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Re: Firefox and Extensions' section

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I'm not sure, but I think the version before that one worked correctly. Somebody needs to make a ticket on the Firefox bug tracker or it can be put on the nvda one if you want, and maybe Jamie can advise as he was on there the other day trying to understand a different issue in Firefox, I noticed.

This though is a Firefox issue as it was working before.

I only went there to check prompted by this thread, and as has been said, I knew it was working earlier.
Incidentally which version of Windows is everyone using, windows 7 or does it not matter?

Its a minor issue but annoying nonetheless if you want to add or look at what other add ons are installed.
Brian

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Hello. I am getting the same thing and I also noticed it was occurring in the previous version so whats going on here? I even cleared out the cookies and cash along with the history entries and am still getting this. I guess for now I have to use the tab and shift tab to get around this annoying bug. I am also getting the same thing on my other windows 10 machine. Maybe the NVDA add on for Thunderbird and fire fox needs to be updated? I just don't know. Maybe when the new version of nvda comes out those issues will go away. Just my thoughts.
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Re: Soulseek qt and NVDA?

 

can you please email me privately?

On 3/7/2019 12:14 AM, Tyler Wood wrote:
Hi,
I'm emailing you privately.

I'm honestly not sure of what advantages the upgrade brings. Maybe you can tell me as I literally just started using this program today. Maybe you can tell me if I'm missing out on something important.

It seems to be a pain to browse search results, especially and I have to use object nav, but it is doable.

The link I used was:

https://www.slsknet.org/SoulseekQt/Windows/SoulseekQt-2017-2-20.exe


Please let me know what you discover and if the older version works better, please let me know. If you could be so kind as to provide a link that would also help too especially if you notice huge improvements without much actual new features.

My biggest issue right now is trying to figure out how to collapse the list of folders/files when I browse a user's directories. And also how so many users seem to have folders labeled as a number (like 1) followed by info about their shares. Super neat.


For reference I'm wolfman1360 on there, if that helps.


On 2019-03-06 11:37 p.m., Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Tyler,


I have been running a very old Soulseek version 157 beta 13 for more than a decade and it still works quite well.  I didn't think anything past that version worked with screen readers--something about a programming language that is totally incompatible. Where can I get the 2017 version?  What would be the advantages of this upgrade?



On 3/6/2019 7:41 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
Hello,

I'm currently running soulseek 2017.2.20 and am able to use it relatively easily.


Upgrade to the latest build, 2018.11, and accessibility goes utterly and completely out the window. Tabbing and shift tabbing yields absolutely 0 results, similarly using the arrow keys.


I read somewhere that there were some DLL files that could perhaps make QT programs more accessible and intuitive to screen readers. Is this still around and if so, does anyone know how to go about this?


Thanks for any help.






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Re: Soulseek qt and NVDA?

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Tyler,


I have been running a very old Soulseek version 157 beta 13 for more than a decade and it still works quite well.  I didn't think anything past that version worked with screen readers--something about a programming language that is totally incompatible. Where can I get the 2017 version?  What would be the advantages of this upgrade?

On 3/6/2019 7:41 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:
Hello,

I'm currently running soulseek 2017.2.20 and am able to use it relatively easily.


Upgrade to the latest build, 2018.11, and accessibility goes utterly and completely out the window. Tabbing and shift tabbing yields absolutely 0 results, similarly using the arrow keys.


I read somewhere that there were some DLL files that could perhaps make QT programs more accessible and intuitive to screen readers. Is this still around and if so, does anyone know how to go about this?


Thanks for any help.




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Re: Off Topic Thunderbird reading messages view

Curtis Delzer
 

thank you again George, my huge problem is that I cannot get the combo box to change when I wish any filter to deposit messages in any folder under my inbox for the account I am working in.

I'll try that example, as you know I've not been able to install anything yet which my browser found to my download folder into Thunder Bird yet, but now you've shown me the way.

I'll go to the NVDA add-on page and get the t-bird add-on, thanks!

George, I recall your name from the "readit," days, remember that fine reader / file handler? :) I go a ways back, so as you can tell I've been doing computers for awhile. :)

Seems to me you had a bit to do with that software?

On 3/6/2019 8:09 PM, George McCoy wrote:

Hello again, Curtis.

I haven't followed your Thunder bird trials and tribulations closely, so the following is based on some assumptions.

1.  You are trying to install the quick folder navigation add-on.

2.  You are using the instructions in the tutorial on accessibility central.

3.  You have downloaded the .xpi file.

If my assumptions are incorrect, you can probably skip the rest of this email.

You will recall that I mentioned that a few things in the tutorial are out of date.  The section on installing the quick folder navigation add-on is one of those.  Try the following instead.

Click tools>add-ons.
Select extensions in the list.
Click the tools for all add-ons button. This is a little quirky.  Tab to the button and press spacebar.  Doing that doesn't click it, at least for me.  You then have to route the mouse to that button and click it with the left click key.  If you don't press spacebar first, you may get an object has no location message from NVDA.

Select install add-on from file from the menu.

Navigate to the the quick folders navigation add-on.  Press enter or click the open button to install the add-on.


Also, you should install the mozilla enhancements add-on for NvDA, if you haven't already done so.  It makes both Thunder bird and firefox easier to use.  The best thing about this add-on as far as Thunder bird is concerned is that it makes arranging message headers much easier.


Hth,

George


On 3/6/2019 2:12 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

the issue I have is that I can't get the button to import from add-on manager. the download happened in my browser, Chrome, and the xpi file is, I thought if I just associate the file to thunderbird.exe it would work. but, instead, thunderbird just created an outgoing message with the add-on as an attachment. :) There is suppose to be a button somewhere near the seach feature in the add-on, but when I go to "all add-ons that my browser comes up and I am back to the beginning of having them download to my download area and not directly into T-bird. Again, the issue is finding that import button in the add-on manager which is suppose to be right next to the "search" button according to the help I read.

On 3/5/2019 9:45 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Curt,

 

For the add-on to work, you have to close thunderbird and then restart it.

 

Rosie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 7:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Off Topic Thunderbird reading messages view

 

I've downloaded the add-on, how to get it into my thunderbird?  thanks guys for the off-topic messages.

 

On 3/4/2019 3:43 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,
The add-on you are talking about is called Quick Folder Navigation. It's actually quite good and I do use it on my Thunderbird :)

Em 04/03/2019 20:38, Brice Mijares escreveu:

Try opening the message, hit alt m, m again, then right arrow and then you can arrow up or down to the folder you want and hit enter and the message will go into that folder. There is a add on that escapes my memory. Something like single key navigation that will move you to the folders quicker.
On 3/4/2019 3:10 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

My thing is that I cannot get Thunderbird to change folders where I wish messages to go in that combobox of my folders. I've made folders for message groups E.G. nvda, windows ten, blindtech, etc. but how to get them to change? I press enter and get an error message so what is the secret?


On 3/4/2019 10:14 AM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

Em 04/03/2019 14:59, ADRIAN POCOCK escreveu:

Also is there a way of having more than one filter applied to the sorting order of emails in inbox.

To my knowledge, one can have as many filters as one needs. You just need to pay attention on the filters' order, because they will run according with what you have done first.


Lastly does anyone know of any add-on to move all messages from one subject as in the threads to create one combined email.

You don't need an add-on to do it, not really. On the "order by" (or something like that) menu, you'll find an option to group the messages on a certain subject in only one thread.

Sorry, I believe I couldn't help as much as I'd like, but I hope you find at least one thing that I just wrote useful for answering your questions.

Cheers,
Marcio









 

 

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locked Re: about latex and nvda

 

The sayonara post, prior to locking, for this topic on the main group.

Again I have taken the liberty of starting a topic in the chat subgroup for you all to continue with:  LaTeX Document Preparation/Typesetting System

Any member of the NVDA group can subscribe to by sending a message to chat+subscribe@nvda.groups.io and then post to using chat@nvda.groups.io.
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Re: Off Topic Thunderbird reading messages view

George McCoy <slr1bpz@...>
 

Hello again, Curtis.

I haven't followed your Thunder bird trials and tribulations closely, so the following is based on some assumptions.

1.  You are trying to install the quick folder navigation add-on.

2.  You are using the instructions in the tutorial on accessibility central.

3.  You have downloaded the .xpi file.

If my assumptions are incorrect, you can probably skip the rest of this email.

You will recall that I mentioned that a few things in the tutorial are out of date.  The section on installing the quick folder navigation add-on is one of those.  Try the following instead.

Click tools>add-ons.
Select extensions in the list.
Click the tools for all add-ons button. This is a little quirky.  Tab to the button and press spacebar.  Doing that doesn't click it, at least for me.  You then have to route the mouse to that button and click it with the left click key.  If you don't press spacebar first, you may get an object has no location message from NVDA.

Select install add-on from file from the menu.

Navigate to the the quick folders navigation add-on.  Press enter or click the open button to install the add-on.


Also, you should install the mozilla enhancements add-on for NvDA, if you haven't already done so.  It makes both Thunder bird and firefox easier to use.  The best thing about this add-on as far as Thunder bird is concerned is that it makes arranging message headers much easier.


Hth,

George


On 3/6/2019 2:12 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

the issue I have is that I can't get the button to import from add-on manager. the download happened in my browser, Chrome, and the xpi file is, I thought if I just associate the file to thunderbird.exe it would work. but, instead, thunderbird just created an outgoing message with the add-on as an attachment. :) There is suppose to be a button somewhere near the seach feature in the add-on, but when I go to "all add-ons that my browser comes up and I am back to the beginning of having them download to my download area and not directly into T-bird. Again, the issue is finding that import button in the add-on manager which is suppose to be right next to the "search" button according to the help I read.

On 3/5/2019 9:45 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, Curt,

 

For the add-on to work, you have to close thunderbird and then restart it.

 

Rosie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Curtis Delzer
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 7:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Off Topic Thunderbird reading messages view

 

I've downloaded the add-on, how to get it into my thunderbird?  thanks guys for the off-topic messages.

 

On 3/4/2019 3:43 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,
The add-on you are talking about is called Quick Folder Navigation. It's actually quite good and I do use it on my Thunderbird :)

Em 04/03/2019 20:38, Brice Mijares escreveu:

Try opening the message, hit alt m, m again, then right arrow and then you can arrow up or down to the folder you want and hit enter and the message will go into that folder. There is a add on that escapes my memory. Something like single key navigation that will move you to the folders quicker.
On 3/4/2019 3:10 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

My thing is that I cannot get Thunderbird to change folders where I wish messages to go in that combobox of my folders. I've made folders for message groups E.G. nvda, windows ten, blindtech, etc. but how to get them to change? I press enter and get an error message so what is the secret?


On 3/4/2019 10:14 AM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

Em 04/03/2019 14:59, ADRIAN POCOCK escreveu:

Also is there a way of having more than one filter applied to the sorting order of emails in inbox.

To my knowledge, one can have as many filters as one needs. You just need to pay attention on the filters' order, because they will run according with what you have done first.


Lastly does anyone know of any add-on to move all messages from one subject as in the threads to create one combined email.

You don't need an add-on to do it, not really. On the "order by" (or something like that) menu, you'll find an option to group the messages on a certain subject in only one thread.

Sorry, I believe I couldn't help as much as I'd like, but I hope you find at least one thing that I just wrote useful for answering your questions.

Cheers,
Marcio









 

 

Re: Firefox and Extensions' section

 

Marcio,

         At this point I'm allowing for "farewell tours" for topics already well underway.   I appreciate your thoughtful consideration.

         That having been said, this topic is about NVDA being used with Firefox, so it would certainly qualify for main group.  Were a conversation about Firefox and all its various settings be wanted, but not because there's any NVDA related content of significance about that, the chat group is the place to start it.

           The question I'd like people to ask themselves before choosing main versus chat is:  Does what I'm about to discuss involve using NVDA to accomplish a task with some program or NVDA settings to control NVDA itself?    If the answer is yes, then go for the main group, and if it's no then go for chat.

            You really can't discuss NVDA or any other screen reader without it being directly linked to accomplishing a task with other software.  Screen readers are tools that are "dead assets" unless you're using them with something else.   But you can go on for days about other software, with barely a mention of NVDA, and that's what belongs on the chat subgroup rather than the main group.

           There can be no 100% purity in either venue.  But the thrust of a topic is pretty clear even before it starts in most cases.  The LaTeX topic being a perfect example.  Since it's used with a text editor there will be very little NVDA related content when discussing LaTeX.
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Soulseek qt and NVDA?

Tyler Wood
 

Hello,

I'm currently running soulseek 2017.2.20 and am able to use it relatively easily.


Upgrade to the latest build, 2018.11, and accessibility goes utterly and completely out the window. Tabbing and shift tabbing yields absolutely 0 results, similarly using the arrow keys.


I read somewhere that there were some DLL files that could perhaps make QT programs more accessible and intuitive to screen readers. Is this still around and if so, does anyone know how to go about this?


Thanks for any help.

Re: Firefox and Extensions' section

 

I haven't tried the add-on yet, although I doubt it will help in any way since perhaps it's not updated according to the latest Firefox.
Of course they might not have time to catch up with the updates as soon as they're released, so it's understandable.
Anyway, as I've said, miss my old Firefox!

P.S.: Should I stop posting to this thread or since somehow it's about NVDA that's ok to keep it up?

Cheers,
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Em 06/03/2019 18:08, Sue J. Ward escreveu:

 Hello. I am getting the same thing and I also noticed it was occurring in the previous version so whats going on here? I even cleared out the cookies and cash along with the history entries and am still getting this. I guess for now I have to use the tab and shift tab to get around this annoying bug. I am also getting the same thing on my other windows 10 machine. Maybe the NVDA add on for Thunderbird and fire fox needs to be updated? I just don't know. Maybe when the new version of nvda comes out those issues will go away. Just my thoughts.
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locked Re: about latex and nvda

 

Sarah,

Of course you may!  LaTeX is platform independent.  I'm just trying to get what will likely be a long and productive conversation, but that's marginally related to NVDA, launched where it can be discussed to the hearts' content of those interested without annoying those who turn to the main NVDA group for guidance on using or configuring NVDA.
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locked Re: about latex and nvda

Sarah k Alawami
 

I use a mac primarily, may I ask my question in that thread? I've ben struggling with this language as I've ben trying to learn it by myself. This is wonderful.

On 6 Mar 2019, at 13:05, Brian Vogel wrote:

Hello All,

            The next few weeks are going to mark a period of transition, and a transition supported by both myself and Nimer Jaber, the list owner.

             This topic is just the sort of thing the Chat subgroup is meant for, and where extended discussion of LaTeX itself can shine, unencumbered.  Then there will also exist an online archive of what you all share with each other that you have easy access to later (and we all forget some detail we know was discussed at some point).

             I have taken the liberty of starting a topic there for you all to continue with:  LaTeX Document Preparation/Typesetting System

             I am begging all of you who want to get into LaTeX "hot and heavy" with each other to take it to the Chat subgroup, which any member of the NVDA group can subscribe to by sending a message to chat+subscribe@nvda.groups.io and then post to using chat@nvda.groups.io.

             I will leave this topic open for several hours, so that those who may not have yet subscribed to the Chat subgroup can do so, but will lock it later this evening.  After you have subscribed to the Chat subgroup, feel free to post to this message indicating such.  I can then post another "bump" message on the above noted topic so that an e-mail will land in your inbox to let you join in on the discussion.

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Re: Draft view in Microsoft word.

Quentin Christensen
 

This is one of those cases where Word tries to be a little bit too clever for its own good.  You can set the default view to Draft, however Word saves the view within individual documents, so unless you last saved the document in Draft view, it could open in another view.

The ribbon shortcut key for draft view is alt+w, then e.

There is a direct shortcut key, which is control+alt+n.  Most of you should recognise that keystroke as the one that you can use to start NVDA.  You can change that keystroke, or the other option is to create an entry on Word's Quick Access Toolbar to switch to draft view.  You can then press ALT+1 to access the first item on the Quick Access Toolbar, ALT+2 for the second and so on.

To edit the Quick Access Toolbar, open Word, then press ALT+F, then T to open the Options.  Press CONTROL+TAB until the focus moves to the "Quick Access Toolbar" category.  Press TAB once to "Choose commands from".  Either choose "All Commands" or "View Ribbon", then TAB to the list of commands and find "Draft" and press ALT+A to add that to the toolbar.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 12:26 AM Robert Kingett <kingettr@...> wrote:

I get these in daily digests, so, sorry for the late reply, but draft view strips out the toolbars and also unnecessary font styles to simplify writing. It's far speedier to write and edit documents in. Plus, the ribbon opens quicker too, for some reason. I have no clue how it looks visually, but it even increases the speed of the spell checker, for some reason. Maybe it's because I'm using an older HP laptop with a clogged up registry and god knows what else in here, but if I notice a huge increase in speed, after switching to draft view, it must be stripping visual junk out of the window. I haven't tried it on my 256 GB SSD ACER yet but I've noticed an extremely massive boost in speed and editing speed after switching to draft view. Anyway, can I tell MSW, Microsoft Word, to run Macros as soon as I open documents? The screen reader help for Macros only talks about running them manually, and my only experience with Macros is using an autocorrect backup Macro someone created for word 2003.



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NVDA and Editing Tools, What Works?

David Russell
 

Hi Group,
This is for any writers among the group.

In doing self-editing of fiction, I have found ProWritingAid is
probably the best going, but requires one to perhaps go to their site,
enter, and post your edit there. It's doable and works but a bit time
consuming to use.
To keep this brief, what do you use for self-editing?
Can you rely solely on NVDA to have the program work for you?
Thanks for the help.

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Re: Firefox and Extensions' section

 

Not knowing what add-ons someone has, or what vintage they may be, I would definitely encourage anyone using NVDA with add-ons to get the Add-On Updater add-on, which is getting more and more comprehensive about the add-ons it can keep updated.

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Re: Firefox and Extensions' section

 

It appears that the "most official" version of Firefox Portable, which tends to follow on the heels of the latest release very quickly, can be found here:

https://portableapps.com/apps/internet/firefox_portable

There are a couple of sources where Firefox gets repackaged in portable form, but I didn't notice one on the Mozilla.org site.
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Re: Firefox and Extensions' section

Sue J. Ward
 

Hello. I am getting the same thing and I also noticed it was occurring in the previous version so whats going on here? I even cleared out the cookies and cash along with the history entries and am still getting this. I guess for now I have to use the tab and shift tab to get around this annoying bug. I am also getting the same thing on my other windows 10 machine. Maybe the NVDA add on for Thunderbird and fire fox needs to be updated? I just don't know. Maybe when the new version of nvda comes out those issues will go away. Just my thoughts.
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locked Re: about latex and nvda

 

Hello All,

            The next few weeks are going to mark a period of transition, and a transition supported by both myself and Nimer Jaber, the list owner.

             This topic is just the sort of thing the Chat subgroup is meant for, and where extended discussion of LaTeX itself can shine, unencumbered.  Then there will also exist an online archive of what you all share with each other that you have easy access to later (and we all forget some detail we know was discussed at some point).

             I have taken the liberty of starting a topic there for you all to continue with:  LaTeX Document Preparation/Typesetting System

             I am begging all of you who want to get into LaTeX "hot and heavy" with each other to take it to the Chat subgroup, which any member of the NVDA group can subscribe to by sending a message to chat+subscribe@nvda.groups.io and then post to using chat@nvda.groups.io.

             I will leave this topic open for several hours, so that those who may not have yet subscribed to the Chat subgroup can do so, but will lock it later this evening.  After you have subscribed to the Chat subgroup, feel free to post to this message indicating such.  I can then post another "bump" message on the above noted topic so that an e-mail will land in your inbox to let you join in on the discussion.

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locked Re: about latex and nvda

Sharon Austin
 

James, I forgot to ask too, how to set language in LaTeX.   Any resources you can point me to would be greatly, greatly, appreciated.  

Thanks again!

Sharon

locked Re: about latex and nvda

Sharon Austin
 

Hi James this is fabulous.   I'm just now learning about LaTeX and NVDA, but found it is basically out-of-the-box accessible with NVDA.   I would be extremely appreciative of any additional information you could point me to -- even the most basic.   In particular, anything that has to do with the order of operations. I'll be following this thread with great interest.

Thank you, so much.  

Sharon

Re: Reading subtitles in Netflix with NVDA

JM Casey
 

Hey.

I go on the internet and find a file with an extension .srt that is a a text-based subtitle file. You can find them for a great many movies, but probably not newer netflix stuff. There are databases online that contain loads of them, and also if you download a movie in a compressed format like .avi or .mkv and it doesn't contain hard-coded subs, it will likely come with an .srt file.
Transfer the.srt file to your braille display device of choice and you're good to go. The files do contain time codes that don't help you much when reading via this method, so unless someone comes up with a way to actually make use of them (say, to get the display to advance automatically when there is dialogue spoken), you'll just have to skip past them, or maybe use a programme like notepad++ to strip them out of the file altogether.

Again, this method is far from perfect as it requires extra focus that even a sighted viewer/reader would not have to undertake, but it's the best method I've found for my personal use. I've only found myself frustrated a couple of times, mostly with some french films where everyone is always talking. Haha

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: March 6, 2019 2:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading subtitles in Netflix with NVDA

Great! How do you read subs on a braille display? Maybe I missed something in your previous message, which I lost... Sorry...


Thanks, Ciao,

Ollie




Il 05/03/2019 22:43, JM Casey ha scritto:
HI.
I read the subtitles on a braille display. It isn't automatic so it means I have to really concentrate on followign the dialogue with my ears as well as my fingers even if I can't understand the language. It works ok most of the time, except in some films with so much dialogue that it's hard to keep up.
Granted it's a bit of work and after my former wife and I split up I haven't been watching as many non-english movies. Well, I watch a lot of Spanish and Italian horror and exploitation movies and those often have english dubs.


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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: March 5, 2019 1:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading subtitles in Netflix with NVDA

Excuse me, but how can you watch a movie or whatever if it's in a language you don't understand?

Ok, you might say you don't watch movies in languages you don't understand, which makes sense.


I'm just like you. I don't like subtitles and I don't like
audiodescriptions. I feel they infringe on my imagination... lol


But I others aer not like me, so I think subtitles should be reacheable
and readable also for the visually impaired and blind...


Ciao,

Ollie




Il 04/03/2019 23:47, JM Casey ha scritto:
That hasn’t been my experience, though granted I don’t watch described
movies all that often and so the number of subtitled ones I tried were
very small. Some movies simply don’t have enough quiet parts for that
to be realistically feasible. Others’ experiences and opinions may of
course vary, but if I can’t listen to the actual actors speaking,
regardless of what language that happens to be in, I’m out of it.

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*hurrikennyandopo ...
*Sent:* March 4, 2019 5:44 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Reading subtitles in Netflix with NVDA

Hi

All the audio described content i have watched they do it in the quiet
parts and do it very well.

Gene nz

On 5/03/2019 9:35 AM, JM Casey wrote:

I don't really know anything about Netflix, and this might not be avilable for some of the new shows there, but it might well be for older ones and movies. I usually just find a file with an .srt extension on the internet, and download it to my braille display device. It's not the best arrangement as the subtitles don't move with the dialogue as they are supposed to, but it's not so bad once you get the hang of it; you just have to focus pretty hard. I'd much rather do this than listen to a synth or a human reading the subtitles, talking over the actual actors in the film!



-----Original Message-----

From:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard

Sent: March 4, 2019 2:51 PM

To:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading subtitles in Netflix with NVDA



Hello Gene,





Thanks.





I know how to get around Netflix in Android, although subtitles there aren't very usable.





A friend and I were trying to see them on computers, so I'll have a look

at the page you recommended.





I can find audiodescriptions without diffilulties. I'm currently

watching The Crown and Black Mirror, plus a couple of Italian series and

La Casa de Papel in Spanish, which I'd started watching last year, but

now I discovered audiodescriptions, and it's a great thing...





Ciao and thanks,



Ollie









Il 04/03/2019 20:41, hurrikennyandopo ... ha scritto:



Hi





I was lazy but this page will mostly cover what you want depending on

the device you use. It also has it for the computer if you use that.





The link to this page ishttps://help.netflix.com/en/node/372

<https://help.netflix.com/en/node/372> <https://help.netflix.com/en/node/372>



They also do audio description a lot of people do not know that. Also

net flix works with the google mini or smart speakers from them with a

chrome cast.





When setup you use your voice to control it like play, resume rewind etc.





Gene nz





On 5/03/2019 4:16 AM, Mallard wrote:

Hello all,





Is it possible to read subtitles in Netflix with NVDA?





I found a great tutorial in Accessibility Central, but can't find any

reference to subtitles.





Thanks, stay well,





Ollie









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Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to

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To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following

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contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around

the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

















--
Image NVDA certified expert

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the
APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of
their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest
to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
(Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is
installed on the APNK network please visit the following link
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to
use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City
Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to
the following links. Software available
https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884How to
start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers
https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/

To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following
link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page
contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around
the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.