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Re: web pages not refreshing

Quentin Christensen
 

Sorry folks, I haven't been ignoring those who have reported this to me directly.  We've had a few reports of this, and I can recreate it myself.  I hadn't yet created an issue, I was trying to investigate exactly what was going on with it.  In the meantime, someone else has created https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/10801 which seems as good a place as any to record any more info on this issue (feel free to comment on that issue if you can add any technical info, a log, etc).

Quentin.

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:48 PM Governor staten <govsta@...> wrote:

I've seen the same thing. I use Microsoft Edge here. It occurred with alphas of NVDA as well.





On 2/20/2020 3:27 PM, Don H wrote:
Running NVDA 2019.3.1 on a win 10 laptop using either Google Chrome or Microsoft Edge as my browser.
Running into more and more issues with web pages not being refreshed so that NVDA reads the new page after hitting enter on a link or other control.  Have to use the alt tab keys to get NVDA back on the new refreshed page.
Is this issue being addressed by the NVDA development team?
Thanks






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Re: Remote

Quentin Christensen
 

I can't answer the original question, but I definitely echo Brian's question - if there is one thing I could stop people saying it's "I'm using the latest (program XYZ)".  In the case of NVDA, the latest might be 2017.3 because you are using Windows XP, it might be 2019.3.1, or it might be NVDA alpha-19724,2c4caa62.  In the case of Windows or Office, it's even harder, as the latest version available TO YOU might be different to the latest version I can get - because of any number of random things like where we each are, which video card our PC has, or simply Microsoft not wanting to roll out something to everyone at once, so rolling it out to a random 10% of users, and one of us is in that group and one not.

Please, if you are reporting anything, to any software company, include the version number - that's why software has version numbers :)

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 10:18 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
What is "the latest remote"?

The actual latest, depending on the version of NVDA one is currently using, can be obtained from:  https://nvdaremote.com/download/
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Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 



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Re: 2019.3.1 Update- Help

Quentin Christensen
 

Re the mouse and Chrome, if you press NVDA+M is mouse tracking enabled?  (Note that toggles it, so you may need to press it twice to ensure it is "enabled".  It seems to be working for me, but if you have mouse tracking enabled and it isn't working for you on sites like Wikipedia or NVAccess.org, if you could send me a log at debug level to info@..., I can have a look.

Re Outlook, there are a couple of issues at https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues so if you could clarify what is happening, we can try to ascertain if it is one of those known issues (and if so where we're at investigating it) or something different.

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 9:49 AM Ryan Chin <ryan.chin@...> wrote:

Just updated to latest version.  I’m experiencing and issue on windows 10 where it will not read when I use my mouse in google chrome but works fine in Firefox.   Also, I’m experiencing an extended lag when working in Microsoft Outlook.  NVDA hangs cutting off the reader and sometimes crashes out outlook.

Any assistance would be welcomed.



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Re: loving the new NVDA update

Quentin Christensen
 

Thanks Jimmy!

All the best,

Quentin.

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 8:26 AM Jimmy Vonderlinden via Groups.Io <jimmyv1130=yahoo.com@groups.io> wrote:
 Just updated my NVDA to the latest version and I have to say i'm very impressed with it, especially with microsoft edge and the twitter website. Biggest change I have noticed is that quote tweet is no longer spelled out. It's a nice change. Hope all enjoy your day. 
Just wanted to point that out for those who havent noticed



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Re: changes in speech in NVDA 2019.3

Quentin Christensen
 

We did rewrite a lot of the speech code, although for now this shouldn't be an overly different experience, it was more to make future changes and maintenance easier.  Evidently you've found something that does work slightly differently.

Not sure about the first one, I'll have to learn GMails keyboard shortcuts more - but re editing words, I've written that up https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/10808

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:40 AM Giles Turnbull <giles.turnbull@...> wrote:
Hi all,

does anyone know whether there have been changes to the speech processing part of NVDA in the 2019.3 update? I didn't spot anything in the change log, but I experience a couple of things that are different from the 2019.2.1 version.

The first one is very minor ... when I tag an email in gmail so that it goes into an existing  folder, I press c to go to the combo box listing all folders, then I press a letter corresponding to the first letter of the folder name - such as f for my Facebook notifications. Once focus is on Facebook I tab over and activate the Go button, which applied the label to the email. Since 2019.3 the letter I pressed (in this case f) gets spoken when I tab over to the Go button; this did not happen before 2019.3.If I need to press the letter more than once to continue past Facebook to Farming and then to Fiction, NVDA now announces "fff" which is mildly annoying!

More of a problem is when I mistype words ... I regularly mistype because as becuase and words ending in tion as toin ... I suspect when I've done this and immediately select the word and retype it without presing space to move onto typing the next word. As a result the first mistyping doesn't get spoken straight away ... it gets spoken as I press space or punctuation ... and it merges the mistyped word in with the correct version, and they are seemlessly connected like they are one single word, becuasebecause ... the same happened in this post when I mistyped punctuation as puncutation and got "puncutationpunctuation" as a result.

The only irritation with this is that it makes it difficult to tell whether the subsequent attempts at spelling the word correctly has removed the typo or whether it is still mistyped.

I'm curious whether this is an intentional change and, if so, what the thinking behind it is.

Giles



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Re: web pages not refreshing

 

I've seen the same thing. I use Microsoft Edge here. It occurred with alphas of NVDA as well.





On 2/20/2020 3:27 PM, Don H wrote:
Running NVDA 2019.3.1 on a win 10 laptop using either Google Chrome or Microsoft Edge as my browser.
Running into more and more issues with web pages not being refreshed so that NVDA reads the new page after hitting enter on a link or other control.  Have to use the alt tab keys to get NVDA back on the new refreshed page.
Is this issue being addressed by the NVDA development team?
Thanks




installing the Alan voice

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,


How do I install the RH voice Alan to the other voices? It's in the add-ons list but I can't install it. I forgot how to add an extra voice.


Thanks for your help in advance.


Rosemarie

Re: NVDA 2019.3.1 Not saying selected and unselected

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi David,

Which synthesizer are you using?  This seems to work for me using OneCore or eSpeak NG.


On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:13 AM David Mackenzie <davemackenzie.york@...> wrote:
Hi,

With 19.3.1 and windows 10 (up-to-date) NVDA will not say selected or
unselected on highlighted files/folders/shortcuts when tapping the space
bar.  If I do a quick search using the first letter, the first instance
of a file/ folder/shortcut is selected, but not spoken by NVDA, I have
to arrow down then up to confirm selection.

All add-ons have been removed.  The situation is the same when loading
NVDA 19.3.1 onto a brand new computer.

Reinstalling 19.2.1 resolves the problem.

Any help is appreciated.  Is this a bug or will changing a setting
resolve this?

Thank you,

David Mackenzie










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Re: say cap for capital letter

Sascha Cowley
 

I'm not experiencing this with eSpeak NG. Have you tried using a different synth, just to see if the problem persists?

On 21/02/2020 11:31, Don H wrote:
Don't know if this a speech syn issue or a NVDA issue.
Under my speech settings I have say cap for capitals unchecked yet it is still saying cap when I type a capital letter.
So the question is is this a issue with the Vocalizer speech syn or a issue with NVDA?


Re: say cap for capital letter

Rui Fontes
 

As I told in other message, that is not a NVDA bug.

See in the CodeFactory Vocalizer Expressive configurations if they don't have a option to control that...


Vocalizer Expressive from us, Tiflotecnia, do not do that!


Best regards,

Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 00:31 de 21/02/2020, Don H escreveu:

Don't know if this a speech syn issue or a NVDA issue.
Under my speech settings I have say cap for capitals unchecked yet it is still saying cap when I type a capital letter.
So the question is is this a issue with the Vocalizer speech syn or a issue with NVDA?


say cap for capital letter

Don H
 

Don't know if this a speech syn issue or a NVDA issue.
Under my speech settings I have say cap for capitals unchecked yet it is still saying cap when I type a capital letter.
So the question is is this a issue with the Vocalizer speech syn or a issue with NVDA?

Re: Remote

 

What is "the latest remote"?

The actual latest, depending on the version of NVDA one is currently using, can be obtained from:  https://nvdaremote.com/download/
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Re: Remote

Rui Fontes
 

Some problem in your instalation...

I have both updated and I use frequently the remote access...


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 22:54 de 20/02/2020, Robert Doc Wright godfearer escreveu:

I just upgraded my sister's nvda to 2019.3.1 and the latest remote. When I try to use remote it immediately kicks me out when I enter on connect or option.
******
Something to think about, Since God has forgiven it, who are you to keep picking it back up!

Remote

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I just upgraded my sister's nvda to 2019.3.1 and the latest remote. When I try to use remote it immediately kicks me out when I enter on connect or option.
******
Something to think about, Since God has forgiven it, who are you to keep picking it back up!

2019.3.1 Update- Help

Ryan Chin
 

Just updated to latest version.  I’m experiencing and issue on windows 10 where it will not read when I use my mouse in google chrome but works fine in Firefox.   Also, I’m experiencing an extended lag when working in Microsoft Outlook.  NVDA hangs cutting off the reader and sometimes crashes out outlook.

Any assistance would be welcomed.

Re: web pages not refreshing

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Don


I reported this problem with refreshing etc to Quentin along with a long. I had had a couple of reports about nvda not refreshing in google chrome, the new edge etc it seems to be the chromium based browsers. some said they had to alt/tab away then come back and the page would refresh.

A log was also sent along to him when it was happening on a banking website.


Some said using the space bar and nvda key would refresh the page. The nvda key + F5 key will do the same.

Not sure if he did a ticket he usually lets you know when he does.


Gene nz

On 21/02/2020 9:27 am, Don H wrote:
Running NVDA 2019.3.1 on a win 10 laptop using either Google Chrome or Microsoft Edge as my browser.
Running into more and more issues with web pages not being refreshed so that NVDA reads the new page after hitting enter on a link or other control.  Have to use the alt tab keys to get NVDA back on the new refreshed page.
Is this issue being addressed by the NVDA development team?
Thanks


loving the new NVDA update

Jimmy Vonderlinden
 

 Just updated my NVDA to the latest version and I have to say i'm very impressed with it, especially with microsoft edge and the twitter website. Biggest change I have noticed is that quote tweet is no longer spelled out. It's a nice change. Hope all enjoy your day. 
Just wanted to point that out for those who havent noticed

web pages not refreshing

Don H
 

Running NVDA 2019.3.1 on a win 10 laptop using either Google Chrome or Microsoft Edge as my browser.
Running into more and more issues with web pages not being refreshed so that NVDA reads the new page after hitting enter on a link or other control. Have to use the alt tab keys to get NVDA back on the new refreshed page.
Is this issue being addressed by the NVDA development team?
Thanks

Re: NVDA and Vocalizer voices

Nimer Jaber
 

Hello,

In the event that anyone on this list reading this message is unaware, the repository eluded to in the below message is known to contain add-ons which are illegitimate. Vocalizer must be purchased, as must Eloquence and Acapela voices. Therefore, please do not post any additional messages in relation to getting add-ons from any other source that is not the NVDA add-ons repository or from the companies who sell the paid synthesizer add-ons. Please do not provide support to any user who wishes to discuss ways of obtaining paid synths for free. And please pass along any such messages to the NVDA owner address.

Thanks.

On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 9:30 PM Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo <chikodinaka.2girls@...> wrote:
jeff'd addons by jeffree's add ons

On 2/19/20, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
> Wich add-ons?
>
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> Rui Fontes
>
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> Às 22:20 de 19/02/2020, Chikodinaka mr. Oguledo escreveu:
>> I have add ons add ons that art not updated yet
>>
>> On 2/19/20, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
>>> Do you mean CodeFactory Vocalizer voices, correct?
>>>
>>>
>>> Our Vocalizer voices don't do that...
>>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Rui Fontes
>>>
>>> Tiflotecnia, Lda.
>>>
>>>
>>> Às 19:55 de 19/02/2020, Don H escreveu:
>>>> Even though I have say caps unchecked under the settings for the
>>>> Vocalizer voices under NVDA 2019.3.1 it is still saying Cap when I
>>>> type a capital leter.  Anyone else seeing this issue and is there a
>>>> way to stop it from saying Cap?
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
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Re: NVDA new version 2019.3.1 doesn't work with vocalizer_expressive_driver 3.0.14 or 3.1.0 (partially work)

Don H
 

Did you close and restart NVDA after installing vocalizer and some voices?

On 2/20/2020 11:47 AM, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:
If you have any other vocalizer add-ons installed , remove them and see if that fixes the issue
*From: *Yopie <mailto:it@...>
*Sent: *20 February 2020 15:14
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] NVDA new version 2019.3.1 doesn't work with vocalizer_expressive_driver 3.0.14 or 3.1.0 (partially work)
Hello,
I am new in this forum and had a trouble with the latest NVDA 2019.3.1.
I want to activate vocalizer_expressive_driver 3.0.14 it said doesn't compatible.
Via this forum i found vocalizer_expressive_driver 3.1.0 it can be installed and i can activate my license but the menu of vocalizer doesn't appear even thought the license has been activated.
Please could someone help me how to fix it?
Thank you.
Best regards,
Yopie Janitra