog is opened are shown. For example, if you want to customize commands related to browse mode, you should open the Input Gestures dialog while you are in browse mode.
The tree in this dialog lists all of the applicable NVDA commands grouped by category. You can filter them by entering one or more words from the command's name into the Filter by edit box in any order. Any gestures associated with a command are listed beneath the command.
To add an input gesture to a command, select the command and press the Add button. Then, perform the input gesture you wish to associate; e.g. press a key on the keyboard or a button on a braille display. Often, a gesture can be interpreted in more than one way. For example, if you pressed a key on the keyboard, you may wish it to be specific to the current keyboard layout (e.g. desktop or laptop) or you may wish it to apply for all layouts. In this case, a menu will appear allowing you to select the desired option.
To remove a gesture from a command, select the gesture and press the Remove button.
When you are finished making changes, press the OK button to save them or the Cancel button to discard them.

If you need more help with it please let me know :)

Cheers,
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Re: pdf to text add on

 

This add on is, by all appearances, "ancient" and the version noted on the page mentioned is 1.0.   It may work, or it may not.   The author's name is noted as well, so you could attempt to find them and make contact directly.

These days, if you have a recent (2013 or later) version of Microsoft Office, and you're looking to get plain text from a PDF, you can simply open it in MS-Word then do a save as in plain text.  You will, of course, lose any graphics and alt-text associated with same and a great deal of formatting.

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Re: NVDA WITH EDITPLUS

 

A general side note here.   If ever you wish to send a private e-mail message to the author of any Groups.io message, and you receive HTML formatted email (which is the default for Groups.io), then look for the link in the footer of every message you receive that reads, "Reply to Sender."

Activating that link should cause your e-mail client to open its compose window with the address of the sender of that message prepopulated in the To: field and the actual topic prepopulated in the Subject: field.  You can, of course, tweak the subject in any way you see fit before sending.

That is the easiest way to initiate off-list contact with a member should you wish to do so.
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Re: NVDA WITH EDITPLUS

Fred <kc9nnfch@...>
 

Hi Richard

I am not sure how to do this and am probably wrong.

the way I am trying.

I don’t know the key commands for gmail.

Please let me know how I should send my questions to this list.

 

I am new to Windows ten and NVDA.

I am sorry If I am doing this wrong.

My name is Fred, my email address is kc9fch@...

 

from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: 2019 6:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA WITH EDITPLUS

 

Hi,

 

As the originator of today’s exchange, I’d just like to add that, once I’ve worked out how to use GitHub easily, I’ll either update the existing issue or, if more relevant, create a new one!  However, I didn’t realise there was a potential problem with EditPlus itself since I’ve been using it regularly with JAWS for the past few years and it’s only when deciding to increase my use of NVDA that the issue came to light for me!

 

Also, just to add that I’ve now upgraded EditPlus from 4.3 to 5 and the problem persists.

 

Cheers

Richard Bartholomew

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 21 June 2019 12:22
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA WITH EDITPLUS

 

Have you also written to the developers of EditPlus?  These issues are often caused by the developers choosing to use non-standard controls, and if they can address the issues that choice causes, it can have benefits for not only NVDA users, but users of other screen readers and potentially other assistive technologies as well.

 

There was a thread on here a year ago (or a message and a reply at least).  That noted that the review cursor worked to navigate line by line.

 

There is also an issue on our GitHub issue tracker, and in that there is a request for someone to try a recent NVDA alpha build and report back as to whether it fixes the issue or not.

 

Finally, if you could please advise where you have left messages, as I can't find any message on any of the places I usually see requests for help.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 8:21 PM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:

Carlos wrote:

>     I have left numerous messages to NVDA developers about this very issue.

Where? Apparently not on Github, which I think is the only official way to do
that. I found only one issue about this, and it wasn't from you. Still though,
it does touch on Richard's problem.

You and he might want to either comment on this issue, or post a new one with
better detail than this one has.
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8461

Luke


 

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Re: NVDA WITH EDITPLUS

Luke Davis
 

On Fri, 21 Jun 2019, Carlos wrote:

    There should be a better way to comment on outstanding issues. GitHub looks rather complicated to just leave a simple comment on issues!
Most commercial software these days, requires you to go through some sort of web interface in order to submit a support ticket. In my experience, most of those support ticket systems are much more of a pain to use, and ask for a lot more personal information, than does Github.

Maybe because I'm used to things being much harder, I find github to be quite simple and straight forward to use. But that could just be me--we all have our own level of tolerance for these things.

In any case: think of Github as NVDA's support ticket system, and if you want higher level support than this list can give (such as modifying the software), Github is the best way to get it.

Luke


Re: NVDA WITH EDITPLUS

Richard Bartholomew
 

Hi,

 

I downloaded the snapshot and the problem still exists – I’ll update GITHub this afternoon.

 

Richard Bartholomew

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 21 June 2019 12:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA WITH EDITPLUS

 

Thanks for the update!

 

The last message in the issue suggests trying the most recent alpha, which you can download here: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/

 

 

 

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 9:31 PM Richard Bartholomew <rlbart53@...> wrote:

Hi,

 

As the originator of today’s exchange, I’d just like to add that, once I’ve worked out how to use GitHub easily, I’ll either update the existing issue or, if more relevant, create a new one!  However, I didn’t realise there was a potential problem with EditPlus itself since I’ve been using it regularly with JAWS for the past few years and it’s only when deciding to increase my use of NVDA that the issue came to light for me!

 

Also, just to add that I’ve now upgraded EditPlus from 4.3 to 5 and the problem persists.

 

Cheers

Richard Bartholomew

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 21 June 2019 12:22
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA WITH EDITPLUS

 

Have you also written to the developers of EditPlus?  These issues are often caused by the developers choosing to use non-standard controls, and if they can address the issues that choice causes, it can have benefits for not only NVDA users, but users of other screen readers and potentially other assistive technologies as well.

 

There was a thread on here a year ago (or a message and a reply at least).  That noted that the review cursor worked to navigate line by line.

 

There is also an issue on our GitHub issue tracker, and in that there is a request for someone to try a recent NVDA alpha build and report back as to whether it fixes the issue or not.

 

Finally, if you could please advise where you have left messages, as I can't find any message on any of the places I usually see requests for help.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 8:21 PM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:

Carlos wrote:

>     I have left numerous messages to NVDA developers about this very issue.

Where? Apparently not on Github, which I think is the only official way to do
that. I found only one issue about this, and it wasn't from you. Still though,
it does touch on Richard's problem.

You and he might want to either comment on this issue, or post a new one with
better detail than this one has.
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8461

Luke


 

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Re: NVDA WITH EDITPLUS

Carlos
 

Hello:

    Those messages were left a long time on nvda freelist which is now group io.

    There should be a better way to comment on outstanding issues. GitHub looks rather complicated to just leave a simple comment on issues!

    Thank You! For your prompt response!


On 6/21/2019 4:22 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Have you also written to the developers of EditPlus?  These issues are often caused by the developers choosing to use non-standard controls, and if they can address the issues that choice causes, it can have benefits for not only NVDA users, but users of other screen readers and potentially other assistive technologies as well.

There was a thread on here a year ago (or a message and a reply at least).  That noted that the review cursor worked to navigate line by line.

There is also an issue on our GitHub issue tracker, and in that there is a request for someone to try a recent NVDA alpha build and report back as to whether it fixes the issue or not.

Finally, if you could please advise where you have left messages, as I can't find any message on any of the places I usually see requests for help.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 8:21 PM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
Carlos wrote:

>     I have left numerous messages to NVDA developers about this very issue.

Where? Apparently not on Github, which I think is the only official way to do
that. I found only one issue about this, and it wasn't from you. Still though,
it does touch on Richard's problem.

You and he might want to either comment on this issue, or post a new one with
better detail than this one has.
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8461

Luke





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