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Re: Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I am getting the same error.

 

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From: Lino Morales
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 1:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

Its annoying as hell.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 3:50:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

That is correct – it’s not a notification. It is a box that comes up over and over though.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George McCoy
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 1:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

For me, this is not a notification.  It looks exactly like the screen that comes up when I click the dropbox button in the system tray/user notifications area of windows 10.

 

George

On 3/11/2019 11:11 AM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:

Good Morning:  I read this information a little late.  However, I check notifications, which are in settings and the notification for Drop Box is uncheck.

Dave

 

On 2/25/2019 5:10 AM, Gene wrote:

Has anyone looked through options in Dropbox to see if anything is available about not showing notifications or messages?  These are, presumably, shown in the system tray.  I almost never use DropBox, though I have it, and I usually don't have it running.  I don't know if I have the latest version.  But the first thing I would do is look through the options to see if anything is available.  I may check later today but it might be better if someone checks who uses it regularly, and knows they have the problem version.  Presumably, I either do or it would update if I leave it on.

 

Gene

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Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:18 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

The whole thrust of it for us is that you can hear when new updates come in.
To try to schedule everything at the studio will cause our non tech folk a
problem
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Is there any reason to have it running constantly?  You can exit it and only
run it when you want to use it.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: James Scholes
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 9:32 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Hi all,

I'm running Dropbox v68.3.92.  Approximately every half an hour or so,
NVDA's focus is being moved to a Dropbox window which only seems to
contain a single, blank edit field.  The window doesn't seem to stay on
the screen, but focus isn't returned to where it was previously after it
disappears.  In fact, NVDA reports it as taking up a rectangle of 0
pixels, so I don't know if anything shows up visually on the screen at all.

As you can imagine, having to dismiss these boxes several times per day
is irritating.  Does anybody have a work-around?

Regards,

James Scholes
https://twitter.com/JamesScholes






 

Re: Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

Lino Morales
 

Its annoying as hell.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@...>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 3:50:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups
 

That is correct – it’s not a notification. It is a box that comes up over and over though.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George McCoy
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 1:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

For me, this is not a notification.  It looks exactly like the screen that comes up when I click the dropbox button in the system tray/user notifications area of windows 10.

 

George

On 3/11/2019 11:11 AM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:

Good Morning:  I read this information a little late.  However, I check notifications, which are in settings and the notification for Drop Box is uncheck.

Dave

 

On 2/25/2019 5:10 AM, Gene wrote:

Has anyone looked through options in Dropbox to see if anything is available about not showing notifications or messages?  These are, presumably, shown in the system tray.  I almost never use DropBox, though I have it, and I usually don't have it running.  I don't know if I have the latest version.  But the first thing I would do is look through the options to see if anything is available.  I may check later today but it might be better if someone checks who uses it regularly, and knows they have the problem version.  Presumably, I either do or it would update if I leave it on.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:18 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

The whole thrust of it for us is that you can hear when new updates come in.
To try to schedule everything at the studio will cause our non tech folk a
problem
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Is there any reason to have it running constantly?  You can exit it and only
run it when you want to use it.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: James Scholes
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 9:32 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Hi all,

I'm running Dropbox v68.3.92.  Approximately every half an hour or so,
NVDA's focus is being moved to a Dropbox window which only seems to
contain a single, blank edit field.  The window doesn't seem to stay on
the screen, but focus isn't returned to where it was previously after it
disappears.  In fact, NVDA reports it as taking up a rectangle of 0
pixels, so I don't know if anything shows up visually on the screen at all.

As you can imagine, having to dismiss these boxes several times per day
is irritating.  Does anybody have a work-around?

Regards,

James Scholes
https://twitter.com/JamesScholes







Re: Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

Sam Bushman
 

That is correct – it’s not a notification. It is a box that comes up over and over though.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George McCoy
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 1:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

For me, this is not a notification.  It looks exactly like the screen that comes up when I click the dropbox button in the system tray/user notifications area of windows 10.

 

George

On 3/11/2019 11:11 AM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:

Good Morning:  I read this information a little late.  However, I check notifications, which are in settings and the notification for Drop Box is uncheck.

Dave

 

On 2/25/2019 5:10 AM, Gene wrote:

Has anyone looked through options in Dropbox to see if anything is available about not showing notifications or messages?  These are, presumably, shown in the system tray.  I almost never use DropBox, though I have it, and I usually don't have it running.  I don't know if I have the latest version.  But the first thing I would do is look through the options to see if anything is available.  I may check later today but it might be better if someone checks who uses it regularly, and knows they have the problem version.  Presumably, I either do or it would update if I leave it on.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:18 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

The whole thrust of it for us is that you can hear when new updates come in.
To try to schedule everything at the studio will cause our non tech folk a
problem
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Is there any reason to have it running constantly?  You can exit it and only
run it when you want to use it.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: James Scholes
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 9:32 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Hi all,

I'm running Dropbox v68.3.92.  Approximately every half an hour or so,
NVDA's focus is being moved to a Dropbox window which only seems to
contain a single, blank edit field.  The window doesn't seem to stay on
the screen, but focus isn't returned to where it was previously after it
disappears.  In fact, NVDA reports it as taking up a rectangle of 0
pixels, so I don't know if anything shows up visually on the screen at all.

As you can imagine, having to dismiss these boxes several times per day
is irritating.  Does anybody have a work-around?

Regards,

James Scholes
https://twitter.com/JamesScholes







Re: Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

George McCoy <slr1bpz@...>
 

If you uncheck notifications, you will get no notifications from dropbox at all.


You will not know when changes take place in your shared folders, for example.


George

On 3/11/2019 12:23 PM, Lino Morales wrote:

Yeah I like James Shols and others get these weir Dropbox notifications as well. So if I were to uncheck notifications well I get any let me know ofany new files etc. that are being uploaded? Thanks.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Dave Grossoehme <dave@...>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 12:11:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups
 

Good Morning:  I read this information a little late.  However, I check notifications, which are in settings and the notification for Drop Box is uncheck.

Dave


On 2/25/2019 5:10 AM, Gene wrote:
Has anyone looked through options in Dropbox to see if anything is available about not showing notifications or messages?  These are, presumably, shown in the system tray.  I almost never use DropBox, though I have it, and I usually don't have it running.  I don't know if I have the latest version.  But the first thing I would do is look through the options to see if anything is available.  I may check later today but it might be better if someone checks who uses it regularly, and knows they have the problem version.  Presumably, I either do or it would update if I leave it on.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

The whole thrust of it for us is that you can hear when new updates come in.
To try to schedule everything at the studio will cause our non tech folk a
problem
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Is there any reason to have it running constantly?  You can exit it and only
run it when you want to use it.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: James Scholes
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 9:32 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Hi all,

I'm running Dropbox v68.3.92.  Approximately every half an hour or so,
NVDA's focus is being moved to a Dropbox window which only seems to
contain a single, blank edit field.  The window doesn't seem to stay on
the screen, but focus isn't returned to where it was previously after it
disappears.  In fact, NVDA reports it as taking up a rectangle of 0
pixels, so I don't know if anything shows up visually on the screen at all.

As you can imagine, having to dismiss these boxes several times per day
is irritating.  Does anybody have a work-around?

Regards,

James Scholes
https://twitter.com/JamesScholes








Re: Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

George McCoy <slr1bpz@...>
 

For me, this is not a notification.  It looks exactly like the screen that comes up when I click the dropbox button in the system tray/user notifications area of windows 10.


George

On 3/11/2019 11:11 AM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:

Good Morning:  I read this information a little late.  However, I check notifications, which are in settings and the notification for Drop Box is uncheck.

Dave


On 2/25/2019 5:10 AM, Gene wrote:
Has anyone looked through options in Dropbox to see if anything is available about not showing notifications or messages?  These are, presumably, shown in the system tray.  I almost never use DropBox, though I have it, and I usually don't have it running.  I don't know if I have the latest version.  But the first thing I would do is look through the options to see if anything is available.  I may check later today but it might be better if someone checks who uses it regularly, and knows they have the problem version.  Presumably, I either do or it would update if I leave it on.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

The whole thrust of it for us is that you can hear when new updates come in.
To try to schedule everything at the studio will cause our non tech folk a
problem
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Is there any reason to have it running constantly?  You can exit it and only
run it when you want to use it.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: James Scholes
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 9:32 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Hi all,

I'm running Dropbox v68.3.92.  Approximately every half an hour or so,
NVDA's focus is being moved to a Dropbox window which only seems to
contain a single, blank edit field.  The window doesn't seem to stay on
the screen, but focus isn't returned to where it was previously after it
disappears.  In fact, NVDA reports it as taking up a rectangle of 0
pixels, so I don't know if anything shows up visually on the screen at all.

As you can imagine, having to dismiss these boxes several times per day
is irritating.  Does anybody have a work-around?

Regards,

James Scholes
https://twitter.com/JamesScholes








Re: Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


From what i can see you just hear it spoken then the window disappears. I would have to get some one sighted to confirm. This is with it in the notification area.


At present so i do not hear it spoken when the computer boots up etc in the search box of windows i typed startup. It then gave me options of programs strting up in that area. I tabbed until i got to drop box and turned it off or unpressed it.


I do not hear it now and i can still go to the short cut to hear it.

I only drop them in to the drop box now and again so do not need to hear when it gets updated others might be different.


Gene nz


On 12/03/2019 5:11 AM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:

Good Morning:  I read this information a little late.  However, I check notifications, which are in settings and the notification for Drop Box is uncheck.

Dave


On 2/25/2019 5:10 AM, Gene wrote:
Has anyone looked through options in Dropbox to see if anything is available about not showing notifications or messages?  These are, presumably, shown in the system tray.  I almost never use DropBox, though I have it, and I usually don't have it running.  I don't know if I have the latest version.  But the first thing I would do is look through the options to see if anything is available.  I may check later today but it might be better if someone checks who uses it regularly, and knows they have the problem version.  Presumably, I either do or it would update if I leave it on.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

The whole thrust of it for us is that you can hear when new updates come in.
To try to schedule everything at the studio will cause our non tech folk a
problem
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Is there any reason to have it running constantly?  You can exit it and only
run it when you want to use it.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: James Scholes
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 9:32 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Hi all,

I'm running Dropbox v68.3.92.  Approximately every half an hour or so,
NVDA's focus is being moved to a Dropbox window which only seems to
contain a single, blank edit field.  The window doesn't seem to stay on
the screen, but focus isn't returned to where it was previously after it
disappears.  In fact, NVDA reports it as taking up a rectangle of 0
pixels, so I don't know if anything shows up visually on the screen at all.

As you can imagine, having to dismiss these boxes several times per day
is irritating.  Does anybody have a work-around?

Regards,

James Scholes
https://twitter.com/JamesScholes








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Re: using win 7 after january 2020

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Brian the person has hi jacked this thread with that survey post. Might I suggest that although I do understand where he is coming from, that he puts his post on a blog somewhere with a link in his footer instead? In my experience it will get clicked on by many more than doing it this way. OK I'll go away.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] using win 7 after january 2020


On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 08:09 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:


As Joseph seems to have to keep on updating the essentials add on the
changes have to be significant.
Joseph can (and will) certainly jump in on this himself, but what I've observed suggests that these updates were far less about Windows 10, per se, than staging for future NVDA development. The last update was at the end of last September and is noted for NVDA 2018.3 to 2019.1.

Add-On Updater seems to be in constant spin as other add-ons "jump on the bandwagon" that allow it to work with it, and that's separate from Windows 10, per se, too.

I'm sure I'll be corrected, and accept it, if I'm wrong.

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Re: using win 7 after january 2020

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Yes it did, but its no longer working since the old way of updating was taken off line.
Anyway, I do not want to get folk confused as we were talking about windows 7 and I have no idea if point of sale or atm machines use windows 7 or not.
I'm not one to try to peddle false hope.

Brian

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Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] using win 7 after january 2020


Actually I think that registry hack gave you updates for Windows Embedded POS Ready, a version of XP that is primarily used in ATMs and the like, which is I think still being supported but will itself lose support this year if it hasn't already, not the updates governments are paying for.

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Yes Our nhs and the folk who used into in ATMs paid for updates, and there was a registry hack to pretend to be one of the latter at the time and freeload off the back of that.
I doubt they will be falling into that trap this time. As I say, I have no beef with windows 10, I do have the beef about the way you are forced to update it completely every six months with variable results on your installed software and accessibility with nvda. As Joseph seems to have to keep on updating the essentials add on the changes have to be significant.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "ADRIAN POCOCK" <ampbeast@...>
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Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] using win 7 after january 2020


Hi all

This might interest you, support after 2020 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjBsuq77vngAhWJVRUIHdQZDX8QFjABegQIBhAF&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.digitaltrends.com%2Fcomputing%2Fmicrosoft-charges-windows-7-support%2F&usg=AOvVaw3bFaguXM-wB1WZtzZMQxhW

Regards Adrian.

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I don't know, but with the xp experience in the main MSSE still works on Intel machines there, and I suspect they will continue for a while.
The real end of XP was governed by third party software dropping support for it, but it still carries on working with the old stuff, and I've never had any problems with viruses, just very slow web sites in the main and often the inability of older browsers to access some sites. I suspect much the same will apply to Windows 7. Whether Microsoft will stop the old hack to get additional updates is debatable, but be wary of such things.
I do not know the NVDA policy on this. But I imagine there will be a heck of a lot of windows 7 users just like there was xp users for a couple of years so unless there is a compelling reason not to support it, I think it will work for a while yet, and in any case if you keep with the same nvda version then it will work as it always did.

To be honest the main reason not to use 10 is the new OS every 6 months issue. WE get used to things being as we learn them and often the updates change stuff all the time and can be a bit of an effort for those who use third party software.
Otherwise I'd be on Windows 10.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Monte Single" <mrsingle@...><mailto:mrsingle@...>
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Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 8:47 AM
Subject: [nvda] using win 7 after january 2020


Microsoft will stop issuing updates for win 7 next January.

I have read comments that win 7 can be used safely after this time if some
conditions are followed.I understand these to be;

---a current browser such as firefox or chrome,

---an accessible antivirus and malware program.

What are antivirus and malware programs that will work with nvda in win 7?

Are there other items that I should consider if I choose to use win 7 after
January 2020?

Thanks,

Monte















Re: using win 7 after january 2020

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I think if you are a 7 user you will have seen it as on one update a while back the machines temp home page was changed to the warning about this without anybody asking. I guess they are entitled to do this, but it is slightly annoying when you boot in a browser and find that. Shades of the old practice then they ranmsn.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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Subject: Re: [nvda] using win 7 after january 2020


It baffles me why nobody has shared the official blog post, but here it is, from Microsoft.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4057281/windows-7-support-will-end-on-january-14-2020

Re: using win 7 after january 2020

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Yes and for some daft reason Microsoft keep suggesting repurposing alt tab, which would be a biiiiiig mistake for accessibility unless one could turn the new option off.
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Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] using win 7 after january 2020


Well that was like that for businesses on xp.

And there will probably be a crack for that to.

Saying that, as long as they keep their update history updated even if
their auto update servers are not updated, we can probably manually
download updates.



On 11/03/2019 11:21 PM, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:

Hi all

This might interest you, support after 2020
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjBsuq77vngAhWJVRUIHdQZDX8QFjABegQIBhAF&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.digitaltrends.com%2Fcomputing%2Fmicrosoft-charges-windows-7-support%2F&usg=AOvVaw3bFaguXM-wB1WZtzZMQxhW

Regards Adrian.

On 11/03/2019 09:39, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote:
I don't know, but with the xp experience in the main MSSE still works
on Intel machines there, and I suspect they will continue for a while.
The real end of XP was governed by third party software dropping
support for it, but it still carries on working with the old stuff,
and I've never had any problems with viruses, just very slow web
sites in the main and often the inability of older browsers to access
some sites. I suspect much the same will apply to Windows 7. Whether
Microsoft will stop the old hack to get additional updates is
debatable, but be wary of such things.
I do not know the NVDA policy on this. But I imagine there will be a
heck of a lot of windows 7 users just like there was xp users for a
couple of years so unless there is a compelling reason not to support
it, I think it will work for a while yet, and in any case if you keep
with the same nvda version then it will work as it always did.

To be honest the main reason not to use 10 is the new OS every 6
months issue. WE get used to things being as we learn them and often
the updates change stuff all the time and can be a bit of an effort
for those who use third party software.
Otherwise I'd be on Windows 10.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Monte Single" <mrsingle@...>
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Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 8:47 AM
Subject: [nvda] using win 7 after january 2020


Microsoft will stop issuing updates for win 7 next January.

I have read comments that win 7 can be used safely after this time
if some
conditions are followed.I understand these to be;

---a current browser such as firefox or chrome,

---an accessible antivirus and malware program.

What are antivirus and malware programs that will work with nvda in
win 7?

Are there other items that I should consider if I choose to use win
7 after
January 2020?

Thanks,

Monte









Re: Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

Sarah k Alawami
 

I just let the team know.they responded right away to me over twitter with some steps. I have followed said steps and they are now trying to solve the issue.

Take care

On 11 Mar 2019, at 10:23, Lino Morales wrote:

Yeah I like James Shols and others get these weir Dropbox notifications as well. So if I were to uncheck notifications well I get any let me know ofany new files etc. that are being uploaded? Thanks.

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

                                                                                                               

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Dave Grossoehme <dave@...>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 12:11:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups
 

Good Morning:  I read this information a little late.  However, I check notifications, which are in settings and the notification for Drop Box is uncheck.

Dave


On 2/25/2019 5:10 AM, Gene wrote:
Has anyone looked through options in Dropbox to see if anything is available about not showing notifications or messages?  These are, presumably, shown in the system tray.  I almost never use DropBox, though I have it, and I usually don't have it running.  I don't know if I have the latest version.  But the first thing I would do is look through the options to see if anything is available.  I may check later today but it might be better if someone checks who uses it regularly, and knows they have the problem version.  Presumably, I either do or it would update if I leave it on.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

The whole thrust of it for us is that you can hear when new updates come in.
To try to schedule everything at the studio will cause our non tech folk a
problem
 Brian

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From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
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Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Is there any reason to have it running constantly?  You can exit it and only
run it when you want to use it.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: James Scholes
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 9:32 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Hi all,

I'm running Dropbox v68.3.92.  Approximately every half an hour or so,
NVDA's focus is being moved to a Dropbox window which only seems to
contain a single, blank edit field.  The window doesn't seem to stay on
the screen, but focus isn't returned to where it was previously after it
disappears.  In fact, NVDA reports it as taking up a rectangle of 0
pixels, so I don't know if anything shows up visually on the screen at all.

As you can imagine, having to dismiss these boxes several times per day
is irritating.  Does anybody have a work-around?

Regards,

James Scholes
https://twitter.com/JamesScholes








Re: Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

Sarah k Alawami
 

You just hiacked the thread. Next time please start a new one.

Take care

On 11 Mar 2019, at 9:53, Vytautas Ziedelis wrote:

Sorry if this comment seems a bit off topic, I understand that but the reason for this is very important. Please read below and you understand why
 
Hello  dear group members, I am looking for people who finished or currently attending higher education.  I am doing a research for my 4th year project that involves analysis of experiences in higher education for blind and visually impaired individuals.
It is a questionnaire type of research, I totally get it if you think that not today, or someone else will do it, I'm really asking you to do it, because this research is very important,
I know answering survey questions is in the best time spent and it is annoying however please, please provide your feedback.
I struggled in higher education myself for 4 years, but I am finally in the 4th year last semester.    of my IT course. From my own experience I understand that many blind and visually impaired individuals have a hard time while studying in higher education due to the various reasons related to visual requirements of the course or support and understanding from the lecturers.
That is exactly the reason for this project, and therefore every answer is very important not for my project only, but also for all of us.
 
Some of you may answered this questionnaire before because it was posted before , however it is a new survey because I screwed that previous survey,  I had to fix the mistakes in the old one. And the outcome is that I had to create a new survey because platform didn't allow to modified the questions.
If you answered this survey previously I really appreciate that please do it again because I am lacking responses for the new one I had 44 in the previous one and a new one has only 11 responses thus far.
thank you very much for your help I really appreciate that, it is a tough job getting responses to the surveys, because I am aware that people like to skip them and understand why because it seems uninteresting,  but this 1 I think is important for blind and visually impaired community I designed that myself and that comes from my own experiences.
I am Leaving the link below so you can participate in find more about the questionnaire
 
http://bit.ly/2tZaHse

Re: Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

Lino Morales
 

Yeah I like James Shols and others get these weir Dropbox notifications as well. So if I were to uncheck notifications well I get any let me know ofany new files etc. that are being uploaded? Thanks.

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

                                                                                                               

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Dave Grossoehme <dave@...>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 12:11:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups
 

Good Morning:  I read this information a little late.  However, I check notifications, which are in settings and the notification for Drop Box is uncheck.

Dave


On 2/25/2019 5:10 AM, Gene wrote:
Has anyone looked through options in Dropbox to see if anything is available about not showing notifications or messages?  These are, presumably, shown in the system tray.  I almost never use DropBox, though I have it, and I usually don't have it running.  I don't know if I have the latest version.  But the first thing I would do is look through the options to see if anything is available.  I may check later today but it might be better if someone checks who uses it regularly, and knows they have the problem version.  Presumably, I either do or it would update if I leave it on.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

The whole thrust of it for us is that you can hear when new updates come in.
To try to schedule everything at the studio will cause our non tech folk a
problem
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Is there any reason to have it running constantly?  You can exit it and only
run it when you want to use it.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: James Scholes
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 9:32 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Hi all,

I'm running Dropbox v68.3.92.  Approximately every half an hour or so,
NVDA's focus is being moved to a Dropbox window which only seems to
contain a single, blank edit field.  The window doesn't seem to stay on
the screen, but focus isn't returned to where it was previously after it
disappears.  In fact, NVDA reports it as taking up a rectangle of 0
pixels, so I don't know if anything shows up visually on the screen at all.

As you can imagine, having to dismiss these boxes several times per day
is irritating.  Does anybody have a work-around?

Regards,

James Scholes
https://twitter.com/JamesScholes








About Topic Hijacking . . . #adminnotice

 
Edited

To the membership:

           . . . the only thing I can say is, please don't do this.   If you have a topic you wish to discuss that has nothing whatsoever to do with a topic that's ongoing then create a new one, and in the appropriate venue, be it the main group or the chat subgroup.

           A recent quadruple hijacking has been observed and the offending member notified that this is not something that's acceptable to do, ever.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 

Re: using win 7 after january 2020

Mohamed
 

Apologies, I misread the post, I thought the registry hack to get POS ready updates wasn't stated in the original message for some reason, but yes, those updates have or will be dropped this year.

On 3/11/2019 12:56 PM, Mohamed Al-Hajamy wrote:
Actually I think that registry hack gave you updates for Windows Embedded POS Ready, a version of XP that is primarily used in ATMs and the like, which is I think still being supported but will itself lose support this year if it hasn't already, not the updates governments are paying for.

On 3/11/2019 8:09 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Yes Our nhs and the folk who used into in ATMs paid for updates, and there was a registry hack to pretend to be one of the latter at the time and freeload off the back of that.
I doubt they will be falling into that trap this time. As I say, I have no beef with windows 10, I do have the beef about the way you are forced to update it completely every six months with variable results on your installed software and accessibility with nvda. As Joseph seems to have to keep on updating the essentials add on the changes have to be significant.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "ADRIAN POCOCK" <ampbeast@...>
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Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] using win 7 after january 2020


Hi all

This might interest you, support after 2020 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjBsuq77vngAhWJVRUIHdQZDX8QFjABegQIBhAF&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.digitaltrends.com%2Fcomputing%2Fmicrosoft-charges-windows-7-support%2F&usg=AOvVaw3bFaguXM-wB1WZtzZMQxhW

Regards Adrian.

On 11/03/2019 09:39, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote:
I don't know, but with the xp experience in the main MSSE still works on Intel machines there, and I suspect they will continue for a while.
The real end of XP was governed by third party software dropping support for it, but it still carries on working with the old stuff, and I've never had any problems with viruses, just very slow web sites in the main and often the inability of older browsers to access some sites. I suspect much the same will apply to Windows 7. Whether Microsoft will stop the old hack to get additional updates is debatable, but be wary of such things.
I do not know the NVDA policy on this. But I imagine there will be a heck of a lot of windows 7 users just like there was xp users for a couple of years so unless there is a compelling reason not to support it, I think it will work for a while yet, and in any case if you keep with the same nvda version then it will work as it always did.

To be honest the main reason not to use 10 is the new OS every 6 months issue. WE get used to things being as we learn them and often the updates change stuff all the time and can be a bit of an effort for  those who use third party software.
Otherwise I'd be on Windows 10.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io><mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 8:47 AM
Subject: [nvda] using win 7 after january 2020


Microsoft will stop issuing updates for win 7 next January.

I have read comments that win 7 can be used safely after this time if some
conditions are followed.I understand these to be;

---a current browser such as firefox or chrome,

---an accessible antivirus and malware program.

What are antivirus and malware programs that will work with nvda in win 7?

Are there other items that I should consider if I choose to use win 7 after
January 2020?

Thanks,

Monte















Re: Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

Vytautas Ziedelis
 

Sorry if this comment seems a bit off topic, I understand that but the reason for this is very important. Please read below and you understand why
 
Hello  dear group members, I am looking for people who finished or currently attending higher education.  I am doing a research for my 4th year project that involves analysis of experiences in higher education for blind and visually impaired individuals.
It is a questionnaire type of research, I totally get it if you think that not today, or someone else will do it, I'm really asking you to do it, because this research is very important,
I know answering survey questions is in the best time spent and it is annoying however please, please provide your feedback.
I struggled in higher education myself for 4 years, but I am finally in the 4th year last semester.    of my IT course. From my own experience I understand that many blind and visually impaired individuals have a hard time while studying in higher education due to the various reasons related to visual requirements of the course or support and understanding from the lecturers.
That is exactly the reason for this project, and therefore every answer is very important not for my project only, but also for all of us.
 
Some of you may answered this questionnaire before because it was posted before , however it is a new survey because I screwed that previous survey,  I had to fix the mistakes in the old one. And the outcome is that I had to create a new survey because platform didn't allow to modified the questions.
If you answered this survey previously I really appreciate that please do it again because I am lacking responses for the new one I had 44 in the previous one and a new one has only 11 responses thus far.
thank you very much for your help I really appreciate that, it is a tough job getting responses to the surveys, because I am aware that people like to skip them and understand why because it seems uninteresting,  but this 1 I think is important for blind and visually impaired community I designed that myself and that comes from my own experiences.
I am Leaving the link below so you can participate in find more about the questionnaire
 
http://bit.ly/2tZaHse

Re: using win 7 after january 2020

Mohamed
 

Actually I think that registry hack gave you updates for Windows Embedded POS Ready, a version of XP that is primarily used in ATMs and the like, which is I think still being supported but will itself lose support this year if it hasn't already, not the updates governments are paying for.

On 3/11/2019 8:09 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Yes Our nhs and the folk who used into in  ATMs paid for updates, and there was a registry hack to pretend to be one of the latter at the time and freeload off the back of that.
I doubt they will be falling into that trap this time. As I say, I have no beef with windows 10, I do have the beef about the way you are forced to update it completely every six months with variable results on your installed software and accessibility with nvda. As Joseph seems to have to keep on updating the essentials add on the changes have to be significant.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "ADRIAN POCOCK" <ampbeast@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] using win 7 after january 2020


Hi all

This might interest you, support after 2020 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjBsuq77vngAhWJVRUIHdQZDX8QFjABegQIBhAF&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.digitaltrends.com%2Fcomputing%2Fmicrosoft-charges-windows-7-support%2F&usg=AOvVaw3bFaguXM-wB1WZtzZMQxhW

Regards Adrian.

On 11/03/2019 09:39, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote:
I don't know, but with the xp experience in the main MSSE still works on Intel machines there, and I suspect they will continue for a while.
The real end of XP was governed by third party software dropping support for it, but it still carries on working with the old stuff, and I've never had any problems with viruses, just very slow web sites in the main and often the inability of older browsers to access some sites. I suspect much the same will apply to Windows 7. Whether Microsoft will stop the old hack to get additional updates is debatable, but be wary of such things.
I do not know the NVDA policy on this. But I imagine there will be a heck of a lot of windows 7 users just like there was xp users for a couple of years so unless there is a compelling reason not to support it, I think it will work for a while yet, and in any case if you keep with the same nvda version then it will work as it always did.

To be honest the main reason not to use 10 is the new OS every 6 months issue. WE get used to things being as we learn them and often the updates change stuff all the time and can be a bit of an effort for  those who use third party software.
Otherwise I'd be on Windows 10.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io><mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 8:47 AM
Subject: [nvda] using win 7 after january 2020


Microsoft will stop issuing updates for win 7 next January.

I have read comments that win 7 can be used safely after this time if some
conditions are followed.I understand these to be;

---a current browser such as firefox or chrome,

---an accessible antivirus and malware program.

What are antivirus and malware programs that will work with nvda in win 7?

Are there other items that I should consider if I choose to use win 7 after
January 2020?

Thanks,

Monte















locked Re: NVDA for Android and IOS

Vytautas Ziedelis
 

Sorry if this comment seems a bit off topic, I understand that but the reason for this is very important. Please read below and you understand why
 
Hello  dear group members, I am looking for people who finished or currently attending higher education.  I am doing a research for my 4th year project that involves analysis of experiences in higher education for blind and visually impaired individuals.
It is a questionnaire type of research, I totally get it if you think that not today, or someone else will do it, I'm really asking you to do it, because this research is very important,
I know answering survey questions is in the best time spent and it is annoying however please, please provide your feedback.
I struggled in higher education myself for 4 years, but I am finally in the 4th year last semester.    of my IT course. From my own experience I understand that many blind and visually impaired individuals have a hard time while studying in higher education due to the various reasons related to visual requirements of the course or support and understanding from the lecturers.
That is exactly the reason for this project, and therefore every answer is very important not for my project only, but also for all of us.
 
Some of you may answered this questionnaire before because it was posted before , however it is a new survey because I screwed that previous survey,  I had to fix the mistakes in the old one. And the outcome is that I had to create a new survey because platform didn't allow to modified the questions.
If you answered this survey previously I really appreciate that please do it again because I am lacking responses for the new one I had 44 in the previous one and a new one has only 11 responses thus far.
thank you very much for your help I really appreciate that, it is a tough job getting responses to the surveys, because I am aware that people like to skip them and understand why because it seems uninteresting,  but this 1 I think is important for blind and visually impaired community I designed that myself and that comes from my own experiences.
I am Leaving the link below so you can participate in find more about the questionnaire
 
http://bit.ly/2tZaHse

Re: using win 7 after january 2020

 

Hi,

Don't worry, I'm still in vacation. I just happen to come across a note taped to the lab door asking for clarifications about a few things.

Answers:

  • Windows 7 and NVDA: I cannot pronounce things for NV access people, but I expect Windows 7 support from NVDA will continue for a while past January 2020.
  • Windows 7 support past 2020: before anyone can jump in, I must announce that the article Adrian linked to is not entirely accurate as the poster implies. Although it does spell out the fact that some people will be eligible for paid support past January 2020, it is only meant for businesses, and cost will rise over time. As far as consumers are concerned, end of support is January 2020 and no extensions unless Microsoft says something within the next few months.
  • Add-on Updater: Brian V is right - I've been updating the add-on to add more add-ons to update check eligibility list, along with planning to drop support for old NVDA releases. I think it'd be best to discuss that add-on in a separate topic.
  • Windows 10 App Essentials: as much as keeping up with NVDA is important, it is also important to keep in touch with what's happening with Windows 10. Hence, recent releases of this add-on have been about both aspects: keeping up with NVDA development, and catching and dealing with bugs found in recent preview builds for Windows 10 Version 1903 (April 2019 Update). Suffice to say that some of the most important workarounds that were part of Windows 10 App Essentials add-on are now part of NVDA itself. And no, as I wrote a few days ago, I won't ask you all to update to NVDA 2019.1 in order to use this add-on for a while.

Cheers,

Joseph

Re: using win 7 after january 2020

Vytautas Ziedelis
 

Sorry if this comment seems a bit off topic, I understand that but the reason for this is very important. Please read below and you understand why
 
Hello  dear group members, I am looking for people who finished or currently attending higher education.  I am doing a research for my 4th year project that involves analysis of experiences in higher education for blind and visually impaired individuals.
It is a questionnaire type of research, I totally get it if you think that not today, or someone else will do it, I'm really asking you to do it, because this research is very important,
I know answering survey questions is in the best time spent and it is annoying however please, please provide your feedback.
I struggled in higher education myself for 4 years, but I am finally in the 4th year last semester.    of my IT course. From my own experience I understand that many blind and visually impaired individuals have a hard time while studying in higher education due to the various reasons related to visual requirements of the course or support and understanding from the lecturers.
That is exactly the reason for this project, and therefore every answer is very important not for my project only, but also for all of us.
 
Some of you may answered this questionnaire before because it was posted before , however it is a new survey because I screwed that previous survey,  I had to fix the mistakes in the old one. And the outcome is that I had to create a new survey because platform didn't allow to modified the questions.
If you answered this survey previously I really appreciate that please do it again because I am lacking responses for the new one I had 44 in the previous one and a new one has only 11 responses thus far.
thank you very much for your help I really appreciate that, it is a tough job getting responses to the surveys, because I am aware that people like to skip them and understand why because it seems uninteresting,  but this 1 I think is important for blind and visually impaired community I designed that myself and that comes from my own experiences.
I am Leaving the link below so you can participate in find more about the questionnaire
 
http://bit.ly/2tZaHse